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gary - 19 Nov 2006 04:08 GMT
have a female cat, about two years old, she has been fixed.

she has been peeing on either the couch or my recliner lately.

she even know that it is wrong, because she hides as soon as I go near where
she wet.

the darn cat is not mistreated, she is well taken care of.
I cant even think of anything she could be mad at when she does it.  she
just now did it when I was in the other room, no reason that I could tell.

I am not going to get rid of her, but I HAVE to stop her from doing this.
currently I actually lock her in the hallway when I am gone for the day to
remove temptation.

I have purchased spray to remove the urine smell and all that.

what else can I do to break her from doing this?
I have tried the old fashioned "stick her nose in it and go NO NO" but that
doesnt work.  I have tried putting her in her carrier for a short time as
punishment, but that didnt work.

at least the cat I had before this had a reason when she wet on something.
usually if she wanted to go outside and I wouldnt let her (she had gotten
old).

this one is a house kitty only, too many dogs wandering around loose to let
her out.

any advice would be appreciated.
gary
Victor Martinez - 19 Nov 2006 15:54 GMT
> I have tried the old fashioned "stick her nose in it and go NO NO" but that
> doesnt work.  I have tried putting her in her carrier for a short time as
> punishment, but that didnt work.

Those methods do not work with cats.

> any advice would be appreciated.

Take her to the vet right away. Inapropriate urination is often a
symptom of a health problem.

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Lesley - 19 Nov 2006 23:08 GMT
> I have tried the old fashioned "stick her nose in it and go NO NO" but that
> doesnt work.

Well there's your problem in a nutshell. Doing that just tells the cat
that you obviously approve of her doing it there since you're reminding
her that place smells of her! And cats don't really understand the NO
word!

It's an outdated bit of advice that doesn't work with cats

First of all give her more than one box- some cats are fussy enough to
pee in one and sh*t in the other. Make sure they are cleaned regularly
and the litter is deep enough (My Sarrasine was a holy terror for
pooping outside the box until one day when I accidentally tipped what I
thought was too much litter in her box- problem solved!)

Lesley

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ChristyLynn - 20 Nov 2006 00:59 GMT
> And cats don't really understand the NO word!

I don't agree with that.  If I say No No to my cats, and not yelling it,
they stop and leave, sometimes stopping and talking back to me before
leaving the room.
studio - 20 Nov 2006 01:51 GMT
> And cats don't really understand the NO
> word!

A few points here...

Your cat might not, but mine most certainly does, and what's more,
it doesn't matter what my tone of voice is now after so many years of
saying it.
I could say no in the friendlist of tones, and she'd stop dead in her
tracks.
It's really about the only word she does understand.

If kitty has to use the bathroom, no amount of no's can stop them.

In the beginning, no's must be backed up with actions to re-enforce the
idea
of what no means. After that, they'll know without the action.

Repeativeness, and timely action is what is required.

I would however agree with the idea that it could be a health problem,
or giving kitty more choices of litter-boxes, or simply cleaning her
own litter box out,
but without knowing the kitty and her surroundings, it's a complex
thing to speculate on.

If kitty's nose is put in her pee after kitty goes about doing
something else,
kitty will not understand why. Even 15-30 seconds could very well be
too long.

It only works if kitty's nose is immediately put in the pee right after
(or even before kitty finishes), while repeatedly saying "no, no, no"
in a stern clear enunciated voice, clap your hands and stomp your feet
loudly to chase kitty away afterwards.

This will not hurt kitty, but re-enforce the idea that peeing in
certain places is an uncomfortable experience afterwards.
Just like humans, going to the bathroom should be a relieving
experience, not a catalyst for more unpleasant feelings.
studio - 20 Nov 2006 01:56 GMT
Oh, I forgot to add;
kitty should be praised when kitty gets it right with a few seconds of
petting,
small talk, and then called to her food bowl as a reward.
Roberta Bagshaw - 21 Nov 2006 02:55 GMT
Hi Gary

Take your cat to the vet A.S.A.P. to get her checked out for a possible
urinary tract infection or other problem.  If she checks out all clear, then
ask the vet what could possibly be causing this behaviour.

Just as a suggestion... have you  or any recent visitors to your home been
sitting on your couch or recliner, and maybe have left traces of bodily
fluids (e.g. urine) there?  It sounds like your cat may be "marking her
territory". This is very normal feline behaviour.  It could be some kind of
"nervous" insecure behaviour......  what you have written in your post,
there seem to be a few control issues happening here!....

A calm environment, with a clean litter tray, with things to amuse and
distract her when you are gone for the day, some loving attention when you
are home.... these may all help (providing she does not have a health
problem).

I'm sure there is a solution to this problem..... just remember that giving
a pet loving care and attention sometimes has absolutely miraculous results!

She is still only a very young cat,  and obviously quite intelligent, as she
recognises that you do not approve of her wetting your couch or chair, but
unfortunately when animals are driven by instinctive behaviour like this
they find themselves in a very awkward situation, which you can only really
solve by finding out the cause.

I know it is easy to become angry or very irritated by these kind of pet
behaviours, but most of our pets are very dependent upon us, for everything
in their lives, and only really want to love us and please us.  So when they
find themselves unintentionally doing things which make us angry or
irritable it sometimes sets up a kind of vicious circle, as our displeasure
or irritation only makes the animal more anxious.... ergo more "anxiety"
behaviour.

Anyway... let us know what the results are with your visit to the vet... we
may all learn something from your post.  And after all that is what this
newsgroup is all about!

~Roberta~

> have a female cat, about two years old, she has been fixed.
>
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> any advice would be appreciated.
> gary
 
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