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backyard cat containment
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oldhickory - 18 Nov 2006 01:37 GMT I have to share with you all for future reference. We have found fencing that is PERFECT for allowing the kitties free run in the back yard--safely and securely. Okay, so some people may have cats who are more determined than ours to get out, insane jumper types, but we and our kitties are in heaven. Our new subdivision requires this fencing, I have no idea how much it costs if you go out and do it on your own but you might want to look into it.
Below are a couple of pictures: the fence we have is white vinyl. We did have to cover the back section with white lattice to fill the gaps, and put edging around the bottom (a combo of bricks and faux brick vinyl edging stuff) and had to screw and extra strip of vinyl to the bottom of the gates to cover that gap, too) but this keeps our cats safely contained in the backyard--digging in the garden, chasing butterflies and snoozing on the patio or on a pile of mulch around the tree. They can't get their claws in (and don't want to get them in the latice in the back--it's uncomfortable on their little paws) so the can't get over it and they are safe and secure. As long as there is not something close enough to the fence for them to jump on top of and leap from (the first week we left the plastic deck storage box too close and "houdini cat" Mini made good use of it) they are well-secured.
They have loved every minute of it and now go straight for the back door in the morning to be let out...and every evening abut dinner time, too. Light or dark--they love to go out to play and it does help wear them out, so they sleep better at night, too ;-)
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I dont know - 18 Nov 2006 18:31 GMT > I have to share with you all for future reference. We have found fencing > that is PERFECT for allowing the kitties free run in the back yard--safely > and securely. Okay, so some people may have cats who are more determined > than ours to get out, insane jumper types, but we and our kitties are in > heaven. Our new subdivision requires this fencing, Wow - there's 2 things that are VERY wrong.
1: Any cat that wanted to could leap that fence in a second.
2: You're happy that your home-owners association dictates how you must live.
I Do Know - 18 Nov 2006 20:55 GMT > Wow - there's 2 things that are VERY wrong. > > 1: Any cat that wanted to could leap that fence in a second. > > 2: You're happy that your home-owners association dictates how you must > live. HOA's are a double-edge sword; They have good & bad points. My community had no HOA. We had two drunks, out of 60 homes, who kept their property looking like a landfill. I now live in a HOA community, much better, my choice, and I like it. Moreover, if you don't like the HOA, you can run for office and change things. Virtually all the bitching about the HOA is from uninvolved people who continually violate even the most basic rules, like letting their grass grow a foot high and allowing their paint to start peeling. To each his own, I love this country!
Ted Davis - 19 Nov 2006 01:18 GMT >http://davidandmollie.com/vtours/discovery/075.jpg >http://davidandmollie.com/vtours/discovery/076.jpg If I had such a fence, I would expect to see several cats sitting on the posts most of the time. It wouldn't keep them in: my cats have to leap about that high just to get to the platform for the cat flap.
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oldhickory - 19 Nov 2006 14:49 GMT I guess, in spite of my clarification that if your cats are jumpers it won't work, this was an exercise in futility.
Never mind....
Sorry I mentioned it...
>>http://davidandmollie.com/vtours/discovery/075.jpg >>http://davidandmollie.com/vtours/discovery/076.jpg > > If I had such a fence, I would expect to see several cats sitting on > the posts most of the time. It wouldn't keep them in: my cats have to > leap about that high just to get to the platform for the cat flap. Ted Davis - 19 Nov 2006 17:33 GMT >I guess, in spite of my clarification that if your cats are jumpers it won't >work, this was an exercise in futility. > >Never mind.... > >Sorry I mentioned it... Non-jumping cats are rare, except for old, fat, or unhealthy ones. I have fifteen cats, and all but the oldest and most feeble male leap readily - some from the floor to high closet shelves. Even the obese one manages the 38 inch leap to the cat flap platform.
However, even though my fences were designed to control cattle and don't even slow down cats and other small animals, and based on where I've seen my cats and which ones bring home ticks, fewer than half even leave the immediate yard, and only three or four leave the property at all. If as long as your cats consider the fence as the limit of both their territory and their range, you shouldn't have any problem.
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kraut - 20 Nov 2006 14:17 GMT One thing I learned about these groups (Not only the cat groups) is that no matter what a person asks or says there is always someone who disagrees with them or tells them they are nuts nor is it easy to get a answer to a straight question that is asked.
For instance a while back someone asked about an upright vac I beleive it was that would fix under a bed to vac cat hair from carpet and they got answers like using a mop with a rag around it to a cannister vac but never what they asked. When the person pointed out what he asked originally everyone was all over them for not being happy with the answers they gave. Rag on a mop to clean cat hair from a carpet under a bed???? Go figure!!!
>I guess, in spite of my clarification that if your cats are jumpers it won't >work, this was an exercise in futility. > >Never mind.... > >Sorry I mentioned it...
>>>http://davidandmollie.com/vtours/discovery/075.jpg >>>http://davidandmollie.com/vtours/discovery/076.jpg Ted Davis - 20 Nov 2006 21:02 GMT >One thing I learned about these groups (Not only the cat groups) is >that no matter what a person asks or says there is always someone who [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >answers they gave. Rag on a mop to clean cat hair from a carpet under >a bed???? Go figure!!! Questions like that - those that place all sorts of unusual constraints on the expected answers are usually taken as requests for realistic solutions to the real, not the percieved, problem. In your case, the real problem is how to get cat hair out from under the bed. One solution that I don't think anyone mentioned is simply to move the bed - assuming that's practical, for example, I tip mine on it's side, then use my regular vacuum cleaner.
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green - 20 Nov 2006 22:56 GMT > One thing I learned about these groups (Not only the cat groups) is > that no matter what a person asks or says there is always someone who > disagrees with them or tells them they are nuts nor is it easy to get > a answer to a straight question that is asked. That is the nature of Usenet today. In the early days of the net, Usenet was a useful source of information, not so anymore. The bulk of Usenet is now political bickering and a home for sociopaths. Fortunately, there are places on the net where serious information can still be obtained, but unfortunately, these are almost always moderated forums to keep out the societal misfits.
oldhickory - 21 Nov 2006 19:40 GMT You're right. I was expecting something different. Dialogue and sharing, not judgement and condescension.
You've helped me make up my mind. I'll just "plonk" myself.
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>> One thing I learned about these groups (Not only the cat groups) is >> that no matter what a person asks or says there is always someone who [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > these are almost always moderated forums to keep out the > societal misfits. Dan Espen - 21 Nov 2006 20:48 GMT >>> One thing I learned about these groups (Not only the cat groups) is >>> that no matter what a person asks or says there is always someone who [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > You've helped me make up my mind. I'll just "plonk" myself. No, he's not right.
This rant goes from "there is always someone" to "the bulk of".
While I agree with the former, I strongly disagree with the later.
While Usenet has seen better days, I'm sure the bulk of the people in alt.cats come here for information about their cats and to help fellow cat owners.
green - 21 Nov 2006 21:38 GMT >>>> One thing I learned about these groups (Not only the cat groups) is >>>> that no matter what a person asks or says there is always someone who [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > of the people in alt.cats come here for information > about their cats and to help fellow cat owners. alt.cats is not a bad group, and I have gotten some good info on cats here, but like all of Usenet, one should carefully evaluate what info is posted here. Overall, Usenet has gone to the dogs, but there are isolated exceptions. Never, never post your real name or valid contact info anywhere on Usenet. Now, if you disagree with that sage advice, why go right ahead and do what you want.
Dan Espen - 21 Nov 2006 22:23 GMT >>>>> One thing I learned about these groups (Not only the cat groups) is >>>>> that no matter what a person asks or says there is always someone who [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > on Usenet. Now, if you disagree with that sage advice, > why go right ahead and do what you want. Thanks.
This is my real name. I'm not hard to find.
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