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Walmart discontinues Arm & Hammer litter

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AKA gray asphalt - 08 Nov 2006 06:58 GMT
the yellow, light one. I really like it but it is so different, I bet not
many people tried it. It's a little to perfumy but it clumps a lot better
than anything else I've tried and it lasts a really long time. It is also
much easier to scoop.

Anybody else?

I wish Walmart had given it a longer time to get attention and Arm & Hammer
had advertised it more. Maybe it will be available other places.
Ted Davis - 08 Nov 2006 13:00 GMT
>the yellow, light one. I really like it but it is so different, I bet not
>many people tried it. It's a little to perfumy but it clumps a lot better
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>I wish Walmart had given it a longer time to get attention and Arm & Hammer
>had advertised it more. Maybe it will be available other places.

Anything you become dependent on will soon be discontinued by Walmart.
Or moved to a different part of the store so you can't find it.

I'm currently using "Best Choice" brand scoopable litter - it's a
house brand of a regional grocery store chain.  It's distributed by
Associated Wholesale Grocers of Kansas City, Kansas (the nearest big
city to the west of where I live).

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tension_on_the_wire - 09 Nov 2006 07:24 GMT
> the yellow, light one. I really like it but it is so different, I bet not
> many people tried it. It's a little to perfumy but it clumps a lot better
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> I wish Walmart had given it a longer time to get attention and Arm & Hammer
> had advertised it more. Maybe it will be available other places.

Check your Grocery stores which do sell other Arm & Hammer
products.  I found it there.  Stunk to high heaven for me....neither
I nor the cats can tolerate scented, perfumed, or "wafting"
litter, so it hadda go!!  We do put baking soda in our
other litter though.  It helps alot.

--tension
AKA gray asphalt - 10 Nov 2006 01:31 GMT
>> the yellow, light one. I really like it but it is so different, I bet not
>> many people tried it. It's a little to perfumy but it clumps a lot better
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>
> --tension

When you say wafting, you mean that it was too light? I found that easier to
scoop and that it was flushable. You gotta admit it clumped, right?
tension_on_the_wire - 10 Nov 2006 07:46 GMT
> >> the yellow, light one. I really like it but it is so different, I bet not
> >> many people tried it. It's a little to perfumy but it clumps a lot better
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> When you say wafting, you mean that it was too light? I found that easier to
> scoop and that it was flushable. You gotta admit it clumped, right?

No, I mean smells that waft everywhere and can't be avoided, heh.
It did clump, but the nose opposed, so that was that for us, cats
and I were in consensus on that one.  We would rather smell
the cat's contributions than wafty perfumes.  But I'm one of
those people who gets migraine from room freshener sprays,
and other people's perfumes too, so consider me outside
the pale on that one.

--tension
AKA gray asphalt - 10 Nov 2006 23:45 GMT
>> >> the yellow, light one. I really like it but it is so different, I bet
>> >> not
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>
> --tension

I wrote a litter (pun intended) to Arm & Hammer asking them to put out a
less scented version and to do some promotion before the line is
discountinued. I like it that much.
Wayne Boatwright - 10 Nov 2006 01:39 GMT
Oh pshaw, on Tue 07 Nov 2006 11:58:06p, AKA gray asphalt meant to say...

> the yellow, light one. I really like it but it is so different, I bet
> not many people tried it. It's a little to perfumy but it clumps a lot
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> I wish Walmart had given it a longer time to get attention and Arm &
> Hammer had advertised it more. Maybe it will be available other places.

We buy Arm & Hammer litter at PetsMart, usually the unscented multi-cat
variety.  The few times we've bought the scented type it wasn't too bad.

Arm & Hammer is the *only* litter that has prevented "litter box odor" for
us.  We have 5 kitties.

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tension_on_the_wire - 10 Nov 2006 07:49 GMT
> Oh pshaw, on Tue 07 Nov 2006 11:58:06p, AKA gray asphalt meant to say...
>
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> Arm & Hammer is the *only* litter that has prevented "litter box odor" for
> us.  We have 5 kitties.

Yeah, even the unscented type smelled to me.  Of too much
baking soda, I guess.  But baking soda is good for controlling
litter box odor, and so I do sprinkle some from an ordinary
small box of Arm and Hammer into the regular cat litter
we use (ScoopAway, unscented, I believe) and that is
more than enough to do the trick with odor, and best
of all.....no wafting, hahah.

--tension
Wayne Boatwright - 10 Nov 2006 14:55 GMT
Oh pshaw, on Fri 10 Nov 2006 12:49:26a, tension_on_the_wire meant to say...

>> Oh pshaw, on Tue 07 Nov 2006 11:58:06p, AKA gray asphalt meant to say...
>>
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>
> --tension

Guess you have a more sensitive nose for "scents" and baking soda than we
do. :-)

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MaryL - 11 Nov 2006 02:18 GMT
>> Oh pshaw, on Tue 07 Nov 2006 11:58:06p, AKA gray asphalt meant to say...
>>
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>
> --tension

I do not detect any odor at all from the litter boxes.  I use Better Way
litter (can be hard to find, but it is the softest I have used).  It is
unscented, but there is still no odor.  I use this "litter lifter" for
scooping, in combination with the Better Way litter (and occasionally with
other litter if I can't get Better Way):  http://tinyurl.com/y4zzzl

I scoop often, and this litter lifter really does make all the difference --  
the "tines" on it are wedge-shaped, and unused litter simply drops through
without ever breaking up litter that contains urine.

MaryL
Wayne Boatwright - 11 Nov 2006 06:57 GMT
Oh pshaw, on Fri 10 Nov 2006 07:18:58p, MaryL meant to say...

>>> Oh pshaw, on Tue 07 Nov 2006 11:58:06p, AKA gray asphalt meant to
>>> say...
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> simply drops through without ever breaking up litter that contains
> urine.

We have been using the Durascoop for quite some time with great success.

       http://www.durascoop.com/

We have 5 cats and they all seem to prefer a very deep layer of litter.  
This scoop is the only one we've used that can handle the weight of the
litter without cracking at some point.  The litter falls through easily.

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MaryL - 11 Nov 2006 14:14 GMT
> Oh pshaw, on Fri 10 Nov 2006 07:18:58p, MaryL meant to say...
>
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> This scoop is the only one we've used that can handle the weight of the
> litter without cracking at some point.  The litter falls through easily.

Yes, mine also like deep litter.  I haven't seen the Dura Scoop, but one
thing I like about Litter Lifter is that *no shaking* is required -- all
unused litter instantly sifts through the tines.  The reason that is
important is that it means urine clumps are not broken up when scooping, and
that is where a lot of odor is released.  I have never had a Litter Lifter
break or crack, even after digging to the bottom.  What about Dura Scoop?
Do you need to "shake" the litter, or does it work as I described?

MaryL
Wayne Boatwright - 11 Nov 2006 15:35 GMT
Oh pshaw, on Sat 11 Nov 2006 07:14:36a, MaryL meant to say...

>> Oh pshaw, on Fri 10 Nov 2006 07:18:58p, MaryL meant to say...
>>
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> Dura Scoop? Do you need to "shake" the litter, or does it work as I
> described?

As you described.  We keep 4 litterboxes for 5 cats.  A lot of litter
scooping. :-)

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AKA gray asphalt - 11 Nov 2006 21:50 GMT
> Oh pshaw, on Sat 11 Nov 2006 07:14:36a, MaryL meant to say...
>
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> As you described.  We keep 4 litterboxes for 5 cats.  A lot of litter
> scooping. :-)

It seems to me, no offense, that the DuraScoop does not have the same kind
of tynes, if they can be called that, that the Litter lifter does. I ordered
a DD and will post if it is as great as the OP says, imo. It looks like a
good innovation.
Wayne Boatwright - 12 Nov 2006 00:26 GMT
Oh pshaw, on Sat 11 Nov 2006 02:50:21p, AKA gray asphalt meant to say...

>> Oh pshaw, on Sat 11 Nov 2006 07:14:36a, MaryL meant to say...
>>
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> I ordered a DD and will post if it is as great as the OP says, imo. It
> looks like a good innovation.

Obviously they are not identical.  The openings in the Durascoop are wide
enough to allow the clean litter to fall through with no problem.  We all
have our favorites. :-)

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Diana - 11 Nov 2006 20:35 GMT
I am really hoping someone can offer me an opinion.

I have two cats, Pixie who is 4 and Lucky who is 2 and is Pixie's
daughter.  They are in and out cats.

Both are litterbox trained though Lucky prefers to go outside.

Pixie is very high strung, likes only me and will tolerate Lucky but
it's been a fairly happy house for both kitties as far as equal love
and attention.

Today Lucky was drinking out of the kitchen faucet, Pixie jumped up on
the counter too - I petted and talked to both - Pixie walked over
Lucky, straddled my mixing bowl set and peed in them.  I didn't yell
as I didn't want to frighten her and pee all over the counter but I
did raise my voice.  She knew I was ticked as she ran for the door.

I left her outside but my husband let her in and she pooped on a bed.

Her behaviour has been so bizarre lately - even for a cat.  About a
month ago she disappeared for 7 days.  When she came back, she was
healthy but didn't want to go outside for a couple of weeks.  She used
her litterboxes fine (we keep three litter boxes in the basement).  

She is very clingy to me (she is sitting on the back of my chair as I
type) and I am so upset about her behaviour.  She means the world to
me but my husband has reached the end of his rope.

I have tried to think of anything that has changed in our house lately
and I come up blank. No change of food except for the fact lately
Pixie really wants what we eat - chicken or beef meat where she was
content with cat food.

Sorry for the length - I wanted to make sure all the behaviour factors
were included.

Thanks so much,
Diana
Note to self: Buy more brimstone
Space - 11 Nov 2006 21:48 GMT
she sounds stressed or ill.

my cat Charlie was peeing all around the house because he was ill.

re stress.  cats don't like changes to routine.  has anything else happened
lately?  this could range from a new baby to a re-design of a kitchen!!

seriously, they are fickle creatures.

> I am really hoping someone can offer me an opinion.
>
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> Diana
> Note to self: Buy more brimstone
AKA gray asphalt - 11 Nov 2006 21:56 GMT
>I am really hoping someone can offer me an opinion.
>
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> Diana
> Note to self: Buy more brimstone

I think you answered your own question. She may have been traumatized while
outside. It seems like 2 weeks is a long time for a cat to not want to go
outside, if she/he normally does that. I often forget that humans and
animals can have delayed reactions to events. She may just be feeling
comfortable enough to start showing some stress. My most comfortable cats
seem to have the worst behavior sometimes because, possible, they are living
in less fear and can be more like their normal selves. They seem to learn
quicker to, to not do bad things, with a little gentle prodding, althhough
it usually isn't a yes/no kind of thing, like you would get with a harsh
punishment, but more a gradual but noticeable change in bahavior that seems
to be generalize to other behavior that they probably relize is annoying
also.
tension_on_the_wire - 12 Nov 2006 01:45 GMT
> I am really hoping someone can offer me an opinion.
>
> I have two cats, Pixie who is 4 and Lucky who is 2 and is Pixie's
> daughter.  They are in and out cats.

Is Pixie spayed?

-tension
Diana - 12 Nov 2006 03:14 GMT
>> I am really hoping someone can offer me an opinion.
>>
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>
>-tension

No.

Diana

Note to self: Buy more brimstone
Rhonda - 12 Nov 2006 05:54 GMT
>>>I am really hoping someone can offer me an opinion.
>>>
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>
> No.

Oh wow, good question!

So she could now be pregnant, which would make sense with her
disappearance and change of behavior.

The vet should be able to tell that when you take her in.

Rhonda
Rhonda - 12 Nov 2006 02:27 GMT
Hi Diana,

I would get her to a vet and get a full check-up (including blood-work.)
She could have a bladder infection or other medical problems. It's best
to eliminate those before you worry about the behavior.

If the medical is okay, come back to the group and ask again --
especially about stress. Lots of people will have good ideas. Feliway
dispensers is often recommended to calm down kitties, but I haven't
tried them.

That's too bad that your husband is at the end of his rope after only
two incidents. Can you talk him into having more patience so you have
time to get this resolved?

Let us know what happens,

Rhonda

> I am really hoping someone can offer me an opinion.
>
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> Diana
> Note to self: Buy more brimstone
Diana - 12 Nov 2006 03:22 GMT
>Hi Diana,
>
>I would get her to a vet and get a full check-up (including blood-work.)
>She could have a bladder infection or other medical problems. It's best
>to eliminate those before you worry about the behavior.

Everyone here has been very kind with their answers - I really
appreciate it.  A medical exam first would be the best.

>That's too bad that your husband is at the end of his rope after only
>two incidents. Can you talk him into having more patience so you have
>time to get this resolved?

Well we aren't at the "it's me or the cat" stage... 'cause damn I'd
really miss him :))))

It's just she was always a good cat and then almost out of the blue,
she has become almost defiant where she pees or poops.

Thanks for all your support.
Diana
Note to self: Buy more brimstone
Rhonda - 12 Nov 2006 05:55 GMT
> Well we aren't at the "it's me or the cat" stage... 'cause damn I'd
> really miss him :))))

That is too funny!

I love those signs that say "Husband and dog missing. Reward for dog."

Rhonda
tension_on_the_wire - 12 Nov 2006 07:12 GMT
> > Well we aren't at the "it's me or the cat" stage... 'cause damn I'd
> > really miss him :))))
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>
> Rhonda

I prefer the one that says "Free to a good home, one husband or one
cat,
your choice."

--tension
AKA gray asphalt - 13 Nov 2006 04:15 GMT
> Hi Diana,
>
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>> Diana
>> Note to self: Buy more brimstone

I agree that a medical reason should be ruled out first. Great point.
 
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