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Cat pooping right outside the litter box on the cement balcony

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popcorn10cents - 01 Nov 2006 20:35 GMT
This has been going of for a year...thought he would grow out of it.  The box
can be immaculate and he will pee in it but not poop.  I've tried having two
litter boxes, one for my female cat.  The bad boy is now fixed and nothing
has changed...just a hope.  I have shown it to him and said "bad boy" over
and over.   I think he was 4 months when we got him and he might have been on
the street before making it to the pet store.  Nothing came out when he
meowed because he probably had cried so much.  He's a sweet little rascal,
but this is getting real old.  I've tried all the different litters too.  I
hate to put out a bunch of $$$ for a fancy electric cat box because what if
that doesn't work...I'm out a bunch of $$$.  Also, he does't know to cover
his poop the few times he has gone in the box.  He scratches the plastic hood
over the box???  And then strangely enough he tries to cover up his wet food.
He scratches the floor around the dish???  Outside he has even carried a leaf
to cover up the poop on the cement balcony.  This is very strange behavior.
I've always had rather "normal" cats.  Way back everybody said to get rid of
Rocky, but I just could not do that but this is getting to me.  Any
suggestions?  Thank you.  Merridy
ChristyLynn - 02 Nov 2006 01:15 GMT
Have you tried different litters as well?  That's all I can think of.  He
may not like the texture or scent of the litter itself.

And yes, a couple of my cats try to cover their food, or partially eaten
food of another one of our cats by scratching the floor.  I've even seen one
of my cats do this to dry food.  Normal!  :)
Roby - 02 Nov 2006 15:19 GMT
An unknown member of my herd occasionally does the same thing.  When I call
a Family Meeting and ask whodunit, there is a lot of paw-pointing all
around but the perpetrator remains unknown.

Close to the box says Rocky knows where it oughta go.  Smart kitty!  Do you
suppose he's a little uneasy about pooping in an enclosed (hooded) box?
Have you tried an open box (e.g., plastic dishpan)?  Mine seem to prefer
this arrangement.  Each pan is placed in the middle of a large tray (approx
3 feet square) with low sides that catches (most) of the litter that gets
pawed out.

Roby
---MIKE--- - 02 Nov 2006 18:42 GMT
Get rid of the cover.  

                 ---MIKE---
>>In the White Mountains of New Hampshire
>> (44° 15'  N - Elevation 1580')
Glenn (Christian Mystic) - 16 Dec 2006 21:32 GMT
> An unknown member of my herd occasionally does the same thing.  When I
> call
> a Family Meeting and ask whodunit, there is a lot of paw-pointing all
> around but the perpetrator remains unknown.

:-)

> Close to the box says Rocky knows where it oughta go.  Smart kitty!  Do
> you
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>
> Roby
~*Connie*~ - 02 Nov 2006 02:11 GMT
so, you have more than one cat, and you have one box? and it is covered?

Some cats are particular and refuse to both poop and pee in one box.  The
experts recommend 1.5 litter boxes per cat, so if you have two cats, three
boxes wouldn't be out of the norm.  There is a litter out there called Cat
Attract that is designed to attract your cat to the litter.

Since it sounds like your litterbox is covered, uncover it.  Most cats don't
like to be crowded when they use the facilities.  Consider where you put the
box.  Is it a high traffic area?  Might he not feel comfortable using it due
to lots of noise?

Not covering poop is usually  a sign of dominance.  Trying to state that he
is the alpha cat.  it is also a sign of old age, and no longer being
bothered to care who is the alpha cat.  My elderly arthritic cat hates going
IN the box, she likes to go outside of it, so I simply cover the area with
pads.  I started out with puppy pads, but realized that under pads (stuff
they put under bed bound people) work just as well and are cheaper.

Not using the box is usually one of two things, a medical issue, or a
behavior issue.  Cats prefer to go in a litter box.  If they are not, it
isn't to spite you (USUALLY) it is because something isn't right.  Figure
out what that is, and you'll fix the problem.

> This has been going of for a year...thought he would grow out of it.  The
> box
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> Rocky, but I just could not do that but this is getting to me.  Any
> suggestions?  Thank you.  Merridy
Glenn (Christian Mystic) - 16 Dec 2006 20:43 GMT
Good advice, thanks.

> so, you have more than one cat, and you have one box? and it is covered?
>
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>> Rocky, but I just could not do that but this is getting to me.  Any
>> suggestions?  Thank you.  Merridy
sheelagh_madden@hotmail.co.uk - 04 Nov 2006 22:45 GMT
> This has been going of for a year...thought he would grow out of it.  The box
> can be immaculate and he will pee in it but not poop.  I've tried having two
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> Rocky, but I just could not do that but this is getting to me.  Any
> suggestions?  Thank you.  Merridy
Glenn (Christian Mystic) - 16 Dec 2006 22:49 GMT
Please excuse my appearant top posting...
I am going to address a small thing I noticed below...

But first a short 'top post'
I didn't know the solution to your problem, but I took some of the advice
the others here as I was having the same problem with one of my two
sweethearts.

> This has been going of for a year...thought he would grow out of it.  The
> box
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> has changed...just a hope.  I have shown it to him and said "bad boy" over
> and over.....

This is what caught my eye, my two cats are 'trained' to do a number of
things, including play fetch, shake hands, play dead, tell me when someone's
at the door, even hang my phone...

Cats aren't like dogs, note the quotation marks on 'trained' (above)...
while dogs learn from rewards and punishments... punishments defeat the
purpose, and often makes cats *worse*... They learn almost entirely by
rewards, you wait for things you like, Sammy, for example, just happened to
bring something to me, I made over him, petted and cooed over him... so he
started bringing more things to me... then one day I tossed it, and he
brought it back ! So I now have a cat 'trained' to fetch, after awhile, he
learned to fetch things I ask for !!!

Hint: reinforcement is absolute, you fail to do this, and the trick will
disappear after a while.

Just thought I would mention this.
William Graham - 16 Dec 2006 23:55 GMT
"Glenn (Christian Mystic)" <christianmystic1@peoplepc.com> wrote in

my two cats are 'trained' to do a number of
> things, including play fetch, shake hands, play dead, tell me when
> someone's at the door, even hang my phone...
>
> Cats aren't like dogs, note the quotation marks on 'trained' (above)...
> while dogs learn from rewards and punishments... punishments defeat the
> purpose, and often makes cats *worse*...

This reminds me of a cartoon I saw in the, "New Yorker Magazine" a number of
years ago.....It was a room which had been completely destroyed....All the
furniture was scratched to pieces, as were the drapes and the walls....There
was a guy setting in the middle of the floor, and he was all scratched up
too. On the glass paneled half open door were the letters, "Carl's Cat
Obedience School".......
Glenn (Christian Mystic) - 17 Dec 2006 19:09 GMT
> "Glenn (Christian Mystic)" <christianmystic1@peoplepc.com> wrote in
>
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> all scratched up too. On the glass paneled half open door were the
> letters, "Carl's Cat Obedience School".......

ROFWL :-)  Maybe that's why I just stick with my own cats !
 
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