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Persian giving birth / kittens not nursing.

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deena - 03 Oct 2006 16:54 GMT
My persian just had kittens yesterday.  She had three and seems to be doing
okay.  I don't think that the kittens are nursing though.  How can i tell?  I
looked at her nipples and there is no sign that they have nursed.  i went
ahead and intervened with milk replacement and have fed them on a syringe
since last night.  She also seems to want to have me constantly with her and
will leave her kittens when I leave the room, then scratch and cry @ the door.
I placed a heating pad under them on low with towels placed between them and
the kittens.  Any suggestions, please help!
Matthew - 03 Oct 2006 21:58 GMT
> My persian just had kittens yesterday.  She had three and seems to be
> doing
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> and
> the kittens.  Any suggestions, please help!

Are the kittens constantly crying  if so   you are going to have to treat
them as orphaned kittens
Read this  it is Phil's site from another group rec.pets.cats.health+behav
http://www.maxshouse.com/kitten_care.htm#Caring%20for%20Orphan%20Kittens
Cadman - 05 Oct 2006 00:10 GMT
As usual, matthew is steering you in the wrong direction.

The ONLY way to tell if the little kittens are truly nursing is immediate exploratory surgery.

You can pick up a scalpel and suture kit at any medical supply store, preferably a Veterinary
medical supply store.  You want to make sure you know where to make the incision, so I would
purchase a Veterinary Surgery for Dummies book at any bookstore, preferably a local bookstore - I
don't like to support the big Borders/B&N type chain stores.

Once you have studied the anatomy of a kitten (THOROUGHLY!), you can proceed to make your incision.
 Don't worry! I know what you're thinking: "It'll hurt the poor kitten!" But contrary to what the
Christian Conservatives will tell you, animals don't feel ANYthing for the first week or so of life.
 Obviously you don't want to disfigure the poor little things, so be careful!  Once you have
penetrated the stomach, you can examine its contents for the presence of milk.

Now, be careful!  Just because one kitten does or doesn't have milk in their stomach, that does not
mean that the others will be the same.  To be sure, you should repeat the procedure for each kitten.
 It may seem like a lot of work, but if you are truly concerned, it is the least you can do.

I can tell you are a devoted Cat-Lover!  Good luck!  Your Love will insure your kittens' survival.

>> My persian just had kittens yesterday.  She had three and seems to be
>> doing
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> Read this  it is Phil's site from another group rec.pets.cats.health+behav
> http://www.maxshouse.com/kitten_care.htm#Caring%20for%20Orphan%20Kittens 
Matthew - 05 Oct 2006 00:16 GMT
Well well I see you decide to reveal yourself and stop playing games.

 Still an a@@hole I see

Everyone say hello to Cadman  a waste of life that thinks he is a good
guy.Also that he got picked on last time by me and the group.   You all can
make your judgement about this waste just by what he post.  He had been
added back in my delete file
Glenn (Christian Mystic) - 16 Dec 2006 21:26 GMT
You obviously hate cats, your 'advice' is like teaching kittens to swim
under water,,, idiot !

> As usual, matthew is steering you in the wrong direction.
>
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>> rec.pets.cats.health+behav
>> http://www.maxshouse.com/kitten_care.htm#Caring%20for%20Orphan%20Kittens
Rhonda - 04 Oct 2006 02:14 GMT
> My persian just had kittens yesterday.  She had three and seems to be doing
> okay.  I don't think that the kittens are nursing though.  How can i tell?  I
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> I placed a heating pad under them on low with towels placed between them and
> the kittens.  Any suggestions, please help!

You might call the vet. New mothers normally don't leave the babies at
all. Is this her first time?

The litter we had here were either sleeping or eating all of the time at
first. Will the mother let you put the kittens up to her stomach when
she's laying there?

I would talk it over with the vet. Sounds like you're taking good care
of them.

Rhonda
~*Connie*~ - 05 Oct 2006 00:04 GMT
Is your kitty a first time mother?  It might explain a few things.

I have had several first time mothers in my fostering, and quite often they
have no idea what to do with the things that just popped out of them.  Try
enclosing her in a small space with the kittens.  The kittens know what to
do.

My last mother gave birth all over the room she was in.  It looked like a
massacre.  Fortunately I found them (it was the middle of the night) several
were cold and almost dead.  I warmed them up, and put them in a carrier, and
put the mom in there with them.  They found her nipples, and I think she
liked the endorphins from nursing.  It was obvious that she had no idea what
she was doing.

Give her praise when the kittens are attached to her, and if need be, put
her and them on your lap.  Keep them in a small space for a few days, things
should work out.  If not, you can feed the kittens..  (see note about
treating them as orphans)
> My persian just had kittens yesterday.  She had three and seems to be
> doing
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> and
> the kittens.  Any suggestions, please help!
 
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