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Cat Forum / General Topics / September 2006Book suggestions
I picked up a book called "How to Get your Cat to Do what you Want" and I would suggest it to anyone. The Author Warren Eckstein (spelling?) also has a Radio show on Sundays, late morning. He has a gentle training method that considers that cats instincts. He has the answers to many common problems I am seeing on this board. I just adopted my first cat several months ago, and found this book extremely helpful and informative. And no, I do not work for the Author... Anyone else have any recommendations? >I picked up a book called "How to Get your Cat to Do what you Want" and I >would suggest it to anyone. And my cat is in the process of writing a sequel to it called "Fat chance......" Cats will do what they want when they want. You can train them to a certain extent but ultimately they will still do what they want when they want. >The Author Warren Eckstein (spelling?) also has a >Radio show on Sundays, late morning. He has a gentle training method that >considers that cats instincts. He has the answers to many common problems I >am seeing on this board. I just adopted my first cat several months ago, and >found this book extremely helpful and informative. And the cats instincts is to be the one in charge. > >I picked up a book called "How to Get your Cat to Do what you Want" and I > >would suggest it to anyone. > And my cat is in the process of writing a sequel to it called > "Fat chance......"> > Cats will do what they want when they want. You can train them to a > certain extent but ultimately they will still do what they want > when they want. > >The Author Warren Eckstein (spelling?) also has a > >Radio show on Sundays, late morning. He has a gentle training method that > >considers that cats instincts. He has the answers to many common problems I > >am seeing on this board. I just adopted my first cat several months ago, and > >found this book extremely helpful and informative. > And the cats instincts is to be the one in charge. And therein lies the trick. If you can convince kittling that he *is* in charge when he does some certain thing you are working on, you're on the gravy train for life! I have, in the past, trained cats to walk on a leash, ride on my shoulder while on a bicycle, and wear hats. I trained Sarah-cat to leap six feet from anywhere into my arms upon saying the word "Peekaboo" with no facial expression or vocal intonation whatsoever cueing her. She would then proceed to play with my face, claws in, batting me about three or four times and then roll over and lie down in my arms like a hyoomaan baby. Every single time. And these things were reproducible and done upon command, because after enough time, they became routines that kittling came to expect. Even tiny little Muezza Glorio, two weeks old, still wet behind the ears, is already learning to come to me when I make certain gestures or sounds that do not involve food. There is no doubt that cats are independent creatures and that is why we love them. And there is no doubt that if they *do* choose to do something we ask, it is therefore a mighty honor, no sarcasm intended, as compared to a dog who is by nature a submissive pack animal and will do anything anyone trains them to do if they are not abused, and sometimes even if they *are* abused. But cats are certainly capable of love themselves, even if not as complex as the highest forms of love that humans are capable of, and I have seen cats do amazing things for the people that they love, regardless of their own will. Some cats are stubborner than others, just like some people, but that doesn't mean that *all* cats can't be trained. And there are some people that couldn't train a homing pigeon, and they will never be able to train a cat, no matter how much they love them, but that doesn't mean that *all* people cannot train cats, either. --tension >I have, in the past, trained cats to walk >on a leash, ride on my shoulder while on a bicycle, and wear hats. And as Jay Leno is fond of saying often on his show "you're cat is not going to wear that." Is it really a good idea to have your cat on the shoulder while you're riding a bicycle? If you're bicycle is passed by a big truck doing 60 + mph could the force of the air moving knock the cat over where it could be hit by a car? Also I believe around here the laws requires the cat be secured in a carrying case inside/on any moving vehicle. I >Some cats are stubborner than others, >just like some people, but that doesn't mean that *all* cats can't be >trained. While it can be done the task will never be easy, the cat will never willing do it. It will take much work/coercion/rewards on your part to accomplish it. There is a reason your local pet store offers dog training but doesn't offer cat training. > Is it really a good idea to have your cat on the shoulder while you're > riding a bicycle? If you're bicycle is passed by a big truck doing [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > willing do it. It will take much work/coercion/rewards on your part > to accomplish it. First of all, you are making a big assumption in saying that I would be irresponsible enough to ride my bicycle on the highway (the only road where it is legal to drive a truck at 60 + mph) which is totally illegal whether you have a cat on your shoulder or not. Second of all, it was a *great* idea to have my cat on my shoulder while riding my bicycle because I did actually make it past grade three and figure out in advance to wear a jacket she could really get her claws into, and I did actually walk with her on my shoulder for at least a year before we ever got on a bike together, and we did actually spend several years riding around little town roads where cars are seen maybe once an hour and taking her places I would take a cat, like low hiking trails that go for miles without meeting people never mind cars (as opposed to going downtown to the bank through city streets, which you seem to be implying). She did also wear a full harness with leash in hand just in case (though she never even once did) she might jump off due to some surprise or shock. Alarmist. Sour grapes will, perhaps, lead someone to your conclusions, but it must be admitted that for someone like you who believes wholeheartedly that cats cannot be trained, it follows that in your world it *is* true, because it could *never* be accomplished with your attitude. Self-fulfilling prophecy, I am sorry to say. Bah Humbug. --tension Right on, Tension, Right On! >> Is it really a good idea to have your cat on the shoulder while you're >> riding a bicycle? If you're bicycle is passed by a big truck doing [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > > --tension >First of all, you are making a big assumption in saying that I would be >irresponsible enough to ride my bicycle on the highway (the only road >where it is legal to drive a truck at 60 + mph) which is totally >illegal whether you have a cat on your shoulder or not. You've never ridden a bicycle have you? I've been riding for years and even though speed limit is 35 mph on a road that doesn't stop lots of vehicles from flying through at 60/70/80+ mph. I've ridden on roads where the speed limit is under 20 and you still get cars flying at 70+ mph. Around here there are school zones where the speed limit is 20 mph but vehicles still fly through at much faster speeds. And these are not highways. BTW, this is in a city where there are lots of cars. > You've never ridden a bicycle have you? I've been > riding for years and even though speed limit is [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > And these are not highways. I have been riding bicycles my whole life. And based on my experience I would have to say that if you are riding bicycles on roads where vehicles fly at 80 +, that is, eighty-plus miles per hour, then it is you who is the reckless one. Anyone who voluntarily chooses to ride a bicycle on major six-lane city boulevards, which are the only types of roads where cars can get away with that level of speed violation, is showing suicidal tendencies. I'm aware that for some, it is a necessity for work, for example, if one does not drive, but even then, one can usually map out a quieter, less dangerous route, and if not, then one can walk or coast the bicycle through the unavoidably risky areas. There are many ways to ride a bicycle responsibly, without becoming the bane of any car-driver's existence, and staying away from high-speed traffic is certainly a valuable one. It is people like you who give responsible bicyclists a bad name. If the city you live in is *that* big, then may I suggest you get a bus pass? --tension >I have been riding bicycles my whole life. And based on my >experience I would have to say that if you are riding bicycles >on roads where vehicles fly at 80 +, that is, eighty-plus >miles per hour, then it is you who is the reckless one. Wake and smell the coffee. These are roads in front of schools where the speed limit is 20mph. Still doesn't stop cars from breaking the speed limit big time. >Anyone >who voluntarily chooses to ride a bicycle on major six-lane >city boulevards, which are the only types of roads where >cars can get away with that level of speed violation, >is showing suicidal tendencies. What part of this is a two lane road in front of a school in a school zone do you not comprehend? Even on roads where the speed limit is 35mph you still get cars flying past at 80+ mph. > Even on roads where the speed limit is 35mph you still get > cars flying past at 80+ mph. Only if you leave near a jail with a lot of escapes. --tension >> Even on roads where the speed limit is 35mph you still get >> cars flying past at 80+ mph. > >Only if you leave near a jail with a lot of escapes. > >--tension No this is in a school zone in an urban setting. No jails nearby. > Wake and smell the coffee. These are roads in front of schools > where the speed limit is 20mph. Still doesn't stop cars from [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Even on roads where the speed limit is 35mph you still get > cars flying past at 80+ mph. No, you do not. At the most, in a school zone, you get the occasional irresponsible driver who thinks he can get away with it, and perhaps zooms through at 50, maybe 60mph, if he is willing to have his license yanked when he gets caught. A driver almost as foolish as you are a bicyclist. And very rare, in a school zone. No one, even the most outlaw-minded, wants to get nabbed for nailing a kid outside a school. Your tendency to exaggerate and manipulate your own words after the fact in order to act like you were right all along is showing, and it does not suit you. The origin of this thread was a simple remark that I have taken my cat on a bicycle, and I clarified that in response to your malicious desire to make me look like an irresponsible diletantte in cat ownership by suggesting that I took my cat to places where she could get, and I quote "blown off my shoulder" by the speed of a car going at highway speed. Instead of graciously admitting your error, you persist in replying to my posts in a desperate desire to be right about something...*ANYTHING*, just to get the last word. You picked the wrong person to do that against, my friend. I came here to this newsgroup to meet like-minded people, and you are nothing but grumpy, cantankerous, and willing to say *ANYTHING* just to start an argument with people in this group. (Like labelling a complement to Eleanor Roosevelt as an insult to Hilary Clinton, give me a break!!). You are now trying to imply that people regularly drive their cars through school zones at 80 plus miles per hour which can no longer be considered an exaggeration, but an outright lie. I don't care where you live, unless it's Cairo, that does not happen. 80 miles per hour is 20 mph *ABOVE* the *HIGHWAY* speed limit, and you are saying that people drive this speed on two-lane (very big city) streets with lots of cars. Sounds very much like you don't know what you are talking about and are desperately trying to get the last word on this thread. Ain't gonna work. Get a bus pass, please, before you endanger someone, if only yourself. --tension >> Wake and smell the coffee. These are roads in front of schools >> where the speed limit is 20mph. Still doesn't stop cars from [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >when he gets caught. Not around here. This is a busy main road. If the expressway is backed up at rush hour this is popular alternate route. Many of those cars break the speed limit big time. I've lived near this school for about seven years, i've never seen anyone pulled over for speeding through this school zone. A driver almost as foolish as you are a >bicyclist. >And very rare, in a school zone. No one, even the most outlaw-minded, [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] > >--tension How did the subject of this thread become about biking on dangerious roads? Back to the book. Yes the title is a little mis-leading. The basic premise of the book is :you can't teach a cat not to scratch, but you can teach it what to scratch. Anyway, make sure you wear a helmet and reflective clothing. later >How did the subject of this thread become about biking on dangerious roads? Because someone started out saying the bicycle down the road with a cat on their shoulder. After many encounters with cars over the years including a number of fellow cyclists who have been hit by cars I questioned whether it was really a good idea.
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