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todd@copelandhome.net - 19 Sep 2006 07:09 GMT
I mentioned a couple of months ago that I would be moving from FL to
UT. Well today is the day! My two cats will be in car carriers for the
trip. I'm sure they will _not_ like that one bit. I'm not that worried
about the car ride as I'm sure they will get tired whining after an
hour or so. I'm just a little worried about the hotel room. One cat is
very shy and hides whenever someone comes in my house. I took them to
my parents house when my house was tented for termites and she only
came out in the middle of the night and never left the spare bedroom.
My parents will be with me for this 3 day more across the US. I did not
have enough time to get any type of sedative but I still think they
will be okay. I'll let you know how it goes.
The Polish-Kraut - 19 Sep 2006 13:27 GMT
>I mentioned a couple of months ago that I would be moving from FL to
>UT. Well today is the day! My two cats will be in car carriers for the
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>have enough time to get any type of sedative but I still think they
>will be okay. I'll let you know how it goes.

Prayers and purrs for an evebtfull move.
Professor - 19 Sep 2006 15:06 GMT
I doesn't surprise me that someone dumb enough to move to the backwards
state of Utah would also put his cats through the torture of a cross country
drive.  I can only hope they make a successful escape.

>I mentioned a couple of months ago that I would be moving from FL to
> UT. Well today is the day! My two cats will be in car carriers for the
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> have enough time to get any type of sedative but I still think they
> will be okay. I'll let you know how it goes.
wester@laway.net - 19 Sep 2006 15:55 GMT
Jeez, professor, who pissed in your cornflakes this morning?

>I doesn't surprise me that someone dumb enough to move to the backwards
>state of Utah would also put his cats through the torture of a cross country
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>> have enough time to get any type of sedative but I still think they
>> will be okay. I'll let you know how it goes.
Professor - 19 Sep 2006 18:03 GMT
Utah is chock full of Mormons and far-right Republicans.  Sure there is some
good skiing but that is about all that state has to offer, unless you're
into bigamy.  Driving 2000 miles is likely to permanently traumatize Todd's
cats.  It would never occur to him to have a friend put them on a plane at a
slightly later date.  I have little patience for folks like Todd offering to
document the suffering of his cats.

> Jeez, professor, who pissed in your cornflakes this morning?
>
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>>> have enough time to get any type of sedative but I still think they
>>> will be okay. I'll let you know how it goes.
No One You Know - 19 Sep 2006 18:24 GMT
"Professor" <vze3vvj2@verizon.net> whined & cried in a message:
> Utah is chock full of Mormons /////DRIVEL SNIPPED//////

Another loon from the far left fringe blows his wad while
worshiping his idol,  the fake war hero
John Kerry.........ROTFLMAO!
Professor - 19 Sep 2006 18:30 GMT
> "Professor" <vze3vvj2@verizon.net> whined & cried in a message:
>> Utah is chock full of Mormons /////DRIVEL SNIPPED//////
>
> Another loon from the far left fringe blows his wad while
> worshiping his idol,  the fake war hero
> John Kerry.........ROTFLMAO!

I actually dislike Kerry for not standing up to the facist Bush.  According
to Google you've never posted here before, and when you do it has nothing to
do with cats.  I don't feed trolls.
No One You Know - 19 Sep 2006 18:36 GMT
>> "Professor" <vze3vvj2@verizon.net> whined & cried in a message:
>>> Utah is chock full of Mormons /////DRIVEL SNIPPED//////
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> I actually dislike Kerry for not standing up to the facist
////////FLUSHED///////////

more Psycho-Babble from the looney left
Matthew - 19 Sep 2006 18:52 GMT
><sniped>

No you just defend them and put your foot in your mouth
wester@laway.net - 19 Sep 2006 19:29 GMT
>> "Professor" <vze3vvj2@verizon.net> whined & cried in a message:
>>> Utah is chock full of Mormons /////DRIVEL SNIPPED//////
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>to Google you've never posted here before, and when you do it has nothing to
>do with cats.  I don't feed trolls.

You just did.
darth_breather@yahoo.com - 19 Sep 2006 18:36 GMT
> Utah is chock full of Mormons and far-right Republicans.  Sure there is some
> good skiing but that is about all that state has to offer, unless you're
> into bigamy.  Driving 2000 miles is likely to permanently traumatize Todd's
> cats.  It would never occur to him to have a friend put them on a plane at a
> slightly later date.  I have little patience for folks like Todd offering to
> document the suffering of his cats.

Going alone by air in the hold would be more tramatic than going by car
with there famly.
myabe the cats are republican
No One You Know - 19 Sep 2006 18:40 GMT
>> Utah is chock full of Mormons and far-right Republicans.  Sure there is
>> some
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> with there famly.
> myabe the cats are republican

Actually, cats are more like Democrats.  They want everything
and do nothing to earn it, while complaining all the time.
Middleman - 05 Oct 2006 05:51 GMT
>>Going alone by air in the hold would be more tramatic than going by car
>>with there famly.
>>myabe the cats are republican

> Actually, cats are more like Democrats.  They want everything
> and do nothing to earn it

Because Republicans do anything to earn it? They want war, they lower taxes
for the rich and watch the deficit go:

http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock/

That's 8.5 trillion dollars debt US children will receive as a Republican legacy!
sihaya660@yahoo.com - 25 Sep 2006 04:27 GMT
Don't let them tell you for one second that cats can't learn to travel
although if they aren't use to it....how hard is it to go to the vet or
even a holistic pet store to get the cat equivelent of benedryl (Read
unisom) 2 of my cats travel extremely well but they had to be taught
fun thing to do when you don't drive and are using the city bus to
teach cats how to travel..see how many times I've had to repeat he's
not a pet he's a service animal..but if your only doing it ocne well I
don't know guys is valarium root available over the counter? -Kenda
> > Utah is chock full of Mormons and far-right Republicans.  Sure there is some
> > good skiing but that is about all that state has to offer, unless you're
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> with there famly.
> myabe the cats are republican
Matthew - 19 Sep 2006 18:55 GMT
"Professor" <vze3vvj2@verizon.net>

<snipped>

Just plain stupid

You always look for someway just like another member of the group to turn it
political or make a political statement that has nothing to do with cats
No One You Know - 19 Sep 2006 19:09 GMT
> "Professor" <vze3vvj2@verizon.net>
>
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> it political or make a political statement that has nothing to do with
> cats

Democreeps are still haunted by the 2000 election.........LOL!
Matthew - 19 Sep 2006 19:24 GMT
>> "Professor" <vze3vvj2@verizon.net>
>>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> Democreeps are still haunted by the 2000 election.........LOL!

So am I  I voted for him

As for politics they all are liars but I still vote Republican  at least I
can see their lies
Professor - 19 Sep 2006 19:32 GMT
>>> "Professor" <vze3vvj2@verizon.net>
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> As for politics they all are liars but I still vote Republican  at least I
> can see their lies

It is so obvious Dubya gives you an erection, you behave like a bully
yourself.
Matthew - 19 Sep 2006 19:41 GMT
>>>> "Professor" <vze3vvj2@verizon.net>
>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>> As for politics they all are liars but I still vote Republican  at least
>> I can see their lies

<snipped for being stupid>

ROFLMAO

Get over yourself  but still give us the good laughs

You are being a total loser today but that is not anything different than
any other day when you get off the subject of talking about cats.  We are
use to you and the other poster political b@llshit but it does get old.  So
time to grow up and get over the political  squalling.  You will have your
chance 2008  so deal with it till them.
No One You Know - 19 Sep 2006 20:35 GMT
>>>> "Professor" <vze3vvj2@verizon.net>
>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> It is so obvious Dubya gives you an erection, you behave like a bully
> yourself.

Send a check to Air America (they're going bankrupt), you'll feel
better.
Steve - 20 Sep 2006 21:21 GMT
> Utah is chock full of Mormons and far-right Republicans.  Sure there is some
> good skiing but that is about all that state has to offer, unless you're
> into bigamy.  Driving 2000 miles is likely to permanently traumatize Todd's
> cats.  It would never occur to him to have a friend put them on a plane at a
> slightly later date.  I have little patience for folks like Todd offering to
> document the suffering of his cats.

Just how traumatic it is will vary from cat to cat. In most cases, I
agree that flying is better, especially if it's a short flight.
However, I have one cat with whom I have flown only one time, and I can
tell you that there will NEVER, NEVER, NEVER, EVER, EVER be a second
time. It was hell for us both and it took her months (no I'm not
exaggerating) to return to normal. I would walk this particular cat
across North America in a wheel barrow before I'd fly with her again.
To this day I still feel guilty about what I put her through--though I
was in no position to know in advance that her reaction to flying would
be so negative and so intense.
Professor - 20 Sep 2006 21:29 GMT
>> Utah is chock full of Mormons and far-right Republicans.  Sure there is
>> some
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> was in no position to know in advance that her reaction to flying would
> be so negative and so intense.

That was a very unusually reaction to flying by that cat.  Flying
dramatically shortens the length of stress time.  Show cat breeders know,
they choose to fly cats rather than drive them whenever possible.
Andrea - 20 Sep 2006 23:35 GMT
Steve,
your wheelbarrow comment was hysterical!

I would like to back you up on this one.  I just drove 2500 miles for a
major relocation.  I have two cats.  One of them goes into a shaking,
screaming frenzy under stress, and it really doesn't take much.  My presence
is very little help to him, he just freaks regardless of my efforts to calm
him, even for short trips to the clinic.  That cat benefited from a flight
rather than the drive.  One day of misery vs. 5 was appropriate for him.

My other cat responds very well to my voice and presence under stress.  He
would have just died about flying, but in the car with me he did well after
the initial adjustment.  He buried himself for half day or so, but before
long he started to come around while I talked to him and started eating and
drinking normally.  By day 5 he was diggin' on the car ride.  No drugs
necessary, just calm exposure and presence of his mother.

Just depends on the personality of the cat!

Now, may I ask, show cats are usually pretty bomb proof aren't they?  Why
would the car stress them out?  That surprises me, I've been to a few cat
shows and it is loud and chaotic in those show arenas!

>>> Utah is chock full of Mormons and far-right Republicans.  Sure there is
>>> some
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> dramatically shortens the length of stress time.  Show cat breeders know,
> they choose to fly cats rather than drive them whenever possible.
Professor - 21 Sep 2006 00:34 GMT
>>>> Utah is chock full of Mormons and far-right Republicans.  Sure there is
>>>> some good skiing but that is about all that state has to offer, unless
[quoted text clipped - 40 lines]
> would the car stress them out?  That surprises me, I've been to a few cat
> shows and it is loud and chaotic in those show arenas!

Some cats get travel sickness and puke within the first few minutes of any
car ride.  It is an inner ear thing and can't be helped.  Air travel usually
doesn't make sense for short trips, but for long trips it is best to get it
over with as quickly as possible.  You can tell the veteran cat show cats,
they seem to be able to sleep through just about anything and yet still show
energy when being judged.
tension_on_the_wire - 21 Sep 2006 05:20 GMT
> Now, may I ask, show cats are usually pretty bomb proof aren't they?  Why
> would the car stress them out?  That surprises me, I've been to a few cat
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> > dramatically shortens the length of stress time.  Show cat breeders know,
> > they choose to fly cats rather than drive them whenever possible.

You know what, Andrea?  I get the feeling that maybe the show cats
*are* bomb proof, but the nervous owners are maybe *not*.  They are the
ones under stress, and, perhaps, not willing to put up with a five-day
car ride when they can get it over with in one.  After all, it's the
owners who are all nerves even when they *are* at the show.  The cats
would never be permitted such a personality in show biz....it's a
requirement or criterion in the judging.

I flew Sarah & Caitlin once, from LA to Toronto, with one stopover, and
it was just non-negotiable for me, they were so afraid & freaked out I
had to sedate them for the journey.  Never did it again.  

--tension
Andrea - 22 Sep 2006 00:20 GMT
Tension, you have no trouble getting giggles out of me :-)  I'm picturing
frazzled owners at shows with napping cats looking up at them every now and
again eyes half closed, bored, asking what their problem is!  Ha ha.  My
mind sees a cartoon of a grey haired owner looking a little like that boxing
ref with the hair that stands up.  Sorry, not a sports fan, but even I feel
silly not remembering that name.  Don something.

Anyway.... there was the giggle....

then you mentioned your two :-(  Glad they only had to do that once!

>> Now, may I ask, show cats are usually pretty bomb proof aren't they?  Why
>> would the car stress them out?  That surprises me, I've been to a few cat
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>
> --tension
Andrea - 22 Sep 2006 01:27 GMT
Don King!

I knew it would come to me.

> Tension, you have no trouble getting giggles out of me :-)  I'm picturing
> frazzled owners at shows with napping cats looking up at them every now
[quoted text clipped - 32 lines]
>>
>> --tension
tension_on_the_wire - 22 Sep 2006 07:15 GMT
> Tension, you have no trouble getting giggles out of me :-)

Maybe there should be a permanent Beverage Warning in front of my
name....you wouldn't want to read one of my posts drinking your morning
coffee...not that it isn't funny when you snort coffee out your nose,
but it is less than amusing if it lands in your keyboard!

--tension
Glenn (Christian Mystic) - 19 Dec 2006 19:45 GMT
>> Tension, you have no trouble getting giggles out of me :-)
>
> Maybe there should be a permanent Beverage Warning in front of my
> name....you wouldn't want to read one of my posts drinking your morning
> coffee...not that it isn't funny when you snort coffee out your nose,
> but it is less than amusing if it lands in your keyboard!

Lost count of the key boards which I have killed off in this way ;-)

> --tension

glenn (christian mystic)
sam diego - 26 Sep 2006 17:29 GMT
I consider Utah to be one of the most impressive places on earth. As a young
man I spent a lot of time there touring on my bike, camping out, and
deer/elk hunting. Yeah, there are a lot of mormon's there but there are also
a lot of Catholics in Mexico, where I go fishing. My attitude towards
different belief's is you dont' preach to me and we'll get along fine.
What's all this got to do with cats?
> Utah is chock full of Mormons and far-right Republicans.  Sure there is
> some good skiing but that is about all that state has to offer, unless
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
>>>> have enough time to get any type of sedative but I still think they
>>>> will be okay. I'll let you know how it goes.
tension_on_the_wire - 27 Sep 2006 06:06 GMT
> I consider Utah to be one of the most impressive places on earth. As a young
> man I spent a lot of time there touring on my bike, camping out, and
> deer/elk hunting. Yeah, there are a lot of mormon's there but there are also
> a lot of Catholics in Mexico, where I go fishing. My attitude towards
> different belief's is you dont' preach to me and we'll get along fine.
> What's all this got to do with cats?

Absolutely nothing, thank you for pointing that out.

--tension
Glenn (Christian Mystic) - 18 Dec 2006 22:53 GMT
It might surprise you, but I have had a number of cats who actually enjoyed
car trips :-)

> Utah is chock full of Mormons and far-right Republicans.  Sure there is
> some good skiing but that is about all that state has to offer, unless
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
>>>> have enough time to get any type of sedative but I still think they
>>>> will be okay. I'll let you know how it goes.
William Graham - 19 Dec 2006 01:18 GMT
> It might surprise you, but I have had a number of cats who actually
> enjoyed car trips :-)

We have a cat that rode all the way from Connecticut to Oregon in a car. Her
owners moved here in Salem, Oregon across the street from us, and then got a
dog. She couldn't stand the dog, so she moved in with us. She likes to sleep
in our car in the garage, and if we don't look carefully, we will end up
taking her with us when we drive somewhere.
Marvel - 19 Dec 2006 02:22 GMT
>> It might surprise you, but I have had a number of cats who actually
>> enjoyed car trips :-)
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> to sleep in our car in the garage, and if we don't look carefully, we will
> end up taking her with us when we drive somewhere.

When I have a party to go to I take my cat so he can drive me home
William Graham - 19 Dec 2006 04:23 GMT
>>> It might surprise you, but I have had a number of cats who actually
>>> enjoyed car trips :-)
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>>
> When I have a party to go to I take my cat so he can drive me home

Wouldn't work with this one...She gets into the nip too much.......
Glenn (Christian Mystic) - 19 Dec 2006 18:32 GMT
>>> It might surprise you, but I have had a number of cats who actually
>>> enjoyed car trips :-)
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>>
> When I have a party to go to I take my cat so he can drive me home

Must be a very big cat :-)
Glenn (Christian Mystic) - 19 Dec 2006 18:31 GMT
>> It might surprise you, but I have had a number of cats who actually
>> enjoyed car trips :-)
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> to sleep in our car in the garage, and if we don't look carefully, we will
> end up taking her with us when we drive somewhere.

She clearly likes cars !
ChristyLynn - 19 Dec 2006 02:49 GMT
I drove 375 miles (6 hours) with 7 cats in a two car trip.  A couple smaller
ones were in large carriers with shoebox as litter box, and the two larger
boys were in a large dog cage, the other three were in another large dog
cage in the back of my mom's truck.  All made it fine.  I wouldn't have felt
good about putting them through a longer ride than this though.
Leanne - 19 Dec 2006 03:13 GMT
>I drove 375 miles (6 hours) with 7 cats in a two car trip.  A couple
>smaller ones were in large carriers with shoebox as litter box, and the two
>larger boys were in a large dog cage, the other three were in another large
>dog cage in the back of my mom's truck.  All made it fine.  I wouldn't have
>felt good about putting them through a longer ride than this though.

Our cat travels with us in the motorhome. As soon as the engine starts, she
goes under a chair and stays until we stop. She does not like night driving
and will come up in my seat and meow, like saying, park this thing as it is
time to eat and sleep. After a month or so on the road you can tell that she
wants to go home by the way she acts. I guess it is like cabin fever.

Leanne
William Graham - 19 Dec 2006 04:24 GMT
>>I drove 375 miles (6 hours) with 7 cats in a two car trip.  A couple
>>smaller ones were in large carriers with shoebox as litter box, and the
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>
> Leanne

Smart cat....I want to go home after a day or two in a motor home.......
Matthew - 19 Sep 2006 18:51 GMT
"Professor" <vze3vvj2@verizon.net>

< snipped for being just stupid>

At it again I see you never learn
wester@laway.net - 19 Sep 2006 15:53 GMT
>I mentioned a couple of months ago that I would be moving from FL to
>UT. Well today is the day! My two cats will be in car carriers for the
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>have enough time to get any type of sedative but I still think they
>will be okay. I'll let you know how it goes.

Good luck, Todd! Go safely, and keep us in the loop.

~Foo
BT1971 - 19 Sep 2006 18:48 GMT
>>Actually, cats are more like Democrats.  They want everything
>>and do nothing to earn it, while complaining all the time.

Cats like hunting birds, they are like Republicans, only with better aim.
No One You Know - 19 Sep 2006 19:11 GMT
Did you hear who Ted Kennedy's new driver is?

Jacques Cousteau
BT1971 - 19 Sep 2006 19:20 GMT
>Did you hear who Ted Kennedy's new driver is?
>
>Jacques Cousteau

LMAO
No One You Know - 19 Sep 2006 20:49 GMT
>>Did you hear who Ted Kennedy's new driver is?
>>
>>Jacques Cousteau
>
> LMAO

"If you slept with my husband, the least you can do
is vote for me."   - - -  Hillary Clinton
todd@copelandhome.net - 20 Sep 2006 04:00 GMT
Well, the larger male cat actually gets into the car carrier while it's
in the house. That is not to say that he likes to be stuck in it for
hours. But he did _very_ well. He only meowed slightly a few times
(mainly as the other car was meowing). He must not have gone to the
bathroom in the morning as he went after about an hour in he car. After
he went, he scraped the bottom on the carrier in an effort to bury it.
He then meowed several times. I pulled over and took him out. He was
very calm. I handed him to my friend who held him while I quickly
cleaned out the carrier. Took all of 30 seconds.

The small female cat was a different story. She was not going into that
carrier for anything! She got away from me a couple of times and I had
to grab her quickly before she got away in the house. She actually
hissed at me a few times. She was not happy _at all_. She meowed for
about an hour and then stopped. She was laying down and closed her eyes
after while but never put her head down. After several hours I saw that
her head was leaning against the wire door though.

I brought them both into the hotel room and they were actually very
good. The large cat, Kitty, walked around to check everything out. He's
always been very calm and courious. I thought the little one would make
a Bee Line for under the bed. She did but then she actually came out
and is walking around the room. I'm really surprised! I'm guessing
after being cooped up so long that she is more interested in moving
about.

I'm just hoping that in the morning I can get the little one and put
her in the carrier. This time I'm going to tilt it upward and lower her
into it. Should be much better then sticking her head in. As long as I
can get her in the carrier, I think she will do just fine. She was an
outdoor cat and is just not use to being confined. But with exposure to
new things, she handles them well.
wester@laway.net - 20 Sep 2006 04:41 GMT
>Well, the larger male cat actually gets into the car carrier while it's
>in the house. That is not to say that he likes to be stuck in it for
[quoted text clipped - 28 lines]
>outdoor cat and is just not use to being confined. But with exposure to
>new things, she handles them well.

Sounds like you're doing good so far.

I'm an advocate of setting the carrier on end with the gate toward me
and putting them head-first into the box. At least you can hold the
front paws together. Not a pleasant experience on either side, but
it's easier for both of us.

Hang in there, Todd, it's only a coupla more days. You all will make
it safely!

Regards,

~Foo
tension_on_the_wire - 20 Sep 2006 06:01 GMT
> I brought them both into the hotel room and they were actually very
> good. The large cat, Kitty, walked around to check everything out. He's
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> outdoor cat and is just not use to being confined. But with exposure to
> new things, she handles them well.

Good luck with that.  My Zildjian (RB) and Luthien were awesome Road
Warriors, and have travelled with me across the North American
continent twice in a car.  The first time we took the scenic route from
LA up to Vancouver and then east across the Rocky Mountains and didn't
stop until Toronto.  It took eleven days, and they were amazing.  I
almost lost them twice, though...long stories both...but to make it
short and sweet, the second time was in the motel room on account of a
maid who came in and opened the windows, I think while I was at
breakfast.  It took me a couple of hours to find the cats, but clearly
the mothership was sending telemetry (to me, not the cats) and so I
found them hiding behind various radiators in the building.  The first
time, Zildjian went missing up in the pass across the Rockies, and that
was a close one...but again the mothership beamed in and I went
straight to her...it will blow minds if I take the time to tell that
whole story, because by rights, the odds were at least a thousand to
one against my ever seeing her again up there.  We also met a moose,
eh?

A weird thing happened on the second trip which was back down to LA
again.  This time in five days, direct route across Nebraska/Wyoming.
We had been gone from LA for three years, living up in London,
Canada....and when we moved back down to LA (Hollywood), it just so
happened that I managed to get an apartment on the same street as
before....and on the morning of arrival, as we cruised in off the
desert, Zildjian and Luthien (who were both born in Los Angeles)
started sniffing and climbing (by this time safe to roam the back seat
as they were calm, cool and collected) and by the time we came into
Hollywood, they were both getting generally excited, and I swear, when
we turned onto the same old street....they got positively squirrelly
trying to climb out the window which was sealed tight shut, but
nonetheless, they had their little noses right at the top seal of the
window, trying to push them through by sheer willpower.  I swear their
homing beacon was flashing at 60 Hz or something at this point because
they started talking like Siamese cats and clearly knew that they were
home!  Weirdest thing.

--tension
todd@copelandhome.net - 21 Sep 2006 05:14 GMT
Well, the smaller cat, Shadow, found a tear in the fabric at the base
of the box spring so she was hiding in there. We had to remove the
matress and tilt the box spring to get her out. She ran into the
bathroom. I picked her up and petted her for a moment. She was calm. I
just gently lowered her into the carrier and she was fine.

Both cats made the next 10 hour ride just fine. I was really surprised.
They did not go to the bathroom once. The larger male cat laid down and
slept most of the time. Shadow would lay down on all four legs but she
never rested her head on the ground. She would lean against the side of
the carrier and had her eyes closed most of the time. I think it's a
"zen" thing. :)

As I mentioned, both did _VERY_ well. They are in the hotel room for
the second night and LOVE to check out the whole area. I'm surprised
that Shadow is doing this as well as she usually hides at my house.
Over-all I think this trip is helping them socialize much better.
Andrea - 22 Sep 2006 00:23 GMT
It probably is!  And when once they finally get settled in a quiet,
unchanging place at their final destination I bet they will sleep like rocks
for a good long time.  Sounds like neither of them are fully resting, but at
least they are coping.  Soooon....

> Well, the smaller cat, Shadow, found a tear in the fabric at the base
> of the box spring so she was hiding in there. We had to remove the
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> that Shadow is doing this as well as she usually hides at my house.
> Over-all I think this trip is helping them socialize much better.
wester@laway.net - 22 Sep 2006 00:33 GMT
>Well, the smaller cat, Shadow, found a tear in the fabric at the base
>of the box spring so she was hiding in there. We had to remove the
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>that Shadow is doing this as well as she usually hides at my house.
>Over-all I think this trip is helping them socialize much better.

This is very good news. They both seem to be accepting the fact they
will be occupying new territory, but with person(s) they prefer.

Keep on going! When you reach your destination safely, we will all
cheer!
Andrea - 22 Sep 2006 02:00 GMT
I was thinking about their reduced water intake and output + stress.  Just
thought I would throw something out there, although I'm sure you've already
considered it yourself.....

When you do get to your destination, you might keep an extra watchful eye to
make sure no one develops a cystitis spurred by a stressful couple of days.
We have seen it a number of times.  If they were already susceptible, a few
days of their world being turned upside down could potentially bring on a
clinical cystitis.  Probably not, but keep an eye out!

> Well, the smaller cat, Shadow, found a tear in the fabric at the base
> of the box spring so she was hiding in there. We had to remove the
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> that Shadow is doing this as well as she usually hides at my house.
> Over-all I think this trip is helping them socialize much better.
 
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