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Christina Szeman - 05 Sep 2006 06:15 GMT
BlankHello Everyone,

When I first got my cat, she was 7 weeks old. The original owner said that
the three white kittens were female and one black kitten was male. We got
one of the female ones.

Now my kitten is 5 months old. I just saw something strange last week when
she was cleaning. Something popped out of, I think it was her vagina or
belly that was the color of her skin: Pink. That was the first time that I
have seen it. My parents thought that she was a boy. I didn't think so,
because so far, She hasn't sprayed anything and I did see that she was
sitting down when she was peeing.

I did have male cat years ago that showed his penis everytime that he
washed.

Now, I will confirm this with the vet when I see her next (And if I get a
job soon too). All I am asking, is this normal for a female kitten? My
mother said that it could be her bellybutton.

I just want to make sure that I haven't been seeing things.

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The Polish-Kraut - 05 Sep 2006 14:01 GMT
>Something popped out of, I think it was her vagina or
>belly that was the color of her skin: Pink.

Vagina or belly ??  Vagina is under it tail and belly is under it so
which is it??  

From http://www.pets-opedia.com/cats/ctanro01.html

Reproductive Organs:

A male cat has two testicles close to it's anus and tightly wrapped in
it's scrotum. It's penis is behind the scrotum and points backwards
and it is normally tucked inside the cat's body.
Hannibal - 05 Sep 2006 17:28 GMT
> >Something popped out of, I think it was her vagina or
> >belly that was the color of her skin: Pink.
> >
> Vagina or belly ??  Vagina is under it tail and belly is under it so
> which is it??

Great, next this genius of anatomy will tell us they tried tasting the
area to figure out its function.
Christina Szeman - 06 Sep 2006 02:34 GMT
I don't know if it is a vagina or belly. I was looking at it from above when
she was lying right next to me.

Christina

>>Something popped out of, I think it was her vagina or
>>belly that was the color of her skin: Pink.
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> it's scrotum. It's penis is behind the scrotum and points backwards
> and it is normally tucked inside the cat's body.
tension_on_the_wire - 07 Sep 2006 05:57 GMT
> >Something popped out of, I think it was her vagina or
> >belly that was the color of her skin: Pink.
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> it's scrotum. It's penis is behind the scrotum and points backwards
> and it is normally tucked inside the cat's body.

If you are not one hundred percent sure, take your cat to the vet to
find out the gender.  Not all males spray at the same age or same
provocation.  Female spraying is just urine, I think, but male spraying
is very very unmistakable as a smell.  Regardless, check, because if it
is a male, it is normal for the penis to show when self-grooming,
sometimes, but if it is a female it could be a problem.  I don't know
if cats can get it, but I know humans and other animals can have things
like prolapsed uterus, and it can be risky for infection and worse so
do check.

----tension
Christina Szeman - 08 Sep 2006 01:48 GMT
tension,

Thank you for you input. I will go to the vet next month when my cat will be
spayed, just to find out.

Sincerely,
Christina Szeman

>> >Something popped out of, I think it was her vagina or
>> >belly that was the color of her skin: Pink.
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>
> ----tension
David Martel - 08 Sep 2006 02:46 GMT
Christina,

  If your vet has scheduled a spaying then your kitten is female. The
uterus and ovaries will be removed.

Dave M.
Barnabas Collins - 05 Sep 2006 19:18 GMT
>Now my kitten is 5 months old. I just saw something strange last week when
>she was cleaning. Something popped out of, I think it was her vagina or
>belly that was the color of her skin: Pink. That was the first time that I
>have seen it. My parents thought that she was a boy. I didn't think so,
>because so far, She hasn't sprayed anything and I did see that she was
>sitting down when she was peeing.
It should be pointed out that a female cat can and does spray.

My 18 year old female calico is spraying, and she was
fixed  alot of years ago.
sloopy - 23 Sep 2006 03:57 GMT
>>Now my kitten is 5 months old. I just saw something strange last week when
>>she was cleaning. Something popped out of, I think it was her vagina or
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> My 18 year old female calico is spraying, and she was
> fixed  alot of years ago.

I don't know enough about cats to say that spayed female cats don't
spray, but I can say with absolute certainty that mine does not.
Barnabas Collins - 23 Sep 2006 20:58 GMT
>>>Now my kitten is 5 months old. I just saw something strange last week when
>>>she was cleaning. Something popped out of, I think it was her vagina or
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>I don't know enough about cats to say that spayed female cats don't
>spray, but I can say with absolute certainty that mine does not.

Let me put it this way: my female is spraying and she was spayed alot
of years ago.  (Probably about 16 years ago.)
Toadvine - 06 Sep 2006 05:33 GMT
The cat is male.  Does he have a large square head that seems to have a
beard?

> BlankHello Everyone,
>
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>
> I just want to make sure that I haven't been seeing things.
Christina Szeman - 06 Sep 2006 06:38 GMT
My cat doesn't have a square head or a beard. Was that a joke?

Christina

> The cat is male.  Does he have a large square head that seems to have a
> beard?
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>>
>> I just want to make sure that I haven't been seeing things.
The Polish-Kraut - 06 Sep 2006 13:52 GMT
What do you think ?!!?!?  How many cats have you seen with square
heads and beards lately ?!?!?!?

>My cat doesn't have a square head or a beard. Was that a joke?
>
>Christina

>> The cat is male.  Does he have a large square head that seems to have a
>> beard?

>>> When I first got my cat, she was 7 weeks old. The original owner said
>>> that the three white kittens were female and one black kitten was male.
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>>>
>>> I just want to make sure that I haven't been seeing things.
Christina Szeman - 07 Sep 2006 00:19 GMT
Not very many.

Christina

> What do you think ?!!?!?  How many cats have you seen with square
> heads and beards lately ?!?!?!?
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>>>>
>>>> I just want to make sure that I haven't been seeing things.
darth_breather@yahoo.com - 08 Sep 2006 07:07 GMT
only happens if a male cat isnt netered until its a few yrs old

> What do you think ?!!?!?  How many cats have you seen with square
> heads and beards lately ?!?!?!?
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> >> The cat is male.  Does he have a large square head that seems to have a
> >> beard?
Toadvine - 18 Sep 2006 23:53 GMT
Not in the case of all four of my male cats, who were all neutered
before reaching the age of 6 months.  All have square heads, apparent
beards and a generally masculine appearance.  By contrast female cats
will have more triangular heads and will lack the puffed-out hair around
the jawline and above the neck.

> only happens if a male cat isnt netered until its a few yrs old
>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>>>>The cat is male.  Does he have a large square head that seems to have a
>>>>beard?
~*Connie*~ - 09 Sep 2006 00:00 GMT
to distinguish between boy and girl kitties, look at the anus.  You'll see
the other opening for either the penis or the vulva.  If there is fur
between the two openings, then you have a boy.  No fur? Girl.  As they get
older, the testicles will descend, and you will have more fur and bumps.

If you saw something pop out, I would assume that its a boy.  Not all males
will clean their actual penis every time.  I have five male cats, and none
of them do it in front of me. I had a previous male that would do it in
front of me all the time.

> BlankHello Everyone,
>
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>
> I just want to make sure that I haven't been seeing things.
Andrea - 16 Sep 2006 19:06 GMT
Hello Christina,

I am sorry that some people have been rude to you!
Others, however, have been kind and helpful... I prefer to be part of THAT
club.

You've already gotten some answers so I won't repeat everything, but I do
want to say something about spraying:

Spraying is not an indicator of the sex of a cat, and even if it were, it is
highly unusual for it to begin before a cat reaches adulthood.  Further,
spraying is a marking behavior or an expression of frustration.  When simply
emptying the bladder, BOTH male and female cats assume the same posture.
They both squat to pee.

ALL cats have the potential to spray (male, female, intact or not).  It
seems to be more common for males, but not exclusive to males.  But again,
it usually begins in adulthood.

As far as what you actually saw when your cat was grooming, I think that it
is too hard for us on the board to understand exactly what you saw because
we're having some anatomical language problems understanding you :-)  But
don't panic, I bet your cat is fine and when you get to the vet's office
next month you can directly point to where you saw this pink thing.  At that
time, during surgical checkin, the vet or technician will clear things up
for you and it probably won't even charge you anything extra.

I will also say that it is highly unlikely that you saw the kittens belly
button :-)

> BlankHello Everyone,
>
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>
> I just want to make sure that I haven't been seeing things.
Barnabas Collins - 16 Sep 2006 19:28 GMT
>ALL cats have the potential to spray (male, female, intact or not).  It
>seems to be more common for males, but not exclusive to males.  But again,
>it usually begins in adulthood.
Yes, I have an 18 year old female Calico who is now spraying.   Have
no clue why.

>> When I first got my cat, she was 7 weeks old. The original owner said that
>> the three white kittens were female and one black kitten was male. We got
>> one of the female ones.
Take this stuff with a huge grain of salt.   My neice got a kitten a
number of years ago.  She was convinced it was a female.   The vet had
to break the news to her that it was male.
tension_on_the_wire - 16 Sep 2006 23:45 GMT
> Take this stuff with a huge grain of salt.   My neice got a kitten a
> number of years ago.  She was convinced it was a female.   The vet had
> to break the news to her that it was male.

I cannot tell you the number of cats I have heard of who have male
names, with a Mrs. in the front on account of their sudden predilection
for having kittens!  It seems they were under the misconception that
the cat was male until the point where it got pregnant!

Mind you, I remember also reading about a cat named Elizabeth who had
to subsequently be renamed Uncle Elizabeth, heh.

--tension
Wayne Boatwright - 16 Sep 2006 23:53 GMT
Oh pshaw, on Sat 16 Sep 2006 03:45:14p, tension_on_the_wire meant to say...

>> Take this stuff with a huge grain of salt.   My neice got a kitten a
>> number of years ago.  She was convinced it was a female.   The vet had
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> Mind you, I remember also reading about a cat named Elizabeth who had
> to subsequently be renamed Uncle Elizabeth, heh.

Oh, that was from I Remember Mama, wasn't it?  The cat was injured and the
father tried to euthanize it with ether, but the ether just put the cat to
sleep long enough for it to recuperate.  Or maybe I'm wrong.

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tension_on_the_wire - 17 Sep 2006 00:39 GMT
> Oh pshaw, on Sat 16 Sep 2006 03:45:14p, tension_on_the_wire meant to say...
>
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> father tried to euthanize it with ether, but the ether just put the cat to
> sleep long enough for it to recuperate.  Or maybe I'm wrong.

I do not honestly remember where I read it now.  But I do remember an
Anne of Green Gables book (Anne of the Island, I think) where that
failed euthanization took place.  There was a small hole in the box,
and the chloroform leaked out, and after all that the cat went through,
they would no longer hear of anything else being done to him and so he
became a beloved, though raggedy and supremely ugly, idol of the
household.

--tension

p.s. I cannot imagine an ugly cat.  Seems like an oxymoron to me.
Wayne Boatwright - 17 Sep 2006 07:32 GMT
Oh pshaw, on Sat 16 Sep 2006 04:39:54p, tension_on_the_wire meant to
say...

>> Oh pshaw, on Sat 16 Sep 2006 03:45:14p, tension_on_the_wire meant to
>> say...
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>
> p.s. I cannot imagine an ugly cat.  Seems like an oxymoron to me.

There are *no* ugly cats! <g>

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Barnabas Collins - 17 Sep 2006 17:28 GMT
>Is it ok to use my AM radio after NOON?        
You do reakize AM stands for Amplitute Modulation and has nothing
at all to do with time?

It's the type of signal having zip to do with time.

Maybe you should pick a book on radio some time.
Andrea - 17 Sep 2006 22:30 GMT
Hey Barnabus, where is your sense of humor!?  I thought it was funny :-)

>>Is it ok to use my AM radio after NOON?
> You do reakize AM stands for Amplitute Modulation and has nothing
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Barnabas Collins - 18 Sep 2006 14:32 GMT
>Hey Barnabus, where is your sense of humor!?  I thought it was funny :-)
Let me put it this way: as someone who is an engineer, has worked in
radio for years, i don't find it funny.   To me as it makes you sound
real stupid, someone who knows zip about radio.

I know it is an attempt at humor, at very bad ignorant attmept at
that.
Wayne Boatwright - 18 Sep 2006 19:50 GMT
Oh pshaw, on Mon 18 Sep 2006 06:32:19a, Barnabas Collins meant to say...

>>Hey Barnabus, where is your sense of humor!?  I thought it was funny :-)
> Let me put it this way: as someone who is an engineer, has worked in
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> I know it is an attempt at humor, at very bad ignorant attmept at
> that.

You're really getting crochety in your old age, aren't you?

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Wayne Boatwright - 18 Sep 2006 00:58 GMT
Oh pshaw, on Sun 17 Sep 2006 09:28:32a, Barnabas Collins meant to say...

>>Is it ok to use my AM radio after NOON?        
> You do reakize AM stands for Amplitute Modulation and has nothing
> at all to do with time?

Yes, I do.  And FM stands for Frequency Modulation, which has nothing at
all to do with "Fuckin' Magic".

> It's the type of signal having zip to do with time.

You've already said that.

> Maybe you should pick a book on radio some time.

I doubt I need it.  I used to build radios as a hobby.

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Elizabeth - 24 Sep 2006 02:46 GMT
>BlankHello Everyone,
>
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>
>I just want to make sure that I haven't been seeing things.

well whatever it was... i'm going to take a wild guess and say it definitely
wasn't a belly button. i'm in your same situation. the next time we take her
to the vet is when i get a job. lol ; )
 
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