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Bravo Two Zero - 28 Aug 2006 04:29 GMT
We recently moved into a house in the Southwest and over the last couple
of weeks we have found some scorpions in the house.

Now, we have heard so many different points of views regarding scorpions
and cats.

Someone told us that if you had a cat ( we have 2 ) that you would never
see a scorpion.  Various reasons include "cats eat Scorpions !!" which
was news to me.

We are obvious certained about scorpion attacking a cat.
Matthew - 28 Aug 2006 04:44 GMT
> We recently moved into a house in the Southwest and over the last couple
> of weeks we have found some scorpions in the house.
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> We are obvious certained about scorpion attacking a cat.

Lets see  stinger injects poison   cats  play with anything that moves  cats
gets stung by  scorpion  depending on what type of scorpion and size  cat
dies from sting  Keep cat away from scorpions  very dangerous.  Tell your
friend  that does not think that this happens to wake up and welcome to he
real world

http://www.aspca.org/site/PageServer?pagename=pro_apcc_poisonsafe
Warm Weather Hazards
Animal toxins-toads, insects, spiders, snakes and scorpions
Matthew - 28 Aug 2006 04:50 GMT
Did not mean to sound condescending if it was taken that way.  But I have
seen  one of those big black buggers sting an dog on the nose and the dog
died badly when the antitoxin did not take effect in time.

Something for you to look at   even the smallest scorpion can kill  there is
a variety nick named " the Arizona boot taper for a reason" it is small to
fit in a boo but can kill a man with one sting
http://www.angelfire.com/tx4/scorpiones/index.html

>> We recently moved into a house in the Southwest and over the last couple
>> of weeks we have found some scorpions in the house.
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> Warm Weather Hazards
> Animal toxins-toads, insects, spiders, snakes and scorpions
Bravo Two Zero - 28 Aug 2006 05:40 GMT
condescending  - not taken that way.

Thanks for that link, excellent information

> Did not mean to sound condescending if it was taken that way.  But I have
> seen  one of those big black buggers sting an dog on the nose and the dog
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>>Warm Weather Hazards
>>Animal toxins-toads, insects, spiders, snakes and scorpions
Bravo Two Zero - 28 Aug 2006 05:42 GMT
>>and at least the Arizona bark scorpion has been confirmed for causing
deaths, though not in many years. Cats are presumably immune to their
venoms, but dogs may be sensitive.

Interesting !!

> Did not mean to sound condescending if it was taken that way.  But I have
> seen  one of those big black buggers sting an dog on the nose and the dog
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>>Warm Weather Hazards
>>Animal toxins-toads, insects, spiders, snakes and scorpions
barking pumpkin - 28 Aug 2006 06:00 GMT
> Did not mean to sound condescending if it was taken that way.  But I have
> seen  one of those big black buggers sting an dog on the nose and the dog
> died badly when the antitoxin did not take effect in time.
>
> Something for you to look at   even the smallest scorpion can kill

Actually, the bark scorpion is one of (if not the) smallest species
found in Arizona.  It's also the deadliest.
barking pumpkin - 28 Aug 2006 05:23 GMT
> We recently moved into a house in the Southwest and over the last couple
> of weeks we have found some scorpions in the house.
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>
> We are obvious certained about scorpion attacking a cat.

I wish I could offer some advice, but I can't, other than most scorpions
(speaking as a former Arizona resident) aren't any more harmful than a
bee sting).

It's the bark scorpions that are really harmful - they're small and can
climb (other scorpions usually confine themselves to the ground).
They're threatening to humans, so I suspect that they would be lethal to
cats.

To wander off the specifics of scorpions a bit, I've known a couple of
dogs (a boxer and a rotweiller) who were both killed by rattlesnakes,
anecdotally, I've heard from others who said their dogs routinely killed
snakes (including rattlers) and even when bitten would get over it after
a few days.

Why is that relevant?  Perhaps it's not, but much like one of these
people who told me of their dogs killing rattlesnakes, he said he too
was accustomed to grabbing them by the back of their neck and disposing
of them - hopefully your cat can do the same for scorpions.

Myself, I wouldn't touch a rattlesnake with a 10-foot pole, but then
again I don't have the reflexes of a cat or even a dog.

The last time I encountered a rattlesnake both me and the snake were
startled and jumped backwards.  Neither of us was interested in messing
with the other.

Cats may not be as cautious or willing to steer clear of such things,
but they are quite adept at dealing with small prey.
oldhickory - 29 Aug 2006 05:28 GMT
I have no idea if cats are susceptible to  bark scorps but we have them in
our new house and I've been freaking out.  I'm deathly allergic to fire ants
so we assume I'll be the same with scorpions.  The little buggers can get in
through anything--I caught one shimming past the rubber weather strip around
our back door one night.  One of our cats was "pointing" to it.  Our three
girls have been very good about "pointing" but either keep their paws far
enough away to keep from getting stung or they don't react--I don't know
which.  I have found them, several times, just watching ones that they have
"cornered" between them, or sitting patiently watching one, like they're
pointing for me. We praise them profusely!

I was hesitant about having the house treated because of the girls, and
because I have heard that scorpions are hard to kill and it's a waste of
money but we finally had them treat almost a month ago--I just couldn't take
it anymore.  They poured boric acid in the outside outlets, bombed the attic
with it, also, and did a peripheral treatment around the house.  They
re-filled all of our weep holes with copper mesh (I think my husband had
used steel wool) We kept the girls in for a few days (not easy as they love
their kitty secured back yard with vinyl fences--can't get their claws in to
get up and over) as a precaution.  I still don't get up without putting my
sandals on at night and they still walk perimeter (inside the house) at
night, but we have only seen ONE in 3.5 weeks.  Before we had the treatment
done it was more than one a night.....eww.....

It's taken care of the spiders and harvestmen (aka Daddy longlegs) and such
around the house.  I hate to kill off all the bugs but the scorps and the
black widows (did I mention we had those, too?) were more than I could
handle, and the other bugs are great bait to attract them.  Maybe when they
quit building in our neighborhood (hill country, just outside of Austin, TX)
it will let up.  I've heard other new subdivisions around us have had the
same problems until the construction was done.  We'll see....it's going to
be a couple of years anyway...

So, bottom line, I'd advise doing what you can to control the
critters...I've got some other links I'll paste below about battling
scorpions that might be of assistance....oh, and a herpetologist friend of
mine said the way to tell if they are poisonous is: if they have big
pinchers they are meant to scare and are not very poisonous.  The smaller
the pinchers, the bigger the poison.

good luck!
http://www.getipm.com/thebestcontrol/bugstop/control_scorpions.htm

http://insects.tamu.edu/extension/bulletins/l-1678.html

http://environmentsensitive.com/DiatomaceousEarth.htm

http://www.epestsupply.com/scorpions.htm

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>> We recently moved into a house in the Southwest and over the last couple
>> of weeks we have found some scorpions in the house.
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> Cats may not be as cautious or willing to steer clear of such things, but
> they are quite adept at dealing with small prey.
 
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