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Cat Forum / General Topics / August 2006Kittens Thrown in Frying Pan in N.Y.
BUFFALO, N.Y. (AP) -- Five kittens thrown into a frying pan with pork chops and hot oil were recovering at an animal shelter Monday, and the man accused of scalding them was awaiting a court appearance. <SNIP> Below is the URL for the full AP story about the above!!  Signature***************************************************** E-mail address altered to foil spam. Reply to news groups for all to see please. ***************************************************** >BUFFALO, N.Y. (AP) -- Five kittens thrown into a frying pan with pork chops >and hot oil were recovering at an animal shelter Monday, and the man accused [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >Below is the URL for the full AP story about the above!! Sorry - forgot the URL http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/B/BRF_KITTENS_SCALDED?SITE=ILMOL&SECTION=HO ME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT >>BUFFALO, N.Y. (AP) -- Five kittens thrown into a frying pan with pork chops >>and hot oil were recovering at an animal shelter Monday, and the man accused [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/B/BRF_KITTENS_SCALDED?SITE=ILMOL&SECTION=HO ME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT After hearing of this, everyone should support the death penalty - only it should be carried out in a very large frying pan. |||| BUFFALO, N.Y. (AP) -- Five kittens thrown into a frying pan with |||| pork chops and hot oil were recovering at an animal shelter [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] ||| ||| Sorry - forgot the URL http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/B/BRF_KITTENS_SCALDED?SITE=ILMOL&SECTION=HO ME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT || After hearing of this, everyone should support the death penalty - || only it should be carried out in a very large frying pan. I have long held the view that a person who commits evil acts against animals would be capable of the same cruelty towards humans. I would fry the bastard and I don't mean in "old sparky". Signature"A horse a horse my kingdom for a horse, I haven't had a winner in six months". MD >I have long held the view that a person who commits evil acts against >animals would be capable of the same cruelty towards humans. I would fry >the bastard and I don't mean in "old sparky". Many a serial killer honed their skills with the killiing of animals. The perp should get the death penalty but it won't happen in my lifetime. The perp will be lucky to get jail time, and even that isn't a guarantee. In some jurisdictions the perp will get no jail time. (After all in the eyes of the law the animal is property. This slowly changing but the change is very slow in coming.) >>BUFFALO, N.Y. (AP) -- Five kittens thrown into a frying pan with pork chops >>and hot oil were recovering at an animal shelter Monday, and the man accused [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/B/BRF_KITTENS_SCALDED?SITE=ILMOL&SECTION=HO ME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT I was reading a number of accounts of this story, apparently it occurred on Monday, he was to be araigned on Tuesday. Today is Friday. No details on the dispensation of the case. One thing I gathered from the accounts is the fryer is a homeless man, the apartment thenant took him in when they encountered each other at the local bus stop. I keep seeing the quote that this was the worst animal abuse they had seen. Where this guy is homeless could he have been blind/so high on drugs/alchohol/so hungry/dehydrated that he had no clue what he was picking up/doing? I could easily see this person going to a mental hospital/ homeless shelter and avoiding any charges. The more I read about it the more it sounds like the perp didn't know or comprehend what he was doing. Being homeless/hungry/ dehydrated for the last month will do stuff like that to you. If it was animal abuse i'd be the first one to scream throw the guy in jail but i'm not convinced yet that it was animal abuse. Today is Friday, he was araigned Tuesday. I find it odd there are no reports of how the araignment went. Maybe at araignment he was sent over for 10/30 days observation at the local mental health facility? People who commit such horrible acts against innocent animals deserve FAR worse than our joke of a legal system gives them. Animal abusers are lower than pedophiles, they commit acts against victims more innocent than children. The same applys to a.sholes who work in slaughter houses and factory farms If someone ever did something to my pets, that someone would very easily wind up in the hospital. What ever legal repercussions that happen to me are irrelevant. http://www.pet-abuse.com/ This is an excellent site that will give you the latest news regarding animal abuse cases around the US and abroad. > >>BUFFALO, N.Y. (AP) -- Five kittens thrown into a frying pan with pork chops > >>and hot oil were recovering at an animal shelter Monday, and the man accused [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] > http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups > ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- >People who commit such horrible acts against innocent animals deserve >FAR worse than our joke of a legal system gives them. Animal abusers >are lower than pedophiles, they commit acts against victims more >innocent than children. But the more I read about this case the more it xcreams out something is missing. Like maybe he is mentally challenged, blind, etc.? I'm not ready to say it is animal abuse. The actions aren't consitant with animal abuse. >http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/B/BRF_KITTENS_SCALDED?SITE=ILMOL&SECTION=HO ME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT "The (visitor) started taking his clothes off, took two kittens, put them in the frying pan with the hot oil and pork chops and began swishing them around," said Charles Loubert Sr., an animal control officer. "Then he threw one kitten on the floor and he took the other one and wiped it off on the wall. Then he put three more kittens into the frying pan." And animal abuse case I would expect would have meant the kittens would have remained in the frying pan and sustained burns. The idea that he too the kittens out tells me maybe he is blind and sensed something was wrong? I don't like animal abuse but something in this isn't adding up. Maybe while he was cooking he thought rats had gotten into his frying pan? Maybe he didn't know they were kittens? > "The (visitor) started taking his clothes off, took two kittens, put > them in the frying pan with the hot oil and pork chops and began [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - > Total Privacy via Encryption =---- Luckily they kittens did not suffer serious harm. That is first in my concerns. I also agree this person sounds disturbed and not fully aware of what was going on. For those not willing to forestall their judgment, there are lot of sick people living on the streets as homeless people. Some can't get help and some just wont. When you tell me you love animals and don't have a spark of compassion left for humans in bad straights don't expect me to be impressed. Andy >Luckily they kittens did not suffer serious harm. That is first in my >concerns. I also agree this person sounds disturbed and not fully aware of [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >Andy I hope you're not impressed, Andy. You're an a.shole. No serious harm? Let's do the same to ya. See how ya like it. a.shole. >>Luckily they kittens did not suffer serious harm. That is first in my >>concerns. I also agree this person sounds disturbed and not fully [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > I hope you're not impressed, Andy. You're an a.shole. No serious harm? > Let's do the same to ya. See how ya like it. a.shole. Poor reading skills eh? And so well spoken. You need a bit more growth and maturity. Read the article before you open your mouth. >Luckily they kittens did not suffer serious harm. That is first in my >concerns. I also agree this person sounds disturbed and not fully aware of [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >and don't have a spark of compassion left for humans in bad straights don't >expect me to be impressed. I would point out some of the homeless today are mental patients who should have stayed in a mental hospital but in the inifinite wisdom of the goverment were just dumped out on the street to fend for themselves. I'd also add a percentage of the homeless are veterans who the country abandoned after the war ended. Another percentage are families with kids, mom and dad work full time and they are still homeless. >>Luckily they kittens did not suffer serious harm. That is first in my >>concerns. I also agree this person sounds disturbed and not fully aware of [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >>and don't have a spark of compassion left for humans in bad straights don't >>expect me to be impressed. >I would point out some of the homeless today are mental >patients who should have stayed in a mental hospital [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >Another percentage are families with kids, mom and dad >work full time and they are still homeless. How did we get from the original post of "Kittens Thrown in Frying Pan in N.Y." to homelessness ???? Maybe you should change the subject line or find a group about homeless persons. >>>Luckily they kittens did not suffer serious harm. That is first in >>>my concerns. I also agree this person sounds disturbed and not fully [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > How did we get from the original post of "Kittens Thrown in Frying Pan > in N.Y." to homelessness ???? Man fry's kittens -> maybe man is homeless mental case -> homeless people. Seemed pretty easy to follow to me. > Maybe you should change the subject line or find a group about > homeless persons. maybe. >How did we get from the original post of "Kittens Thrown in Frying Pan >in N.Y." to homelessness ???? Because I brought up the idea. I read the original news reports, I'm wondering if rather than a straight animal abuse case if this isn't really a case of a homeless/bline man who really needs proper care and for whatever reason was tossed out on the street years ago? >Maybe you should change the subject line or find a group about >homeless persons. Maybe we need more facts before we condemn this guy as an animal abuser? I don't like animal abusers but i'm also not ready to throw this guy in jail when maybe his only crime was being homeless/hungry/dehydrated/blind. In the US we have this old fashioned concept of your INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY. >People who commit such horrible acts against innocent animals deserve >FAR worse than our joke of a legal system gives them. Animal abusers >are lower than pedophiles, they commit acts against victims more >innocent than children. Bear in mind though the legal system in the US of A treats animals as property. You may get a few years in jail but in some jurisdictions you'll get no jail time. It's slowly changing and courts are starting to award damages for emotional distress from the loss of your pet but that is moving along very slowly. As much as I'd like to see animal abusers get the death penalty it will never happne in my lifetime. >If someone ever did something to my pets, that someone would very >easily wind up in the hospital. What ever legal repercussions that >happen to me are irrelevant. And who would take car of your pet if you're in jail for assaulting/kiling an animal abuser? |||| BUFFALO, N.Y. (AP) -- Five kittens thrown into a frying pan with |||| pork chops and hot oil were recovering at an animal shelter [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] ||| ||| Sorry - forgot the URL http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/B/BRF_KITTENS_SCALDED?SITE=ILMOL&SECTION=HO ME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT || I was reading a number of accounts of this story, apparently it || occurred on Monday, he was to be araigned on Tuesday. Today is [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] || in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server || Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- If the guy suffers with a mental illness then it is very likely that he had no control over his actions, terrible thing though for him and the kittens. Signature"A horse a horse my kingdom for a horse, I haven't had a winner in six months". MD > If the guy suffers with a mental illness then it is very likely that he had > no control over his actions, terrible thing though for him and the kittens. A typical excuse. "He must've been mentally ill." Are you a Jew? --Tim May >> If the guy suffers with a mental illness then it is very likely that he >> had [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Are you a Jew? Summary execution is a pretty effective medicine. >A typical excuse. "He must've been mentally ill." Go to the library and read up on metal illeness, homelessness, and how they were handled under budget cuts. >Are you a Jew? And what does that have to do with homelessness? Maybe you should crawl out from under your rock and visit a city that has a homeless population. Not everyone is as rich as you are. > >A typical excuse. "He must've been mentally ill." > Go to the library and read up on metal illeness, homelessness, [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Maybe you should crawl out from under your rock and visit > a city that has a homeless population. I'm sitting here on Pacific Avenue in Santa Cruz, south of San Francisco. I see hundreds of beggars, drifters, negroes, layabouts, "homeless activists" ("Food Not Bombs"), petition-seekers ("Prop 87 would force the oil companies to pay more taxes!"), Rastafarians, crazy people muttering to themselves, a male who wears a pink dress and walks very slowly--all day--under a parasol, Mexican gangbangers in town for tonight's drive-bys, queer activists, bums, winos, and assorted Gen Y kids spending Dad's money. (The parasol guy is approaching....he receives a disability stipend, courtesy of our tax dollars....) Fifty million Americans need to be send up the smokestacks. --Tim May >(The parasol guy is approaching....he receives a disability stipend, >courtesy of our tax dollars....) And you know this how? >I'm sitting here on Pacific Avenue in Santa Cruz, south of San >Francisco. I see hundreds of beggars, drifters, negroes, layabouts, >"homeless activists" I would point out a number of those homeless spent a good number of years fighting to defend your rights in a war and how does this country repay them? We toss them out on the street like garbage. Or we ship their jobs off to Mexico and other countries. >("Food Not Bombs"), petition-seekers ("Prop 87 >would force the oil companies to pay more taxes!"), Here is a radical thought: maybe they should. A number of years ago an oil company alledgedly spilled a thousand gallons of oil in the canal here. Turns out the spill was actually one hundred thousand gallons and the oil company spent exactly zero dollars cleaning it up. And this while the oil companies are making record profits, the CEO or Exxon made $400 million +, and around here alot of people are going to freeze to death in the winter. Oh and lets not forget the CEO of Exxon while making his $400 million will scream bloody murder at raising the miminum wage for the labor at his gas stations. || In article <8hqee2hu4eck5fj5qp9hdjll8d9a28fhrv@4ax.com>, Barnabas || Collins <BarnabasCollinsonSF@gmail.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] || || --Tim May If you don't like it why not chase the "American dream", get a better job and move to a different area, mind I am inclined to agree I was in San Francisco and I thought it was a shithole and that was back in 1990, who knows what it is like now. You should get on to your democratically elected Government and tell them to stop putting the rest of the world right and solve your own countries downfall into a sea of effluent. It would make much more sense than posting on a cats NG for crying out loud, or trying to bait me. I hope the people you mentioned in your reply rob you blind and then sodomise you for being such a simpleton, let me assure you my countries rulers have been around for centuries but we have not got anywhere near the problems you have, San Francisco is not that old in comparison. "The Jews gave the world two of the most influential people of all time, "Jesus Christ" and "Karl Marx" and the Jews took the luxury of following neither one nor the other". Signature"A horse a horse my kingdom for a horse, I haven't had a winner in six months". MD >>Are you a Jew? >And what does that have to do with homelessness? What do either of the above have to do with "Kittens Thrown in Frying Pan in N.Y." huh ?? >>>Are you a Jew? > >>And what does that have to do with homelessness? > > What do either of the above have to do with "Kittens Thrown in Frying > Pan in N.Y." huh ?? Look at the cross post groups and what do you expect alt.flame.cats It has nothing to do with it just another one coming to the newsgroup going OT and political || In article <JCsFg.9669$Z82.4378@newsfe2-win.ntli.net>, Mad Dog || <maddog@hotcar.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] || || --Tim May If you are asking if I am Jewish then no I am not, but please make your point because I can not see where you are coming from with this, you arsewipe. Signature"A horse a horse my kingdom for a horse, I haven't had a winner in six months". MD >If the guy suffers with a mental illness then it is very likely that he had >no control over his actions, terrible thing though for him and the kittens. And chances are if he is mentally ill he was in a hospital until the 80s/90s when he would have been tossed out into the street. Never mind that the illness remained, that he was a danger to himself and to others. > BUFFALO, N.Y. (AP) -- Five kittens thrown into a frying pan with pork chops > and hot oil were recovering at an animal shelter Monday, and the man accused > of scalding them was awaiting a court appearance. I read the story. Thank goodness the kittens were not more seriously injured. The man was obvously suffering from some mental disorder and didn't have any idea as to what he was actually doing. That said, he probably won't be outside roaming around for awhile until his mental disorder is fully addressed. >> BUFFALO, N.Y. (AP) -- Five kittens thrown into a frying pan with pork chops >> and hot oil were recovering at an animal shelter Monday, and the man accused [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >That said, he probably won't be outside roaming around for awhile until >his mental disorder is fully addressed. I was reading the story.....my guess is the perp will never see jail time......not competent to stand trial. I also have several questions: 1. The perp took his clothes off and then threw the kittens in the frying pan. What is up with that? 2. He threw one kiteen on the floor and wiped the other one on the wall. What is up with that? 3. They don't say in the article but was this person mentally challenged/blind? And coudl the person who left the apartment be liable for leaving the kitchen unattended and leaving a blind/mentally challenged individual alone? For me there are too many unsanswered questions. Maybe this person was blind and thought he picked up another pork chop? this is sick. what a bastard. you have to be really low to hurt something so poor and defenseless (sp)... it makes me sick to my stomach. Signaturehttp://i7.tinypic.com/24g0snn.jpg my baby. >this is sick. what a bastard. you have to be really low to hurt something so >poor and defenseless (sp)... it makes me sick to my stomach. And the more I read up on the case the more it points to someone who is homeless/blind/etc. a) awww, the pork chops are ruined. b) kitty can't fry with all that fir still on. > > BUFFALO, N.Y. (AP) -- Five kittens thrown into a frying pan with pork chops > > and hot oil were recovering at an animal shelter Monday, and the man accused [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > That said, he probably won't be outside roaming around for awhile until > his mental disorder is fully addressed. |
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