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Cat Forum / General Topics / August 2006Cats kneading
My 2 yr old cat has started kneading uncontrollably. He climbs on me and just goes to town. He's declawed so that's not the problem. The problem is that he pushes so hard, it hurts terribly and even bruises me. I hate making him stop b/c I feel as though I'm punishing him for being bad, and he's not, it just hurts so bad when he does it. I've tried just stopping his paws, but it only last a little while, and when I'm in bed I pull the covers up to buffer against it but he just wiggles under them to make direct contact with me. How do I make him knead softer or stop altoghether without having to throw him off of me? >My 2 yr old cat has started kneading uncontrollably. He climbs on me and just >goes to town. He's declawed so that's not the problem. The problem is that he [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >do I make him knead softer or stop altoghether without having to throw him >off of me? Hurts terribly and even bruises ?? Must be a strong cat or tender skin. >>My 2 yr old cat has started kneading uncontrollably. He climbs on me and just >>goes to town. He's declawed so that's not the problem. The problem is that he [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >Hurts terribly and even bruises ?? Must be a strong cat or tender >skin. He's a very stong cat, can knock me over when he runs full force into my legs while playing with me. That you had him declawed was very cruel. How would you like it if your fingernails were pulled out? You think that throwing him across the room is an option? You deserve to be hurt terribly. Better yet, you shouldn't have a pet. > My 2 yr old cat has started kneading uncontrollably. He climbs on me and > just [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > do I make him knead softer or stop altoghether without having to throw him > off of me? >That you had him declawed was very cruel. How would you like it if your >fingernails were pulled out? You think that throwing him across the room is [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >> do I make him knead softer or stop altoghether without having to throw him >> off of me? He was abandoned and I took him in...he was already declawed and I never let him outside because of it. My other cat, whom I've had for 8yrs is not declawed. Please do not judge a person before knowing the whole story. Some of us did not pleasae don't judge all of us for the a.s UMERS of the group. Did you get a chance to see the helpful reply post from a few of us . And by the way thank you for taking in a stray > Message posted via http://www.catkb.com >Some of us did not pleasae don't judge all of us for the a.s UMERS of the >group. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >> Message posted via http://www.catkb.com Thank You, Matthew...I apreciate the support...I just want to cry.....I came here looking for some help only to get blased for something I didn't do. It's nice to know that some ppl are not attack judgemental. There is a major problem with declawing in the world. I don't believe in unless medical necessary. But unfortunately when you or anyone mentions the word declaw the fanatics come out like another posters said. All they see is the word declaw and they go on the attack or make bad judgments. But don't be to judgmental with all of them. They like myself have seen the horrors of what happens during a declawing and will go to any means to prevent people from doing the cruelty to the furballs. They are all cats lovers and will do anything to protect them even if they go about it the wrong way >>Some of us did not pleasae don't judge all of us for the a.s UMERS of >>the [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > It's > nice to know that some ppl are not attack judgemental. I understand but still....I never jump till I know what I'm jumping on...... My previous roommate got him as a kitten....then he started clawing up everything....he totally shredded a chair and she had him declawed...then moved out and didn't take him with her.....I got him fixed b/c of the spraying.....am I going to get yelled at for that too? He's a very sweet cat and when she left him behind I decided to just keep him. I thought it would be cruel to send him away from the place he thought of as home. >There is a major problem with declawing in the world. I don't believe in >unless medical necessary. But unfortunately when you or anyone mentions [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >> It's >> nice to know that some ppl are not attack judgemental. No you are not going to get yelled at for that. You are going to be thanked for stopping the cycle of unwanted kittens. THANK YOU. >I understand but still....I never jump till I know what I'm jumping >on...... [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] >>> It's >>> nice to know that some ppl are not attack judgemental. >I understand but still....I never jump till I know what I'm jumping >on...... [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > would > be cruel to send him away from the place he thought of as home. No, you certainly are not going to get yelled at for having your cat neutered. In fact, that is the responsible thing to do -- not only for spraying, but there are a number of health factors that spay/neuter procedures help, plus the possibility of producing still more kittens in a world where a high percentage are already euthanized. Good for you. MaryL >I understand but still....I never jump till I know what I'm jumping >on...... [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > would > be cruel to send him away from the place he thought of as home. She just left him there for you to handle? What did she plan on doing if you weren't there? What an idiot. >Some of us did not pleasae don't judge all of us for the a.s UMERS of the >group. > > Did you get a chance to see the helpful reply post from a few of us . And >by the way thank you for taking in a stray Let me include my thanks to you for taking in this homeless babies. I wish there were more people that would do that. I posted a bit ago about a 8 week old calico we rescued while in Davenport, Iowa at my daughters. She called a couple days ago and told us about another family that moved out left 3 cats behind one of which is pregnant. I told her to try to get them and take to the Scott County Humane Society. If it was not so far from Michigan there I would go do it!! Idiots. Sorry to get off topic. Thanks again for taking the furbaby in and God bless. My furbabies http://members.aol.com/larrystark/ >My 2 yr old cat has started kneading uncontrollably. He climbs on me and just >goes to town. He's declawed so that's not the problem. The problem is that he [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >do I make him knead softer or stop altoghether without having to throw him >off of me? He isn't getting enough attention. Pity you had him declawed. My cats work out a lot on the rugs with this. If it comes to your throwing him off you, you need to find him a new indoors-only home. He can't protect himself any longer. Then again, perhaps you should not be owned by a cat. >>My 2 yr old cat has started kneading uncontrollably. He climbs on me and >>just [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > Then again, perhaps you should not be owned by a cat. The OP is obviously looking for a nice solution. He said that he didn't want to "punish" the cat because it wasn't really doing anything wrong. I think the "without having to throw him off me" comment wasn't literal. Seriously people. Get a grip. My cat does this too. It's actually a compliment that the cat is doing. Most people call it "mushing" and it's something to do with how they would "mush" on the mother cat when they were young. It's an affectionate sign. My cat does it to me a little bit but usually crawls up on my chest and then mushes me for a minute but then puts her paws on both sides of my neck and mushes the pillow. You could try maneuvering the cat so that his paws are on the pillow. I don't think it's a behavior you can change but you can try to maybe move the cat around a little so that he's not pawing at you in a painful spot. > The OP is obviously looking for a nice solution. He said that he didn't > want to "punish" the cat because it wasn't really doing anything wrong. I [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > you can try to maybe move the cat around a little so that he's not pawing > at you in a painful spot. This guy saw nothing wrong with virtually cutting his cat's fingers off, why do assume he doesn't intend to further harm his cat? You and I recognize kneading as a demonstration of affection, but if his reaction is to throw his cat then he is *way* too insensitive to deserve a pet. >> The OP is obviously looking for a nice solution. He said that he didn't >> want to "punish" the cat because it wasn't really doing anything wrong. [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > recognize kneading as a demonstration of affection, but if his reaction is > to throw his cat then he is *way* too insensitive to deserve a pet. One problem before people start to blast other people. Did anyone ask if that person got the cat declawed or did they adopt the cat declawed. If the OP did have the cat declawed than you can blast them for the cruelty to their cats and or educate them for the future. Most people don't know what is involved in declawing. Some vets still push the procedure. People trust their vets sometimes to much and the pet suffers You are assuming not to say you are not right but you know what they say when you assume IMO the poster is a female Second before any flames I don't support declawing unless medical necessary Most people don't > know what is involved in declawing. Some vets still push the procedure. I had no idea what was involved either - UNTIL I got a cat. I was concerned about my furniture being torn up by kitty claws, but when I found out what declawing actually entailed, I decided against it. She's got plenty of scratching posts and she still does scratch the sofa sometimes - so what? If you undergo an operation or subject your pets to an operation that you have no idea what it's all about, you shouldn't own pets. Now that I've said that, does anyone want to help me breed my cat? She's been spayed. > People trust their vets sometimes to much and the pet suffers > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Second before any flames I don't support declawing unless medical necessary >> The OP is obviously looking for a nice solution. He said that he didn't >> want to "punish" the cat because it wasn't really doing anything wrong. I [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >kneading as a demonstration of affection, but if his reaction is to throw >his cat then he is *way* too insensitive to deserve a pet. Here come the declawing fanatics again. No matter what the question if you mention declawing you may as well forget getting any answer because all they can see is the declawing part. If you want help do not mention declawing even if you did not do it or be ready for the declawing debates to start !! >>> The OP is obviously looking for a nice solution. He said that he didn't >>> want to "punish" the cat because it wasn't really doing anything wrong. [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > If you want help do not mention declawing even if you did not do it or > be ready for the declawing debates to start !! Agreed [ run for cover ] >> The OP is obviously looking for a nice solution. He said that he didn't >> want to "punish" the cat because it wasn't really doing anything wrong. I [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >kneading as a demonstration of affection, but if his reaction is to throw >his cat then he is *way* too insensitive to deserve a pet. He was abandoned and I took him in...he was already declawed and I never let him outside because of it. My other cat, whom I've had for 8yrs is not declawed. Please do not judge a person before knowing the whole story. And whe I said throw him off of me I didn't mean it literally........did you not read the part about where I don't like pushing him away b/c I know he's not doing anything wrong? >>> The OP is obviously looking for a nice solution. He said that he didn't >>> want to "punish" the cat because it wasn't really doing anything wrong. [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > he's > not doing anything wrong? You could have mentioned the adoption thing in one of your first two posts, but you didn't. I understandably guessed wrong and shouldn't have slammed you, but you should have used better judgment in your choice of roommates. That she would cruelly declaw her cat was a forewarning she was capable of abandonment or worse. Thank you for your appology but I didn't think I would have to explain my whole history with my cat to get help with a specific problem. Next time ask for more info before lauching an attack, or simply answer the question. >>>> The OP is obviously looking for a nice solution. He said that he didn't >>>> want to "punish" the cat because it wasn't really doing anything wrong. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >That she would cruelly declaw her cat was a forewarning she was capable of >abandonment or worse. When your cat starts kneading you try turning your body to receive deep tissue massage in places that help and don't hurt. It could save you money you might otherwise spend on a massage therapist. > Thank you for your appology but I didn't think I would have to explain my > whole history with my cat to get help with a specific problem. Next time [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >>That she would cruelly declaw her cat was a forewarning she was capable of >>abandonment or worse. > >>> The OP is obviously looking for a nice solution. He said that he didn't > >>> want to "punish" the cat because it wasn't really doing anything wrong. [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > That she would cruelly declaw her cat was a forewarning she was capable of > abandonment or worse. You must be one incredible piece of work.....the poster adopted a declawed cat that needed a home. In my book, that is a damned good thing to do. You were the one who stupidly jumped to conclusions. And your "apology" is backhanded and arrogant. You've got issues, buddy. >> You could have mentioned the adoption thing in one of your first two >> posts, [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > thing to do. You were the one who stupidly jumped to conclusions. And > your "apology" is backhanded and arrogant. You've got issues, buddy. You've never posted to this newsgroup in your life. Is life so boring in Pennsylvania you're home sniping on a Saturday? Get a life, or better yet get a cat so you'll have a friend. >>My 2 yr old cat has started kneading uncontrollably. He climbs on me and just >>goes to town. He's declawed so that's not the problem. The problem is that he [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >Then again, perhaps you should not be owned by a cat. He was abandoned and I took him in...he was already declawed and I never let him outside because of it. My other cat, whom I've had for 8yrs is not declawed. Please do not judge a person before knowing the whole story. >>>My 2 yr old cat has started kneading uncontrollably. He climbs on me and just >>>goes to town. He's declawed so that's not the problem. The problem is that he [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >> >>Then again, perhaps you should not be owned by a cat. I apologize. As another poster mentioned, you might have added a bit of history, but it was wrong of me to jump on you. Buy a nice wire brush and a bit of thick carpet remnant. When you brush him, he'll hunker down on the carpet and give *it* a workout instead of you. Good luck. >He was abandoned and I took him in...he was already declawed and I never let >him outside because of it. My other cat, whom I've had for 8yrs is not >declawed. Please do not judge a person before knowing the whole story. >I apologize. As another poster mentioned, you might have added a bit >of history, but it was wrong of me to jump on you. Buy a nice wire >brush and a bit of thick carpet remnant. When you brush him, he'll >hunker down on the carpet and give *it* a workout instead of you. > >Good luck. Why does a poster have to post their life history to get an answer to a question all the time ?? If they ask how to get a cat to stop kneading what is the difference where they got the cat or from who or who had the cat declawed ?!?!? Just answer the question if you can or if not keep your opinion on other things to yourself !!! My furbabies http://members.aol.com/larrystark/ >>My 2 yr old cat has started kneading uncontrollably. He climbs on me and just >>goes to town. He's declawed so that's not the problem. The problem is that he [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >Then again, perhaps you should not be owned by a cat. He was abandoned and I took him in...he was already declawed and I never let him outside because of it. My other cat, whom I've had for 8yrs is not declawed. Please do not judge a person before knowing the whole story. > My 2 yr old cat has started kneading uncontrollably. He climbs on me and just > goes to town. He's declawed so that's not the problem. The problem is that he [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > do I make him knead softer or stop altoghether without having to throw him > off of me? I don't find the neading painful but our cat can go on and on with it and it does get annoying. Our cat stops immediately if I make my stomach muscles hard. Not that that is a solution, as soon as I relax she starts again. If I pull her down toward me, she stops. I don't think letting the cat hurt you is a good idea. You don't have to beat it off, just don't let it beat you up. If you just push it away, the cat will not feel punished. > My 2 yr old cat has started kneading uncontrollably. He climbs on me and > just [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > do I make him knead softer or stop altoghether without having to throw him > off of me? You have to treat a cat like a child if you allow them to continue a bad habit they will continue. Take the cat and place him on the ground when he starts to hurt. Or when he does it any you like him to do it but more lightly put a heavy fabric between you as a buffer. Hold his paws and say no and put the cat down if he is hurting you only when he hurts you. You can also close the door to your bedroom when you sleep to eliminate the problem till he learns. Also this is a sign of affection that cat show it has something to do with the mother factor. Be happy that your cats loves you enough to do this. I call it peter patter when they do it they do it for your attention and they show love doing it. I have to do this with Rumble sometimes he starts to knead and puts his claws out trimmed or not that hurts . I put him on the ground and give him some lovin' and go on about my business. >> My 2 yr old cat has started kneading uncontrollably. He climbs on me and >> just [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] >claws out trimmed or not that hurts . I put him on the ground and give >him some lovin' and go on about my business. Look people...don't get me wrong...I love my cat very much and love that he wants to cuddle....I usually get up late in the morning simply b/c he curled up under my arm and was purring. I didn't declaw him....he was abandoned and already declawed and I never let him out b/c of it....I don't want him to get hurt. Please don't judge a person till you know the whole story. My other cat, whom I've had for 8yrs, is not declawed. I love both my cats very much and I was just trying to get help with finding a solution to his painful kneading that didn't make me feel like I was punishing him for loving me. >>> My 2 yr old cat has started kneading uncontrollably. He climbs on me and >>> just [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > kneading > that didn't make me feel like I was punishing him for loving me. Was there a reason to include my helpful reply in the response about the declawing I am not any of the ones who did comment badly on it >>>> My 2 yr old cat has started kneading uncontrollably. He climbs on me and >>>> just [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >Was there a reason to include my helpful reply in the response about the >declawing I am not any of the ones who did comment badly on it No, No, Not at all, Matther,I was just posting at the end of the thread.... Sorry...my first time using this site and I apologize if it looked like I was including you in my comments. >>>>> My 2 yr old cat has started kneading uncontrollably. He climbs on me >>>>> and [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > was > including you in my comments. No problem I posted that before the other replies just my server can be slow on multiple in group post. If you have any questions on anything give the rest of us a chance. The other posters hopefully will do the right thing and apologize for their assumptions when they see your explanations. If not that is their problem You're a sweetheart and I'll give your suggestions a try. Thanx >>>>>> My 2 yr old cat has started kneading uncontrollably. He climbs on me >>>>>> and [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >other posters hopefully will do the right thing and apologize for their >assumptions when they see your explanations. If not that is their problem Don't forget the others that helped with suggestions They might get a little jealous ;-) > You're a sweetheart and I'll give your suggestions a try. Thanx > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >>other posters hopefully will do the right thing and apologize for their >>assumptions when they see your explanations. If not that is their problem LOL....I wont...it just took me a bit to wade through the judegmental ppl. >Don't forget the others that helped with suggestions >They might get a little jealous ;-) [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >>>other posters hopefully will do the right thing and apologize for their >>>assumptions when they see your explanations. If not that is their problem My cat did some things that were annoying to me also. Over time I just moved her and although she still does it occasionally it has gotten better. I agree with the person who said to try to move his paws over onto the pillow. Sissy no longer kneads me as much but loves to knead the bed covers or the pillow. She also likes to stand on my upper arm when I am trying to go to sleep. I just moved her paws to get her to lay down. She still stands on my arm for a minute but then lays down as soon as I start to move my arm. (She stands right on a vein I guess, as it makes my arm feel funny.) Also I don't know how long you have had the cat but it is still a young cat and maybe with a little bit of time he will outgrow it. Just keep gently stopping the behavior by moving his paws and I believe he will get better. (One of my cats who has passed on liked to sleep right next to me and kneaded me very often, luckily very lightly!) > My 2 yr old cat has started kneading uncontrollably. He climbs on me and just > goes to town. He's declawed so that's not the problem. The problem is that he [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > do I make him knead softer or stop altoghether without having to throw him > off of me? God, what's with everyone freaking out at her for the cat being declawed if SHE didn't do it? I haven't seen many people answering the actual question. Just people carrying on a debate about declawing. Personally I'm against it. I think if the cat having claws is such a problem you need to find the cat a home where it's not going to be a problem. Anyway, as for the kneading problem (I've also heard it be called "muffins") I would just pet him to know he's loved and then move him away from wherever he's kneading you. I don't have this problem but my little kitty likes to knead "her" blanket and suckle on it. :-) If she was doing it to my arm it would be particulary painful and I would move her away and pet her and talk to her. If she came back I would reassure her and place her on the floor. Maybe he would enjoy kneading a pillow or something? Perhaps when he starts it up you could slide a pillow between you and him? I'm no expert, just a suggestion. Hope it doesn't continue for much longer!!  SignatureC > My 2 yr old cat has started kneading uncontrollably. He climbs on me and > just [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > do I make him knead softer or stop altoghether without having to throw him > off of me? I'm glad I saw your message where you said your cat was abandoned and declawed before you adopted him. I had a cat (RB) who had also been declawed before I adopted her, and I always make a brief reference to that fact when I discuss her. Many of us on this group are aware of the number of people who have their cats declawed despite knowing the consequences. So, thank you for adopting, and please mention the circumstances (to protect yourself) when you write. I don't think there is any way to train a cat to be more "gentle" in kneading. My Duffy is much smaller than Holly, but it is Duffy who kneads with real vigor and power. I think of kneading as a sign of trust and love, but I do know what you mean about how it can eventually become uncomfortable. I keep a small pillow or blanket beside the sofa and chair so I can gently slip it between Duffy and me when I need a "buffer." That works very well. MaryL Photos of Duffy and Holly: >'o'< Duffy: http://tinyurl.com/cslwf Holly: http://tinyurl.com/9t68o Duffy and Holly together: http://tinyurl.com/8b47e : My 2 yr old cat has started kneading uncontrollably. He climbs on me and just : goes to town. He's declawed so that's not the problem. The problem is that he [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] : do I make him knead softer or stop altoghether without having to throw him : off of me? My cat loves to knead me for a few minutes several times each day. I usually put a throw blanket or sweatshirt between us, which works fine for me. Before you try more complicated approaches, see if something as simple as a comforter or sweatshirt will solve the problem. I had a kitty that use to do this years ago. I always thought of it as a show of affection. At times it did hurt, but I loved it at the same time. I would usually let her do it for a few minutes and then deter her attention else where with a toy or something. Ginger >: My 2 yr old cat has started kneading uncontrollably. He climbs on me and just >: goes to town. He's declawed so that's not the problem. The problem is that he [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >for me. Before you try more complicated approaches, see if something as >simple as a comforter or sweatshirt will solve the problem. SignatureGinger |
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