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The_Insanely_Freakin_Simply_Amazing_Grand_Puppy_Wizard_@HotMail.Com - 12 Jun 2006 10:00 GMT
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Subject:                     Twelve Steps, Twelve Traditions

From:        I Hate To Say It But I TOLD YOU SO
Date:        Wed, Nov 23 2005 3:13 pm

HOWEDY People,

Twelve Steps, Twelve Traditions:

1. We admitted we were P-HOWERLESS to
HOWEtwit the cunning of the domestic puppy
dog - - that HOWER mishandling, HOWER
fragile defective ego's and weak fearful minds,
have made HOWER parents, spHOWESES',
children's, dog's, employer's and employee's
and HOWER own lives, unmanageable, miserable,
insane and cruel <{) : * ~  (  >

2. Came to believe that NO P-HOWER is greater
than HOWERselves and the teachings of your
FREE copy of The Amazing Puppy Wizard's
FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method
Manual and nothing but self examination, honesty,
gentlenss, and trust, could restore us, HOWER
critters and kin, to sanity <{) ; ~ )  >

3. Made a decision to turn HOWER will and HOWER
lives over to The Insanely Freakin Simply Amazing
Grand Puppy Wiard's 100% CONSISTENTLY NEARLY
INSTANTLY SUCCESSFUL FREE WWW Wits' End Dog
Training Method and asked HOWER Insanely Freakin
Simply Amazing Grand Puppy Wizard if we understood HIM.

4. Made a searching and fearless moral inventory
of HOWERselves and stopped blaming other's for
HOWER inability to communicate and demonstrate
appropriate thinking and behavior <{) : ~ ]  >

5. Admitted to dog, to HOWErselves and to another
human being the exact nature of HOWER wrongs
and left them with their own FREE copy of your FREE
copy of The Insanely Freakin Simply Amazing Grand
Puppy Wizard's 100% CONSISTENTLY NEARLY
INSTANTLY SUCCESSFUL FREE WWW Wits' End
Dog Training Method Manual and advised them to
ask Their Insanely Freakin Simply Amazing Grand
Puppy Wizard for FREE extra help, if they need any.

6. Were entirely ready to have Your Insanely Freakin Simply
Amazing Grand Puppy Wizard's 100% CONSISTENLY NEARLY
INSTANTLY SUCCESSFUL FREE WWW Wits' End  Dog
raining Method Manual Philosophy remove all these defects
of character <{) ; ~ } >

7. Humbly asked HIM to remove HOWER shortcomings.

8. Made a list of all persons and animals we had
harmed including HOWErselves, and became
willing to make amends to them all <{) : *-  {  >

9. Made direct amends to such people and animals
wherever possible and instruct humans to not harm
or injure others and encourage them to study their
own FREE copy of your FREE copy of The Insanely
Freakin Simply Amazing Grand Puppy Wizard's 100%
CONSISTENTLY NEARLY INSTANTLY SUCCESSFUL
FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual.

10. Continued to take personal inventory and when
we were wrong promptly consulted your own FREE
copy of The Insanely Freakin Simply Amazing Grand
Puppy Wizard's 100% CONSISTENTLY NEARLY
INSTANTLY SUCCESSFUL FREE WWW Wits' End
Dog Training Method Manual or asked YOUR Insanely
Freakin Simply Amazing Grand Puppy Wizard for FREE
guidance <{) ; ~ )  >

11. Sought through praise and demonstrated self
control to improve HOWER consciHOWES contact
with HOWER dogs, parents, children, spHOWESES,
employees and employer's, as we understood HOWER
Insanely Freakin Simply Amazing Grand Puppy Wizard,
praying only for knowledge of HIS will for us and the
P-HOWER to carry out the FREE Wits' End Dog
Training Method philosophy despite criticism, aversion,
animosity, anger and threats incured from other less
intelligent human beings struggling with their own
shame guilt and anger for their own failures, cruelty,
vindictiveness, anger, cowardice and guilt <{) ' ~ )  >

12. Having had a spiritual awakening as the result
of these steps, we tried to carry this message to
dog lovers and abusers, parents and grandparents,
uncles, aunts, teachers, employer's, friends and
acquaintances and to practice these principles in
all HOWER affairs till there are no MOORE abuses
disguised as CORRECTIONS, LOVE, CARE,
SHELTER, RESCUE, and con men like ed w of
http://www.petloss.CON, professor SCRUFF SHAKE
dermer of the ANAL-ytic behaviorISM department of
UofWI, Master Of Deception blankman of http://www.dogplay.CON,
captain arthurt haggarty, uncle matty, and all other
heelpless formerly hopeless alpha/pain/fear/force/intimidation
lying dog abusing Punk Thug Cowards and active acute
chronic formely heelpless hopeless MENTAL CASES
who know when and HOWE to HURT a dog to train IT.

From: Eric
To: jho...@bellsouth.net
Sent: Friday, November 29, 2002 7:54 AM
Subject: just checking in...

Jerry!

You helped me with my pal Dundee about a year ago regarding
submissive peeing.  Just wanted to let you know he's doing
great- he was "cured" in about 2 days using your techniques!
He has since become the "smartest dog in the world"!  Once I
stopped thinking like a human and got inside his head, I can
teach him ANYTHING, usually in a matter of minutes.  Makes me
look like an expert dog-trainer.

I rescued two strays last week, cleaned 'em up, wormed 'em,
and am getting them their shots. Time to get inside their
heads and teach them to teach themselves how to be good dogs!
Instead of feeling like "training" is a chore, I look forward
to working with these guys a couple times a day...

Although I don't follow your instructions "to a T",
I learned from you to "think like a dog" and stimulate
their brain rather than beating a.s or pinching, or any
of that nonsense.  I know damn well I would NOT be loyal
to someone who beat MY a.s lol!

Well, just wanted to thank you for rattling the bushes out
there and teaching folks the RIGHT way to "train" dogs.  A
horseman friend of mine uses very similar techniques in
training his horses- he calls it "natural horsemanship".  He
is hated by nearly all the local "trainers" yet somehow he
repeatedly wins at every show he attends. He rarely shows any
more, but goes now and then to rub their noses in it (pun
intended)...  Too cool....

Have a great holiday season and keep up the good work!

Eric , Dundee, Sammy, and Maynard

====================

From: "Ms. Mick" <m...@crneckiy.com>
Subject: Re: Dog will not listen to anyone but me!

"The Puppy Wizard" <jho...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:rQpW8.66560

> It'd take fifteen minutes to train this dog to
> come to EVERY member of the family if you knew
> HOWE, Master Of Deception blankman.

Okay, I gotta speak up here... We've been using
Jerry's methods with our dog.  We had the same
problem as the original poster has with Buzz.

One day working with the family pack exercise
and practicing the recall command with the family
and she'll now go out with hubby and daughter
instead of needing me to reassure her or even
refusing to go with anyone but me.

I really urge you, regardless of the negative
things you might hear about Jerry & Wits' End
here, to try the method and *judge the results
for yourself*.

Let's see what other areas she's improved in...
always comes when called, not chewing stuff even
if we leave it laying around, "re"housebroken after
long shelter stay, walks perfectly on leash, doesn't
try to steal food from our plates or beg... probably
a few more things I'm forgetting to mention.

That's in about a week's time.

Her overall demeanor has changed.  When we brought
her home she was very untrusting and ultra-submissive
(except with her area/toys where she was possessive
and nippy).  She had been abused and beaten by
previous owners, then she was in a shelter for months.

They (most of them) wanted to give up and kill her

Now she's gained confidence and trust with us.
Last night was another big breakthrough (in my eyes).
She barked!  Big deal, she barked just once when she
heard the front door.  Great!

Anyway, you'll be told lots of nasty stuff about
Jerry or that the Wits' End manual is culled from
other sources.  In my opinion, even if it is, it
takes only the good stuff and leaves out the bad.

Works for me.

(And I suppose I gotta say this... I don't know
Jerry personally.  I've emailed him and instant
messaged him.

I have not bought a "Doggy Do Right".
He's offered help for free.)

M.

From: "Ms. Mick" <m...@crneckiy.com>
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs.behavior,alt.animals.dog
Subject: Re: Dog will not listen to anyone but me!

"michael" <c...@dogtv.com> wrote in message

news:3D2BD729.12A6E049@dogtv.com...

> Tell me, Ms Mick, what's Jerry paying you to
> be a paid shill? I want you to be a paid shill
> for dogtv.com networks from now on. I'll double
> what Howe's giving you, and then add on 50% MOORE
> as a bonus. Is it a deal?

Ooh.. $0 + 50%, what a dream!  :)

To the other posters, just what exactly is
plagiarized in the Wits' End manual?   I'll
get whatever book you claim the material to
be from to check it out.  You prove it to me.
I don't have the problem training this dog
(using the Wits' End manual).. seems everyone
else is having the problems with their dogs.

People bitch that I'm not giving advice, then
bitch again because they disagree when I do.
I don't care.  All I know is that my dog is
doing well.

When I said "culled" I meant that what I consider
bad methods are left out. I've already stated that
I think choke/pinch/shock collars, crates, food
bribes, and other punishments are unnecessary.

If a book recommends them,it either goes in the
trash or back to the store.  I've given up on dog
training books.  I'm not going to devote time reading
books that go against what I'd do to train a dog.

I don't care if the authors are "experts" or not.
Some people here have said, "I thought I'd never
do X either until..." or that there is value in
all tools.  Uhm... I'm sorry.  A shock collar, for
one example, has no positive value whatsoever.  If
you think it does, you wear one for a day and let
somebody "correct" you for whatever they like.
At the end of the day you'd probably want to slap
that person silly.  I'm not willing to compromise
my views.  I will *never* use those methods.

I've taken back book after book because it claims
to be compassionate or non-force.  I open the book
and it's a lie.  Last book I glanced at was "Good
Owners, Great Dogs".  First page I flipped to was
a picture showing how to teach sit by jerking a
choke collar while pushing down the dog's back
end.  Lots of pictures showing how to jerk that
leash... *sigh*

Oh, and I once upon a time I thought I was safe
buying that book by Monks. Monks!  Sadistic
bastards who *hit* and jerked dogs into submission.

This is not my first dog.  I've had dogs in the
past and not used any formal training methods with
them, just my normal belief that all dogs can be good
dogs with positive feedback and without punishment.

It always worked.After my last dog died (about 10
years ago) I didn't get another.  I've wanted to
during this time, but I had a divorce, a child,
and other things that took most of my time.  For
the past three years I've really missed having a
dog around.  So, on my birthday, my husband said,
"Let's go to the shelter."  I actually found her
on petfinder.com first.

My current dog needed me to come along or she
would be dead now.  I'm not exaggerating, the
vet at the shelter wanted to kill her the day
we brought her home.  Why?  Because she was a
behavioral nightmare for them.

People wouldn't look twice at her after she
snarled at them and warned them to get away
from her cage.  They couldn't look past the
tearing up garbage, fear, abuse, and
housebreaking problems that were listed in
her bio.

We had filled out the paperwork to adopt her
on Saturday, and they stretched the waiting
period out from 24 hours until Tuesday.  Why?
Because the vet didn't want to take a chance
on her and wanted to kill her!  I think he was
hoping that the long wait would make us give up,
but all it did was encourage us to visit her
every day, take her for walks, and bring her
stuff from "home".  Luckily, one of the dog
handlers there was sane and stood by us when
we went there on that Tuesday and demanded that
they let us take her home.  She's recovering now
and getting better by the day.

I can't have a dog that pulls on a leash or jumps on
me or anything like that.  I'm disabled from a car
accident 15 years ago.  I can walk (slowly) and all
that, but lack the balance and strength to survive
a dog dragging me around on a leash or knocking me
over.  I'd never be able to catch her if
she decided to run away.

I *need* a well-behaved dog.  If my dog wanted
to, she'd have me on my butt in two seconds. I
don't have that problem though.

So excuse me if I come here and get upset when I
read a bunch of posts giving "advice" to "train"
dogs by the "experts" that'll make the dogs just
as messed up as mine was when I first met her.
(She had such fear that everything she did was
going to mean being hit or her paws squeezed or
be locked up that she would get ultra-submissive,
anxious and would pee all over.

She's a big enough dog (Rott/Shep. mix) that if
she would have decided to attack instead, she
could cause major damage.  Lucky she was kept
in a cage/tied up, huh?)  It tends to upset me
a bit, and all my niceness goes right out the window.

I mistakenly thought that these dog groups would be
a positive experience, but for the most part they've
just made me angry.  "Dimpled Chad" has been polite
and helpful, but almost everyone else seems to have
a problem with me speaking my mind.

M.

=======================

From: Paul B (NOSPAMpaulbou...@clear.net.nz)
Subject: Re: Dog vs cat food (stealing cat food)
Date: 2001-03-03 22:18:03 PST

It's possible to teach a dog not to eat out of a cat bowl
without too much difficulty.

My dogs don't touch the food in the cat bowls although
Roz licks up any bits that have been dropped around the bowls
:-)

I used a can with stones in it to create a distraction
anytime the dogs tried to eat the cats food, followed
with immediate praise. It worked a treat.

The cats bowls are down all the time, usually there is
food left over but the dogs don't eat it, even if we go
out and leave the dogs with access inside through a dog door.

Paul

--
Obedience and affection are not related, if they
were everyone would have obedient dogs.

See the dogs, cats, us and pics of NZ etc at my homepage.....

http://home.clear.net.nz/pages/paulbousie/index.html

Updated regularly (last time 23 Jan 01) so keep coming back!!!

====================

"Paul B" <pand...@zfree.co.nz> wrote in message

news:3c2ae204@clear.net.nz...

> Bollocks, the manual has no dangerous suggestions at
> all, people who find the manual useful are those that
> don't need to control a dog to satisfy their own ego
> but simply want a well behaved dog that is easy to
> live with. I would suggest the people who follow the
> advice in his manual are people who have already
> tried other inefficient methods and are fed up with
> the poor results.

> The more I think about the methods he suggests the
> more sense it makes, the biggest problem is people
> believe they have to be in control of the dog, tell it
> whats right and wrong, dogs don't understand
> our values and I don't believe they are capable of
> understanding them either, so to train them we use
> methods they understand. That means abstract
> training, doing sometimes what appears to
> almost be the opposite of what makes sense to us.
> If you are purely result orientated then you will not
> find Jerry's manual much use, if you love your dogs
> and love to work WITH them then his manual is
> your dream come true. Distraction and praise works
> with any dog, when you sit back and really think about
> it, it's very obvious why.

> When a dog is properly distracted (and praised) of a
> particular behaviour then that behaviour very quickly
> becomes unfulfilling so the dog will no longer have any
> interest in pursuing it, whether we are about or not,
> thats the key to stopping garbage can raids and food
> stealing etc etc, no force, no bad dog, just distracting it
> in an appropriate manner that it no longer wishes to
> pursue that behaviour.
.
> Better than hiding the garbage can eh?
> Paul

=======================

Subject: Re: Get off the bed... please?

Paul B (NOSPAMpaulbou...@clear.net.nz)
Subject: Good dogs!!! bad dogs.??
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs.behavior
View this article only
Date: 2000/10/21

Something occurred this morning that made me think how
we treat our dogs and what expectations we have of them.

Because it was a Saturday we slept in and the dogs
eventually jumped up on the bed on my wife's side. After
a brief greeting she very abruptly demanded they get down,
"OFF THE BED" she insisted, Sam looked at her perplexed,
so she repeated the "order", so Sam tried to lick her face,
"GET OFF" she said abruptly.

Sam got down but was unsure what he had done wrong. After
a bit they both came over and jumped up on my side, I patted
them etc and eventually asked them to get down, "off the bed,
good dogs" and they hopped off immediately with no prob's.

Eileen asked me why they obey me and not her so easily.
I told her they got down for me because I asked them to,
they know the command "off the bed" or "off anything" so
there is no need to demand it of them, ask them and they
will comply, demand it and they get confused because
they think you are annoyed with them but they don't know
why so they try to "make amends" which is why Sam licked her.

I have found giving dogs "payment" in advance i.e. "Sam
sit goodboy" makes the dogs want to respond, after all, all
dogs want to be "good dogs" and if you tell them they are
good then they feel an obligation to obey your request.

Telling Sam he's a good dog after he sit's apart from been too
late is also a gamble because if he doesn't sit then there's
no positive interaction. Trust your dog, ask it to do your
request and say "good dog" sincerely at the end of the request
and I bet you'll find your dog thinking then responding
everytime.

Paul

=======================

From: Paul B (NOSPAMpand...@zfree.co.nz)
Subject: Re: Get off the bed... please?
Date: 2001-07-03 03:05:59 PST

A bit of respect works wonders, the same rule applies to
every aspect of the relationship with your dog.

Paul.

========================

"melisande" <melisand...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:rLo08.751$0H.535937@paloalto-snr1.gtei.net...

> I haven't quite finished reading the free chapter on
> your website,

It's moore than a chapter, it's a comprehensive,
total, complete, gestalt method to train all animals
to any level you desire.

> but it already worked miracles with our three dogs.

Excellent.

> The barking at the door has diminished so much
> that, well, frankly, we're stunned.

My methods work faster than any others, anywhere at
any price, including the thirty five level of medical grade
static like stimulation devices and pronged spiked pinch
choke collars our "experts" here love so much.

> We were sort of on the same page with you to begin
> with (no crates, no choke chains).

Good. Crates aren't inherently bad, only the way they're
misused.

> A lot of what you say reminds of my dad's techniques
> (he's an 84 year old dog lover,one of those about whom
> people say, "dogs really like him." He's
> never had a badly behaved dog.

Good. I've got a lot in common with folks who are gentle
and treat animals kindly.

> We'd never heard of the noise emphasis,

You mean the sound distraction and praise techniques.

> but the overall plan makes great sense.

Yes, one of my students Paul B wrote an excellent post
recently I'll include it at the bottom. It'll explain HOWE the
distraction and praise process works from his POV as an
experience handler using my methods.

> I did have a question.  The hardest part for us to
> implement is the verbal praise only.

Why? That should be spontaneous and in association
with every glance towards you and every thought.

> It's so hard not to pet and stroke the dog (especially
> our seven month old).

Oh. Pattng is O.K., only not in conjunction with a
thought or command, as it will interrupt the thought
process and may lock the dog's thoughts on an
inappropriate idea.

> Can you give me the rationale behind that?

It's called positive thigmotaxis, the opposition reflex.
Like if we're walking our dog and want to prevent him
from interacting with another dog, and we pull back
on the collar, that often triggers the dog to go out of
control.

As long as there's contact on the collar, the dog will
continue his original thoughts about interacting with
the passerby. Then because the dog is out of control,
the handler needs to further force restraint, making
communication with the dog's MIND, impossible.

> It will help me modify my own behavior.

Any time your dog is close enough to be patted is
fine to pat him, as long as we're not working with a
command or thought we want him to process.

> Anyway, your approach is amazing.

Yes, it's caused quite a stir here. If my methods are as
effective and fast and safe as I claim and my students
confirm, that pretty much means that all of my critics
are DEAD WRONG, and all's that's left  for me to
do is shovel some dirt over them over and let 'em push
up daisies.

> Melisande

==========================================

Hi, Jerry.

I'm not sure that I'm a 100% convert, or that I agree
with (or even understand) 100% of what you say in this
manual ... BUT ... we had "come" down pat in a few
reps and you could have knocked me down when I tried
the exercise with "drop" and, after a few reps in
different spots Darwin practically *threw* the rubber
ball at my feet on command. He's still not perfect
(just a pup, after all, and he's stubborn enough to
want to push and test me a little bit more).

For what it's worth, I can see (as no doubt you have)
how your usenet manner is likely to rankle a few
folks, but that woman who advocates ear pulling and
beating with sticks deserves everything she gets. Even
if that was the only method that would work, I'd live
with my dog not fetching rather than do any of that.
(Darwin fetches enthusiastically and instinctively,
tho').

Best, ben

===================

Dave Cohen <coh...@total.net writes:

Re: Barking Deterrants Needed...

Hi. Please understand that I do not know Jerry and have
spoken with him briefly once by email.

I have no stake or interest in the success of  his
business.  I simply want to thank him publicly for one
of his tips, with regards to separation anxiety.

I thought it seemed far fetched to praise a stuffed
animal and then say good bye to my own dog, but
I am usually a very open minded person, so I tried it.
Well, lo and behold- the damn trick worked!

I think Jerry has some intriguing techniques, and
personally I think everyone who constantly criticizes
him is not understanding his logic. Thank you Jerry!

===================

Jeremy writes:

"A customer recently purchased a Shiba Inu and I suspect
she may be in for a wild ride.  This is a breed that I suspect
may respond particularly well to mutual respect style
training.

The alpha complex (as I now call it) is likely to
really provoke the dog's naturally competitive nature.

Thanks 1000 times for opening my eyes and don't let
those a.sholes get you down.  I can't be the only person
that sees the sense in your methods. I'm in Windsor,
Ontario, Canada and pass your info to anyone it might
help" Thanks, Jeremy.

================

From: Becky (Becky...@new.rr.com)
Subject: Re: Crate Anxiety
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs.behavior
Date: 2002-04-04 12:56:23 PST

Try Jerry Howe's training manual and check out his Doggy
Do Right (And Kitty Will And A Rooster Did And A Cockatoo
Or Two Did Too) machine....it is for this.

Please do not listen to the others in here that don't like
him or his methods, they have never tried them....I  have
and it works!!!!

I broke my dog from nipping almost 100% in 1 day and
she usually does this SEVERAL times a day and actually
makes my kids bleed!

Try it or contact him!  The manual is at the above website
also, and it is free!

Becky

===========

<"Terri"@cyberhighway

> Hey, do like me, and killfile Jerry.
> He has millions of people aleady reading his posts and
> watching him extract his soggy foot out of his mouth!
> Out of these MILLIONS, I've only seen 2 naive childs
> come forward and actually believe in his training manual.
Robert Crim writes:

I assume that I and my wife are those two naive childs
since I freely admit to having read and, I hope,
understood enough of the manual and it's counterparts by
John Fisher and the posts of Marilyn Rammell to believe
and use it.

This naive child would like to say thank you to both
Jerry and Marilyn for putting up with a constant barrage
of really infantile crap at the hands of supposedly
adult dog lovers.

The other naive child (LSW) has to put up with the
nagging idea that if people like them had been posting
earlier, maybe we would not have had to hold the head
of a really magnificent animal in our arms while he was
given the needle and having to hug him and wait until he
gasped his last gasp.

To my mind, "naive" is believing you can terrorize a dog
into good behavior. Naive is believing that people that
hide behind fake names are more honest than people that
use their real names. Naive is thinking that dilettante
dog breeders and amateur "trainers" like Joey
(lyingdogDUMMY, j.h.) are the equal or better than
those that have studied and lived by their craft for
decades.

"Stupid" is believing that people do not see kindergarten
level insults for what they are. Really stupid is believing
that people like Jerry Howe and Marilyn Rammell are
going to just go away because you people act like fools.

Why do you act like fools? I really have no idea, and I
don't really care.

> And, to date: I've not seen ONE come forward and
> actually admit to buying and having success with his
> little black box.

I think I'm going to get one myself for Father's day and
take it down to the Animal Shelter for their use and
testing. You would never believe the results, so you'll
never know.

> Anyone by now that doesn't see a scam man coming by
> Jerry's posts deserves to get what is sure to be coming
> to him! LOL!

I don't see a "scam man", so I guess I and Longsuffering
Wife and Rollei will just have to get what we deserve,
eh? As Joey (Dogman) says, "poor Rollei.".......right.

>Terri

Yes it was, and that is sad.

Robert, Longsuffering Wife and Rollei (do I get to
listen to the box first?)

====================

"Hoku Beltz" <h...@rsphawaii.com> wrote in message
news:SN2k9.45447$V7.10868114@twister.socal.rr.com...

> Aloha Sunny,
> Just follow the training program to the letter,
> no matter how insignificant some of the step
> seem to be and your pupy will be a very well
> behaved dog in a few days.

> I would seriously consider backing out of the
> training classes as they will conflict with the
> Wit's End principles.

> I went the training route first, and still had problems
> until I found Wits' End.  Now I have two "new and
> improved" dogs.
> You won't be dissapointed if you follow the program.
> Good luck,
> Hoku

==================

From: Hoku Beltz
To: The Puppy Wizard
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 6:12 PM
Subject: Mahalo

Aloha Jerry,

Just wanted to let you know that the surrogate toy
technique is working wonders.  I have not had a
shredded sheet for over a week now.  It is nice
to be able to leave the bed made and come home
to a made bed.

Your program is awesome, but you already know
that.  Keep up the good work!

Hoku

==================

"misty" <Momi...@webtv.net> wrote in message

news:16990-3CAB1F8C-1@storefull-2293.public.lawson.webtv.net...

> I don't now whether Peach is dead or alive.
> I do know she's not here with us. I really can't
> blame anyone here for her loss.
> I'm the one who ignored your advice. I did it
> because of how you write/wrote. I was unwilling
> to accept the idea that my using a shock collar
> could have any bearing on Peach not wanting
> to stay home.
> Up until I started using it my main concern
> had been keeping my dogs in their own yard.
> Once I started using the e-fence...well, then
> my concern became how to keep them from
> running off for days on end.
> I lost valuable training time becoming embroiled
> in the anti- shock debate and the "Jerry sux" tirades.
> I lost one dog but I have the bestest dog in the
> world now <g> A Wits End Trained dog, one
> who is completely housetrained, doesn't chew
> up stuff, stays in the yard, and doesn't bark
> all the time. IOW a great companion and friend.
> Thanks Jerry!

=====================

"misty" <Momi...@webtv.net> wrote in message

news:6946-3B6337A1-329@storefull-233.iap.bryant.webtv.ne

> We just installed a PetSafe brand fence this Spring.
> Two dogs, two collars We now have one dog and no
> collars.
> Peach and Zelda would run thru the fence, not want to
> come back in the yard and would run for days. The
> last time, Peach didn't come back home.
> I used the Wit's End Training Manual to learn how to
> train my dog. She is now border trained. A few
> minutes each day reinforces her desire to stay in the
> yard.
> She no longer runs out into the road, I can stop her
> from chasing cats and she no longer cringes when we
> walk around the yard.
> I can not say loud or long enough how much I hate the
> e-fence and its collars. If you can't get a regular fence
> then you need to train your dog. I will never rely on an
> electronic collar to keep my dog in our yard again.
> The price was too high:-(
> ~misty

============

"JoeTheGuru" <joetheg...@hotmail.com.NOSPAM wrote in message

JERRY SAVE THIS LAD!!!!

or it could be a troll <are you a troll??
do not use it on your dog.....

would you use it on your best friend.....

I have read jerry's book, it seems too easy at first.
however I started to use some of the training out of
it and now.

I have a dog that heels as fast as a collie in a
trial.<great dane X mastiff

I have a dog that stays and never leaves the spot.

I have a dog that comes when ever I call.

I have a dog that never leaves the yard, never runs
away.

I have a dog that stands still to be washed
with the cold hose.

I have a dog that never pulls on
the lead when we walk.

I have a dog that puts up with more abuse then a
dog should from my 2 year old <and loves it

I have a dog that barks at the fence only when some
ones there.

I have a dog that would not care less if there is
another dog in the park <only wants to be with and
please me though a lot of this is due to me training
the dog <spending the time with the dog.

jerry's book showed me not to punish the dog. but
just to work with the dog. which I liked the idea of
hence why I tried it. it is easy to become
frustrated with a dog when you are trying to train
them.

I look forward to my next puppy <ban dog so
I can use the information from jerry's book
and see just how good a dog can get.

the dog I have now was when I picked her up from the
RSPCA. she could not walk on a lead <no idea. cowered
from every noise <and wet her self, messed in the
house at every turn. acted like I was killing her
when I dragged her over to the mess.

this was A 6 month old pup that had been beaten <2.5
feet to the shoulder. I could of taken her back
however I knew I could bring her back to being to be a dog.

the dog I have now at 1.5 years <same dog is a dog
to be proud to walk down the street with <3 feet to
the shoulder and still growing.

so well behaved even when people walk passed with a
out of control dog. gentle with my child and trust
worthy < I never have to worry that my dog
will bite her, only have to worry if a stranger
comes over to my child. still that is not a worry
she places herself between my child and the
stranger

I may be plugging jerry's book, however with the
crap out there it is good to see that someone has
moved forward. looked at a different way to train
dogs. yes he gets into people, and in their face <
you should back off a little jerry however he is
sick of the bashing, choking, shocking, shaking and
everything else. so jerry save this lad from ruining
his dog. later, Joe

==================

"Charlie Wilkes" <charlie_wil...@easynews.com wrote in message

I read up on rotties, pitbulls, etc., and quite a
bit of the literature suggested I needed to assert
my dominance and "make the dog earn everything it
gets."

I tried this once or twice, just by taking a stern
tone of voice, and the results were terrible.
The pup got scared and just wanted to stay away from
me.

That's why I support Jerry Howe and his FREE
Wits' End Dog Training manual -- that and the fact
that Jerry is an all-around great guy.

The core takeaway I got from Jerry's manual is this:
make yourself the center of your puppy's world -
- his personal Lord Jesus. Never give him a reason
to fear you or think you're angry. Love the heck
out of him, and you'll end up with a great dog.

This has truly worked with my puppy. She'll do
anything I want her to, if she understands, because
she trusts me 100 percent, and nothing is more
important in her world than her relationship
with me. http://www.geocities.com/viscouspuppy
Charlie

=========================

Dear Jerry-

I just wanted to let you know how wonderful your
Doggy Do Right product is. I was skeptical at first,
but have been tremendously pleased.

As you know, we had a neighbor's dog that was extremely
bothersome, at times barking loudly
for 3 hours straight.

Within a few days, the barking decreased, and
now it is just the occasional bark. this dog lives
approximatey 500 feet away, and even at that
distance, the machine has done wonders.

You were always available and patient to answer my
questions, and now I can be in my own home without going nuts from
the barking.

As an added pleasure, all the other minor barking nuisances in the
neighborhood have stopped
as well.

Quiet is wonderful! Thank you.

Pam Graves

=======================

From: George von Hilsheimer, Ph. D.
Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 3:21 PM
Subject: [GVS]doggydoright

I just had a nice talk with the man who invented the
"doggiedoright"device.

If you know someone working at a shelter etc
who wants to quieten thedogs in the neighborhood
then this is an ideal present for them - and he will
sell it at a discount.

He sounds like someone we all know who
has no sense at all about money. Nice, nice man.

"doggydoright" may be obtained from
http://www.doggydoright.com

I now have four locations at which the thing
has worked, so I recommend it.

Yap yap yap no more! I have zero financial
interest in this.

George

============

       "Linda" <llindaleedan...@msn.com wrote in message
       news:

       I have been trying for the last 18 months to help my
       dog who became fear aggressive at 18 month of age.
       I do not know what started the problem but he came
       aggressive first with dogs and then began lunging and
       snapping at people. Until this time he loved everyone
       and could play with any dog. He was well socialized
       ad I took him with me everywhere.

       At 13 months he passed the Canine Good Citizens
       Test except he could let me leave him. I had used
       clicker training to teach him manners and tricks but
       it was not working on his aggression problem.

       I took him to vets who suggested a low protein diet,
       trainers who charged $800 to only make him worse.
       They tried to use a prong collar and he froze, urinated
       and tried to climb on my head to help him. they then
       suggested a shock collar I knew this approach was not
       working as he was becoming more aggressive.

       I took him to an animal behaviorist with Ph. D. 400 miles
       away who told me to "KEEP HIM SAFE" and read a book
       on the fearful canine. I tried another trainer who tried to
       use a nylon chock collar but it only made him worse.

       I read hundreds of books,"CULTURE CLASH", "DOG
       ARE FROM NEPTUNE", "THE OTHER END OF THE
       LEASH", ETC looking for help. We finally went to Purdue
       University Small Animal Behavior Clinic and they said he
       had fear aggression, punishment would not work, use the
       gentle leader and when out walking and he got stressed
       have the people stop until he could get in control using
       treats, and work on clicker training.

       At that point I knew more about clicker training and using
       the gentle leader than they did! Nothing was working--he
       would not come when I called him and would run away when
       I tried to catch him. I was afraid to walk him even in the
       neighborhood as we had become that "mean dog and women who
       hasn't trained her dog"

       I went to four trainers in both Michigan and Florida who
       were trainer/specialists in aggression and the last two
       were so afraid of him they could not approach him. No one
       said I should give up on him and kill him but they would
       say "You have to realize he is dangerous and you are
       responsible for him."

       *(You got LUCKY, Linda... They coulda got Sunshine
       DEAD on us. Damned near did... too.)

       As last resort I tried the internet again--I had had on
       going discussions with trainers from Triple Crown and Dr
       Meister with out any help-and I found the ad to Doggy Do
       Right and messaged Jerry to ask if this might help my dog.
       He said solving the aggression problem was EZ but I could
       not believe him even when I downloaded the manual.

       The name of the method was right I was at my Wits End.
       I had been working for 18 months!

       Using the can sound three time he came, and still comes
       from anywhere with the command-"comegoodboy" Next
       I tried the can when walking him--when he saw a dog three
       blocks away he went off-lunging and snapping-I used the
       can sound and he looked at me like uhn?

       I used it three more times and we got to the other dog-
       -the looked at me wagging his tail--the other person
       looked at me like why are shaking that can but just walked
       on by.

       When ever I try to explain about the sound people look at
       me like "you must be out of your mind"

       The results can make a believer!!!

       Three weeks since beginning the Wits End Training
       Manual program I walked him without the gentle leader
       in a busy shopping area with many dogs.

       He just seemed to not notice any one.

       When people talked to him or ask his name he would
       look at then and wag his tail and let then pet him.

       I still can not believe the change in him--we can now
       enjoy life out in public.

       If I had not found the Wits End method I know there
       was no hope for him and he would have hurt someone
       Through all this he never growled at me, guarded his
       toys or food or showed any sign of aggression with me.

       My goal is to get the message out to all dog lovers that
       dogs can be trained fast, easily and problems solved with
       out force, pain, food or anything but sound and praise!!!!

       I know most people would have given up on him a long time
       ago but he was and is my life. Solving the problem was EZ
       but only with the right approach-sound and praise.

       I know because I tried everything else and nothing worked!!!

       ================================

       From: Linda Daniel
       To: Jerry Howe
       Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 1:06 AM
       Subject: Re: - Re: dog aggression

       Thanks for writing--I would be happy to do almost anything
       to get your approach out to dog owners as I know it would
       save so many lives.  I know at times I was so frustrated I
       thought of giving up on Sunshine but of course I never would
       have but many people would have.  The world just does not
       know you can train a dog in just a few sessions and actually
       solve problems.

       We will be here until late April and we really have no plans-
       -just to enjoy the warmth and sun of Florida, so any time
       you could meet us would be great.  I drive so I would be
       happy to come to you anytime anywhere!

       We went to Celebration today and two little poodles got
       right into his face and he just sat there--I GOT a little
       scared but he handled it just fine.--a couple of times people
       would ask his name and want to pet him and he just went
       to them tail wagging and rolled over for them rub his tummy.

       He really just is not concerned about people passing, even
       those on rollerblades!  I have always used a gentle leader
       in public but he spent most of time rubbing his face on the
       grass--today I used his collar and he was so much happier!!

       Only problem is he will stop to smell and I can not get
       stopped soon enough to keep the leash loose.  He never
       pulled ahead of me but when he gets into smelling I have
       a hard time getting him going--at times  I think he could
       smell a blade of grass for 10 minutes.

       I can never thank you enough for giving Sunshine back!!!!!

       I wrote to Purdue and told them about him being able to
       walk in a crowd with out the /gentle leader and not having
       a problem with other people and dogs.

       I told them their advice did not work. Their advice was
       to use the gentle leader at all times and when he was
       around people or dogs to have him sit and reward with
       treats--one really good suggestions was to have people
       coming toward us stop when he got stressed or aroused
       and not move until we backed away-

       - can you just see me yelling at people to stop on the street
       until I get his attention with treats.

       They also suggested the possibility of using drugs-prozac-
       but thought he was too dangerous as the drug would make
       him less fearful and then he might attack or become more
       sure of himself and become dominate aggressive. Just had
       to share their great advice with you but I am sure you have
       heard it all--even I am becoming an expert on bad advice.

       ----------------------------------

Thank you,
Jerry Howe,
Director of Research,
Human And Animal Behavior
Forensic Sciences Research Laboratory,
BIOSOUND Scientific
Director of Training,
Wits' End Dog Training
1611 24th St
Orlando, FL 32805
Phone: 1-407-425-5092

The Insanely Freakin Simply Amazing Grand  Puppy Wizard. <{}TIFSAGPW ;
~ )   >
ByTor - 12 Jun 2006 12:09 GMT
In article <1150102835.805546.149410@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
The_Insanely_Freakin_Simply_Amazing_Grand_Puppy_Wizard_@HotMail.Com,  
says...

> >From The Annals Of Human_And_Animal_Behavior_Forensic_Sciences_

Anon is that you? Relative maybe?

Expanding on your hobby I see..........Get outa here with this stupid
sh.t will ya please..........
The_Insanely_Freakin_Simply_Amazing_Grand_Puppy_Wizard_@HotMail.Com - 12 Jun 2006 13:27 GMT
HOWEDY ByTor,

> In article <1150102835.805546.149410@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
> The_Insanely_Freakin_Simply_Amazing_Grand_Puppy_Wizard_@HotMail.Com,
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Anon is that you?

Nope. The Incredibly Insanely Freakin Simply Amazing Grand Puppy
Wizard NEVER posts anonymHOWESLY despite tarag aka tara.green2's
delusiional ASSertation. She's a proven lyin animal abusin punk thug
coward active acute chronic long term incurable mental case and The
Incredibly Insanely Freakin Simply Amazing Puppy Wizard sincerely
wishes you'd keep her over there at A.A. on accHOWENT of we got
NO USE for that kinda GARBAGE workin with livin critters <{) ' ~ ) >

>  Relative maybe?

Nope. The Incredibly Insanely Freakin Simply Amazing Puppy
Wizard is the SON OF SATAN HISSELF <{) ; ~ ) >

> Expanding on your hobby I see..........

We was talkin abHOWET bein KINDLY towards critters, ByTor.

> Get outa here with this stupid sh.t will ya please..........

We was talkin abHOWET you thinkin of gettin rid of your kat
for pissin all over your HOWES, ByTor. Kats an dogs PISS
in their owner's HOWESES for ONLY WON (or possibly both)
of TWO POSSIBLE REAONS: 1. Thye're DEATHLY ILL or 2.
They're DEATHLY UNHAPPY.

Dogs an kats HOWEsbreak INSTINCTIVELY at four weeks of age.
HOWEsbreakin is a critters MOST NORMAL NATURAL INNATE
INSTINCTIVE TERRORTERIAL IMPERATIVE IMPERATIVE <{) ; ~ ) >

Despite animal lover's and traditional veterinary malpracticioner's
ignorameHOWES advice surgical sexual mutilation CAUSES so
called spraying and "terrortorial marking" and causes chronic
heelth and temperament problems <{) : ~ (  >

CuriHOWES AIN'T IT HOWE your punk thug coward active acute
chronic long term incurable mental case pal tarag aka tara.green2
DIDN"T HAVE NO doGdameneD TRAININ ADVICE for your kat,
ByTor, DESPITE that kats an dogs TRAIN THE SAME SAME:

Sam Corson, Pavlov's Last Student Demonstrated At
UofOH Oxford, That Rehabilitation Of Hyperactive
Dogs Can Easily And Readily Be Done Using TLC.
Tender Loving Care Is At The Root Of The Scientific
Management Of Doggys.  <{) ; ~ ) >

"...all the highest nervous activity, as it manifests
itself in the conditional reflex, consists of a continual
change of these three fundamental processes --
excitation, inhibition and disinhibition,"  Ivan P. Pavlov

"Postitive emotions arising in connection
with the perfection of a skill, irrespective
of its pragmatic significance at a given
moment, serve as the reinforcement. IOW,
emotions, not outside rewards, are what
reinforces any behavior," Ivan Pavlov.

"All animals learn best through play." -- Konrad Lorenz

"It is NO WONDER that the marked changes in
deviant behavior of children can be achieved
through brief, simple educative routines with
their mothers which modify the mother's social
behaviors shaping the child (Whaler, 1966). Some
clinics have reported ELIMINATION ofthe need for
child THERAPY through changing the clinical emphasis
from clinical to parental HANDLING of the child
(Szrynski 1965).

A large number of cases improved sufficiently after
preliminary contact with parents that NO treatment
of children was required, and almost ALL cases
SHOWE a remarkably shortened period for therapy.
Quite severe cases of anorexia nervosa have been
treated in own to five months by simply REPLACING
the parents temporarily with EFFUSIVELY LOVING
SUBSTITUTES (Groen, 1966)."

"He's becoming a little S.O.B lately, I wonder sometimes if it's
because
he's mad at me....He yells(meows loud) at me, gets my attention and
hikes up in the corner......Little pest.........:0)
A dysfunctional cat!! Gaaaaaaaaaawd......... "

You RAISED HIM, ByTor. FIGGER IT HOWET:

                         A DOG Is A Dog;
                       As A KAT Is A KAT;
                   As A BIRDY Is A BIRDY;
                   As A HORSE Is A HORSE;
                    As A CHILD IS A CHILD;
            As A SP-HOWES Is a SP-HOWES;
         As A Mass Murderer Is A Mass Murderer.

                 ALL Critters Only Respond In
       PREDICTABLE INNATE NORMAL NATURAL
               INSTINCTIVE REFLEXIVE Ways;
   To Situations And Circumstances Of Their Environment
                Which We Create For Them.

             You GET The Critter You TRAINED

       In The Problem Animal Behavior BUSINESS
                  FAILURE MEANS DEATH.
                  SAME SAME SAME SAME,
      For The Problem Child Behavior BUSINESS.

The Methods, Principles And Philosophy Of Behavior
                     Never Change,
            Or They'd Not Be Scientific
                And Could Not Obtain
 Consistent, Reliable, Fast, Safe Effective Results
        For All Handler's And All Critters
                 And ALL Behaviors
     ALL OVER THE WHOWEL WILD WORLD,
                NEARLY INSTANTLY,
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Anti_BS_Patrol - 12 Jun 2006 12:18 GMT
> >From The Annals Of Human_And_Animal_Behavior_Forensic_Sciences_
>                                       Research_Laboratory
>
> Subject:                     Twelve Steps, Twelve Traditions

Do we have a little problem with the Booze Jerry?  Is that where you are
stealing your material from now?
The_Insanely_Freakin_Simply_Amazing_Grand_Puppy_Wizard_@HotMail.Com - 12 Jun 2006 13:56 GMT
HOWEDY Anti_BS_Patrol,

> > >From The Annals Of Human_And_Animal_Behavior_Forensic_Sciences_
> >                                       Research_Laboratory
> >
> > Subject:                     Twelve Steps, Twelve Traditions

Pretty good STUFF, eh Anti_BS_Patrol <{) ; ~ )  >

> Do we have a little problem with the Booze Jerry?

You mean The Incredibly Insanely Freakin Simply Amazing Grand
Puppy And Pussy Wizard, Anti_BS_Patrol <{) ; ~ )  >

Naaah. EveryWON knows The Incredibly Insanely Freakin Simply
Amazing Grand Puppy And Pussy Wizard DOES NOT indulge in
mind altering psychotropic substances <{) : ~ ) >

>   Is that where you are stealing your material from now?

HOWER pathetic multi substance abuser lyin animal abusin
mental case pal tarag aka tara.green2 SEZ The Incredibly
Insanely Freakin Simply Amazing Grand Puppy And Pussy
Wizard has PLAGIARIZED HIS 100% CONSISTENTLY
NEARLY INSTANTLY SUCCESSFUL FREE WWW Wits'
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whence HE STOLE IT.

She's a vulgar active drunken drug crazed lyin animal abusin
punk thug coward active acute chronic long term incurable
mental case and you're quite welcome to keep her at N.A. or
A.A. or a state run secure mental heelth facility but NOT on
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netabuse.detective@control.central.com - 12 Jun 2006 14:14 GMT
The idiot that spammed this garbage to
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Has been reported to the abuse department at their ISP which is
(Earthlink.net).

On 12 Jun 2006 02:00:35 -0700,
The_Insanely_Freakin_Simply_Amazing_Grand_Puppy_Wizard_@HotMail.Com
wrote:

>>From The Annals Of Human_And_Animal_Behavior_Forensic_Sciences_
The_Insanely_Freakin_Simply_Amazing_Grand_Puppy_Wizard_@HotMail.Com - 12 Jun 2006 14:40 GMT
HOWEDY netabuse.detective you anonymHOWES troll,

netabuse.detect...@control.central.com wrote:
> The idiot that spammed this garbage to
> rec.pets.dogs.behavior,rec.pets.dogs.breeds,alt.cats,alt.recovery.aa,rec.pets.cats.health+behav

THAT'D be The Incredibly Insanely Freakin Simply Amazing Grand Puppy
And Pussy Wizard, netabue.detective, you anonymHOWES coward <{) : ~ ) >

> Has been reported to the abuse department at their ISP which is(Earthlink.net).

That's KINDLY of you, netabuse.detective. Be SHORE to forward them
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> On 12 Jun 2006 02:00:35 -0700,
> The_Insanely_Freakin_Simply_Amazing_Grand_Puppy_Wizard_@HotMail.Com
> wrote:
>
> >>From The Annals Of Human_And_Animal_Behavior_Forensic_Sciences_
 
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