S&M Doggy Sex
                        With tara green, Professional Dog Trainer,
            Liar, Dog Abusing Coward, Active Acute Chronic Long Term
                                Incurable Mental Case <{) ; ~ )  >

HOWEDY tara g aka tara.green2 you multi dimensional
drug crazed drunken pathetic dog abusin psychopath,

                    Research Laboratory

Subject:   HELP my dogs are having S&M sex!

From:  Tara
Date:  Thurs, Jun 19 2003 5:21 pm
Email:   Tara <tara.gre...@verizon.net>
Groups:   rec.pets.dogs

Happynappygory wrote:

Well, you could always spay the female and neuter the male.

Frankly, I think you should start there.....as soon as possible.

Tara
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Talk abHOWET S&M sex, eh tarag aka tara.green2???

Humping when not in heat is an anXXXIHOWESNESS
behavior problem which can be EXXXTINGUISHED
NEARLY INSTANTLY simply by DOIN EVERYTHING
EXXXACTLY PRECISELY OPPOSITE of HOWE you do it

Surgically sexually mutialting them won't stop them from
practicing unsafe sex, caused by anXXXIHOWESNESS
humpin, no MOORE than surgical sexual mutilation CURED
professor dermer's little dog Maxie The Magnificent FuriHOWESLY
Obsessive Compulsive Masturbator from humpin his C-HOWECH
pillows any day he missed his daily five miles of bicycle EXXXORCISE,
tara g, nor will separating them PREVENT conception if the bitch
IS in heat, as the "deed is done" pryor to "GETTIN STUCK".

HOWEver, forcibly SEPARATING them CAN CAUSE DAMAGE
resulting in infection or death of the female.

It's refreshing to see your comprehensive advice, tara.

From:  Tara
Date:  Sun, Jul 6 2003

Groups:   alt.recovery.aa

This was the first ng I was a "regular" in (OMG BUddy,
I've *admitted* it!) and  some of you have had really
powerful, healing and sometimes just plain FUNNY impacts
on my life.

Subject: Getting yet another monky off my back....

From:  Tara
Date:  Mon, Jul 7 2003 2:57 pm
Email:   Tara <tara.gre...@verizon.net>
Groups:   alt.recovery.aa

by getting rid of my computer (yup....I'm really doing it!).

From:  Tara
Date:  Sat, Jul 5 2003

Today, some errands, some shopping (might get a
laptop and a new oven.....yikes!), and some playing.

Nice balance.

Enjoy ernie.

Tara

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Looks like RECOVERY has only further CONfHOWENDED you, eh tara?

HOWEver, your alleged self proclaimed "recovery" AIN'T The Insanely
Freakin Simply Amazing Grand Puppy Wizard's objective or interests.

HERE'S HOWE COME YOU CAN'T POST HERE abHOWETS
nodoGdameneDMOORE, you miserable lyin dog abusing mental
case:

Subject: MacKenzie's First Pinch Collar Class

First of all, I was referencing a totally DIFFERENT
discussion/debate that we had participated in. One
that *I* thought contained little to no ill will at
all.

The one you seem to be re-experiencing here had nothing
to do with the debate on collar corrections, which is
what I referenced in this thread to Leah.

And I ONLY brought up that debate (and I meant it in a
light hearted manner) to point out to Leah just how
*wrong* she was about my stance on prong corrections.

That was NOT at all the same argument you are referring to.

We had a separate debate (one that never got weird at all,
IMO) that was simply about whether or not corrections could
or should be used on the prong.

The argument you are referring to was concerning the relative
damage that could be done by prongs as compared to GLs.

Different thread, different subject. Different time frame.

And no, I haven't referenced that one at all.

No, as I said, that was an entirely *different* discussion
altogether.  Didn't even happen at the same time.

I was being silly and dramatic about our "battle" (I was
trying to point out to Leah that I've even gone to battle
*for* the use of prong collar corrections - if done properly -
since she was dismissing out of hand my opinion under a very
misguided assumption on her part), but we DID have a lengthy
discussion (see above cuz I'm not about to rehash the rehash)
about the use of corrections with prong collars. THAT was the
discussion, the ONLY discussion, I was referring to.

No, it isn't Sarah. I was NOT referencing that thread that
*is* clearly still bothering you. The one you are referencing,

I am not at all aware of ever referencing once....ever. In fact,
I stopped reading it as I *was* getting annoyed. That way, it
stopped bothering me, and frankly I hadn't thought of it until
reading *this* post of yours.

So far, the only one who keeps referencing it is you. If it
does bother you, then I suggest that you *do* email me as this
seems to be bleeding out into inappropriate threads that frankly
have nothing to do with it.

rom:  Tara
Date:  Sat, Jun 28 2003 2:52 pm
Email:   Tara <tara.gre...@verizon.net>
Groups:   rec.pets.dogs.behavior

Jerry Howe wrote:

And THAT my friends is a lie. You have posted anonymously,
and you've laughed behind the scenes about doing it. To
perpetuate this lie is just adding more lies to the mix.

So it seems you're not just playing with the truth and warping
reality to suit your needs, you're also an out and out liar as well.

Not that I'm surprised.

Tara

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Here's your PAL sarah sinofabitch, janet's PARTNER,
whom you AGREE with abHOWET HURTIN DOGS
an LYIN abHOWET IT:

"The actual quote is misleading when taken out of context"

sinofabitch writes:

Of curse. QUOTED. You wanna see it in context?

No. There was WON DIRECT QUOTE.

"Neatly," and "Smartly."

"sinofabitch" instead of sionnach.

INDEEDY. That's HOWE COME you deny it.

That so?

We'd been talkin abHOWET beatin the dog with a shoe...

The WON sinofabitch totally DENIES.

Only if you're a MENTAL CASE.

Here's Jerry's version

"I Dropped The Leash, Threw My
Right Arm Over The Lab's Shoulder,
Grabbed Her Opposite Foot With My
Left Hand, Rolled Her On Her Side,
Leaned On Her, Smartly Growled Into
Her Throat And Said "GRRRR!" And
Neatly Nipped Her Ear," sinofabitch.

 Here's yours:

"I dropped the leash, threw my
right arm over the Lab's shoulder,
grabbed her opposite foot with my
left hand, rolled her on her side,
leaned on her, said "GRRRR!" and
nipped her ear.
--Sara Sionnach

"The actual quote is misleading when taken out of context"

See?

From:  Tara
Date:  Wed, Jun 18 2003 5:51 pm
Email:   Tara <tara.gre...@verizon.net>
Groups:   rec.pets.dogs.behavior

Holier Than Thou aka BINACA bethFIST wrote:

Extremely different, I would think.

Tara

Holier Than Thou aka BINACA bethFIST wrote:

I dont' jerk or choke my dog (the little one is too little
yet for a pinch collar).  They simply wear pinch collars.

It prevents any jerking or choking on their part.

I do crate my dogs - the big one only at the dog club and
to travel, and the little one so he can become accustomed
to being in a crate.

He is learning to enjoy it and to use it as a place
to rest  from the playing that he and Kavik do
.
I used binaca to quiet Kavik's in class
whining that disturbed the class.

It would be quite difficult to binaca a dog that is in a crate.

I did hit him in the eye accidentally, and stopped using
it at that time.  Jerry, have you NEVER made an error in
training the dogs you have trained?

How many dogs have you trained exactly? Can you list some
references here - I would like to contact some of your
former clients to get a reference or two?

     "BethF" <b...@NOT-SO-bad-dawgs-in-ak.com>
     wrote in message
     news:v4r8kkfr257e1a@corp.supernews.com...

     Kyle,  FWIW, i thought it was pretty funny,
     and i often call my little dog the turd, because
     he is one. Some folks think its HORRRIBLE i
     would insult my dog like that so i guess its just a
     matter of personality.

     Kyle, the best way to teach him to stay away is to
     step on him once. Seriously.

"Whatever Motivates The Dog, But I Daresay Most
Of The Dogs I Have In Classes Just Aren't That
Interested In Praise."

"BethF" <d...@alaska.com> wrote in message
news:uohnj3r4a4e85e@corp.supernews.com...

Maybe that's what we should do - hold back the
dobie girl so that Izzy can put Simon in his place.

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Here's Canis55 before he developed wet brain and
turned into DEAMONCHILD666:

From: "jace" <thurstonhow...@excite.com>
To: "Jerry Howe" <jho...@bellsouth.net>
Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2001 2:14 PM
Subject: Re: eagle has landed

Perhaps you should CON-FINE your postin to AA, tara?
That way your ONLY ADVICE will be tellin fols not to
drink and you can your YOUR OWN POSTED CASE HISTORY
as a EXXXAMPLE of HOWE COME they should refrain.

Yours,

The Insanely Freakin Simply Amazing Grand Puppy Wizard <{); ~ ) >

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 From:  Dimpled Chad
Date:  Fri, Jun 6 2003 11:56 am
Email:   Dimpled Chad <dimpl...@hotmail.com>

On 06 Jun 2003, Paul B opined:

This has been tossed around so many times over the years, but this is
perhaps
the most common objection or support for what passes as a purely
positive
method. I wonder if people would like to comment on this specific
issue, besides
the rather grotesque matter of Paul willing to taunt someone who just
lost their dog.

There seem to my amateur eye two fundamental problems with the above:
(a) the
incorrect characterization of "methods that use aids" and (b) the WETM
or
other methods that "can train dogs without any aids".

In short, and without being comprehensive, (b) is incorrect, in that
the WETM
does use aids (a can with pennies or other sound distraction device)
that
provides an aversive (the sound) that is admittingly different than a
physical correction, but is nevertheless something added to the
training
process. Further, there are debates about whether your generalization
of
better training with this method is in fact correct. Finally, many here

suggest distraction and praise techniques all over the place.

In addition, (a) covers a wide and various collection of techniques
that I
believe you've incorrectly described and even more inaccurately
attributed to
people here, demonstrating that you either haven't read or deliberately

mischaracterize how the various methods (from clicker to NILIF to use
of
collars [and you left out flat colors]) are being offered.

These have widely been discussed here. Maybe its not worth it to recap,

except to say that you've misrepresented what is offered by people
here. That
everyone uses aids but Jerry does not, or that everyone abuses their
dogs or
shocks/jurks/chokes their dogs but Jerry does not, is just a flat out
lie.

Chad

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          chad CRIPPLED his dog by jerking and chokin IT