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Janna - 08 Jun 2006 03:51 GMT Ok, so if Iams and Science Diet are not the greatest thing to feed your cat, then recommend a food you prefer. Open to any & all suggestions.
Janna
TaliesinSoft - 08 Jun 2006 04:12 GMT > Ok, so if Iams and Science Diet are not the greatest thing to feed your > cat, then recommend a food you prefer. Open to any & all suggestions. Today I happened to be in a PetSmart and was in a register line behind an exceptionally obese woman who was nattering on with the person in front of her about the importance of good nutrition as far as one's cat is concerned. This while she downed three large candy bars!
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klbr88 - 08 Jun 2006 06:58 GMT i use nutro max cat - good food - no by-products....
> Ok, so if Iams and Science Diet are not the greatest thing > to feed your cat, then recommend a food you prefer. > Open to any & all suggestions. > > Janna Barnabas Collins - 08 Jun 2006 21:51 GMT >i use nutro max cat - good food - no by-products.... > >> Ok, so if Iams and Science Diet are not the greatest thing >> to feed your cat, then recommend a food you prefer. >> Open to any & all suggestions. I use Iams. Also around here Iams is cheaper at the supermarket.
Professor - 09 Jun 2006 04:04 GMT >>i use nutro max cat - good food - no by-products.... >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > I use Iams. Also around here Iams is cheaper at the > supermarket. Iams sucks nutritionally, and the company sucks too. It is a part of Proctor and Gamble, one of the most evil corporations in the world. They routinely torture animals, it has been well documented. Proctor and Gamble two years ago paid the largest fine in US history for corporate espionage. Remember when the executives behind Folgers coffee were exposed as directing death squads in Columbia? Same bunch. There are foods much better for your cat than Iams, and you shouldn't be supporting a vicious empire.
Barnabas Collins - 09 Jun 2006 21:48 GMT >Iams sucks nutritionally, and the company sucks too. It is a part of >Proctor and Gamble, one of the most evil corporations in the world. And if you eliminated all the evil corporaions you'd be speding all your waking hours growing/preaparing your own food for your cat.
You wouldn't even have time to pet the cat.
>They >routinely torture animals, it has been well documented. Proctor and Gamble >two years ago paid the largest fine in US history for corporate espionage. Here is a clue: every corporation does it. You show me a corporation that says they don't and i'll show you a corporation who is flat out lying.
>Remember when the executives behind Folgers coffee were exposed as directing >death squads in Columbia? Same bunch. There are foods much better for your >cat than Iams, and you shouldn't be supporting a vicious empire. You have a url for this?
~*Connie*~ - 10 Jun 2006 03:10 GMT >>Iams sucks nutritionally, and the company sucks too. It is a part of >>Proctor and Gamble, one of the most evil corporations in the world. > And if you eliminated all the evil corporaions you'd be speding all > your waking hours growing/preaparing your own food for your cat. > > You wouldn't even have time to pet the cat. Um.. I make my own food for SIX cats. Takes about an hour a week..
And Iams and SD are pretty horrid cat foods. The only reason SD is so popular is because they give their food away to vets. The mark up is HUGE, so there for that is what they carry, and what they recommend. Also vets have minimal training on nutrition, (about two hours from what I was told) and it is usually done by Iams or SD.. so gee.. wonder what they are going to learn.
Barnabas Collins - 10 Jun 2006 05:07 GMT >Um.. I make my own food for SIX cats. Takes about an hour a week.. Before you go slamming Science Diet and IAMS, take a good hard look at the food you get in the supermarket to prepare the food on you own. After a good hard look not only will you stop feeding it to your cats you'll stop eating it yourself.
Pay particular attention to how many parts per million of contaminants are allowed by law.
Don't forget all the salmonila that occurs in food.
Professor - 10 Jun 2006 16:41 GMT >>Iams sucks nutritionally, and the company sucks too. It is a part of >>Proctor and Gamble, one of the most evil corporations in the world. [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] >>cat than Iams, and you shouldn't be supporting a vicious empire. > You have a url for this? http://www.iamscruelty.com/
http://www.uncaged.co.uk/iams.htm
http://www.moggies.co.uk/html/iams.html
http://www.iamskills.com/
Here you can learn about the connection between Folgers and death squads in El Salvador(not Columbia, my bad):
http://www.afsc.org/newengland/bigcat/tpc.php?TID=008&page=3&perpage=10
Here is what Proctor and Gamble had to do once the connection was made:
http://tinyurl.com/l5yv4
Barnabas Collins - 10 Jun 2006 19:11 GMT >>>Iams sucks nutritionally, and the company sucks too. It is a part of >>>Proctor and Gamble, one of the most evil corporations in the world. [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > >http://tinyurl.com/l5yv4 Here is a list of corporations who are not corrupt/morally bankrupt/etc.:
{Deliberately left blank since they're all just as bad.}
Professor - 10 Jun 2006 23:23 GMT >>>>Iams sucks nutritionally, and the company sucks too. It is a part of >>>>Proctor and Gamble, one of the most evil corporations in the world. [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] > > {Deliberately left blank since they're all just as bad.} I suspect you're defending Proctor and Gamble only because you're sitting on a big bag of Iams. Next time try Royal Canin, whichever kind is best for your cat. They make several kinds based on the breed of your cat(s). I have Oriental Shorthairs so their Siamese formula is ideal for mine.
Barnabas Collins - 11 Jun 2006 04:41 GMT >I suspect you're defending Proctor and Gamble only because you're sitting on >a big bag of Iams. Next time try Royal Canin, whichever kind is best for >your cat. They make several kinds based on the breed of your cat(s). I >have Oriental Shorthairs so their Siamese formula is ideal for mine. No I'm not. I'm saying if you're looking for a corporation that isn't morrally bankrupt you'll never ever find it. They're all corrupt/morrally bankrupt.
And all the food you buy is thoroughly conataminated by all sorts of junk. And even if you grow it youself it will be conatminated by all the junk in the air and in the ground.
Professor - 11 Jun 2006 15:04 GMT >>I suspect you're defending Proctor and Gamble only because you're sitting >>on [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > it will be conatminated by all the junk in the air > and in the ground. I agree with you that corporations are inherently evil and organic produce is better, but you're avoiding the topic. The question is what are the better/best cat foods, and I say Iams sucks. I propose that Royal Canin is a better alternative, now it's you're turn to tell me where I'm wrong.
Barnabas Collins - 11 Jun 2006 17:03 GMT >I agree with you that corporations are inherently evil and organic produce >is better, but you're avoiding the topic. The question is what are the >better/best cat foods, and I say Iams sucks. I propose that Royal Canin is >a better alternative, now it's you're turn to tell me where I'm wrong. Have never tried Royal Canin. Not familiar with it, the nearest retailer is two hours away with no traffic. (You're probably talking four hours with traffic to the cape in the summer).
And shipping would probably be outrageous.
I don't have a better alternative, but i'm saying that organic is not an alternative until they clean up the ground/the water/the air.
In the meantime my cats are special prescription food from the vet.
Barnabas Collins - 11 Jun 2006 17:40 GMT >I agree with you that corporations are inherently evil and organic produce >is better, but you're avoiding the topic. The question is what are the >better/best cat foods, and I say Iams sucks. I propose that Royal Canin is >a better alternative, now it's you're turn to tell me where I'm wrong. Erik - 13 Jun 2006 18:41 GMT I think Royal Canin is one of the best in the world, but every animal has it's own needs and taste so you could better listen to the vet and try some samples he or she gives you (btw, no, I'm not working for Royal Canin)
>>>I suspect you're defending Proctor and Gamble only because you're sitting >>>on [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > better/best cat foods, and I say Iams sucks. I propose that Royal Canin > is a better alternative, now it's you're turn to tell me where I'm wrong. Barnabas Collins - 14 Jun 2006 03:08 GMT >I think Royal Canin is one of the best in the world, but every animal has >it's own needs and taste so you could better listen to the vet and try some >samples he or she gives you >(btw, no, I'm not working for Royal Canin) Hey it may be the best brand on the planet but I refuse to drive two hours to get it. (Four hours + on Thursay, Friday and Saturday during the summer.)
And shipping would choke a horse.
Erik - 14 Jun 2006 11:22 GMT of course -even when it may be the best brand in the universe-, that's why I say just to listen to the advice of the vet...
>>I think Royal Canin is one of the best in the world, but every animal has >>it's own needs and taste so you could better listen to the vet and try [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption > =---- Professor - 14 Jun 2006 20:24 GMT >>I think Royal Canin is one of the best in the world, but every animal has >>it's own needs and taste so you could better listen to the vet and try [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > And shipping would choke a horse. I have a bag shipped to me every 2-3 months. The cost isn't much, look it up and see for yourself. If you're feeding your cats perscription food then you're already paying a fortune.
Barnabas Collins - 15 Jun 2006 15:46 GMT >>>I think Royal Canin is one of the best in the world, but every animal has >>>it's own needs and taste so you could better listen to the vet and try [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >and see for yourself. If you're feeding your cats perscription food then >you're already paying a fortune. I don't need to look it up. I ship UPS for my business, I know how much it costs to ship a 25 pound pacakage (here is a hint: it's alot cheaper than what the vendor will charge.)
~*Connie*~ - 10 Jun 2006 03:28 GMT > Ok, so if Iams and Science Diet are not the greatest thing > to feed your cat, then recommend a food you prefer. > Open to any & all suggestions. > > Janna Every cat is different.. but they are all carnivores.. so anything that is meat based (first ingredient is a meat, not a byproduct or corn) is on the good side.
Having a diabetic cat, I researched foods pretty extensively. Most companies put in fillers of one sort or another. If it isn't by products, its vegetables. Cats don't need veggies. Don't often find them chowing down in a corn field (well except on the mice)
It is recommended you find a low carb, good quality protein food with out fillers and wheat gluten. Most varieties of cat food have some flavors that fit this profile.
I currently make my own cat food from the recipe at catinfo.org. (vet owned, and operated) Takes me a couple hours a month for six cats... well technically five since my diabetic refuses to eat it.. (which is too bad, cause I could get her off insulin if she would have continued)
For her, I am feeding Innova Evo canned. Canned food is preferable since it is naturally lower in carbs (they have to add carbs to dry food ) and it gives the cats the required moisture since they don't have a high thirst drive (again see catinfo.org) Also , the whole dry food helping their teeth is a huge myth. Too many cats have miserably horrible teeth because they are on dry food. (cause many have horrid teeth on wet food too. They need to chew and rip at their food for a good cleaning, but regardless, teeth cleaning is necessary)
Recommended reading.. http://www.catinfo.org/ http://www.catinfo.org/commercialcannedfoods.htm http://www.felinediabetes.com/diabetic-cat-diets.htm http://www.truecarnivores.com/catseat.shtml
(then there is the prey model of feeding that is gaining ground.. just feeding whole carcasses to cats.. Pretty interesting, but I couldn't get my cats involved.. Google should have a lot of info on it.)
Lisa - 15 Jun 2006 00:46 GMT I feet mine a mix of Nutro Max Cat and Innova Evo. They didn't like Royal Canin.
They also get canned Fancy Feast, because they love it.
Lisa.... :-) Owned by Birmans -- the Sacred Cat of Burma
> Ok, so if Iams and Science Diet are not the greatest thing > to feed your cat, then recommend a food you prefer. > Open to any & all suggestions. > > Janna rgo90 - 15 Jun 2006 07:40 GMT Hi Janna First check the corn products ratio in the food. Better foods like Kitchen soup for the cat lovers soul, Finidades, and Nutro complete, have minimal corn products. Corn is bad. Most big commercial brands are loaded with corn. Try to minimize it as much as possible for a healthier cat. rg
>Ok, so if Iams and Science Diet are not the greatest thing >to feed your cat, then recommend a food you prefer. >Open to any & all suggestions. > >Janna Creweser - 15 Jun 2006 15:02 GMT > Ok, so if Iams and Science Diet are not the greatest thing > to feed your cat, then recommend a food you prefer. > Open to any & all suggestions. > > Janna Flint River Ranch..the very best..check it out.
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