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AKA Gray Asphalt - 06 Jun 2006 06:52 GMT how many cat boxes? What kind of litter do you use and how often do you clean and how often do you change the litter? Answer some of the questions if you don't feel like answering all.
Thanks, I'm trying to invent an easier way to clean boxes for people like me that have quite a few. So far it's going well.
mjoann - 06 Jun 2006 07:30 GMT > how many cat boxes? What kind of litter do you use and how often do you > clean and how often do you change the litter? [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > I'm trying to invent an easier way to clean boxes for people like me that > have quite a few. So far it's going well. We have five cats and five boxes. It should be six boxes, but we're out of places to put them! We don't buy litter, we use pine pellets (for wood stoves). We used to buy fancy pine cat litter for $10 a small bag, now we get pine pellets for $3 a 50 lb bag. Clumps are removed several times a day (usually after a cat goes) and the entire boxes emptied every few days.
As an added bonus, the cats LOVE to bat their litter around ;)
mjoann
Barnabas Collins - 06 Jun 2006 19:27 GMT >We have five cats and five boxes. It should be six boxes, but we're out >of places to put them! We don't buy litter, we use pine pellets (for [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >mjoann I tried the pine pellets. The cat would not use it. The experiment failed.
wester@laway.net - 06 Jun 2006 23:21 GMT >> how many cat boxes? What kind of litter do you use and how often do you >> clean and how often do you change the litter? [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >> I'm trying to invent an easier way to clean boxes for people like me that >> have quite a few. So far it's going well. Two and two. I use a combo of Feline Pine (no dust, hah!) and Arm & Hammer. I change the boxes completely every 10 days or so.
I hope you can find a better way!
TaliesinSoft - 06 Jun 2006 13:17 GMT > how many cat boxes? What kind of litter do you use and how often do you > clean and how often do you change the litter? Answer some of the questions > if you don't feel like answering all. > > Thanks, I'm trying to invent an easier way to clean boxes for people like > me that have quite a few. So far it's going well. I am currently using the litter box from Omega Paw that is cleaned just by rolling it over and back which causes all of the lumps to be placed in a tray that can be quickly removed, emptied, and replaced. I typically go through the cleaning twice a day and it takes maybe 30 seconds. I find that once a week I add an amount of litter to replace that which has been removed. The Omega Paw litter boxes come in two sizes and the prices are in the $30 to $40 range.
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Beth - 06 Jun 2006 13:45 GMT > how many cat boxes? What kind of litter do you use and how often do you > clean and how often do you change the litter? [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > I'm trying to invent an easier way to clean boxes for people like me that > have quite a few. So far it's going well. Well, I only have one cat, but I like my system! I have a covered litter box and I use Tidy Cats Multiple Cats Scoopable litter. I have an apartment and the litterbox is in a small space, but I can never smell it when I go into the room it's in. Also, I use the sifting bags. They are awesome! They come in a set of 10 and I remove one bag to sift everything out and leave most of the litter once every two or three days. Then I put a little more litter on top of the litter that was left. The last bag is just a regular plastic bag, so it makes it easy to clean up because I just throw all of the litter away using the last bag. I'd try them. They're pretty good and cheap, only about $2 or $3 a box.
Beth
Magic Mood Jeep© - 06 Jun 2006 18:31 GMT >> how many cat boxes? What kind of litter do you use and how often do >> you clean and how often do you change the litter? [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > and cheap, only about $2 or $3 a box. > Beth We can't use any kind of bags - our cats shred them! We have some cats that are poop-n-run (they are the ones with the smelliest poop, too, so I don't blame them) and some that are diggers
Barnabas Collins - 06 Jun 2006 19:30 GMT >>> how many cat boxes? What kind of litter do you use and how often do >>> you clean and how often do you change the litter? [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] >are poop-n-run (they are the ones with the smelliest poop, too, so I don't >blame them) and some that are diggers I would add cats some cats like plastic bags because they use fish and sometimes the fish smell remains.
Beth - 06 Jun 2006 19:33 GMT >>> how many cat boxes? What kind of litter do you use and how often do >>> you clean and how often do you change the litter? [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > that are poop-n-run (they are the ones with the smelliest poop, too, so I > don't blame them) and some that are diggers My cat doesn't seem to notice the sifting litter bags. She gets in, goes, and comes out. Even though they hang over the side, she never plays with them. Now, grocery bags...that's a whole other story!
Barnabas Collins - 06 Jun 2006 19:23 GMT >how many cat boxes? What kind of litter do you use and how often do you >clean and how often do you change the litter? [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >I'm trying to invent an easier way to clean boxes for people like me that >have quite a few. So far it's going well. How many boxes? # of cats + 1. How to invent am easier to clean the box? Not like that peice of junk the littermaid.
Litter: arm and hammer clumping.
Ted Davis - 06 Jun 2006 21:20 GMT >how many cat boxes? What kind of litter do you use and how often do you >clean and how often do you change the litter? [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >I'm trying to invent an easier way to clean boxes for people like me that >have quite a few. So far it's going well. Twelve cats (officially). Four boxes scooped twice a week whether they need it or not ... but that doesn't count the big one: the great outside through the 24/7 cat flap (nearly all of my cats had been living entirely outside when I got them, or live mostly outside now - their choice).
The pans are the ones with lift out sieves - I'm not totally satisified, but they are not as bad as some. Litter is usually A&H clumping, but I'm still looking for something unsented that I can get locally and can afford.
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AKA Gray Asphalt - 07 Jun 2006 07:10 GMT I like the Arm & Hammer too. It was on sale at Von's (formerly Safeway) for $6/21 lb. but after order quite a bit, I tried the Special Kitty and liked it a lot. It seems finder and easier to scoop.
One thing strange for us, is that after I bought some high sided storage things, that should have kept the poop inside, the cats started scratching at the walls and actually knocked quite a bit of poop on to the walls.
My inventing attempts are coming along pretty well, but we have 10 boxes (lots of rescue kittens) and even though, so far it helps me a lot, I'm not sure if it will help most of us who have fewer boxes, but maybe. : -)
>>how many cat boxes? What kind of litter do you use and how often do you >>clean and how often do you change the litter? [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > clumping, but I'm still looking for something unsented that I can get > locally and can afford. AKA Gray Asphalt - 09 Jun 2006 23:09 GMT The sieve kind are similar to what I'm working on. What is it about the ones you have that you don't like? My idea is getting so simple and effective that it might end up being a how-to-build your own guide instead of a product. I tried the seive kind but didn't like it very much but honestly, I can't remember why. Thanks, if you do respond to what you don't like about it.
Are others using or have others tried the sieve things?
>>how many cat boxes? What kind of litter do you use and how often do you >>clean and how often do you change the litter? [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > clumping, but I'm still looking for something unsented that I can get > locally and can afford. Ted Davis - 10 Jun 2006 03:09 GMT >The sieve kind are similar to what I'm working on. What is it about the ones >you have that you don't like? My idea is getting so simple and effective >that it might end up being a how-to-build your own guide instead of a >product. I tried the seive kind but didn't like it very much but honestly, I >can't remember why. Thanks, if you do respond to what you don't like about >it. The pee lumps stick in the holes and are almost impossible to remove without a pressure washer. I knock off as much as possible by banging the sieve on the edge of the trash can (which scatters it all over), or in severe cases, against a fence post outside, then rinse off as much as possible with a garden hose and nozzle (with hot water). Finally I soak them in hot ammonia water for at least half an hour before rinsing off.
I think there would be little or no problem if the sieve had no-stick sidewalls and the pan held litter at least eight inches deep, but I couldn't lift that to dump into the sieve in a new pan after sieving.
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AKA Gray Asphalt - 11 Jun 2006 23:53 GMT >>The sieve kind are similar to what I'm working on. What is it about the >>ones [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > sidewalls and the pan held litter at least eight inches deep, but I > couldn't lift that to dump into the sieve in a new pan after sieving. Thanks. That's one of the problems I'm dealing with today on my 'invention'. If fact, less than an hour ago. I think I've got it whipped but I won't know until tomorrow. Thanks so much, really.
TaliesinSoft - 10 Jun 2006 03:47 GMT > Are others using or have others tried the sieve things? As I posted elsewhere in this thread I am using an Omega Paw litter box. To remove the waste matter all one has to do is roll the box until it is upside down and then roll it back. After doing that all of the waste is in a removable tray and the remaining clean litter is where it can be used by the cat or cats. The contents of the tray can then be easily disposed of. If the whole process takes more than 30 seconds you are doing something wrong!
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Beth - 11 Jun 2006 16:30 GMT >> Are others using or have others tried the sieve things? Seriously....the sifting litter bags are the most simple and easy to use things I've ever seen for a litter box. You can use them with any box. They're meant for traditional square boxes, but I have an "igloo" brand box and the litter portion is in a half moon shape due to the steps going up on the other side. The bags work fine. There is a set of ten you you just lift out one every couple of days and boom...you're ready to go with fresh litter in about 5 seconds.
TaliesinSoft - 11 Jun 2006 18:05 GMT > Seriously....the sifting litter bags are the most simple and easy to use > things I've ever seen for a litter box. You can use them with any box. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > just lift out one every couple of days and boom...you're ready to go with > fresh litter in about 5 seconds. Continuing in this thread.....
A quick internet search suggests that the sifting bags cost in the range of $10 for 30 bags. That suggests that if you clean the litter box at least once per day that the annual cost will be approximately $120 per year. That's what it would cost to buy 3 Omega Paw easy cleaning litter boxes. As I mentioned previously it takes just a few seconds to tip the Omega Paw over and back, after which the waste matter is all in a scoop which can then be easily emptied into the trash. I should also point out that the Omega Paw litter boxes are covered, removing the unsightliness of an open litterbox.
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Beth - 11 Jun 2006 20:36 GMT >> Seriously....the sifting litter bags are the most simple and easy to use >> things I've ever seen for a litter box. You can use them with any box. [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > easily emptied into the trash. I should also point out that the Omega Paw > litter boxes are covered, removing the unsightliness of an open litterbox. You need to search better :) I get mine at meijer or kroger for $2-$3 for a set of 10. I can't imagine trying to fit a set of 30 bags into my litter box, so I have no idea where you've been looking. 10 fit well though. Here's a link to show them. They're Tidy Cats and are no where near $30. I prefer not to mess with the litter at all. I pick up the bag and throw it away.
http://www.tidycats.com/GetPage.aspx?ContentID=112
Beth - 11 Jun 2006 20:44 GMT >>> Seriously....the sifting litter bags are the most simple and easy to use >>> things I've ever seen for a litter box. You can use them with any [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > > http://www.tidycats.com/GetPage.aspx?ContentID=112 After reading the previous post again, I see that you were saying they cost about $10 for 30 which gave a large amount of money per year if you clean daily. There's no need to clean it daily with these. My cat does a nice job of covering everything up as I have deep litter with the shape of my litter box. I sift it 1 to 2 times a week and have no problems with odor or the cat refusing to use the box. When I check it, I don't see anything because she covers it well. I clean it when I start to see waste that isn't covered well. So, I buy 1 to 2 boxes a month.
Magic Mood Jeep© - 11 Jun 2006 21:25 GMT >>>> Seriously....the sifting litter bags are the most simple and easy >>>> to use things I've ever seen for a litter box. You can use them [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] > well. I clean it when I start to see waste that isn't covered well. So, I > buy 1 to 2 boxes a month. And I love the comment on their web site "works best with declawed cats".
Beth - 11 Jun 2006 22:16 GMT >>>>> Seriously....the sifting litter bags are the most simple and easy >>>>> to use things I've ever seen for a litter box. You can use them [quoted text clipped - 47 lines] > > And I love the comment on their web site "works best with declawed cats". My cat has claws and she rarely breaks the bag. It's just a matter of personal preference. Personally, I like the litterbox I have and don't feel like spending money on a new one. I like the bags for numerous reasons. One being the ease of cleaning out the used litter, another being that when I want to completely clean the box, I just lift out the last bag, which is a regular bag and then I can wash the box. It's just what I like and I'm not spending any amount of money on a new litter box. This is a nice alternative to doing that for me. I like it, I'm using it, and spending $6 a month for the bags isn't an issue for me.
TaliesinSoft - 11 Jun 2006 21:31 GMT [continuing onward in the sifting litter bag thread]
> After reading the previous post again, I see that you were saying they cost > about $10 for 30 which gave a large amount of money per year if you clean [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > because she covers it well. I clean it when I start to see waste that isn't > covered well. So, I buy 1 to 2 boxes a month. At 1 1/2 bag changings a week, and at a cost of $3 for ten bags, that comes to an approximate $24 per year. With the Omega Paw litter box I have the benefit of cleaning the box as frequently as I feel necessary (for me that is no less than once a day) at no cost over and above the litter itself and the initial cost of the Omega Paw.
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TaliesinSoft - 11 Jun 2006 21:26 GMT [continuing the sifting litter bag thread]
> You need to search better :) I get mine at meijer or kroger for $2-$3 for a > set of 10. I can't imagine trying to fit a set of 30 bags into my litter > box, so I have no idea where you've been looking. 10 fit well though. > Here's a link to show them. They're Tidy Cats and are no where near $30. I > prefer not to mess with the litter at all. I pick up the bag and throw it > away. Actually $3 for ten bags is close to the $10 for thirty bags which I cited in my prior posting in this thread. I have no idea if that package of thirty bags requires them all to be placed in the box at one time. As I mentioned in my prior posting the Omega Paw box empties the litter into a scoop which is easily transported to the trash and then replaced for the next use. There is no "messing" with the litter.
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AKA Gray Asphalt - 11 Jun 2006 23:57 GMT >>> Are others using or have others tried the sieve things? > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > just lift out one every couple of days and boom...you're ready to go with > fresh litter in about 5 seconds. I didn't like them because they don't really fit over my slightly oversize boxes and some of my boxes are really large. They cost about 1$/ each, no?
Beth - 12 Jun 2006 02:54 GMT >>>> Are others using or have others tried the sieve things? >> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > I didn't like them because they don't really fit over my slightly oversize > boxes and some of my boxes are really large. They cost about 1$/ each, no? They say how large of a box they fit. I imagine they fit most boxes, but I don't know how big yours are. But no, they cost about $2-$3 for a box of 10. There are ten sifting liners and the last one is just a regular liner so that you can use it to throw away all of the old litter away when you are done with it.
AKA Gray Asphalt - 13 Jun 2006 08:08 GMT >>>>> Are others using or have others tried the sieve things? >>> [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > liner so that you can use it to throw away all of the old litter away when > you are done with it. I still have some in my garage. I use those big plastic storage bins for our cats. I thought that they would be less likely to allow crap to get outside the boxes. I can't say that really worked. They seem to scratch on the sides and we've had poop scooped on to the walls several times. The smallest box we have, which is for taking on trips seems to be the least messy for some reason which I haven't figured out yet.
I should take another look at the sifting litter bags with the right size box. Don't they take quite a while to sift?
Beth - 13 Jun 2006 14:54 GMT >>>>>> Are others using or have others tried the sieve things? >>>> [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > I should take another look at the sifting litter bags with the right size > box. Don't they take quite a while to sift? Maybe you aren't using the same kind I am. Tidy Cats? I have an ingloo shaped box and I pick up the corners of the bag and sift it out in like 5 seconds. It's not hard at all. I'm actually very surprised that no one else on here seems to like them. I absolutely love them. They don't scratch anything. They're thin plastic bags with a weave in the middle of them. They come in a set of ten, you put them all in at once, pour the litter in, and when you need to, you just pick up one bag by all the corners and lift it out. You may need to shake it a little, but it really doesn't take a long time. All of the litter is on top of it so you just lift it out and out comes the litter without the clumps so you can reuse it. I pour a little extra clean litter on top. All in all, I can be done with cleaning the box in just a couple minutes when I include sweeping up any litter that the cat dragged out, sifting, and adding new litter. I don't understand why everyone is so against a little set of plastic sifting liners. They're so easy and cheap!!
AKA Gray Asphalt - 14 Jun 2006 01:00 GMT >>>>>>> Are others using or have others tried the sieve things? >>>>> [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] > don't understand why everyone is so against a little set of plastic > sifting liners. They're so easy and cheap!! Beth, They sound like a good idea and even though I've tried them and didn't like them, I'm going to give them another try. It sure is easier than what I'm trying to do.
But, I have what I think is an interesting question... There seems to be 3 kinds of waste in my cat litter boxes. The normal crap and pee and the kind of something that is really sticky. I'm not sure what it is that makes some, what seems to be crap, so sticky. To my surprise, after spilling some Special Kitty Cat Litter in my driveway and not cleaning it up, a storm hit and the cat litter turned into a sticky mess that is very similar in consistency to what sticks to my cat boxes. I'm wondering if it has something to do with clay and moisture mixing and maybe isn't crap at all.
Here's an experiment that I hope some of you will do. Before you use your regular litter, or any litter, pour it from a distance high enough to allow the wind or if like me you get into this, a fan will blow the fine dust out of the mixture before you use it. I've got a fan about 30" high w/ variable speed and it works great. I'm wondering if that might change what happens to the extremely clumped and sticky waste.
BTW, we've got 10 cat boxes so that's one reason I'm so much interested in this matter. I'm still going to try to justify spendint the $40 for an Omega and I will try the sifters again, with Arm & Hammer and the other one that I have.
Thanks for helping. I hope we can find a better solution for all of us cat owners, oops cat owned.
: -) AKA Gray Asphalt - 11 Jun 2006 23:56 GMT Don't some of the clumps stick to the bottom of the litter box? Does it bother you that the litter is rolled over the whole inside? It wouldn't bother me but someone else mentioned it. How much do they cost? I think that they might be better than what I'm trying but cost is a factor too. How much waste does the removeable container, contain? How often do you have to wash the unit? Thanks
>> Are others using or have others tried the sieve things? > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > the > whole process takes more than 30 seconds you are doing something wrong! TaliesinSoft - 12 Jun 2006 01:30 GMT [in response to my commenting positively on the Omega Paw litter box]
> Don't some of the clumps stick to the bottom of the litter box? Does it > bother you that the litter is rolled over the whole inside? It wouldn't > bother me but someone else mentioned it. How much do they cost? I think > that they might be better than what I'm trying but cost is a factor too. > How much waste does the removeable container, contain? How often do you > have to wash the unit? I've not experienced a problem with clumps sticking to the bottom. Yes, the litter rolls across the "whole inside" but I've not experienced any clumps or pieces of litter sticking to the surface. The Omega Paw boxes cost around $30 for the small one and $40 for the large ones. The removable scoop, for our one cat, contains fecal droppings with a bit of litter clinging on and urine clusters about the size of a golf ball. The amount in the scoop obviously depends on just how many cats are using the box and how frequently it is emptied. I would expect that one might wash out the unit about once every other month.
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AKA Gray Asphalt - 13 Jun 2006 08:10 GMT > [in response to my commenting positively on the Omega Paw litter box] > [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > emptied. I would expect that one might wash out the unit about once every > other month. How much crap does the receptacle hold? Would you say enough for 3 cats for one day? I mean on the larger size.
TaliesinSoft - 13 Jun 2006 13:58 GMT [querying about the waste removal scoop on the Omega Paw litter box]
> How much crap does the receptacle hold? Would you say enough for 3 cats for > one day? I mean on the larger size. The scoop is roughly 4 inches wide, 12 inches long, and 4 inches deep. I would expect it could easily hold the waste of three cats for a day.
As an aside, I use flushable litter, so I just walk to the toilet with the full scoop and gabloosh, down it goes.
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AKA Gray Asphalt - 14 Jun 2006 01:01 GMT > [querying about the waste removal scoop on the Omega Paw litter box] > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > As an aside, I use flushable litter, so I just walk to the toilet with the > full scoop and gabloosh, down it goes. What brand of flushable litter? I didn't know there was such a thing. Cost? Thanks
TaliesinSoft - 14 Jun 2006 02:36 GMT > What brand of flushable litter? I didn't know there was such a thing. Cost? > Thanks Arm and Hammer Easy Flush Litter -- commonly available for $12.00 for an 18 pound box.
The bulk of the litter I flush are the urine clumps. If there is a lot of litter in the scoop it sometimes takes two flushes, but that second flush is usually to get rid of a small amount of litter that settles in the bottom of the toilet.
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mylenaptalf - 07 Jun 2006 00:54 GMT I have one cat and use the LitterMaid self-cleaning litter box. I end up emptying it about once a week or 10 days.
Jon
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Barnabas Collins - 07 Jun 2006 16:48 GMT >I have one cat and use the LitterMaid self-cleaning litter box. I end >up emptying it about once a week or 10 days. > >Jon > ><a href="http://jon-maxson.ic-nso.com">My Lenaptalf Cat</a> I made the mistake of getting a litter maid a number of years ago. Peace of junk.
~*Connie*~ - 07 Jun 2006 02:28 GMT six cats, three litterboxes in use at the moment (several more regular sized ones not being used)
Now.. when I say three.. I mean one regular sized one and two child wading pools you get for $8.00 at your local mega mart.. (the regular size one is in a separate room for one kitty with special needs)
I use scoopable. I used fresh step, cause I have found it holds together the best when scooping, and since I don't change my entire litter (pretty much) ever, I like that.
I would LIKE them cleaned every couple of days, but since I'm basically allergic to the litter (the dust it kicks up) I leave it up to my husband and mention it needs to be done if its not done every couple of weeks.
My sister has a scoopable cat box that you roll around and the litter sifts through a side thingie, and you just pull the clumps out after you .. well roll it around. They only have one cat, and she goes to that evil outside place, so Im sure she doesn't use the box very much,,
hard to type post with large cat on hands..
> how many cat boxes? What kind of litter do you use and how often do you > clean and how often do you change the litter? [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > I'm trying to invent an easier way to clean boxes for people like me that > have quite a few. So far it's going well. Wayne Boatwright - 08 Jun 2006 06:12 GMT Oh pshaw, on Mon 05 Jun 2006 10:52:46p, AKA Gray Asphalt meant to say...
> how many cat boxes? What kind of litter do you use and how often do you > clean and how often do you change the litter? [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > I'm trying to invent an easier way to clean boxes for people like me that > have quite a few. So far it's going well. We have 5 cats and 3 huge covered litter boxes. Several months ago we began using Arm & Hammer scoopable litter for multiple cats, which seems to totally eliminate odor. The boxes are scooped daily and the litter replaced every 2 weeks. The cats like it and don't mind sharing boxes.
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AKA Gray Asphalt - 08 Jun 2006 09:55 GMT Interesting. I just bought 20 cases of the same. How long does it take you clean the 3 boxes?
> Oh pshaw, on Mon 05 Jun 2006 10:52:46p, AKA Gray Asphalt meant to say... > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > 2 > weeks. The cats like it and don't mind sharing boxes. Wayne Boatwright - 08 Jun 2006 22:14 GMT Oh pshaw, on Thu 08 Jun 2006 01:55:27a, AKA Gray Asphalt meant to say...
> Interesting. I just bought 20 cases of the same. How long does it take > you clean the 3 boxes? Do you mean to scoop them out, or to scrub them when we change the litter?
To scoop, perhaps 5-10 minutes total. We have a "spare" dishwasher that we use for non-food washing and sterilizing, so washing the boxes takes minimal effort, but it does take time to run the cycle.
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AKA Gray Asphalt - 13 Jun 2006 08:11 GMT > how many cat boxes? What kind of litter do you use and how often do you > clean and how often do you change the litter? [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > I'm trying to invent an easier way to clean boxes for people like me that > have quite a few. So far it's going well. We just had 4 new kittens so I'm a little behind schedule on my 'invention'.
: -) AKA Gray Asphalt - 02 Jul 2006 02:16 GMT Well, I guess I'll never take the pictures of the steps I went through to come up with a better cat cleaning 'invention' and I'm just not going to pay the $30 to test anc compare an "Omni" so I can't really say my idea is better but it is a lot cheaper and I assume that the rooms where the space is too restricted to roll the omni, that my idea is more practical. Also, in the case of people like me that have a lot of cat boxes, 10, the price is ... well for me it is an issue.
As far as the plastic liners that sift the litter, I didn't try them again. The first time I tried it was with an oversized box, and althugh it might be worth the time and effort to replace my large cat boxes with smaller ones, I won't be doing that for a while. I kind of wish I had the energy to do that now for the sake of finding the better solution for cleaning boxes.
Okay, so I got the idea I think from the boxes that have the grid that you lift up and it sifts through the litter and then you put the litter into a third box, etc. Seems like a great idea but there are two problems. The sticky poop sticks to the plastic with the holes and it is kind of clumbsy to shift the boxes and strainer.
So what I did was to take some wire mesh and through a bunch of different attempts, including large round and square things that covered the entire box as a sifter ... and ended up by taking 3 of the plastic litter box containers, the kind you get when you buy litter and cutting a hole in the bottom of one. Then I cut a square that fit into the bottom of the plastic box and rounded the edges to if fit snugly. Then I cut a hole in the bottom of the box that extended almost to the edge of the sides ... about 3/4" away. Then I punched 4 holes in the bottom to allow two of those plastic ties to pass through the plastic and hold the sifter in place.
I take the 3 boxes, one with a hole covered by a sifter (1/4" holes), and pour all of the sand from the box into the sifter box which is set inside a regular box. The really sticky crap sticks to the bottom of the box which is a good thing because it doesn't get stuck in the grid. I use a stick to scrape the sticky crap off the bottom into the third box and usually the box is fine to use right away, but maybe someone else would wash it. Anyway, I then put the box with the clean cat litter in the bottom which has passed through the box placed in it which has the hole covered by the strainer ... I put both boxes into the empty cat litter box so that when I remove the strainer which might have some residue, (but less that I expected so far) ... I put the boxes into the cat litter box so that I won't spill any crap when I pour the residue from the strainer into the box with what was left and stuck to the litter box. This leaves an empty strainer box, and a box full of strained litter and a box with crap in it. I move the boxes out of the litter box and pour the strained (and remarkably clean, imo) litter into the litter box and make sure that the strainer is inserted into the empty box where the strained litter from the next box will go and put both into the box with the crap.
It is working very well and has cut my clean up time by at least 50% and maybe 75%. I have a lot of boxes as I mentioned.
I would be very grateful to know if this description is clear and how it might be better and if anyone trys this and if I should post a picture so that it is clearer.
Thanks for your responses before, Ben Hoff
> how many cat boxes? What kind of litter do you use and how often do you > clean and how often do you change the litter? [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > I'm trying to invent an easier way to clean boxes for people like me that > have quite a few. So far it's going well. TaliesinSoft - 02 Jul 2006 02:38 GMT > I would be very grateful to know if this description is clear and how it > might be better and if anyone trys this and if I should post a picture so > that it is clearer. I really think you need to post a picture! I unfortunately got totally confused part way through the explnation.
 Signature James Leo Ryan ..... Austin, Texas ..... taliesinsoft@mac.com
TaliesinSoft - 02 Jul 2006 03:13 GMT > Well, I guess I'll never take the pictures of the steps I went through to > come up with a better cat cleaning 'invention' and I'm just not going to [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > in the case of people like me that have a lot of cat boxes, 10, the price > is ... well for me it is an issue. A couple comments.....
a) The Omega Paw (which is what I'm assuming you mean when you say "Omni") can, with a slight amount of effort, be rolled over in its own space. Also, with a modest amount of heft it can be just picked up and turned over without rolling.
b) The number of cats an Omega Paw can service is related to the frequency of cleaning. And, since cleaning is so quick and easy I would expect that one would likely get by with far fewer Omega Paws than regular litter boxes.
I'm now in my early seventies and have had cats since childhood and am willing to say that none of the various methods for dealing with cat waste has been as effective and easy to use as the Omega Paw -- and that's a totally honest and unpaid testimonial!
 Signature James Leo Ryan ..... Austin, Texas ..... taliesinsoft@mac.com
AKA Gray Asphalt - 02 Jul 2006 10:50 GMT >> Well, I guess I'll never take the pictures of the steps I went through to >> come up with a better cat cleaning 'invention' and I'm just not going to [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > has been as effective and easy to use as the Omega Paw -- and that's a > totally honest and unpaid testimonial! Interesting, but the cost figure still is a problem for me since some of our cats don't get along well enough to share litter boxes so I do have to have quite a few. Everything else you say seems very good. I guess I should at least go and look at one.
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