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Cat Forum / General Topics / June 2006Foods which cause least/most foul smelling poop?
I am wondering what your experience is concerning the correlation between food type (dry or canned), protein source (chicken, beef, fish, etc), or brand (fancy feast, whiskas, friskies, iams, etc) and how bad smelling the cat poop is? > I am wondering what your experience is concerning the correlation > between food type (dry or canned), protein source (chicken, beef, fish, > etc), or brand (fancy feast, whiskas, friskies, iams, etc) and how bad > smelling the cat poop is? Great news: the higher the quality of the food, the less they poop. No kidding. Why? Because they actually use more of what they eat. Feed your cats canned food with meat (not byproducts) as its first ingredient (beef, liver, chicken, turkey, keep the fish to a minimum) and few grains and you'll see what I mean. I feed Fancy Feast and the food actually smells worse than the poop probably does. However--I never actually smell any poop, I use a good quality scoopable litter and keep the box clean. Do you live in a very small place? I wonder if this is really true. One of my cats is on a special diet food that I get from the vet....limited ingredients....we're trying to determine whether he has a food allergy or not. The food is rabbit and peas...IVD....made by Royal Canin. He gets a combination of canned and dry. I assumed this is a higher quality food. However, my cat poops at least twice a day (we've started calling him "Sir Poop-A-Lot")and the poop really smells. Maybe it's because it's rabbit rather than chicken, beef, turkey, etc. My other cat gets Wellness or Petguard canned and the special diet dry (easier to give both cats the same dry). He doesn't poop nearly as much and it doesn't smell as bad. Sue >> I am wondering what your experience is concerning the correlation >> between food type (dry or canned), protein source (chicken, beef, fish, [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > Inviato da X-Privat.Org - Registrazione gratuita > http://www.x-privat.org/join.php > I wonder if this is really true. One of my cats is on a special diet food > that I get from the vet....limited ingredients....we're trying to determine [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Sue Sue, I don't think your cat needs peas. :) I think the higher the carbs, the stinkier the poo. And rabbit? :) Have you tried feeding Sir Poops-A-Lot Fancy Feast varieties that have no wheat gluten and meat as a first ingredient? It got my allergic and asthmatic cat off of Depo shots. First time I noticed the difference in poop? Was years ago when I switched from cheap dry to Science Diet dry. Lower volume, lower stink. Cats are carnivores, they need meat. > >> I am wondering what your experience is concerning the correlation > >> between food type (dry or canned), protein source (chicken, beef, fish, [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Inviato da X-Privat.Org - Registrazione gratuita > > http://www.x-privat.org/join.php > Sue, I don't think your cat needs peas. :) I think the higher the carbs, the > stinkier the poo. And rabbit? :) Have you tried feeding Sir Poops-A-Lot > Fancy Feast varieties that have no wheat gluten and meat as a first > ingredient? It got my allergic and asthmatic cat off of Depo shots. The reason that vets prescribe the IVD rabbit and peas for cats that are suspected to have food allergies (at least, the reason my vet did so for my cat) is that the cat has to eat a novel source of protein -- a meat that he has never been previously exposed to. Most cats have had chicken, turkey, fish, etc, so when the vet is checking for allergies, they tend to put the cats on rabbit or venison. I don't think Fancy Feat comes in venison ;) -- Jennifer Yes, that's exactly why my vet recommended the limited ingredient food. Ernie developed ulcers on his mouth (not real bad, just one or two) and my vet wanted to rule out food allergies. For the most part, while I fed him the IVD he didn't develop any more ulcers. I began feeding him regular food again and he got another ulcer. I switched back to the IVD. But it has been very difficult keeping Ernie out of the regular food (I feed my other cat regular food because he's not thrilled with the IVD ) and Ernie also gets into people food (actually grabbed a raw chicken breast that I was planning on grilling right off of the kitchen counter; I got it away from him). He hasn't had any ulcers lately, though, so I'm not sure if the ulcers are caused by food allergies or not. But I'm still feeding him the IVD. Sue >> Sue, I don't think your cat needs peas. :) I think the higher the carbs, >> the [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > -- > Jennifer > > Sue, I don't think your cat needs peas. :) I think the higher the carbs, the > > stinkier the poo. And rabbit? :) Have you tried feeding Sir Poops-A-Lot [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > -- haha! Gotcha. However, a more common cause of allergies is grains. > haha! Gotcha. However, a more common cause of allergies is grains. FWIW, the Pea and Rabbit food is quite palatable (every cat I ever fed ot to loved it) and very high quality. Costs an arm and a leg, though. If we ever got any bags returned to the vet, I got to take them home. My cats were in heaven. -L. > > haha! Gotcha. However, a more common cause of allergies is grains. > > FWIW, the Pea and Rabbit food is quite palatable (every cat I ever fed > ot to loved it) and very high quality. Costs an arm and a leg, though. > If we ever got any bags returned to the vet, I got to take them home. > My cats were in heaven. Who makes it? > > FWIW, the Pea and Rabbit food is quite palatable (every cat I ever fed > > ot to loved it) and very high quality. > > Who makes it? It used to be IVD - Innovative Veterinary Diets, but the company name has recently changed to Royal Canin. http://www.royalcanin.us/vetdietfelineprod.html under the "Limited Ingredient Diets". -- Jennifer > > > FWIW, the Pea and Rabbit food is quite palatable (every cat I ever fed > > > ot to loved it) and very high quality. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > -- > Jennifer I think Royal Canin bought out IVD. -L. : "AlexZ" <alexz@no.spam> wrote : > I am wondering what your experience is concerning the correlation [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] : quality scoopable litter and keep the box clean. Do you live : in a very small place? My space is medium size and I also can't prentend that we have a serious smell problem, but still the less the better. Basically I am experimenting with various canned food varieties in an attempt to locate a few that are not too expensive, high quality nutrition, and she'd like them. Then I thought I may as well get some education about poop smell issue from the experienced owners, if certain types of food, good as they may be in other ways, are to be avoided for this reason. Only thing I don't like about fancy feast is that it comes in 3oz cans and gets artificially expensive. I do use it but tend to prefer brands that offer 5.5 oz cans. > : > I am wondering what your experience is concerning the correlation > : > between food type (dry or canned), protein source (chicken, beef, fish, [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > and gets artificially expensive. I do use it but tend to prefer brands > that offer 5.5 oz cans. I see. Joe is right, by the way--it does depend on the cat. I was talking about my experience, your mileage may vary. (My point to you was, as I do not know you and it sure sounds like your nose is the focal point here--do what is best for the cat. And get a bigger place, scoop more often or change litter.) FF is expensive--but it's worth it to me to keep my cat's allergies, asthma at bay, plus it is available everywhere. The other thing--I had an 18-lb lardbutt cat that is now 8 lbs and shiny and frisky from eating nothing but FF every twelve hours. FF has been beddy beddy goooood to us, in other words. : FF is expensive--but it's worth it to me to keep my cat's allergies, asthma : at bay, plus it is available everywhere. The other thing--I had an 18-lb : lardbutt cat that is now 8 lbs and shiny and frisky from eating nothing but : FF every twelve hours. FF has been beddy beddy goooood to us, in other : words. Which flavors of fancy feast do you like for your cat? > : FF is expensive--but it's worth it to me to keep my cat's allergies, asthma > : at bay, plus it is available everywhere. The other thing--I had an 18-lb [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Which flavors of fancy feast do you like for your cat? Someone recently posted a list of the ones that have no wheat gluten, and I noticed that they included the ones I buy all the time. My cats like the ground stuff--all they will do is lick the gravy off of the roasted/sliced varieties. I first notices a positive change in my allergic cat when she was eating nothing but Chopped Grill Feast. (Although, this variety does have "meat byproducts" as a first ingredient it does not have wheat gluten.) Others I use: Tender Beef Feast, Gourmet Chicken Feast, Tender Beef and Chicken Feast, Tender Liver and Chicken Feast, and Salmon Feast. : > Which flavors of fancy feast do you like for your cat? : [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] : Tender Beef and Chicken Feast, Tender Liver and Chicken : Feast, and Salmon Feast. Thanks. Mine too will lick the gravy off leaving all meat pieces behind if you give her the chance. A few observations: 1. I have read not to feed much beef, anyway it seems like an unnatural food for a cat. A chicken she could have killed and eaten, cow I am less sure. :) 2. She loves safood in "flaked" line but people say go easy on seafood. 3. She also loves Chunky Chiken Feast, but it seems to be high in phosphorous according a list posted here. So I haven't found anything which is good from all angles that she would eat. But I am still researching. Besides fancy feast I am also trying Iams and Science Diet as they are often available more economically. "AlexZ" <alexz@no.spam> wrote in message: > Besides fancy feast I am also trying Iams and Science Diet as they are > often available more economically. I have to say, I had great results with Science Diet with my first cat, who ate it for the last 15 of her twenty years and never was sick until her last illness, and we still don't know what that was, she just stopped eating. But of course, all cats are different. When you find what works for yours, please share the information! I have done some research on this topic - sorry I haven't checked in in a while. I go to Only Natural Pet and get Natual Balance dry food. It seems to be the best for cats with touchy digestive systems. Also, you can try the "raw" foods there. Good luck! Morgen Marshall http://www.for-the-love-of-cats.com > I am wondering what your experience is concerning the correlation > between food type (dry or canned), protein source (chicken, beef, fish, > etc), or brand (fancy feast, whiskas, friskies, iams, etc) and how bad > smelling the cat poop is? Generally, given a healthy cat, there are two factors... 1) The cat's digestive system. 2) High quality food. You can pick the highest quality food; however, if the cat's digestive system balks at this particular food the end result may be bad smelling poop. In that case it will be necessary to try another food to see what works well for your particular cat. It is also necessary to give the cat time to adjust to the new food. Once you do find something that works stick with it. : It is also necessary to give the cat time to adjust to the new food. : Once you do find something that works stick with it. I do believe in changing anything slowly, but are you suggesting the cat eat only one kind of food? Then we would be "hostage" to that company either remaining in business, and not dropping or substantially chaning that formula. > : It is also necessary to give the cat time to adjust to the new food. > : Once you do find something that works stick with it. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > company either remaining in business, and not dropping or substantially > chaning that formula. Unlike humans, cats don't appear to be interested much in food variety. This is why it is important to not only pick a good food, but also a manufacturer that will be around for a while. > > : It is also necessary to give the cat time to adjust to the new food. > > : Once you do find something that works stick with it. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Unlike humans, cats don't appear to be interested much in food variety. This sure isn't true with my cats. They get lots of variety and thrive on it. The problem comes when a cat is fed only one particular food from the time it is young. Then it can become difficult to change foods in the future should that particular company go down the tubes, or changes flavors or textures. I always recommend feeding as much variety as possible. Also, where one particular food may be lacking in certain nutrients, variety can balance it out. See my cats: http://mickeymeesha.photosite.com/mm/ >> > : It is also necessary to give the cat time to adjust to the new food. >> > : Once you do find something that works stick with it. [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > See my cats: http://mickeymeesha.photosite.com/mm/ Same here the only food that they seem to eat no matter what is 9 lives tuna with real egg bits but anything else if given for a while they will snub it till it rots : Same here the only food that they seem to eat no matter what is 9 lives : tuna with real egg bits but anything else if given for a while they will : snub it till it rots Is that red tuna or white? There was some discussion in the groups that red is not good for their health. I believe it is white but there is always discussions in the groups Too many years have past for me to put full faith in believing the experts one will say this is the one and provide medical facts than a time will pass then they will say this is the one and provide facts than so on and so on. > : Same here the only food that they seem to eat no matter what is 9 lives > : tuna with real egg bits but anything else if given for a while they [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Is that red tuna or white? There was some discussion in the groups that > red is not good for their health. > I believe it is white but there is always discussions in the groups > > Too many years have past for me to put full faith in believing the experts > one will say this is the one and provide medical facts than a time will > pass then they will say this is the one and provide facts than so on and so > on. See, this is how I feel, more and more as time goes on. One good example: I never stopped eating eggs, over a lifetime of hysteria about how bad they are supposed to be for you. Why? Because they are one of the most complete food sources around, you can do lots of things with them, and I like them! (Plus, a dozen for a buck or so beats the $5 a pound we pay for other complete animal protein sources, for real!) And I have never had high cholesterol, it stays at 150-160 due to exercise, and, most importantly, heredity, which they NOW say plays at least as large a role as diet in cholesterol, given that they NOW say "40% of the body's cholesterol comes from diet and the rest is what your own body actually makes." That said, isn't the color of that Nine Lives tuna and egg very red? My mom fed her cat that stuff, and if it is the same as then, it is red, red, red. > > : Same here the only food that they seem to eat no matter what is 9 lives > > : tuna with real egg bits but anything else if given for a while they [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Is that red tuna or white? There was some discussion in the groups that > > red is not good for their health. > That said, isn't the color of that Nine Lives tuna and egg very red? > My mom fed her cat that stuff, and if it is the same as then, it is > red, red, red. I used to feed 9 Lives to a cat I had and one day she puked it up on our dining room carpet. I tried everything, but that stain never would come up. I think they add food dyes to the food. > > That said, isn't the color of that Nine Lives tuna and egg very red? > > My mom fed her cat that stuff, and if it is the same as then, it is [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > our dining room carpet. I tried everything, but that stain never would > come up. I think they add food dyes to the food. Makes sense to me. I have seen this with cheap dry too. (Up close! Early in her life I fed my first cat some kind that was "beefy red" and tried to get THAT out of the carpet .... same thing.) >I am wondering what your experience is concerning the correlation >between food type (dry or canned), protein source (chicken, beef, fish, >etc), or brand (fancy feast, whiskas, friskies, iams, etc) and how bad >smelling the cat poop is? The correlation I have noticed is that cat sh.t stinks. Charlie >> I am wondering what your experience is concerning the correlation >> between food type (dry or canned), protein source (chicken, beef, fish, [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Charlie Then stop lingering over the litter box to inhale! :-D > I am wondering what your experience is concerning the correlation > between food type (dry or canned), protein source (chicken, beef, fish, > etc), or brand (fancy feast, whiskas, friskies, iams, etc) and how bad > smelling the cat poop is? My cats are on a homemade raw diet. I have to say I don't notice the poops smelling bad like they did from cats I fed commercial food to. But if you use a higher quality commercial food, it can really make a difference than if you feed the cheaper stuff. See my cats: http://mickeymeesha.photosite.com/mm/ Our two (Singapuras) eat James Wellbeloved biscuits and have one tray of Sheba a day. No smell at all, and they're not farty either. They enjoy their food, and they're in very good condition. The type of litter goes a long way to limiting smell, as far as I can see. We use a silica gel one (City Cat or Bob Martin, depending on whichever is cheaper when we go to the shop - there are sometimes offers.) -- www.gastronomydomine.com |
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