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Toilet training cats: Equipment needed?

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Al Kondo - 01 Mar 2004 23:36 GMT
My kitties are 7 months old and I would like to toilet train them so
that they use our commode.   They are well trained in using the litter
box.   My question is "what are some of the things I should purchase
to facilitate this training?".     I understand the process, but I
would like to know if there are some "ready made" items that would
make this process possible.    Also, I am interested in hearing the
experiences of some of you who have tried this.

Thanks,   Al Kondo
zuzu22@webtv.net - 02 Mar 2004 00:03 GMT
Don't do it.
http://community.webtv.net/zuzu22/toilettraining

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Wendy - 02 Mar 2004 02:32 GMT
> Don't do it.
> http://community.webtv.net/zuzu22/toilettraining
>
> Megan

I've seen some type of contraption that is similar to one of those rings
they have for small children. Heaven help the kitty if someone forgets to
put it back on the seat after they use it though. I had to rescue one of my
cats. I found her panic stricken, spread eagle, slowly sliding down the
porcelain toward the water. She was in there for a drink and slipped. We
keep the lid shut all the time now.

W
rpl - 02 Mar 2004 03:08 GMT
>>Don't do it.
>>http://community.webtv.net/zuzu22/toilettraining
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> W

has anybody tried simply cutting a hole in the toilet seat top ? (<g> or
a toilet seat top with an itty-bitty toilet seat top in the middle which
the cat can open <g>)[1]. I have a cat that pees down the house drain in
the basement, I don't think there's any built-in "has to be sand/gravel"
compunction in the cat, more a "just ditch it".

Pat

[1] I've been on the internet *far* too long today
MaryL - 02 Mar 2004 12:51 GMT
> My kitties are 7 months old and I would like to toilet train them so
> that they use our commode.   They are well trained in using the litter
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> Thanks,   Al Kondo

Please don't do this.  It simply isn't "natural" for a cat.  They can't get
in the correct position, there is always the danger that the cat could slip
and fall down into the commode, and you will not be able to properly monitor
urine output (and thus may fail to detect health problems).

(Note:  This same message appeared in health+behav, but it was posted
separately instead of cross-posting.  It is usually better to cross-post in
cases like this so that all replies will be listed together.)

MaryL
rpl - 02 Mar 2004 18:51 GMT
> My kitties are 7 months old and I would like to toilet train them so
> that they use our commode.  

Cats don't do the "train" thing. Seriously. It's a union thing.

>They are well trained in using the litter
> box.  

That's *not* training;
even baby kittens new to solid food will (after a couple days which you
spend wandering around the house with a mop) start using a litterbox (or
the kids' sandbox, or a large flowerpot, etc.), naturally; it's an
instinctual behaviour.

>My question is "what are some of the things I should purchase
> to facilitate this training?".     I understand the process, but I
> would like to know if there are some "ready made" items that would
> make this process possible.

It's a cute parlor trick, it really is, but:

-Why do you want to make your cat try to balance on the seat rim while
answering the call of nature?
-Are you going to wait in line behind the cats?
-Do you expect the cats to wait til your done?
-Do you actually want to sit there after kitty's finished?
-You have two cats; cats like to play; how much of your time do you want
to spend washing your cat after his buddy has pushed/scared him into the
toilet bowl.
-How much time each day do you want to spend cleaning the bathroom.

Last but far from least in my books: if you wander into the bathroom in
the middle of the night, not quite awake ...

(this scenario plays differently for men and women, but the results are
not something you want to deal with at all, much less at 2am)

>Also, I am interested in hearing the
> experiences of some of you who have tried this.
>
> Thanks,   Al Kondo

I was honestly considering trying this with my cats by just cutting a
hole in the toilet lid (and arranging a mechanism so the lid stays
down), but MaryL brings up a very good point: you can't tell if the
cat's peeing too much (a symptom of some common diseases)

Pat
you'd never get them to flush anyways, and if you did, you'd never get
them to stop
Orchid - 02 Mar 2004 21:50 GMT
>> My kitties are 7 months old and I would like to toilet train them so
>> that they use our commode.  
>
>Cats don't do the "train" thing. Seriously. It's a union thing.

    I beg to differ on the 'cats don't do the train thing'.  While
I don't think the OP should try and toilet train his cats for reasons
of health and safety, cats most certainly do train.
    My cats are clicker trained, and have ~20 behaviours,
including classic obedience (come, sit, down, stay, etc), stupid
tricks (speak, high-five, etc), and ICAT agility behaviours ( over
hurdles, catwalks, through hoops, etc).

Orchid
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rpl - 03 Mar 2004 08:55 GMT
> Orchid
> See Orchid's Kitties! -- http://nik.ascendancy.net/bengalpage
> Want a Purebred Cat?  Read This! -- http://nik.ascendancy.net/orchid

Very pretty, indeed! Is their fur coarse ?

Pat
Orchid - 03 Mar 2004 21:44 GMT
>> Orchid
>> See Orchid's Kitties! -- http://nik.ascendancy.net/bengalpage
>> Want a Purebred Cat?  Read This! -- http://nik.ascendancy.net/orchid
>
>Very pretty, indeed! Is their fur coarse ?

    Nope -- it's very soft and silky.  Actually, more satiny
feeling because they have very tight coats.

Orchid
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MaryL - 02 Mar 2004 22:09 GMT
> I was honestly considering trying this with my cats by just cutting a
> hole in the toilet lid (and arranging a mechanism so the lid stays
> down), but MaryL brings up a very good point: you can't tell if the
> cat's peeing too much (a symptom of some common diseases)

OR:  you also can't tell if the cat's peeing too *little* (very dangerous).

MaryL

> Pat
M.C. Mullen - 03 Mar 2004 08:38 GMT
| Pat
| you'd never get them to flush anyways,

I beg your pardon, Micky flushes the toilet so often that I had to put
something there to stop him.

| and if you did, you'd never get
| them to stop

Yes, exactly LOL

Carola
 
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