Just keep him away from the other cats until he's calmed down completely.
Nothing else to do.

Dave

It's just going to take time.  Keep him separated from the others for the
time being.  Is there a special food he loves that you've given him as a
treat (tuna, salmon, chicken baby food, real chicken or turkey, other meats,
etc.)?  If you give him some (enough to make him very full), it can cause him
to become drowsy and mellow.  Then maybe he'll calm down a bit more.

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HOWEDY culprit,

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INDEEDY.

The Puppy Wizard doesn't approve of violence.

NOT AT ALL, kelly.

INDEEDY.

GUARANTEED.

DONE THAT.

GUARANTEED.

DONE THAT.

INDEEDY. You're missing HUMAN DECENCY,
MORALS, ETHICS, PRINCIPLES, and ALL REASON.

And that ain't all The Puppy Wizard SPECIALIZES in, kelly.

NO PROBLEMO! You're inscribed in the book of eternal death.
You're a liar and a dog abuser and a MENTAL CASE.

lyingdogDUMMY wrote:

Aimee replied:
Your reply doesn't even pertain to the subject...

Why don't we discuss why you feel you need hurt
animals to "train" them?

I've actually met TPW.  I called him a few times with
questions about the training method, and he realized
that there were some underlying problems. Axel (my dog)
had a special situation.  So, TPW met with us in our home.
The first thing he noticed was that Axel's collar was too
tight.  We loosened it, and immediately Axel calmed
down quite a bit.

We went outside and worked on the HOT AND COLD
HANDLING EXERCISE and THE FAMILY PACK
LEADERSHIP EXERCIZE.  That seemed to get us
headed in the right direction, but we were still having
a few problems with Axel's anxiety.

The main reason TPW visited our home - I found this
our recently during one of our conversations- was to
see how my husband and I interacted with one another.
I had been following the methods precisely, but Axel
was still having difficulty.

TPW's assumptions were correct - we were causing
alot of Axel's anxiety with our arguments and tension.
TPW told me that Axel has been one of his most
difficult dogs to work with.

Axel had his anxieties from mishandling and from my
husband and myself.

We had a few problems because I was unwilling to
accept the fact that I needed to be "nice" eventhough
I wasn't being treated "nicely", but once I realized that
was the only way I could really get Axel past his anxiety,
I worked on being a loving wife (even though I didn't
really want to be).

AND GUESS WHAT?  My husband saw the difference,
and he followed suit.Now, we have a stress free dog,
and a good marriage.

Can you tell me how forcing someone (dog, person,
cat) to do what YOU want them to do, is going to
improve a situation?  I tried that with my husband
and with my dog, and it didn't work with either of them.

Your methods have an 85% success rate - and my dog
was one of the 15% that doesn't accept your methods.

TPW has 100% success rate.  You do the math.

If TPW hadn't helped us, Axel wouldn't be where he is today.

============================

Here's Aimee's original post and her first post to
The Puppy Wizard:

I own a black an tan coonhound.  We got him as a puppy, and
due to constant mishandling (pulling on his lead, negative
corrections, and the occasional use of a bark collar) I ended
up with a very anxious dog.

I couldn't leave him home alone, I couldn't crate him, I couldn't
even take my dog for walks because he feared EVERYTHING.

I was going to have to get rid of him if things didn't turn
around.

My husband and I searched the internet for answers - AND
WE FOUND THE PUPPY WIZARD.

For all of you disbeliveers out there HIS METHODS WORK!

I've followed his manual, and we now have a dog that can be
left home  alone, that heels on command, that can go outside
and NOT be afraid of everything he sees.

Not only have his methods help our dog, but our marriage
has gotten better.  We had fallen into a rut - constant bickering
and tension, we never laughed or had FUN together - but now, with
the same mindset used in THE PUPPY WIZARDS dog training, our
communications channels have opened, and we
now work together instead of against one another.

For all the "Literalists" out there, NO WE DID NOT
TEACH EACH OTHER TO SIT, STAY, OR HEEL.

We simply eliminated the nagging and the acting out to get
NEGATIVE attention from one another since we weren't getting the
POSITIVE attention we wanted.

So, it's been proven - THE PUPPY WIZARDS METHODS
WORK. It's up to you to accept them.  Yes, there's alot of
blame that we have to accept, but once we realize that we've
caused these problems to arise, we can strive to make things
better.

                     =================

     Discipline - The "NO!" Command - HOWE Dogs
     And Children Learn To Tell You "NO!" And HOWE
     COME They RUN HOWET And TURN ON YOU:

  From: Amanda [mailto:ama...@dcfwatch.com]
  Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 7:14 PM
  Subject: Re: Discipline

  On Tuesday 14 January 2003 20:47, T__ wrote:

  funny you bring this up...  i met the most wonderful
  couple.. man and wife.. he's a dog trainer.. all his life
  who uses a technique that is ONLY praise and distraction
  with some family pack exercises.

  They spent the day with us sunday helping me on my
  two pits... one is a protective/aggressive 20 month old
  female who is my bubby :) and our 7 week male pup.
  anyway.. not only did i nip any and all aggression issues
  in mere minutes...he and his wife helped me with my kids.

  I was and always have been a spanker.

  It is all i knew how.. i never, ever wanted to be..
  but i was.  my house/kids were out of control..
  i was always stressed.

  Since he and his wife came down sunday we've
  had a HUGE change... for the first time the kids
  didn't destroy my house before i woke up... my
  3yo was in my bed coloring waiting for us to wake
  up...  this is the first time she ever used paper
  :) she usually does walls, furniture.

  Anyway..  he told me to use sound/praise.. and it works.

  I have a 6 yo, 3.5 yo who is psycho child :) and a very
  bad-a$$ 19 month old. They are all smarter than I am and
  know it :)  There has not been a temper tantrum in two
  days in my house.

  You guys have no idea how great this is.

  But best of all.. this method does NOT use the evil eye
  or a tone of that is in any way short of absolute praise..
  no shouting.. not even a quiet Chloe!.. nada.. ONLY
  praise.

  They even taught my kids not to take candy unless
  i say so.. (my oldest will literally let you pierce her
  ears for candy..

  it's been done twice and i keep taking em out) and
  now the bag of blow pops i forget on the floor in my
  closet (where we keep the girl's dressed) is still there
  and NO ONE has eaten one! My 3 yo is even helping
  me pick up the house.. the baby took my lingerie chest
  apart.. and she cleaned it up!  first time!

  They don't even go out the open door without my
  offering it! they helped me sort laundry.. clean the
  living room... im amazed. The 3 yo got some yogurt
  from the fridge andwalked to our kitchen table, sat
  down and ate it.. she REFUSES to sit at the table
  and eat!

  We also taught them and the dogs to sit pretty so
  when they're climbing on my couch.. i go Can you
  show me how you sit pretty??  and they ALL hop
  down and show me to sit pretty with their feet NOT
  on the cofee table.. hands friggin folded.. i almost
  fell over..

 thanks for reminding me to share my joy!

 I'm not a spanker! I don't even yell! lol!

  here i picked names that shout well and i don't need em!!!

 > how old is your bub amanda?  waht's the bub doing?/
 > Hello again ladies,
 > Amanda, I love your signature. I also do not spank my
 > daughter, however, she is at an age where she really is
 > asserting her independence.
 > Can anyone help with ideas of what I can do? Blessings,
 > T.

Subject: Re Discipline.  Also, SLEEP!
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 02:38:46 -0500
From: Amanda <ama...@dcfwatch.com>

 >  Can you go into this a little more?  How did they
 >  accomplish all  this in one day?

My learning is progressive.  I email or call him with
questions.  But, i'm getting most of it myself.  Something
clicked.

How would we do it with our families?

that is kind of broad..  ask me specifics... or i'd still be
typing when your kids are in college ;)

 > I really have problems controlling my temper when I am
 > already stressed out and then C__ is hurting me:

Me too.. i was abused... my mom was psycho... and i had
problems with anger.. i took it personally when my 6 yr old
wouldn't clean her room... i would sometimes cry is was so
strung out.. i didn't wanna spank but i didn't know what to do
instead.. so i spanked.. and then spanking didn't work.. and
then my dogs went nuts and i called this trainer and he showed
me how to do it.

pulling my hair, scratching me, slapping me, etc.

Mine hit me on purpose alot.. scratching.. climbing on me..
hurting me and then laughing.

Now as I post.. please don't think im trying to be a know it
all.. i simply wanna relay what i have learned...  as it is
i've only been spank free for a week now and yell free for two
days (my neighbors two streets over are happy :)

 Children, dogs, people.. they do thinks wrong because it
 ellicits your ultimate attention.  Does your 3 year old
 enjoy fingerpainting on walls? no... do they enjoy fighting
 the minute you pick up the phone??  No.

 They *know* they can command your attention.. and that's
 what they want. same reason your dogs fight.. they think
 it is controlling you.

Your kids want you watching their every move.. making sure
they eat.. dont talk to strangers.. because it means you are
watching THEM and not them watching you as it should be.  they
should stay within x feet of you.. because they like mom and
she's cool and she keeps em safe... they shouldn't run and
expect you to chase them.. because you won't always be there
to chase them... that's how kids die or get lost.

When they learn to follow you.. it's all good.

Now, take my 19 mo old.  She had this habit of sipping 4 oz
from her bottle and demanding more.  if i didn't refill it..
she threw a hgue fit.  Now she hands me her bottle and says
more.. and i tickle her... then i pick up her bottle and
pretend im drinking it.. i offer her a drink and snatch it
back saying MY Baba!!  She wants that bottle.. so she takes it
and drinks it.. even tho i didn't refill it.

we had a huge problem with them taking things they cant
have and when i wanted it they ran...  now i give the baby
(19mo) my finger.. and she grabs it.. and i wiggle and shout
My finger!  that's mine! Gimme it back.. playfully.. and she
resists.. and i go "Ooh.. can i have it please?" and she gives
it to me and i gleefully say Thank you! and she says you're
welcome.. and i give her the finger back... then i hand her
say a lighter... and we wrestle for a minute.. and i say...
can i have that??? and she gives it over etc.

Of course sometimes she'll have a cool! book! and ill ask
can i have that.. and shell say No. and i say that's ok!
and tickle her or snap my fingers and say good girl naya..
good job.. then ill start my game again and wrestle and
try to take it gently... then.. can i have that??? s

he gives it over.  this works with everything now.

 > Or when he's ripping up my homework or something like
 > that.

Yea... with the dog training you hide nothing.. no forced
control.  you set the dog up for fail.. so you can distract
and praise and erase the thought.. same with the kids.  Put
some unimportant paper all over.. when he goes to touch it..
make a sound and distract him.. then good boy, that's a nice
baby!... then repeat.. the minute he goes for the paper and
breaks the thgouth you throw him in the air and praise like
mad!

 > How would I apply this in those situations?  Also, what do
 > you do in 'danger' situations (until you're close enough
 > to distract them) - climbing on things, sticking metal
 > objects into electrical outlets, trying to get into the
 > oven, etc.?

Use your judgement.. if you have the distance/time to
distract... do it.. if you don't... pick them up and away..
but act like it's to throw em in the air.. so they don't know
youre forcing control by phsycially removing them... cuz when
you force control.. with the come command when you want your
dog away from something... or when you pull a dirty shoe from
your baby's mouth.. you put value on it.

Like when your kid puts a penny in its mouth.. youll try to
pry its mouth open to get it... and he'll clamp right down..
you gave that penny VALUE!  it's not just a piece of crap..
mom WANTS IT!

so.. instead you make a game.. say you want em to smit it
out... walk somewhere else... attract their attention.. be
kinda sneaky... odds are the thing in their mought will get
annoying and they'll spit it out when they walk toward you...
if all else fails.. pry it outta their smiling jaws... snatch
em up away from falling down...  but only when you have to..
then work realy hard to overcome that forced control.

Also don't make a big deal about it.. or else theyll learn not
only to command your attention, but also mom will always catch
me so she is watching me.. not me watching her.

 > I never realized how spirited C__ was until I started
 >  tending other kids.

those are my kids.  I have had social workers with their
degrees in child development stop offering me services cuz
they couldn't handle my kids... my friends call mine the
obstinate kids.

 > They're docile kittens compared to C__!  This brings up
 > another question - what do you do when YOUR child is the
 > bully?

if you catch it before it happens.. loud sound.. big
distraction and PRAISE. if you catch it afterward... distract
and say oh my goodness! and pay attention to the other kid...
he wont get the attention... then explain how that hurts.
odds are your kid won't hurt another kid if he truly
understands its not nice.

 > C__ is always beating the other boy over the head when he
 > comes over.
 > We don't hit in anger in our family

i have.. everyone does in my family... i did it a few times
over 4 years... but that is because i didn't know how not to.
i know now.. and i wanna tell everyone i can.. so someone else
doesn't spank their kids due to a lack of knowledge.

 > (we do it playfully sometimes, so we are curtailing that
 > in case it is giving him ideas)

my kids, 6yo, 3yo and 19 month old, favorite game is chasing
around the house (all 4 of us) with wooden spools yelling at
the top of our lungs "I'm gonna beat your a$$.. HA HA HA... no
IM gonna beat YOUR a$$  MU HA HA HA"  my neighbors prolly
think im nuts.. but the kids love it dog even plays too

 > but I admit that after I have been trying to get him to go
 > to sleep for 45 minutes, I  get a little rough sometimes.
 > It's really frustrating.  He'll be dead tired - eyes
 > bright red, fussy, eyes almost closing every 5 seconds.

It gets worse... they all do it around that time.. they don't
want to sleep.. andyou know what?  they don't grow out of it
until they're parents :)  it's one of those times you have to
use your patience and keep distracting and praising.

 > So I'll take him into the bedroom, and lay down to nurse
 > him.  He'll nurse for about 5 seconds and then jump up and
 > run to the window and start bending the blinds.

he wants you upset.. he wants your undivided attention.  you
have to refuse it.. no evil eye.. no "conner" quiet or not..
no anger.. complete nonchalance.. they have to have a total
complete entire lack fo negative attention.. and all they'll
be able to do is sit back and enjoy the positive!

One shout.. one name call.. one No! and it takes awhile to
work up to the positive only.

 >  So I gently pick him up and lay him back down.

try not to.. but if you have to ok

  > And we repeat the process over 10000 times.

when he goes to sit up.. when yous see the thought on his
face.. distract with sound and follow with praise or a song or
giggle.

  > Then I get frustrated and lay him down less gently.

better than my method of plop em in the crib and let em cry.
No anger.. stay calm.. meditate, pray.. breath..  try to
remember they will not always be this small.. and youll never,
ever for anything get it back. it's what im using

  > That makes him cry, which is the last straw that
  > FINALLY gets him to nurse to sleep.

He got you riled up.. what he wanted.. time to sleep.

 > Writing it out, I thought of something.  He must have a
 > lot of excess tension he needs to release before sleeping,
 > and finally crying releases it for him.

 no way... crying isn't a release.. sometimes.. maybe for
 some people.. crying is frustration, pain, hunger,
 sadness... sometimes joy.. sometimes tension.. but not
 because of his life.. because he's insecure... their dealing
 with negative and positive.. and thats what makes em
 insecure.

 > Any good ways to do this that don't involve crying?

distraction and praise.. if all else fails get up and dance..
fast for day.. slow rocking at night.

 > Turning on soft music and swaying in the sling used to
 > work for us, but now he either grabs at everything he can
 > reach or bends over backwards until he's hanging upside
 > down.

cuz he knows what you're doing.  hold him instead..
or sit him in your lap on the bed and rock

becuase it is forced control.

Amanda

                  ================

You AIN'T gonna get no doGdameneD heelp from these animal lovers.
Most of the imbeciles you're askin GOT THE SAME PROBLEM and can't
fix it yet they'll DO an SAY ANYTHING to DEFEND their alleged RIGHT
to hurt intimidate mutilate and murder innocent defenseless dumb
critters <{) : ~ ( >

You should have PRAISED THEM <{); ~ ) >

THAT reinforced his FEAR.

You mean by CHASING HIM AWAY YOURSELF.

And YOU done her job for her.

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                     "ANY Behavior Problem That's
               REPRESSED, IGNORED or AVOIDED
               Will ONLY GET WORSE Or CHANGE
                                To Other,
                 Seemingly Non Related Behaviors
        As ANXXXIHOWESNESS RELIEF MECHANISMS
                        Or TRAINsfer behaviors".

                              ANY Behavior
               That's CONSISTENT, PREDICTABLE
                            Or REPEATABLE,
                  Is EZ To MODIFY EXXXTINGUISH
                        Or Put On CUE (Train)
                          NEARLY INSTANTLY
                    If You Understand And Apply
                     EFFECTIVE NON PHYSICAL
                    SCIENTIFIC And PSYCHOLOGICAL
             Pavlovian and Ericksonian CONDITIONING,
            i.e., Simply Doin EVERY THING EXXXACTLY,
      PRECISELY, OPPOSITE of HOWE We Been Taught
          By Professional CritterTrainers, Veterinarians
                      And University Behaviorists
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to psychotropic pharmacuticals and bribery, fear, force,
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Of curse not.

That'll INCREASE his anXXXIHOWESNESS and REINFORCE his phobic behavior.

STUDY IT:

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HE'S AFRAID. He lays against you on accHOWENT of he'S INSECURE.

The physical contact presents a dichotomy here.

Let's look at BOTH SIDES of the issue:

Sam Corson, Pavlov's Last Student Demonstrated At
UofOH Oxford, That Rehabilitation Of Hyperactive
Dogs Can Easily And Readily Be Done Using TLC.
Tender Loving Care Is At The Root Of The Scientific
Management Of Doggys.  <{) ; ~ ) >

"Postitive emotions arising in connection
with the perfection of a skill, irrespective
of its pragmatic significance at a given
moment, serve as the reinforcement. IOW,
emotions, not outside rewards, are what
reinforces any behavior," Ivan Pavlov.

              ---------

That means you're "on the right track" giving
affection to reassure him. HOWEver, the PHYSICAL
CONTACT is CONfHOWENDING that reassurance and
REINFORCES HIS FEARS by makin him DEPENDENT on
YOU as his reassurance:

                         ANY Behavior
                 That's CONSISTENT, PREDICTABLE
                         Or REPEATABLE,
                  Is EZ To MODIFY EXXXTINGUISH
                     Or Put On CUE (Train)
                        NEARLY INSTANTLY
                   If You Understand EFFECTIVE
                       ***NON PHYSICAL***
                    SCIENTIFIC And PSYCHOLOGICAL
               Pavlovian and Ericksonian CONDITIONING

That's the SECRET to NON PHYSICAL CON-TROLL.

       The Methods, Principles And Philosophy Of Behavior
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                     And Could Not Obtain
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You COULD if you knew HOWE to TRAIN him.

                       A DOG Is A Dog;
                     As A KAT Is A KAT;
                   As A BIRDY Is A BIRDY;
                   As A CHILD IS A CHILD;
                 As A SP-HOWES Is a SP-HOWES;
            As A Mass Murderer Is A Mass Murderer.

                ALL Critters Only Respond In
             PREDICTABLE INNATE NORMAL NATURAL
                 INSTINCTIVE REFLEXIVE Ways;
      To Situations And Circumstances Of Their Environment
                  Which We Create For Them.

             You GET The Critter You TRAINED

            In The Problem Animal Behavior BUSINESS
                      FAILURE MEANS DEATH.
                      SAME SAME SAME SAME,
           For The Problem Child Behavior BUSINESS.

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