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Cat Forum / General Topics / May 2006Feeding human grade tuna
I occasionally feed her tuna chunks as treats which are greatly appreciated. I buy tuna packed in water. My question is: Is it ok to serve tuna in the water it came packed in, or should the water be discarded? I ask because I recall hearing different opinions on what to do with canned people food (which is what this tuna is), about salt and other cchemicals that may be in the packing fluids etc. As for the taste, my cat loves that tuna water. I think it's Ok to give the tuna and water occasionally. Gail >I occasionally feed her tuna chunks as treats which are greatly > appreciated. I buy tuna packed in water. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > cchemicals that may be in the packing fluids etc. As for the taste, my > cat loves that tuna water. > I occasionally feed her tuna chunks as treats which are greatly > appreciated. I buy tuna packed in water. You cheapskate bastard. A few pennies more and you could buy the tuna packed in olive oil. Classier. > My question is: Is it ok to serve tuna in the water it came packed in, > or should the water be discarded? Discard the tuna. > I ask because I recall hearing different opinions on what to do with > canned people food (which is what this tuna is) Eh?! Are you trying to suggest that the meat inside the "tuna" tins in question is really human flesh?! You sick f.cker! > about salt and other cchemicals Yyeah! Ccould bbe ppoisonous, tthat sshit! > that may be in the packing fluids etc. As for the taste, my > cat loves that tuna water. A good idea, to save on all those tuna bills, would be to have your cat put down. Think about it. >> I occasionally feed her tuna chunks as treats which are greatly >> appreciated. I buy tuna packed in water. >> >You cheapskate bastard. A few pennies more and you could buy the tuna packed >in olive oil. Classier. Classier.....and tastes like garbage. I tried tuna in oil and thought I was going to puke. I usually don't give my cats human tuna. Once a year or so i'll give it to them as a treat. Also comes in handy when they won't eat after some medical procudure. >> I occasionally feed her tuna chunks as treats which are greatly >> appreciated. I buy tuna packed in water. >> >You cheapskate bastard. A few pennies more and you could buy the tuna packed >in olive oil. Classier. Cats won't eat tuna in oil. I've never had or known a cat yet that wouldn't simply reject it. If it ain't in water, they're not gonna eat it. Period. I give mine the water I drain out - about once a month - and it is much appreciated. :-) I think canned food in general should be viewed as a treat, not a staple. >I give mine the water I drain out - about once a month - and it is much >appreciated. :-) I think canned food in general should be viewed as a >treat, not a staple. They really love that tuna water. They don't get it often but they sure lap it up when they do. : II think canned food in general should be viewed as a treat, : not a staple. Canned *human* food, sure. I am not sure however that canned *cat* food should also be viewed as treat, I do use it as staple and if that's what you meant, I'd like to know why. >My question is: Is it ok to serve tuna in the water it came packed in, >or should the water be discarded? Yes, it is fine to give her the water too; you can get low salt tuna if you're concerned about the sodium. >I occasionally feed her tuna chunks as treats which are greatly > appreciated. I buy tuna packed in water. I would keep human tuna to the absolute minimum- if it begins to represent too much of the cats diet you are risking tha cats developing steatitis (yellow fat disease). http://www.connollyac.com/showpracfaq.cfm?FAQID=168&Private=0  SignatureToni http://www.irish-wolfhounds.com Occasional "human grade" tuna is ok, but not as the main diet. Not enough of the other nutrients that cats need. When I give my cats tuna, it is *always* "human grade"... the "pet food" is usually garbage. They know real food when they are presented with it, and they love it! But they need variety to get all the vitamins/minerals they need. A side note: the tuna packed in water is better, and also a great fluid to offer a cat who won't drink or eat... If they won't drink it at all, there may be an illness going on. The OIL from tuna packed in oil is not a good thing to offer cats... it actually has a dehydrating effect, the opposite of what you would want to do. Not just my opinion there, vets will also tell you this. Catgirl : Occasional "human grade" tuna is ok, but not as the main diet. Not : enough of the other nutrients that cats need. When I give my cats : tuna, it is *always* "human grade"... the "pet food" is usually : garbage... Not sure what you are suggesting. Is all pet food garbage, or the just the ones containing tuna, or a specific brand? Not disagreeing with you, just trying to clarify. > : Occasional "human grade" tuna is ok, but not as the main diet. Not > : enough of the other nutrients that cats need. When I give my cats [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > the ones containing tuna, or a specific brand? Not disagreeing with > you, just trying to clarify. ____________________________________ Sorry Kiran for being so vague... I was referring to most grocery store "pet food"... Look at the labels, and the first ingredient is what the bulk of the item really is... meat by-products (do a Google search on it)... chicken or mystery meat "meal" (another Google search hee hee)... etc etc... There are some much better foods, found at stores like PetSmart or Mini Pet Mart, etc... Too long to list all of them... do a Google search on "quality cat foods" and see what you come up with. I like Nutro, Max Cat, Avoderm, and other similar ones. I'm sure there might be even better out there, but I have to use what my local stores carry. We vary our cats' food a lot, and try to use the better quality foods. Just my opinion that stuff like "Friskies", "9 Lives", etc, is just crap, so nobody slam me for it please... LOL (So many people in this group in bad moods all the time LOL) Catgirl : Sorry Kiran for being so vague... I was referring to most grocery store : "pet food"... Look at the labels, and the first ingredient is what the [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] : better quality foods. Just my opinion that stuff like "Friskies", "9 : Lives", etc, is just crap, so nobody slam me for it please... OK I understand. I shop mostly at Petsmart and buy Iams, Fancy Feast, Science Diet level. I prefer Petsmart to Target etc because of greater variety and most brands are available in single cans so I can experiment. When I need to buy cheap, it is Friskies. Somehow it looks better than Whiskas. I avoid 9Lives because they only come in 4-packs. > I occasionally feed her tuna chunks as treats which are greatly > appreciated. I buy tuna packed in water. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > cchemicals that may be in the packing fluids etc. As for the taste, my > cat loves that tuna water. I've heard the tuna for people has too much salt in it for cats. I'm not sure if that's true...but I'd *carefully* check the salt content or consult a vet... (although I'm sure if you just feed her the tuna occasionally it would be OK) : I've heard the tuna for people has too much salt in it for cats. It probably has too much salt for humans as well. :) : (although I'm sure if you just feed her the tuna occasionally it : would be OK) Right now it's about 2 cans a month. In rec.pets.cats.health+behav Kiran <kiran@no.email> wrote: : I occasionally feed her tuna chunks as treats which are greatly : appreciated. I buy tuna packed in water. : My question is: Is it ok to serve tuna in the water it came packed in, : or should the water be discarded? : I ask because I recall hearing different opinions on what to do with : canned people food (which is what this tuna is), about salt and other : cchemicals that may be in the packing fluids etc. As for the taste, my : cat loves that tuna water. I had a cat that came down with FIV. At one point he nearly died when he stopped eating and drinking. The only food I could get him to eat was tuna and he would only drink the water in the can. While the vet warned that tuna intended for humans are good for cats long term. He did agree that it was better that he eat the tuna then nothing. I forget exactly why the vet said the tuna was bad for cat, but it had something to do with the level of minerals in the tuna was bad for cats. Signature------------------- Keep working millions on welfare depend on you Does tuna have mercury in it? There is something in tuna that eating it in large quantities can be harmful to pregnant women or something like that. > : My question is: Is it ok to serve tuna in the water it came packed in, > : or should the water be discarded? [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > I forget exactly why the vet said the tuna was bad for cat, but it had > something to do with the level of minerals in the tuna was bad for cats. > Does tuna have mercury in it? There is something in tuna > that eating it in large quantities can be harmful to > pregnant women or something like that. Hi- This is where a lot of people get confused, so did I once, so I did a bunch of research, and here is what I learned. "Human" tuna has more salt in it than cats should eat, it can be used like a treat, or even as a meal, but only once in a while, even though it is about 1/2 the price of premium cat food, lol, as it can contribute to FUS ( Feline Urological (sp?) Sydrome ) (Because of the salt) and FUS can kill your cat in about 24-48 hours. The tuna in most "Premium" cat food, like Fancy Feast for example, is "Human" tuna, just without so much added salt. "Cat" tuna, ie: RED tuna, should not be eaten by anything on this planet, this is where the mercury comes in. Regular tuna has mercury in it, but so does almost every fish that comes from the sea, thank industry for that, but red tuna feeds differently than other species and its mercury content is so high it cannot be sold as humen food in most countries of the world. Pregnant women should stay away from ocean fish in general, simply because even the minute quantities of mercury that are in it won't be absorbed by her, studies have shown it gets mostly absorbed by the baby instead. HTH :-) >"Human" tuna has more salt in it than cats should eat, it can >be used like a treat, or even as a meal, but only once in a >while, even though it is about 1/2 the price of premium cat >food, lol, as it can contribute to FUS ( Feline Urological >(sp?) Sydrome ) (Because of the salt) and FUS can kill your >cat in about 24-48 hours. It's not the sodium that can contribute to FUS, it's the excess minerals (phosphorus, magnesium, etc.) that can do that. Fish products can be high in minerals but feeding as a treat is fine. In fact, excess sodium is sometimes in cat food that is used for cats that have just a blockage from FUS in order to get them to start drinking more water. : I did a bunch of research, and here is what I learned. : [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] : "Cat" tuna, ie: RED tuna, should not be eaten by anything on : this planet, this is where the mercury comes in... Thanks. So white "cat" tuna is ok, white "people" tuna is too salty, and all red tuna is no-no. Is salt the reason why my cat prefers human tuna to tuna cat food? > Is salt the reason why my cat prefers human tuna to tuna > cat food? Your welcome, glad to be of help. :-) And it could be, some cat's like salt, but I would wager that its more likely that because you eat the other one, kittie probably would rather share what mommy has, lol. Mine would prefer whatever is on MY plate most of the time. Cat tuna also has other flavors in it too, and people tuna has no "Fish By- products".(well at least thats what they claim on the side of the can.......) > > Is salt the reason why my cat prefers human tuna to tuna cat food? > > Your welcome, glad to be of help. :-) Admit it. You just want to get your liver-spotted old mitts into Kiran's underpants, you old perv! > And it could be, some cat's like salt, but I would wager that > its more likely that because you eat the other one, kittie > probably would rather share what mommy has, lol. "lol". Heh! And "mommy"! Have you any idea how ridiculous you sound?! > Mine would prefer whatever is on MY plate most of the time. Eeeyuurgh! You disgusting old sh.t! > Cat tuna also has other flavors in it too, and people tuna has no > "Fish By-products".(well at least thats what they claim on the side > of the can.......) Stop stalking Kiran, Perv! >Thanks. So white "cat" tuna is ok, white "people" tuna is too salty, >and all red tuna is no-no. If you're feeding it as a treat, there is nothing wrong with "people" tuna. As long as it's not fed everyday, there is nothing wrong with your cat eating it or the salt that's in it. I've been doing it for 14 years. : >Thanks. So white "cat" tuna is ok, white "people" tuna is too salty, : >and all red tuna is no-no. : : If you're feeding it as a treat, there is nothing wrong with "people" tuna. : As long as it's not fed everyday, there is nothing wrong with your cat eating : it or the salt that's in it. I've been doing it for 14 years. How often do you give it? What would be a safe frequency to feed one cat a 5.5 oz can: Once every week? Two wwks? Month? >How often do you give it? What would be a safe frequency to feed one >cat a 5.5 oz can: Once every week? Two wwks? Month? I only give it a couple times a month; sometimes I used canned salmon instead, which they also love. I would give a quarter of a 5.5 oz can each and then use the rest to make myself a sandwhich. By the way, albacore tuna is the highest in mercury if you're concerned about that (although feeding tuna just as a treat shouldn't expose them to too much). The funny thing is, it's also the most expensive canned tuna. So it's actually better to buy the cheaper kinds like skipjack and get less mercury! >"Human" tuna has more salt in it than cats should eat, it can >be used like a treat, or even as a meal, but only once in a >while, even though it is about 1/2 the price of premium cat >food, lol, as it can contribute to FUS ( Feline Urological >(sp?) Sydrome ) (Because of the salt) and FUS can kill your >cat in about 24-48 hours. Interesting stuff, thanks ! Mine gets about 1 x 6.5oz tin a fortnight of tuna in brine as I can't easily get tuna in water. I drain the brine out and flush it through with tap or bottled water a couple of times. Do you think this is OK or should I stop doing it ? Daytona >Mine gets about 1 x 6.5oz tin a fortnight of tuna in brine as I can't >easily get tuna in water. I drain the brine out and flush it through >with tap or bottled water a couple of times. Do you think this is OK >or should I stop doing it ? It's not the salt that can contribute to FUS, it's minerals such as phosphorus, magnesium, etc. which can be high in fish products. A couple times a month doesn't sound bad but I'm surprised he eats a whole 6.5 oz can, that's the same size as a can of cat food. I usually just give a small plateful. >: I occasionally feed her tuna chunks as treats which are greatly >: appreciated. I buy tuna packed in water. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >: cchemicals that may be in the packing fluids etc. As for the taste, my >: cat loves that tuna water. I give my four babies a small can of tuna a week for the four of them. I asked my vet at http://vethealthcenter.com/ about it and she said that it would not hurt them as long as that was all I gave them and they still got their regular cat food which they do. http://members.aol.com/larrystark/ > In rec.pets.cats.health+behav Kiran <kiran@no.email> wrote: > : I occasionally feed her tuna chunks as treats which are greatly [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > I forget exactly why the vet said the tuna was bad for cat, but it had > something to do with the level of minerals in the tuna was bad for cats. I fix a tuna sandwich for lunch about once a week. TuTu gets a tuna lunch that day also. It is her favorite food. She has Iams low cal and Iams hairball as her regular diet. I also give her a small lunch of Fancy Feast but she will only eat FF tuna, whitefish w/tuna or chicken w/tuna. She ignores beef or anything with chunks or gravy. MLB |
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