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Help - my new kitten is hiding and won't come out :-(

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potatan@gmail.com - 29 Apr 2006 14:39 GMT
Hello all,

I brought a new kitten home yesterday evening, but he was being
understandably shy.  I managed to coax him out from under a low chest
of drawers, and spent an hour or so with him happily purring on my lap.
When I went to bed however, he managed to find his way into the gap
behind the kitchen sink cupboard, and has been there ever since (it is
now 2:30pm, just under 24 hours since I brought him home).

I don't think he has eaten anything so far, despite attempts to coax
him out with the food he has been used to.  I think he must have been
out to use his litter tray, but only for urination so far.

He's obviously a little scared and lonely, but will he come out
eventually, e.g. when he is hungry?  Or should I start taking the
kitchen apart?  

Any help or tips appreciated, thanks in advance.
Wayne Boatwright - 29 Apr 2006 15:10 GMT
On Sat 29 Apr 2006 06:39:34a, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it ?

> Hello all,
>
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>
> Any help or tips appreciated, thanks in advance.

I wouldn't worry yet.  Put bowls of food and water close to where he's
"hiding".  He'll come out when he feels more secure.

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philo - 29 Apr 2006 15:15 GMT
<snip>

> I wouldn't worry yet.  Put bowls of food and water close to where he's
> "hiding".  He'll come out when he feels more secure.

yep...
the kitty will come out all by himself
cat lover - 29 Apr 2006 17:37 GMT
> <snip>
>>
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> yep...
> the kitty will come out all by himself

Yes we had this with our kitten for the first few days, although she was
playful, they like to have a place to feel safe, give him time and leave
food and water close by, be ok in the end, you will be wishing for this
peacefulness in weeks to come...
potatan@gmail.com - 29 Apr 2006 17:43 GMT
Thanks for all the reassurance - he keeps crying, probably for his
mother/brothers/sisters and some familiarity.  I don't think he is
genuinely stuck, as the litter has been used, and I'm sure he can turn
around and find his way out when he finally wants to.  Maybe when he
does, I'll block the hole and keep him in the kitchen until he is less
shy.

One other point, should I consider blocking the chimney in my living
room (not the kitchen as there isn't one there)?  It is a proper
working chimney - but I am in the basement (lower ground floor) of a 4
storey building, so it's a long way to the top :-)

Thanks in advance
rrb - 29 Apr 2006 19:08 GMT
> Thanks for all the reassurance - he keeps crying, probably for his
> mother/brothers/sisters and some familiarity.  I don't think he is
> genuinely stuck, as the litter has been used, and I'm sure he can turn
> around and find his way out when he finally wants to.  Maybe when he
> does, I'll block the hole and keep him in the kitchen until he is less
> shy.

Are you sure he isn't crying because he is stuck and can't get out?  I
personally would get him out, and then block it off as well as any other
similar crawl spaces he could get into. Afterwards I would confine him
to a single room - preferable a bedroom - until he feels secure enough
to come out on his own.

> One other point, should I consider blocking the chimney in my living
> room (not the kitchen as there isn't one there)?  It is a proper
> working chimney - but I am in the basement (lower ground floor) of a 4
> storey building, so it's a long way to the top :-)

I would block it off at least for a little while. It is unlikely he
would or could climb it but who knows? I wouldn't chance it.
potatan@gmail.com - 29 Apr 2006 23:38 GMT
he is now sat on my lap!  :-D
Wayne Boatwright - 30 Apr 2006 00:47 GMT
On Sat 29 Apr 2006 03:38:32p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it ?

> he is now sat on my lap!  :-D

That's good news, and should reassure you.  It does take some time, but he'll
come around.  Think about how you might respond if you were taken away from
your family, put in a strange place, and didn't speak the language. :-)

I'm sure he'll be just fine.  Keep us posted on his progress.

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potatan@gmail.com - 30 Apr 2006 15:46 GMT
Okay, he's getting more and more friendly now (it's only been two days)
and we just had a little play and a nap together on the sofa.

But as far as I can tell, he hasn't eaten anything yet.  I have put out
two types of kitten biscuits, and opened a pouch of kitten chunks which
seemed to interest him when I opened it under his nose, but despite
coaxing and stroking, he doesn't seem to want to eat.

Can it be normal for a new kitten to go for 48 hours without eating?

Many thanks
Wayne Boatwright - 30 Apr 2006 16:00 GMT
On Sun 30 Apr 2006 07:46:17a, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it ?

> Okay, he's getting more and more friendly now (it's only been two days)
> and we just had a little play and a nap together on the sofa.
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>
> Can it be normal for a new kitten to go for 48 hours without eating?

Are you sure he's eaten nothing?  Yes, it could be normal, but I'm sure he
will eat something when he's hungry enough.  You might try some of the
special milk/cream product made especially for cats.  It might encourage him.  
Cats do not digest regular dairy products correctly.

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Rhonda - 30 Apr 2006 17:47 GMT
How old is your kitten? Was he completely weaned?

You could contact the original owner and see what type of kitten food he
ate there. Try keeping everything as much the same as possible for awhile.

You might also try getting some KR (Kitten Milk REplacement) from the
pet store and mixing it with soft food. That could get him interested.
Have you tried canned kitten food by itself?

I think 48 hours is way too long, try everything you can!

Good luck,

Rhonda

> Okay, he's getting more and more friendly now (it's only been two days)
> and we just had a little play and a nap together on the sofa.
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>
> Many thanks
Rhonda - 30 Apr 2006 17:49 GMT

> You might also try getting some KR (Kitten Milk Replacement)

That should be "KMR" instead of "KR."

I got stuck in spell-check...

Rhonda
potatan@gmail.com - 30 Apr 2006 18:05 GMT
He was 15 weeks old when I brought him home, so fully weaned.  The
breeder was very vague (and a bit mad, it must be said, trousers held
up with string), she said she had been feeding the litter lately on
minced raw meat.  She gave me a complimentary box of kitten biscuits -
so I have a bowl of those, a bowl of major-brand kitten dry food, and a
bowl of kitten meaty chunks, as well as fresh water.

He seems happy enough at the moment, so maybe he is sneaking mouthfuls
when I am not looking.  He is meeowing a lot, but I put that down to
loneliness after being in the company of brothers/sisters/mother/aunt
for 15 weeks.  We'll see.

Here he is, btw http://www.zerodanger.com/milo/

Thanks
Catgirl - 30 Apr 2006 22:04 GMT
Hi, the KMR mixed with soft kitten food is a good idea.  Please also
call around to the different vets offices (not all of them carry this)
and ask for "Feline Rebound".  You don't need an Rx to get it, but as
far as I know, only vets offices carry it. It is a flavorful (to
kitties!) milky stuff, but unlike KMR, the Feline Rebound has 100% of
required calories, vitamins, minerals and fiber that kittens and cats
need, including Taurine, which is vital to cats and is also not found
in KMR.  Feline Rebound is spendier than KMR, but worth it.  It is
perfect for kittens, as well as elderly cats inclined towards frailty,
really gives them a boost.  Nutri-Cal, a high-calorie dietary
supplement paste is also great and most kitties love it... but it does
not have the Taurine like Feline Rebound does.  Whichever stuff you
try, remember most kitties don't go readily for cold stuff... they
can't smell it as easily, and it is not as palatable.  Keep the Feline
Rebound refrigerated after opening, but for feedings, warm it to room
temp.  If your kitty still won't go for it, try dabbing some on the
paw, to stimulate interest in the taste.  Good luck with your new
little one!  :)

Catgirl
Wayne Boatwright - 30 Apr 2006 22:39 GMT
On Sun 30 Apr 2006 10:05:57a, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it ?

> He was 15 weeks old when I brought him home, so fully weaned.  The
> breeder was very vague (and a bit mad, it must be said, trousers held
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>
> Thanks

Aw, he's a cutie!

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Rhonda - 01 May 2006 04:51 GMT
Oh boy, sounds like this kitten doesn't know what cat food is! The
kitten is going through a lot of changes and now has to change foods
completely. I can't believe the breeder didn't make the transition
easier than that.

If the kitten is used to raw meat, maybe the canned kitten food will
work better than the other things you are trying.

If will not eat anything by tomorrow, I would take him for a vet check.

Let us know how he's doing,

Rhonda

> He was 15 weeks old when I brought him home, so fully weaned.  The
> breeder was very vague (and a bit mad, it must be said, trousers held
> up with string), she said she had been feeding the litter lately on
> minced raw meat.  
potatan@gmail.com - 01 May 2006 08:16 GMT
Well there seemed to be evidence this morning that he has eaten a
little.  I have just put out two fresh bowls, one of soft meat chunks
in gravy (Whiskas for kittens) and some of the dry biscuits that the
breeder gave me.  I have weighed both bowls, so I can check later what
has been eaten, if anything.  I have left water for him too, obviously.
We shall see.

I have also blocked up the chimney, as he was taking a decided interest
in it yesterday

Thanks
Unknown One - 01 May 2006 13:46 GMT
>Okay, he's getting more and more friendly now (it's only been two days)
>and we just had a little play and a nap together on the sofa.
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
>Many thanks

Have you tryed any canned foods ??
wester@laway.net - 30 Apr 2006 01:45 GMT
>he is now sat on my lap!  :-D

Wonderful! Give him as much attention, pets, brushing, and playtime as
you can. He knows a human servant when he sees one!

;-)
rrb - 01 May 2006 00:45 GMT
> he is now sat on my lap!  :-D

Glad to hear the he came out. Did you close off the entrance that he got
into? Crawlspaces below cabinets or in the back of bathroom cabinets are
common.  I would check for them and close them off, at least temporarily
until he gets bigger.
Wayne Boatwright - 30 Apr 2006 00:45 GMT
On Sat 29 Apr 2006 09:43:14a, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it ?

> Thanks for all the reassurance - he keeps crying, probably for his
> mother/brothers/sisters and some familiarity.  I don't think he is
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> Thanks in advance

If the chimney has a damper in the top of the fireplace, then I wouldn't
bother.  Otherwise, it might be a good idea.

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rrb - 01 May 2006 00:49 GMT
> If the chimney has a damper in the top of the fireplace, then I wouldn't
> bother.  Otherwise, it might be a good idea.

I guess you missed the part where he said he is on the bottom floor, and
that the top of the fireplace is four stories up! So it IS a good idea
to close it off in light of that - at least for a while.
Wayne Boatwright - 01 May 2006 02:26 GMT
On Sun 30 Apr 2006 04:49:56p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it rrb?

>> If the chimney has a damper in the top of the fireplace, then I wouldn't
>> bother.  Otherwise, it might be a good idea.
>
> I guess you missed the part where he said he is on the bottom floor, and
> that the top of the fireplace is four stories up! So it IS a good idea
> to close it off in light of that - at least for a while.

No, I didn't miss that part.  It is not uncommon for multiple fireplaces to
each have a damper between the fire chamber and the chimney area it feeds
into.  It's used for sealing off a draft and/or partically controlling the
burn.  Single fireplaces, of course, feed directly and solely into the
chimney built above it.

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~*Connie*~ - 29 Apr 2006 17:14 GMT
the kitty will come out on its own (unless of course it really is stuck)
however I might be inclined to remove it myself and then confine it to a
much smaller space (say a bathroom) until the kitty gets over its shyness.
Go in and play with it with an interactive toy, hand feed it,, and generally
get it used to you.  When it is at the door screaming for your attention,
then consider letting it back into the rest of the house.

> Hello all,
>
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>
> Any help or tips appreciated, thanks in advance.
 
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