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Cat Forum / General Topics / May 2006My cat keeps missing the box, but there's more...
It all started around a year ago. My cat likes to pee in the corner of the box, and every once in a while he'd cut it so close that the stream would go clear over the side of the box and onto the floor. Then, he just started GOING on the floor. I've tried different things to stop this, new litterbox, new litter, new location, combinations of the above, but to no avail. Sometimes it'll work for a few days, but eventually he misses the box and then reverts to his outside-the-box-eliminator ways. It seems like this is a fairly common problem. Is there any known solution? Could try a covered litter tray. Also, have you cleaned the 'accidents' with a proprietary solution to remove the enzymes (such as Simple Solution)? If vestiges of the urine remain, puss will be driven to top them up. Although this does sound like a litter tray problem but it's always wise to check with a vet before going down the behavioural route. http://www.fabcats.org/spraying.html >It all started around a year ago. My cat likes to pee in the corner of the >box, and every once in a while he'd cut it so close that the stream would go [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >It seems like this is a fairly common problem. Is there any known solution? > Could try a covered litter tray. I have. He gets all four feet in the box, and then a.s and tail sticking out of the box, and then pee's straight out onto the floor. > Also, have you cleaned the 'accidents' with > a proprietary solution to remove the enzymes (such as Simple Solution)? I do use this. I have a lifetime supply... >I have. He gets all four feet in the box, and then a.s and tail sticking >out of the box, and then pee's straight out onto the floor. Sometimes mine does this too. Put a rubber mat at the entry; you can get them at pet stores or you can use the floor mats that people use in their car as they are bigger. If he pees out the door, it'll just go onto the mat and then you can pour it out (into toilet or whereever you choose to get rid of it). > Sometimes mine does this too. Put a rubber mat at the entry; you can get > them at pet stores or you can use the floor mats that people use in their [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > of > it). So basically there is no "cure" for this? I was kinda hoping that there's a way to retrain him to make it in the litterbox. >So basically there is no "cure" for this? I was kinda hoping that there's a >way to retrain him to make it in the litterbox. How about the covered boxes that also have a door? That way, there is no place at all that his urine can come out and hit the floor. It either hits the sides of the covered box or it hits the door. Sorry, me again, I should also have said that some cats prefer to urinate and defecate in separate trays. This may explain why he's urinating in a corner. So I'd also try two trays - these need to be in completely different areas of the house, not next to each other. >It all started around a year ago. My cat likes to pee in the corner of the >box, and every once in a while he'd cut it so close that the stream would go [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >It seems like this is a fairly common problem. Is there any known solution? 0to60 wrote the following on 4/27/2006 6:53 AM: > It all started around a year ago. My cat likes to pee in the corner of the > box, and every once in a while he'd cut it so close that the stream would go > clear over the side of the box and onto the floor. A box with very high sides and/or a cover? I have one large cat who pushes up against a corner and would miss if not for a high-sided, covered box. I found that the Bouda boxes don't work for her because when she peed against the cover it would end up dripping outside of the box because of the way the lid fit on. I've never had a problem with the largest VanNess box. Karen R. >0to60 wrote the following on 4/27/2006 6:53 AM: >> It all started around a year ago. My cat likes to pee in the corner of the [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > >Karen R. I would add i've had cats who didn't like the litter box cover. Also some cats have trouble figuring out how to use a litter box door. > I would add i've had cats who didn't like the litter box cover. Also > some cats have trouble figuring out how to use a litter box door. What is there to figure out? >> I would add i've had cats who didn't like the litter box cover. Also >> some cats have trouble figuring out how to use a litter box door. > >What is there to figure out? The cat would try to squeeze to the right or left of the door. It's like the cat tried to go into the door head on was stopped for some reason so then it would try to squeeze in on the right or left side. I even tried attempting to show the cat how to use the door. > > > I would add i've had cats who didn't like the litter box cover. Also > > > some cats have trouble figuring out how to use a litter box door. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > I even tried attempting to show the cat how to use the door. Errr ........ yes. Let's see. You got on your hands & knees, with the cat looking on, presumably cooing banal, crazed sh.t to it, like "Ooooh look, Tiddly-Widdly, dis is ow Snookums does go through-woo da ickle door-door, see?" . . . . after which you probably (and very helpfully) butted your head against the said door just to belabour the point. I also assume that all the while you were making exaggerated pointing motions with your hands, towards the door, in an insane attempt at further explaining the point to what is obviously an extremely unintelligent and/or emotionally abused animal. You weirdo loonies should be banned from owning animals. You really should. R. Sole, living up to his name, said (snippety do dah): Errr ........ yes. You weirdo loonies should be banned from owning animals. You really should. __________________________________________ LOL What an ugly life you must live inside yourself. I can not even imagine what it must be like to be you. What are you even doing here? Go join some hate group and be among your own kind, you ugly, arrogant excuse for a human being. LOL Catgirl With mine, its not so much that they couldn't figure out how to use the covered litterbox door, but they didn't LIKE it. When I first brought home covered litterboxes with those flapping door things on them, they would hesitate at it, and poke around at it, and eventually did go through the flapping thing... but I knew they didn't like it. I wouldn't either, I don't guess, and so just took the door off, and from then on, they freely go in and out of the large covered litterboxes with no apprehensions. Catgirl > It all started around a year ago. My cat likes to pee in the corner of > the box, and every once in a while he'd cut it so close that the stream [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > It seems like this is a fairly common problem. Is there any known solution? There is, indeed, Oto, and a very simple one it is too. Simply cover the surrounding floor with metal foil and pass an electrical current (from the mains, preferably, or a car battery setup will do) to it. Then, when urination occurs, the disciplinary jolt will persuade the recalcitrant feline to pee in the right place. Alternatively, if the thought of electrically shocking cats is too much for you to consider, a good, hard kick right up its arse should do the trick. And if THAT doesn't work, just have the cat put down and get another one that looks just like the original (cats are all the same anyway, so it doesn't matter). Hope this helps. >It all started around a year ago. My cat likes to pee in the corner of the >box, and every once in a while he'd cut it so close that the stream would go [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >It seems like this is a fairly common problem. Is there any known solution? Make sure the litter box you get has a high sides. > It all started around a year ago. My cat likes to pee in the corner of the > box, and every once in a while he'd cut it so close that the stream would go [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > It seems like this is a fairly common problem. Is there any known solution? Yup. http://maxshouse.com/Environmental_Enrichment/litterbox-rubbermaid-high.jpg http://maxshouse.com/Environmental_Enrichment/litter_box-dog-2.jpg > Yup. > > http://maxshouse.com/Environmental_Enrichment/litterbox-rubbermaid-high.jpg This is the one I have, and he pee's right out the entry cutout. > > Yup. http://maxshouse.com/Environmental_Enrichment/litterbox-rubbermaid-high.jpg > This is the one I have, and he pee's right out the entry cutout. f.cking hell! He does? Jesus. As Syd Barrett once said "That cat's something I can't explain"! This situation of yours is getting worse. I think it's time to get down to the nitty gritty. f.ck all that electrocution sh.t. What you SHOULD do is this : Collect a fortnight's worth of your OWN urine, and keep it in one of those pressurised beer-barrels; the kind you can fit a small carbon-dioxide cylinder to. Pump some gas in till the pressure's high, then wait for your disgusting cat to do its business. Then, hiding behind the barrel, wait till the cat "pee's right out the entry cutout" and *immediately* turn the barrel tap on, drenching the unfortunate animal in your 2-week-old, stale urine. Do this several times till it learns, the dirty little f.cker. > > Yup. http://maxshouse.com/Environmental_Enrichment/litterbox-rubbermaid-high.jpg > This is the one I have, and he pee's right out the entry cutout. These would be the next step: http://maxshouse.com/misc/mixing_tubs.jpg So I bought a large cage and put the litterbox, food, water, a blanket and the little miscreant into it. Now, I don't have the heart to leave him in there full time, but I do put him in the cage when I'm not around and at night. He NEVER has a problem when he's living in the cage. He demonstrates 100% accuracy. But, then I let him out of the cage and leave the door to the cage open and he roams the house freely. When its time to pee, he enters the cage, steps into the box and promptly pees right over the side of the box and onto the cage floor-liner. What the hell, mel? Why is he doing this? He CLEARLY has the ability to aim correctly when he's gonna live in the box. But if he's walking around, he misses by a mile. I don't get it!!!! One more piece of information: when he's locked in the cage, he won't lay on the blanket I give him! He sits in the litterbox. That's right, he sits in the litterbox, opposite his perfectly-placed pee clump. Now, if this problem were the other way around (when he stays in the cage, he lays in the 'box and thus pees outside the box), I could understand it. But this makes no sense. When he stays in the cage, he prefers to lounge in the box (which isn't so strange, I see caged cats in shelters doing this all the time) but he pees in it 100% accurately and never misses a drop. Please help. > So I bought a large cage and put the litterbox, food, water, a blanket and > the little miscreant into it. Now, I don't have the heart to leave him in [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Please help. Oto - this is really getting serious. First of all, be aware that we - all your friends in alt.pets.cats - are behind you in this 100%. We will get through this terrible situation TOGETHER. The rest of us have been communicating by email and REALLY getting to grips with the situation, and after MANY days of careful deliberations we have come to a conclusion that will, hopefully, be beneficial to all relevant parties, including the leaking feline in question. The only thing to do is to have the cat put down. This would (a) put it out of its misery (b) put YOU out of your misery (c) put US out of our misery And then just buy a new cat. By training it from kittenhood how to urinate properly - by careful application of horrific beatings, electrocution, and whipping - it should end up giving you (and us) no grief. If you every wander through a cat kennel or visit PetSmart or one of the other pet stores when they have adoptable cats on display, the cats are in a cage and many of them are lying in their litterbox. I've been told it is something that makes a cat placed in an unfamiliar, insecure setting feel more secure. Whenever I boarded my cat, I was told she spent the first few days in her litter box. Have you experimented with your litter box? When my cat got older and arthritic, it was difficult for her to squat down and so she peed over the side of the litter box. I bought a box with taller sides but a front she could still step over easily. Don't assume that litter box problems are always behavioral. Have you taken him to a vet for evaluation? > So I bought a large cage and put the litterbox, food, water, a blanket and > the little miscreant into it. Now, I don't have the heart to leave him in [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > Please help. > > It all started around a year ago. My cat likes to pee in the corner of > > the box, and every once in a while he'd cut it so close that the stream [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Yup. http://maxshouse.com/Environmental_Enrichment/litterbox-rubbermaid-high.jpg > http://maxshouse.com/Environmental_Enrichment/litter_box-dog-2.jpg Wow, Phil! Those are some great pics! Seems a shame that they should only be used by dirty, filthy cats to piss into, doesn't it? They'd make great bread boxes, or something. Especially if you fitted them with lids, and all that. Amongst other uses, I'd bet. Oh yes. You seem like an interesting guy! What about you and me, some night, getting together for a spot of cat-killing? So I bought a large cage and put the litterbox, food, water, a blanket and the little miscreant into it. Now, I don't have the heart to leave him in there full time, but I do put him in the cage when I'm not around and at night. He NEVER has a problem when he's living in the cage. He demonstrates 100% accuracy. But, then I let him out of the cage and leave the door to the cage open and he roams the house freely. When its time to pee, he enters the cage, steps into the box and promptly pees right over the side of the box and onto the cage floor-liner. What the hell, mel? Why is he doing this? He CLEARLY has the ability to aim correctly when he's gonna live in the box. But if he's walking around, he misses by a mile. I don't get it!!!! One more piece of information: when he's locked in the cage, he won't lay on the blanket I give him! He sits in the litterbox. That's right, he sits in the litterbox, opposite his perfectly-placed pee clump. Now, if this problem were the other way around (when he stays in the cage, he lays in the 'box and thus pees outside the box), I could understand it. But this makes no sense. When he stays in the cage, he prefers to lounge in the box (which isn't so strange, I see caged cats in shelters doing this all the time) but he pees in it 100% accurately and never misses a drop. Please help. Mmm, running out of ideas. Here's another link - try the suggestion in the last para. Could age be the issue as suggested here, or can you think of anything, however small, that could have triggered this? Otherwise, I think it's to the vet to request a referral to a behaviourist. http://wizz-catz.co.uk/littertray.html >So I bought a large cage and put the litterbox, food, water, a blanket and >the little miscreant into it. Now, I don't have the heart to leave him in [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > >Please help. Did you buy a high sided litterbox with a lid? There's no way he can pee over the top of those. If he's peeing out the entrance, then cut some strips of plastic and hang them vertically over the entrance like you see with some cat/dog doors. Dave > So I bought a large cage and put the litterbox, food, water, a blanket and > the little miscreant into it. Now, I don't have the heart to leave him in [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > Please help. |
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