I remember when I was really young asking my grandfather what cats ate when
he was young  his answer  what ever varmint was in the barn.  He remember
grand ma giving the cats the left overs from the meal of the day.that they
could no use.  Now we are talking about when meals were still hand prepared
you went out caught the chicken, killed the chicken  and  cleaned it before
you cooked it.  This is the time when a trip to a country store was a
monthly maybe bi yearly thing.  We were country folk growing up

My mum used to cook up once a week the cats and dog food - mostly a
variation on Irish stew, meat and veges. We also gave the cats raw chicken
bones and a lamb bone to our dog. My dog also liked the occasional small
bowl of Fosters!

Until around 5 years ago I used to slow cook a rabbit for my dearly departed
Burmese Mr M of 23 years. He would only eat 'regular' food. No tinned stuff
for him!!

on Thursday 06 April 2006 12:40 am, Ajanta blabbed incessantly producing the
following:

They were fed table scraps. The ancient Egyptians fed them specially
prepared food for their house gods, but aside from that they were fed
whatever the people ate.

When I was a kid, we fed our cats raw (and cooked) meat, liver, kidneys,
heart, etc.  One cat liked corn on the cob.  They were indoor/outdoor cats
so they also helped themselves to what they could catch outside.  They
also did not live very long.   We also fed them cheap canned sardines.
MLB

I remember when I was young and that is a long time ago, I would go to my
grandfathers farm every two weeks. He always had a big dog to bring the cows
home and of course where there is a barn and cows there are cats. Every time
lunch was over my aunt would gather the leftovers my cousins and myself had
left behind put that in a metal plate and bring it to the barn. That would
include leftover meat veggies, salade whatever and the animals would gobble
it down. No pets were fixed so the barn was full of cats and my grandfather
would shoot the milk direct from the cow into the cats mouth, where they
would gather around at 5:00pm. What fond memories.

Java

HOWEDY Ajanta,

Here's all the information you gotta know abHOWET dog food:

HOWEDY Neil and Julie,

Neil and Julie wrote:

ALL commercial dog food is GARBAGE.

A Purdue University study says dogs fed dry dogfood preserved
with citric acid in it have a 320% increased chance of bloat. It also
says that dry food with citric acid should never be premoisted with
water:

http://www.vet.purdue.edu/epi/dietrisk.htm

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Tainted pet food blamed in death
Dog suffered kidney failure, put down

Friday, March 17th, 2006

By Alexandra Paul

A Gimli woman is grieving her dog that was euthanized
after getting sick from eating a bad batch of tinned
pet food.

Christine Smith says she had her six-year-old collie-cross,
Molly, put down when the pet suffered kidney failure from
its diet of Royal Canin pet food, a brand sold exclusively
through veterinarians.

The parent company for the makers of the pet food, Mars Inc.
in Hackettstown N.J., recalled seven lines of its Royal Canin
dog and cat foods after discovering an error in the vitamin
formula from one of its suppliers.

Canin company executives say they recalled the food as a precaution
because it contains elevated levels of vitamin D-3. It can cause a
loss of appetite, lethargy, excessive drinking and urination in some
pets.

That's what happened to Molly in November.

In her case, the reaction proved fatal.

Smith's dog was eating one of the affected brands -- voluntarily
recalled everywhere in North America in February -- when her
symptoms cascaded and her kidneys failed.

At the time, Smith and her vet believed the dog had cancer.

It wasn't until last month when the brand-maker discovered the
problem, recalled the food and not ified thousands of vets across
Canada and the United States that the real culprit was uncovered.

Molly is believed to be only pet in Canada to be euthanized
after eating the pet food.

"The unfortunate circumstances surrounding Molly makes this a
very unique and sad case," said Royal Canin veterinarian Dr.
Brent Matthews in a formal statement from his office in Guelph, Ont.

The dog suffered from a condition known as hypercalcemia,
which is treatable.

Smith said her vet in Gimli notified her about the problem
after taking a call about the recall from the pet-food maker.

This week, Royal Canin company executives made a trip from
their Canadian headquarters in Toronto to see Smith at her
Gimli home on the shores of Lake Winnipeg.

Royal Canin is reimbursing Smith for vet bills.

"It was an awful shock. I loved her and Royal Canin has been
wonderful. We all feel terrible, but I feel they've been
exceptional with me. When I cried, they crie d. They're
wonderful people," Smith said.

Vets are substituting other brands for the recalled pet food.
Canin is covering the costs. Royal Canin has a hotline for
concerned pet owners and vets to call. It is 800-567-8900.

alexandra.p...@freepress.mb.ca

What was recalled

Recalled Royal Canin pet food lines:

* Canine LOW FAT LF canned (best before 06/07).

* Canine CALORIE CONTROL CC in gel canned (best before 04/07 and
07/07).

* Canine Urinary SO (best before 05/07 and 06/07).

* Feline Sensitivity VR canned (best before 05/07).

* Feline Sensitivity CR canned (best before 01/08 and earlier).

* Feline CALORIE CONTROL CC canned (best before 01/08 and earlier).

* Feline RENAL LP pouch (best before 06/07 and earlier).

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Here's HOWE The Freakin Simply Amazing  Puppy Wizard feeds his dogs:

            Breakfast At The Puppy Wizard's -
                  Chez du Chien -
                 Gourmet Recipies

HOWEDY People,

Unbeknownst to yourselves, this has been a difficult
couple weeks for Your Puppy Wizard. Not to complain,
but he's been necessarily temporarily abandoned by
his Mrs.Puppy Wizard who had to attend to affairs out
of town for nine days.

Left alone, helpless and hapless to cope with domestic
and personal needs, to fend for HISSELF and his pups by
his own devices, his Mrs. Puppy Wizard HOWEver, is
considerate and foresighted enough to prepare His table
before him, in advance, and even calls to remind him to
breath, when necessary.

Your Puppy Wizard requires little from the physical realm,
existing primarily on prahana and nirvana as his staple diet.
HOWEver, his puppies unfortunately cannot thrive in the
physical world without the grounding effects of the evils
of wholesome food.

Mrs. Puppy Wizard prepares daily, fresh, well balanced
HOWES cooked meals. When Mrs. Puppy Wizard travels
occasionally, she prepares for the days of lean in advance,
by freezing two weeks worth of puppy chow and posting the
culinary instructions on the Puppy Wizard's coffee can, the
only physical need The Puppy Wizard requires, beyond his
internet connection and of course, his Mrs. Puppy Wizard
and puppies. But those are givens, naturally.

Mrs. Puppy Wizard prepares 2 meals a day. The
following recipe is for about a 100 pound dog:

Breakfast is half pound raw ground turkey, green
Source, and 1gram vitamin C, 200mg Omega 3 fish
oil and a *Iams cookie *(cause she LIKES to).

Dinner is 2 cups cooked rice, a tablespoon of rolled
oats and an ounce of hamburg. When the rice and oats
cool, add half cup pinto or similar beans, ground fine
in the food processor with equal amounts raw collard or
similar greens or your dog's favorite vegetable or cabbage,
a tablespoon or two Olive or Cannola oil, half clove garlic,
mixed with 1/2 pound raw ground turkey, a good vitamin /
mineral supplement (Green Source for People), calcium and
magnesium, 1 gram vitamin C, 200mg Omega 3 fish oil.

Addition of table scraps is encouraged, bear in mind
salt can be dangerous. The Puppy Wizard's diet is
environmentally friendly and will not produce noxiHOWES
gasses provided the vegetable and beans are ground
finely and because the Green Source contains digestive
enzmyes.

Of curse, that's just a BASIC guide. You may add fish
(canned mackrel is cheap and EXXXCELLENT) or chitlins,
liver or anything not too high in salt or preservatives.

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Dogs have digestive upset and "food allergies"  from STRESS,
not FOOD, as you'll SEE if you check the POSTED CASE
HISTORIES of the lyin dog abusing punk thug coward active
acute chronic mental cases who've replied to you in this thread
who's own dogs GOT THE SAME PROBLEMS.

That's a load of horseshit.

That's ABSURD. He probably needs more vegetables.

You're askin LIARS DOG ABUSERS COWARDS and ACTIVE
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The MENTAL CASES dogs  all got the same problem.

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