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azspecter@gmail.com - 08 Mar 2006 01:01 GMT
My cat has been acting funny the last few months. She meows quite often
for no reason- usually when she comes into a room. 2 months ago she
started to urinate on the floors or on piles of clothes/towels on the
floor. I've noticed that many times, whether she's outside or inside,
she squats to urinate, but nothing comes out. She doesn't act funny, or
in pain or anything otherwise. We have the clumping litter, and I know
she IS urinating based off the clumps in the litter box. Is there a
reason to be concerned, or, is she just being a funny old cat? She was
a stray, so I believe she's about 7 years old now. Any help is
appreciated...
~*Connie*~ - 08 Mar 2006 03:54 GMT
Yes, very much a reason to be concerned.  When cats aren't using their
litter box there is a reason.  If you notice her feeling uncomfortable then
she must be in great discomfort as cats by nature hide their illnesses.  She
should be seen by a vet very soon.  If she is still urinating then it is not
urgent, but it is imperative.  Call the vet in the AM and tell them her
symptoms and I am sure they will fit in you that day.

> My cat has been acting funny the last few months. She meows quite often
> for no reason- usually when she comes into a room. 2 months ago she
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> a stray, so I believe she's about 7 years old now. Any help is
> appreciated...
Anna - 08 Mar 2006 05:17 GMT
>My cat has been acting funny the last few months. She meows quite often
>for no reason- usually when she comes into a room. 2 months ago she
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>a stray, so I believe she's about 7 years old now. Any help is
>appreciated...

Take her to vet to get her urine tested immediately; she may have a urinary
tract infection according to the symptoms you describe.  They will still
urinate when they have one but it may come out in small amounts due to the
build-up of crystals.  This is painful for them but cats tend to hide pain
very well which is why you think she is not acting funny or in pain.  Just
the fact that she quit using the litterbox is a sign of a problem.

Anna
azspecter@gmail.com - 08 Mar 2006 22:45 GMT
She has some bladder stones. Urine tests also shows a PH of 6.5 and a
large amount of blood is present. The Vet said that the PH level is
typically indicative of the type of stones that cannot just be flushed
out or treated without surgery. However, she did say that the PH can
fluxuate throughout the day and that's not a solid test. I'm not sure
why they made me get the test when they cannot have any hard results-
but whatever. Either way, she's on some pain meds the next few days,
and some anti-biotics for a week. Hopefully during the next month
she'll be ok, no more signs of problems.  However- the vet said that if
it prolongs, then surgery will be required. Unfortunately, $1000 for
surgery isn't an option, so I'll need to put her down at that point.
But, let's keep our fingers crossed that the meds take care of the
problem all together.

She also suggested getting her on wet food to help increase fluid
intake- maybe even use one of those water fountains since she loves
drinking out of the sink soo much. Thanks for the help guys!  Keep your
fingers crossed for my little Daisy!!!
Kelcey - 09 Mar 2006 00:06 GMT
>She has some bladder stones. Urine tests also shows a PH of 6.5 and a
>large amount of blood is present. The Vet said that the PH level is
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>drinking out of the sink soo much. Thanks for the help guys!  Keep your
>fingers crossed for my little Daisy!!!

Since you said it's the kind that requires surgery, I trust it's calcium
oxalate crystals she has?.   Did your vet put her on Hill's x/d (that's a
food for cats prone to calcium oxalate crystals).  She should be on the
proper diet for this condition.

Kelcey
Valkyrie - 09 Mar 2006 03:46 GMT
maybe even use one of those water fountains since she loves
> drinking out of the sink soo much. Thanks for the help guys!  Keep your
> fingers crossed for my little Daisy!!!

My son and I both got the cat drinking fountains and our kitties love them.
He just got a yellow lab pup so he had to go and get the HUGE size so
kitties and pup can all "belly up to the bar" at the same time. Nice they
became such great friends in so short a time and I'm sure her nose will heal
quickly! I got one for my cat and now his water consumption has increased by
at least 3 times, if not more. If your kitty likes to drink from the faucet
it will love the fountain and the more water you can get it to drink the
better. You'll be surprised at all over health and improvement in coat too.
We've both noticed the shedding doesn't seem as bad as it was and the only
vet bill in years has been for vaccinations. Plus I don't have to leave the
bathroom sink faucet running all the time as I did.

Now, this is not a spam type endorsement so please do not make any
accusations, but I just googled and found a place that has them on sale for
about 1/3 what we  have paid for ours, even with shipping and handling
that's a great deal and still cheaper than what you'd have to make for
another vet call and meds as well........or sadly worse.
http://store.yahoo.com/pet-guys/-029695248600.html

Oh, and by the way, my cat of 16 and my son's, both over 10 years old, have
never had canned food (they just won't eat it, they want dry kibble ONLY)
but I'm sure that the fact that they have been heavy water drinkers makes a
big difference in their health. Before they came out with the kitty
fountains my cat would empty my Zen table fountain everyday. I gave my son a
Zen fountain for Christmas and his cats did the same thing........not a
single one would take responsibility for the sloppy little paw prints on the
tables however.  Well, they ARE cats and we have chosen to be their minions
so I guess you just have to do what you have to do  ;o)

Oliver, Saturn, Mars and Abby are all sending positive thoughts to your
sweet kitty as well as my son and I.

Val
azspecter@gmail.com - 09 Mar 2006 17:58 GMT
Val- thanks for the link!

The vet mentioned something about getting her on food- but- never said
anything about it again. It is those crystals she 'suspected'- but
wouldn't know unless this medacine doesn't help her in the next month.
Any other suggestions?
Thanks
Kelcey - 09 Mar 2006 20:51 GMT
>The vet mentioned something about getting her on food- but- never said
>anything about it again. It is those crystals she 'suspected'- but
>wouldn't know unless this medacine doesn't help her in the next month.
>Any other suggestions?

You need to find out *exactly* what kind of crystals they are.  Your vet
should provide you with this info.  
If they are struvite crystals, they can be destroyed using a diet such as
Hill's s/d for a few weeks to a few months, then once that was done, your cat
would be put on Hill's c/d for maintenance.  If they are calcium oxalate
crystals, she would be put on Hill's x/d.  Struvite and cal. ox. are two very
different kinds of conditions.   Struvite crystals need a very acidic diet
(s/d) to destroy them and then a moderately acidic diet (c/d) to maintain the
cat.  Cal. ox. crystals require a more alkaline diet (x/d).  I'm surprised
your vet has not given you the appropriate food.  It really makes a
difference.  I suggest you speak with her about this.  

Kelcey
azspecter@gmail.com - 13 Mar 2006 23:30 GMT
UPDATE
Spoke with the Vet- she suggested CDX or CDOX for her food- to mix it
in with existing food. But- she said she had no crystals to make a
decision over. She highly doubted that the food/medicine would flush
out the stones,and she would require surgery to do it. She said there's
another procedure where she forces the stones out by hand- but there's
a good chance that wouldn't work and she'd need the surgery anyways. In
which case, I gotta put her down.

So, Im not sure if the food will help her pass these stones or not? Can
anyone tell me? Also- does anyone know if places like the Animal
Welfare League can take in cats, give them the proper care and adopt
them out?
Thanks

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