My cat died today. He was my best friend. Bunny had an overactive
gland and fluid on the lungs. He died after an anestetic , when the vet
was trying to get an xray. I'm really cut up about it. i can't bring
mysels to bury him yet. It will have to be tomorrow. Why does an
overactive gland lead to fluid on the lungs and why does anestetic
cause the heart to slow down and stop? 'd had him 7 years and he was my
Mothers cat before that and I had him when my Mum died. I thinking of
getting a kitten sometime in the future. Where's the best place to get
a kitten from the RSPCA or advertised in the paper.
David Maggs
philo - 27 Feb 2006 22:38 GMT
> My cat died today. He was my best friend. Bunny had an overactive
> gland and fluid on the lungs. He died after an anestetic , when the vet
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> getting a kitten sometime in the future. Where's the best place to get
> a kitten from the RSPCA or advertised in the paper.
I am very sorry to hear about your cat ...
I am sure you will feel better when you get a new kitten.
It is very difficult to administer an anethsthetic as it is supposed to slow
down the heart and breathing...
and with an ill cat... only a *tiny* bit too much anesthetic is fatal ...
You can get one from either the RSPCA or an ad in the paper...
it's your choice.
NMR - 27 Feb 2006 23:04 GMT
Purrs and hugs for you
http://members.shaw.ca/black-sky/rainbow-bridge.html
http://www.indigo.org/rainbowbridge_ver2.html
>> My cat died today. He was my best friend. Bunny had an overactive
>> gland and fluid on the lungs. He died after an anestetic , when the vet
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> You can get one from either the RSPCA or an ad in the paper...
> it's your choice.
Frieda - 27 Feb 2006 23:05 GMT
My dearest condolences about Bunny. Cats can play a very important
role in our lives and they always show us so much affection.
You could try looking for a kitten from rescue centres whereby you will
be able to provide a loving home for abandoned animals.
DW - 28 Feb 2006 14:57 GMT
> I am very sorry to hear about your cat ...
> I am sure you will feel better when you get a new kitten.
> It is very difficult to administer an anethsthetic as it is supposed to slow
> down the heart and breathing...
> and with an ill cat... only a *tiny* bit too much anesthetic is fatal ...
This would not necessarily mean the vet gave the cat too much
anesthetic. Even
a fraction of the normal dose could be enough to push the cat over the
edge.
My condolensces. Your friend will be waiting for you at Rainbow
Bridge.
> You can get one from either the RSPCA or an ad in the paper...
> it's your choice.
I'd suggest going to one of your local shelters. They are in desperate
need
for homes.
philo - 01 Mar 2006 02:07 GMT
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> This would not necessarily mean the vet gave the cat too much
> anesthetic. Even
> a fraction of the normal dose could be enough to push the cat over the
> edge.
true...
it's very difficult to get it exactly right...
I too lost a cat the same way...that was many years ago though
DW - 01 Mar 2006 22:03 GMT
> > This would not necessarily mean the vet gave the cat too much
> > anesthetic. Even
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> it's very difficult to get it exactly right...
> I too lost a cat the same way...that was many years ago though
Bear in mind, if you have a cat in less than good health, a small dose
of
nesthetic (wll below the normal dose) could be enough to be fatal.
Sometimes a cat is so ill that they really shouldn't undergo anything
requiring
anesthetic.
Frieda - 02 Mar 2006 03:28 GMT
NMR wrote:
>Please stay away from breeders unless you want a pure breed.
Why do you say this? Is it because you believe it's better to provide a
home for abandoned animals or you don't like people making money out of
breeding kittens?
Just curious
Matthew AKA NMR ( NO MORE RETAIL ) - 02 Mar 2006 05:29 GMT
Frieda Here in the US to many non pure breed breeders are kitten mills just
breeding kittens to breed kittens to make money. Every day at the shelter
so many kittens come in. It is so hard to find them homes than here comes a
kitten breeder selling kittens in store chains. They are contributing to
the problems that is out there. Every week animals control pulls pets out
of the pet stores for various reason. It is actually worse for puppies
Shelters are not doing this for a profit while non pure breeders are.
Shelters charge a price for an animal that is true but the money goes back
into the shelter for future animals. While the non pure breed breeder puts
it in their pocket and throws another TOM in with a female that just gave
birth.
We came up with an idea awhile ago with a few pet stores so every one
can make out we give them kittens already vaccinated, neutered, socialized
and one thing not sick. The pet stores can sell them; the price a piece
comes to us which pays for the medical and part goes for future housing
cost. They donate a part of the sale to HSUS or local animal society and
they make money. It is a good deal for all our kittens get adopted and go
to a good home. Some money is made on both sides. The animals and future
animals make out in the deal.
I have no problem with a person breeding a pure breed cat. They are not
going to keep breeding the animal till it can't breed no more ( usually
after it dies) and not care about the cats or kittens. But for someone to
breeds a non pure breed cat just to breed a cat for profit when there are so
many animals that need adopting is just as bad as a person who abandons a
bunch of kittens on the side of the road. Some people don't even believe in
the pure breeders but I understand the difference. It looks weird looking
at it in writing but anyone who has seen a kitten or puppy mill which is
what most non pure breeders are will understand. I hope I was not confusing
and I am not doing this to be flamed.
> NMR wrote:
>>Please stay away from breeders unless you want a pure breed.
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>
> Just curious
DW - 02 Mar 2006 17:16 GMT
> NMR wrote:
> >Please stay away from breeders unless you want a pure breed.
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>
> Just curious
Around here there have been numerous breeders nailed for selling pets
who
were ill/had terminal diseases/etc. Besides there are milliions of
pets
in shelters looking for homes.
I can't see breeding a cat when you have millions of them
in shelters that will be killed if they aren't adopted.
Frieda - 02 Mar 2006 20:10 GMT
>Around here there have been numerous breeders nailed for selling pets
>who
>were ill/had terminal diseases/etc. Besides there are milliions of
>pets
>in shelters looking for homes.
>I can't see breeding a cat when you have millions of them
>in shelters that will be killed if they aren't adopted.
I can see yours and NMR's point. Our cat was a stray who we took in.
We used to have a little tortoishell years ago who was hand reared
until 4 weeks of age when we got her because her mum died giving birth.
They were free to a good home and I don't think they were from
breeders. I think her mum was a stray that used to stay in one of the
stables on the farm that belonged to these people. They hand reared
her kittens until they thought it was ok to let them go to a free home.
Looking back, I know she was very young to be given away at 4 weeks,
but the fact that these people was practically her mum during the
kittens first weeks of life shows that they were doing all they can for
these little kittens.
To be honest, I've always fancied a chinchilla ar abyssian kitten. I
think these are two very attractive breeds. But then again I love all
types of cats, purebred or just moggies. Cats make such wonderful
companions and are so affectionate.
If I could, I would love to adopt. Unfortunately our cat is very timid
towards other cats, and I have to put him first. I don't want to make
him feel threatened in his own home.
Matthew AKA NMR ( NO MORE RETAIL ) - 02 Mar 2006 20:32 GMT
Fieda if you introduce another kitten correctly they will be best friends
and you will be a slave again
One of our cats is timid she gets out of the others way and if they get to
close for her she puts them in their place timid does not mean peaceful
>>Around here there have been numerous breeders nailed for selling pets
>>who
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> towards other cats, and I have to put him first. I don't want to make
> him feel threatened in his own home.
davidmaggs2000@yahoo.com - 02 Mar 2006 21:24 GMT
Thanks for everyone's support. I'm feeling a little bit better now.
I'm looking after one of my girlfriends cats now because it does'nt
have a proper home because Sooty keeps chasing it out of her house and
its out in all weathers. So Max has come to live with me abit . At
least until the weather picks up. All cats have different personalitys
so Max can't replace Bunny, but its nice to have a cat around the
house. Some people can't understand why we get upset when we lose a pet
because their not animal lovers. Some of my friends don't understand.
I'm going to get a kitten from a shelter. Is there a charge for the
cat and will it be vacinated and neutered when I get it?
David Maggs
Matthew AKA NMR ( NO MORE RETAIL ) - 02 Mar 2006 21:35 GMT
David each shelter is different some charge some don't some run background
checks it is all according to the shelter.
My shelter in Florida USA it runs about $150 that includes background
check, spay and neutering, micro chippings , all vaccinations, food and
kitty litter for about 2 months and checkups for a year plus the yearly
required vaccinations( Florida every state is different in the US). Micro
chipping is an option but highly we recommend it without it about $75.
I am not sure what they will charge overseas
> Thanks for everyone's support. I'm feeling a little bit better now.
> I'm looking after one of my girlfriends cats now because it does'nt
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> David Maggs
NMR - 27 Feb 2006 23:40 GMT
David when you are ready to get a new kitten. It will happen with out you
even trying. I don' know where you live but a local shelter is the best
bet. Please stay away from breeders unless you want a pure breed. Take a
trip to local shelter or rescue group. One of the little gods will pops its
head up and let you know he or she is there and wants you to be their slave.
If you are lucky 2 will pick you out.
I am really sorry for your loss. I know how they become your best friend.
My better half's recently lost her best friend of 20 years her name was
precious a long hair black and white Himalayan. That was over 2 months ago
both of us still have trouble with it. My best friend
http://tinypic.com/j9u0qh.jpg even thought I love all of them deeply.
Rumble is almost 7 and epileptic and he is my soul. I have never felt that
way about a cat before.
You asked why IMO I am not an expert but unless it was a reaction to the
sleep agent( which can happen very easily) this is probably what happened
some one else more experienced in this can explain. If not if you have the
newsgroup rec.pets.cats.health+behav go there and ping PHIL P. he can
explain the best even thought he is not a vet. Here my view an over active
gland depending on the gland can cause a fluid pocket to build up around the
heart and lungs. when anesthesia is introduced it slows the cats breathing
down and puts them into a relaxed state just like humans. Slower breathing
usually means slower heart rate. If there was fluid on the lungs it would
have compressed the lungs and heart reducing their capacity and such put the
cat into distress which can kill with easy
> My cat died today. He was my best friend. Bunny had an overactive
> gland and fluid on the lungs. He died after an anestetic , when the vet
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>
> David Maggs
wester@laway.net - 28 Feb 2006 00:00 GMT
>My cat died today. He was my best friend. Bunny had an overactive
>gland and fluid on the lungs. He died after an anestetic , when the vet
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>
>David Maggs
Dear David:
So sorry to hear about Bunny. The death of a beloved pet will make you
stop and consider what's really important in your life. Poor Bunny,
you were trying to the right thing by him.
I am very happy you are thinking about giving a good home to another
cat who is in need. Not sure of your UK conventions, but I would
rescue a shelter cat before the classifieds; although either resource
should find you the new cat you want.
Please don't stress about Bunny. He had a loving home for many years,
which is more than a lot of shelter cats ever have.
Hang in there. Please let the group know how you are doing and how the
search for a new kit is coming along.
I will light a candle for Bunny tonight. My two cats, my dog, and
myself all feel for your loss. You will be in our thoughts.
Regards,
Allison
Wayne Boatwright - 28 Feb 2006 03:51 GMT
On Mon 27 Feb 2006 02:53:55p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it
davidmaggs2000@yahoo.com?
> My cat died today. He was my best friend. Bunny had an overactive
> gland and fluid on the lungs. He died after an anestetic , when the vet
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> getting a kitten sometime in the future. Where's the best place to get
> a kitten from the RSPCA or advertised in the paper.
David, I'm so sorry for your loss. It is heartbreaking to lose a companion
that is so much a part of our lives.
We have 5 kitties, and all of them were adopted from rescue groups.

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Jason James - 01 Mar 2006 16:28 GMT
> My cat died today. He was my best friend. Bunny had an overactive
> gland and fluid on the lungs. He died after an anestetic , when the vet
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>
> David Maggs
David that is very sad news. We feel the emotions of their passing all the
more, for they are unconditionally loyal to us.
Fluid on the lungs is a serious disease and his succumbing to it was most
likely not unusual, especially under anaesthetic.
Hope you can get another fella soon. Here, RSPCA or town-council ound cats
are all up to date with their shots etc and come with certification for
these, plus the next due shots. They will cost more as a result. Buying from
the paper will be cheaper, but you will have to chase up innoculations etc
Jason
Foundryrat - 03 Mar 2006 04:55 GMT
> My cat died today. He was my best friend. Bunny had an overactive
> gland and fluid on the lungs. He died after an anestetic , when the vet
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>
> David Maggs
i am very sorry for your loss.
skymackey@bresnan.net - 04 Mar 2006 02:32 GMT
David,
So sorry to read of your loss. These little guys are a real island of
peace in a chaotic world. Do think of getting a kitten, and providing
a life for another little friend.
sayhitocatgirl@yahoo.com - 04 Mar 2006 05:44 GMT
David, I replied the other day, but it isn't showing up on the Google
news
thing... can it take days sometimes?? I hope you get my thoughts
somehow...
thoughts of total understanding and caring... Bless you for loving
Bunny...
and I know you will see him again. We can never replace our loved ones,
but
when your spirit is ready, there is always another little one out there
who
so desperately needs a good home. You can do this in honor of Bunny.
When
we lost our 19 year old, it was devastating... When healing came enough
for
me to function, I chose to honor my lost one with service to homeless
cats
and dogs... Shelters and sanctuarys always need good volunteers to help
them.... It was hard at first, but got better, and now its the best
thing I
think I could ever do... and I honor her also by providing a loving
home for
as many as we can give quality care for here at home. You have a lot to
teach
to your friends about how to extend love beyond their own species, and
how rewarding
it is to really connect with another being, especially ones so complex
and similar to
human adults emotionally. Hugs from Catgirl ~ PS... this is my first
post from the actualy Google site, I copy-pasted it from another news
place I used the first time, and the preview here shows up with too
many spaces and strange looking... if it appears that way in the final
post, my apologies, but I don't know how to fix that..