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How long can you keep opened canned food?
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AlexZ - 14 Feb 2006 23:04 GMT How long can I keep opened canned food if it is:
1. Left in a plate for her to eat? (apartment temp 60 deg F) 2. In a tightly closed can in the room? (apartment temp 60 deg F) 3. In a tightly closed can in the refrigerator?
Thanks.
John Doe - 14 Feb 2006 23:31 GMT > How long can I keep opened canned food if it is: Less than the time it takes to smell bad?
> 1. Left in a plate for her to eat? (apartment temp 60 deg F) > 2. In a tightly closed can in the room? (apartment temp 60 deg F) > 3. In a tightly closed can in the refrigerator? For what it's worth, this is how I currently do it.
... tear off a few inches of aluminum foil
... from that, tear off one third or one half, enough to cover the can top, and put the rest aside for the next time
... clean the can with a quarter paper towel and rubbing alcohol unless the can comes from a package
... open the can and feed some to your beloved feline
... cover the can with the aluminum foil pressing it over the sides to make a tight fit
... put it in the refrigerator
... next time, you can either use the same aluminum foil or replace it
Good luck.
Switch - 14 Feb 2006 23:42 GMT > > How long can I keep opened canned food if it is: > > Less than the time it takes to smell bad?
> Good luck. this is coming from the laziest man (if you are in fact male) God ever let breathe
Wow! you got a nerve
maybe you are a reptilian
John Doe - 14 Feb 2006 23:53 GMT nym shifting troll
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mmarkoe@optonline.net - 15 Feb 2006 02:42 GMT > nym shifting troll How could a malicious troll like you ever be sociable. On Comp.Speech.Users you spew venom and are constantly castigated.
Anyone who feels this way should write John Dope at Lshaping atsign hotmail.com to let him know he should get back on his meds.
Sincerely, Markoe
John Doe - 15 Feb 2006 08:10 GMT Martin Markoe is a racketeering spammer troll whose only activity on USENET (besides stalking) is pushing microphones on disabled users whose speech recognition problems usually have nothing to do with their microphone.
mmarkoe optonline.net wrote:
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NMR - 15 Feb 2006 17:34 GMT "John Doe" <jdoe@usenet.love.invalid>
Seems you find trolls everywhere you go and at times start to act like them when you get there ...
cybercat - 15 Feb 2006 18:00 GMT > "John Doe" <jdoe@usenet.love.invalid> > > Seems you find trolls everywhere you go and at times start to act like them > when you get there ... John is worse than a troll, he's an a.shole with a capital "A."
NMR - 15 Feb 2006 18:28 GMT >> "John Doe" <jdoe@usenet.love.invalid> >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > John is worse than a troll, he's an a.shole with a capital "A." He is a f.cking a.shole that followed me over to a non cat group and posted I was a troll
cybercat - 15 Feb 2006 19:07 GMT > >> "John Doe" <jdoe@usenet.love.invalid> > >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > He is a f.cking a.shole that followed me over to a non cat group and posted > I was a troll "f.cking a.shole" works for me. If I were the netcopping type I might complain to his ISP if I were you. [If I were you and if you were the netcopping type ... you know what I mean.]
NMR - 15 Feb 2006 19:27 GMT Can't do anything about that anyone can post anywhere say anything as long as no personal information is let out it is not a commercial advertisement or physical threats nothing to do but give him a taste of his own medicine. I posted in the other groups that I know that he goes to this statement " BEWARE HE IS A STALKER AND A TROLL BEWARE FOLLOWS YOU TO OTHER GROUPS AND INSULTS THEM AND POST BS ABOUT THEM HE NEEDS A TASTE OF HIS OWN MEDICINE "
He followed me over to alt.wholesale and started crap there. He is just a little child trapped behind a computer screen just like all internet tough guys. Phil spanked him before that was good enough for me. Here is my reply post to him " John your are just a child hiding behind a computer screen In real life you are completely ignored by both woman and men which you admitted in another group after Phil spanked you for being stupid. Get a life your post are ignored through out the cats groups and other that you post in get a life you punk. No one cares about you. Call a 900 number they will give you all the attention that mommy and daddy did not give you. All you are doing is being lined up for a <plonk>" His reply was so childish that I talked to him like a child in my reply.
He is being added to the killfile list he is just a little boy hiding behind a computer screen getting his rocks off bothering people
John Doe - 15 Feb 2006 20:57 GMT A nym shifting control freak who says she's not a net cop. And the cow jumped over the moon.
See also: cybercat Lumpy Mary
> From: "cybercat" <boagrrl hotmail.com> > Newsgroups: alt.cats,alt.pets.cats,rec.pets.cats.health+behav [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > complain to his ISP if I were you. [If I were you and if you were the > netcopping type ... you know what I mean.]
Morgen - 15 Feb 2006 18:02 GMT I only leave food out for an hour or so to get to room temperature or zap in the microwave for 10 sec or less. I feed only 1/2 teaspoon at a time per cat and dole it out for about 2 hours as they empty the bowls. Evenings I give a full teaspoon. My cats have dry to graze on during the day. Fresh water and clean bowls are a must and the food lives in the fridge until feeding time. Transfer food to a plastic container with a tight lid, don't leave in the can. Easier to zap that way as I use stainless wet food bowls. Various flavors because they are easily bored, but same brand name all the time to keep nutrition constant. Try "Only Natural Pet" for the most complete foods.
Trolls are encouraged everytime someone attacks them, see Operant Conditioning Principles.
Morgen the Cat Whisperer <a href="http://www.for-the-love-of-cats.com/">For the Love of Cats</a>
NMR - 15 Feb 2006 18:28 GMT "John Doe" <jdoe@usenet.love.invalid> a.shole AND A STALKER
NMR - 15 Feb 2006 18:47 GMT "John Doe" <jdoe@usenet.love.invalid>
STALKER AND A TROLL BEWARE FOLLOWS YOU TO OTHER GROUPS AND INSULTS THEM AND POST BS ABOUT THEM
HE NEEDS A TASTE OF HIS OWN MEDICINE
AlexZ - 14 Feb 2006 23:51 GMT : > How long can I keep opened canned food if it is: : Less than the time it takes to smell bad? Hmmm...I don't want to wait that long. :)
: ... tear off a few inches of aluminum foil I use plastic lids I bought from petsmart/petco, they fit tightly. However, Al foil should work too.
John Doe - 15 Feb 2006 00:03 GMT Okay then, wait less than less than the time it takes to smell bad.
What is your question?
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NMR - 15 Feb 2006 18:29 GMT "John Doe" <jdoe@usenet.love.invalid>
CAREFUL HE IS A STALKER
NMR - 15 Feb 2006 18:47 GMT "John Doe" <jdoe@usenet.love.invalid>
STALKER AND A TROLL BEWARE FOLLOWS YOU TO OTHER GROUPS AND INSULTS THEM AND POST BS ABOUT THEM
HE NEEDS A TASTE OF HIS OWN MEDICINE
cybercat - 15 Feb 2006 00:22 GMT > : > How long can I keep opened canned food if it is: > : Less than the time it takes to smell bad? > > Hmmm...I don't want to wait that long. :) If I don't give the unused portion to my cats the next day, I toss it. I would say that you could probably serve it two days after opening it and it would still be good. After that, no. Use your head. What do you do with your own food? I don't keep meats more than 3 days, fish and chicken more than 2.
treeline12345@yahoo.com - 15 Feb 2006 00:34 GMT > > : > How long can I keep opened canned food if it is: > > : Less than the time it takes to smell bad? [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > would still be good. After that, no. Use your head. What do you do with your > own food? I don't keep meats more than 3 days, fish and chicken more than 2. I let the cat judge for herself. When I buy a big can, 14 ounces?, of super premium cat food, I'll usually keep it a week. Every day or so, I'll put some out. But she usually won't eat this at all. I keep it in the frig. Surprisingly it lasts easily. So I'm back to 3 ounce cans to avoid all this. The 3 ounce is good for the day. If she gets hungry enough, she'll eat the food even if it's 6 hours old. If she can keep a mouse for a day or two, then she can keep a can for 6 hours. If I'm feeling guilty, then it's 20 minutes and toss. I want her to eat more canned - and she does when I'm not looking. I have not gotten this down to a system yet as you can tell. I'm a male. That's my excuse :) Since I'm a vegetarian, except for chicken noodle soup, I don't keep meats more than 1 second ;)
AlexZ - 15 Feb 2006 01:59 GMT : I let the cat judge for herself. When I buy a big can, 14 ounces?, of : super premium cat food, I'll usually keep it a week. Every day or so, [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] : enough, she'll eat the food even if it's 6 hours old. If she can keep a : mouse for a day or two, then she can keep a can for 6 hours... I too have given up on 14 oz cans. Maybe when we have two cats, but with just one cat it is false economy if she won't eat and I have to discard a good portion of it.
However, 3 oz cans are particularly uneconomical. I still haven't given up on 5.5-6 oz cans. :)
I know you can keep them 2-3 days in the fridge, but that raises the issue of warming it so she would still eat it. Straight microwaving doesn't work with her. I have better luck with microwaving at defrost setting. Still, I am trying to figure out how long is it safe to leave it unrefrigerated.
AlexZ - 15 Feb 2006 01:50 GMT : If I don't give the unused portion to my cats the next day, I toss it. I : would say that you could probably serve it two days after opening it and it : would still be good. After that, no. I assume you mean two days if refrigerated.
How long would the can (opened but then closed with a tight lid) be ok if left unrefrigerated in 60 deg room? (In case somebody is wondering why even consider leaving it unrefrigerated, the answer is that warming chilled food has its own issues. So I am wondering how long can I get away with simply leaving it at the room temp?)
John Wesley - 15 Feb 2006 02:02 GMT > "AlexZ" <alexz@no.spam> wrote in message > What do you do with your > own food? I don't keep meats more than 3 days, I keep meats for a week in the fridge.
> fish and chicken more than 2. Chicken for a week also in the fridge.
Joan in GB-W - 15 Feb 2006 01:30 GMT > : > How long can I keep opened canned food if it is: > : Less than the time it takes to smell bad? [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > I use plastic lids I bought from petsmart/petco, they fit tightly. > However, Al foil should work too. I use small tupperware containers. The second day I microwave it for 10-15 seconds so that it is not refrigerator cold.
Joan
AlexZ - 15 Feb 2006 02:01 GMT : I use small tupperware containers. The second day I microwave it : for 10-15 seconds so that it is not refrigerator cold. You are lucky, mine refuses to eat food microwaved in this manner!
Elmer Pintar - 15 Feb 2006 00:30 GMT no more than a day. It dries up and develops a stale odor, like any food left out unrefrigerated. Remember, most cat food is made of meat by-products, andis subject to quick spoil. If not consumed within a day, replace the food.
cybercat - 15 Feb 2006 03:26 GMT > no more than a day. It dries up and develops a stale odor, like any > food left out unrefrigerated. Um. I assumed the OP meant in the refrigerator.
AlexZ - 15 Feb 2006 03:47 GMT : Um. I assumed the OP meant in the refrigerator. Well, my question was in three parts-
"How long can I keep opened canned food if it is: 1. Left in a plate for her to eat? (apartment temp 60 deg F) 2. In a tightly closed can in the room? (apartment temp 60 deg F) 3. In a tightly closed can in the refrigerator?"
dgk - 15 Feb 2006 14:20 GMT >: Um. I assumed the OP meant in the refrigerator. > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >2. In a tightly closed can in the room? (apartment temp 60 deg F) >3. In a tightly closed can in the refrigerator?" Good question since my cats do not like refrigerated food, even if microwaved, and I'm not going to heat it on the stove. I have to draw the line somewhere.
I finally went with the 3oz cans, which are pretty expensive but the boys like ProPlan salmon and rice and PP is only available in 3oz cans. So I buy it by the case and it's a bit cheaper.
I split a can into two bowls in the morning. In the evening I clean the bowls and split another can. That sits until the morning. So each cat gets one 3oz can per day. Plus they also get all the PP DRY salmon and rice (the boys are consistent at least) they want.
Usually there isn't a whole lot to clean out of the bowl.
This morning, while waiting for my arrival with the can, Espy was happily eating away at the leftovers from the evening meal. I took it away and gave him the fresh stuff but he was perfectly content to keep eating the 12 hour old stuff.
Janna - 15 Feb 2006 15:30 GMT >This morning, while waiting for my arrival with the can, Espy was >happily eating away at the leftovers from the evening meal. I took it >away and gave him the fresh stuff but he was perfectly content to keep >eating the 12 hour old stuff. After only a 1/2 hour, it starts to get crusty. If you must leave canned in bowl for a long period of time, it should not be more than 4 hours tops. Twelve hours is way too long.
Janna
AlexZ - 15 Feb 2006 16:13 GMT : I finally went with the 3oz cans, which are pretty expensive but the : boys like ProPlan salmon and rice and PP is only available in 3oz [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] : cat gets one 3oz can per day. Plus they also get all the PP DRY : salmon and rice (the boys are consistent at least) they want. Although Pro Plan and Fancy Feast offer only 3 oz cans, many premium brands (Iams, Science Diet, Nutro) offer 5.5 oz. With two cats, if they would like one of these flavors, you have the option of splitting a 5.5 oz can. On sale these are available for around 50c. This would be more economical and also better for their health (ie, more canned food, less kibble).
From what I read in the ng's, even mainstream manufacturers like Friskies have improved their quality a lot, and they are available for less than 30 cents per 5.5 oz can. You can try those too.
I have also heard that too much sea food is not good for the cats' long term health, I am no expert but you might want to look into it.
If you are tempted to try a change, it should be very gradual. For starters, I might try offering new food only one meal a week (ie, 1 out of 14 meals).
cybercat - 15 Feb 2006 18:03 GMT > : Um. I assumed the OP meant in the refrigerator. > > Well, my question was in three parts- > > "How long can I keep opened canned food if it is: > 1. Left in a plate for her to eat? (apartment temp 60 deg F) Well, what if you left some meat out on the table that you had cooked? How long would you feel safe eating it? A couple of hours? All day?
> 2. In a tightly closed can in the room? (apartment temp 60 deg F) Why would you do this if you have a refrigerator?
> 3. In a tightly closed can in the refrigerator?" Two days, max. Don't take chances with your cat. Ever eat spoiled food? One time I did, as my CAT had knocked the refrigerator cord out of the outlet and I was busy and did not notice. Anyway, if you ever eat spoiled food you will learn not to take any chances. Just don't take any chances!
Janna - 15 Feb 2006 18:47 GMT >> 3. In a tightly closed can in the refrigerator?"
>Two days, max. Don't take chances with your cat. Ever >eat spoiled food? One time I did, as my CAT had knocked >the refrigerator cord out of the outlet and I was busy and did >not notice. Anyway, if you ever eat spoiled food you will learn >not to take any chances. Just don't take any chances! The Purina web site says 4 days max in the refrigerator.
Janna
AlexZ - 15 Feb 2006 20:26 GMT : > 2. In a tightly closed can in the room? (apartment temp 60 deg F) : Why would you do this if you have a refrigerator? She doesnt like reheated it food. I feed her 12 hours apart. If the opened but tightly reclosed can would last that long in a 60 deg room, that would solve my reheating problem.
: > 3. In a tightly closed can in the refrigerator?" : : Two days, max. Don't take chances with your cat. Thanks to Janna we learn 4 days is ok according to Purina. I have never gone beyond 3 and usually am within 2.
LMR - 15 Feb 2006 22:47 GMT >Thanks to Janna we learn 4 days is ok according to Purina. I have never >gone beyond 3 and usually am within 2. Then Iams has to come along and make it more confusing. They say no more than 3 days in fridge. Funny, even the pet food companies can't agree on this.
LMR
cybercat - 15 Feb 2006 22:58 GMT > : > 2. In a tightly closed can in the room? (apartment temp 60 deg F) > : Why would you do this if you have a refrigerator? > > She doesnt like reheated it food. I feed her 12 hours apart. If the > opened but tightly reclosed can would last that long in a 60 deg room, > that would solve my reheating problem. Just take it out an hour early.
> : > 3. In a tightly closed can in the refrigerator?" > : > : Two days, max. Don't take chances with your cat. > > Thanks to Janna we learn 4 days is ok according to Purina. I have never > gone beyond 3 and usually am within 2. Better safe than sorry!
Janna - 15 Feb 2006 03:48 GMT >How long can I keep opened canned food if it is:
>1. Left in a plate for her to eat? (apartment temp 60 deg F) A half hour probably - it starts to get a crust on it after that and it will get cold and unappetizing.
>2. In a tightly closed can in the room? (apartment temp 60 deg F) About 1-2 hours.
>3. In a tightly closed can in the refrigerator? 4-5 days. Can take food out of can and put in tupperware container, then refrigerate.
Take out of fridge an hour before serving to let chill dissapate. If she doesn't like it microwaved, you can also warm up in regular oven for a bit.
Canned food has no preservatives and must be refrigerated.
Janna
AlexZ - 15 Feb 2006 06:52 GMT : >3. In a tightly closed can in the refrigerator? : : 4-5 days. Can take food out of can and put in tupperware container, : then refrigerate. Let me understand, did you mean this as simply one example of how it can be done, or do you mean that using a plastic dish is better than just closing the original can with a lid?
BTW I am very inexperienced in kitchen matters. I dimly recall hearing that Al cans once opened should not be used to store food. I am wondering if that is true and if that is what you meant.
Thank you for the remainder of your post.
Janna - 15 Feb 2006 15:26 GMT >Let me understand, did you mean this as simply one example of how it >can be done, or do you mean that using a plastic dish is better than >just closing the original can with a lid? Yes, storing the leftovers in a container rather than in the original can may be a better idea. I recall reading somewhere that the metal or lining of the can *may* affect taste. Something to try.
Janna
DW - 15 Feb 2006 19:59 GMT > How long can I keep opened canned food if it is: > > 1. Left in a plate for her to eat? (apartment temp 60 deg F) > 2. In a tightly closed can in the room? (apartment temp 60 deg F) > 3. In a tightly closed can in the refrigerator? This is a running problem I have. I've had a number of cats who will not eat cold food from the refigerator. Even if it is heated in the Microwave......
I finally got to the point where i got the smallest can available, 3 ozs., which was emptied in a matter of a few hours.
Some cats are picky that way.
NMR - 15 Feb 2006 20:19 GMT >> How long can I keep opened canned food if it is: >> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Some cats are picky that way. Mine refuse to do the same if they don't finish it it gets throw in the trash
Switch - 16 Feb 2006 01:39 GMT > How long can I keep opened canned food if it is: your cat must be about one pound, lol
what size cans do you get, I've only seen two sizes
the largest size, surely one cat can eat that much in a day or two days...twill be fine!
*just be sure to killfile that John Dolt character; he's got some serious issues
John Doe - 16 Feb 2006 01:43 GMT nym shifting troll
See also: "Magic Mood Jeep©" <buttercupstickysweet yahoo.com> "-L." <bigbadbarry adelphia.net> "a christmas tree" "abRokeNegRo" "bag-o-switches" "bigbadbarry" "black-ip" "chickenwing" "coffeedog" "hamandche betweentheknees.com" "Jew" "johndoeisadick" "Levon" "Mr Tibbs" "NMR" "Patches" "Prozack" "Resistance" "Shalom" "Switch" "Themselves" "wannabe" "watermelon" "whitershadeofpale" "yo"
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Switch - 16 Feb 2006 01:52 GMT > nym shifting troll
> > *just be sure to killfile that John Dolt character; he's got some > > serious issues You've been wearing that same shirt since I started posting over 2 years ago!
Shame on you!
GASP!!!
somebody call the fashion police!
YOU HAVE NO IMAGINATION
John - 16 Feb 2006 23:18 GMT >How long can I keep opened canned food if it is: > >1. Left in a plate for her to eat? (apartment temp 60 deg F) No more than 12 hours. But it mat even be stale to the cat by then and it would want fresh food and not be happy about eating it. Cat's are very picky and choosy about their food.
>2. In a tightly closed can in the room? (apartment temp 60 deg F) 12 Hours
>3. In a tightly closed can in the refrigerator? 3 days max. But a lot of the goodness would be lost from the food the longer you keep it exposed to the air. Cat also might not like overly cool food from a refrigerator to eat.
We always get the whiskas pouches, and usually the cat eats up a whole pouch in one serving, maybe leaves some a comes back later for more. Sometime has more than a pouch.
As far as dry food goes it is the same situation. Once it is in his bowl it will go stale very quickly. That's why we always found it best to put out just a small handful and then when he's eaten it put a tiny bit more out until its eaten. Luckily a lot of the dry food comes in resealable bags. Even with these though, if it is a big bag the food can go stale unless it is used fairly quickly, especially if it's not resealed fully, or air is left in the package.
John
LMR - 16 Feb 2006 23:34 GMT >>1. Left in a plate for her to eat? (apartment temp 60 deg F) >No more than 12 hours. But it mat even be stale to the cat by then and >it would want fresh food and not be happy about eating it. Cat's are >very picky and choosy about their food. >>2. In a tightly closed can in the room? (apartment temp 60 deg F) >12 Hours 12 hours is *much* too long to leave canned food at room temperature. Perhaps you accidently put a 1 in front of the 2?
>As far as dry food goes it is the same situation. Once it is in his >bowl it will go stale very quickly. That's why we always found it best [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >can go stale unless it is used fairly quickly, especially if it's not >resealed fully, or air is left in the package. Actually dry food has preservatives in it so it will not go stale in the bowl quickly. That's one of the thing's that's good about it - it can sit at room temperature for a long time unlike canned food.
LMR
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