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Howard Beale - 09 Feb 2006 19:12 GMT Brain parasites come from cats and affect 80% of the population!
http://www.damninteresting.com/?p=399
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just john - 09 Feb 2006 19:22 GMT > Brain parasites come from cats and affect 80% of the population! > > http://www.damninteresting.com/?p=399 Great.
When was the last time people got rid of cats? Wasn't that just before the Black Death clobbered a third of Europe's biped population?
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The Bishop - 09 Feb 2006 19:30 GMT Sure, they COME from cats...
but where are they GOING?
Follow the parasites, my son!
Heresiarch SODDI - 09 Feb 2006 22:45 GMT > Sure, they COME from cats... > > but where are they GOING? > > Follow the parasites, my son! We have interrupted the parasites' life cycle by not allowing ourselves to be eaten by cats. Particularly our BRAYNES.
Evolutionary parasitologists have suggested that toxoplasmosis infection may have made early hominids less fearful and more curious by dicking with our neurochemistry.
T, gondii is one of my favorite boogers.
Roy. Just Roy. - 10 Feb 2006 06:46 GMT >> Evolutionary parasitologists have suggested that toxoplasmosis infection may have made early hominids less fearful
I don't know about you, but I find hemorrhoids to be VERY fearful.
/Roy
Foundryrat - 12 Feb 2006 09:09 GMT >>Sure, they COME from cats... >> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > T, gondii is one of my favorite boogers. i love cats we should be thankful there not getting rid of us.
Rev. 11D Meow! - 12 Feb 2006 10:25 GMT >>>Sure, they COME from cats... >>> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >> T, gondii is one of my favorite boogers. > i love cats we should be thankful there not getting rid of us. Oh, but 'they' are...
Michael Rhino - 10 Feb 2006 01:51 GMT > Brain parasites come from cats and affect 80% of the population! > > http://www.damninteresting.com/?p=399 Suppose that a person or cat is infected with Toxoplasma. Does the infection go away after a period of time? Is there a cure?
Heresiarch SODDI - 10 Feb 2006 02:10 GMT >> Brain parasites come from cats and affect 80% of the population! >> >> http://www.damninteresting.com/?p=399 > > Suppose that a person or cat is infected with Toxoplasma. Does the > infection go away after a period of time? Is there a cure? Toxoplasmosis is rarely treated except in those with severely compromised immiune systems or pregnant women.
Most infections are considered "benign" or "subclinical"... meaning, it's there for good, like malaria. But unlike malaria, no symptoms ever reoccur.
Treatment from emedicine.com: "Combination of pyrimethamine and a sulfonamide (eg, sulfadiazine) is effective against acute toxoplasmosis in immunocompetent adults." These two drugs kill the actively proliferating form of T. gondii... but not the encystations or transmittable forms.
AIDS patients and others with major toxoplasmosis need hard-core, lifelong treatment.
http://www.emedicine.com/emerg/topic601.htm And I keep honking this book... "Parasite Rex" by Zimmer. The section on Toxoplasma and behaviour is worth the price of the book alone.
(PeteCresswell) - 10 Feb 2006 02:12 GMT Per Michael Rhino:
>> http://www.damninteresting.com/?p=399 That's really interesting - and the replies were entertaining too.
But after reading http://tinyurl.com/yoak, I have the impression that the article in the OP was somewhat sensationalized.
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NMR - 10 Feb 2006 02:18 GMT I wish people would not post and reply cross post into know troll newsgroup it just brings them here and the rest of us have to deal with their dribble
(PeteCresswell) - 10 Feb 2006 16:26 GMT Per NMR:
>dribble drivel?
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no@no.no - 12 Feb 2006 09:20 GMT >I wish people would not post and reply cross post into know troll newsgroup >it just brings them here and the rest of us have to deal with their dribble Alt.cats is nothing but trolls lately. I wont even read it.
Dr.Carla,DVM - 11 Feb 2006 23:25 GMT Yes, toxo does get spread by cats The parasite can infect a human. The life cycle of the parasite is complex but basically, A cat eats raw meat that has been infected and then passes the parasite through the it's digestive tract, is excreted and the parasite in the feces must sit around for 24 hours before it becomes infective. So I strongly suggest that if you feed your cat raw meat do not eat the feces that have been sitting around for a day. Other than that you cannot get toxo from your cat. Stop trying to terrify people.
> Brain parasites come from cats and affect 80% of the population! > > http://www.damninteresting.com/?p=399 John Wesley - 11 Feb 2006 23:47 GMT > Yes, toxo does get spread by cats The parasite can infect a human. > The life cycle of the parasite is complex but basically, A cat eats raw meat [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Other than that you cannot get toxo from your cat. > Stop trying to terrify people. If a dog gets into the feces can he get it? Like from a feral cat that eats a bird or mouse?
jw
(PeteCresswell) - 12 Feb 2006 00:22 GMT Per Dr.Carla,DVM:
>So I strongly suggest that if you feed your cat raw meat do not eat the >feces that have been sitting around for a day. >Other than that you cannot get toxo from your cat. How about inhaling dust from the litter box?
I'm thinking in terms of when I go over to take care of the neighbor's cat when they're away and the first time I go in there I do not know how long the box has been left before I get to it.
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Dr.Carla,DVM - 12 Feb 2006 10:44 GMT > If a dog gets into the feces can he get it? Like from a feral cat that eats a bird or mouse?
Short version: yes, all animals can become infected with toxoplasmosis from uncooked meat of an infected animal or from feces from an infected cat 24 hours after excreted from the cat.
> How about inhaling dust from the litter box? Short version: Yes, it is possible to contract toxoplasmosis from dust particles of infected cat feces that is more than 24 hours old and all sources (human medicine sources) stress the extreme rareness of this infection route in modern societies. These sources also comment that most recorded cases of infection by inhalation reveal a home that has a poorly maintained roof/attic where cat feces was discovered or are related to having a primary residence built out of vegetation.
A detailed explanation of toxoplasma gondii, the causative agent of toxoplasmosis:
Prevalence of this parasite in domestic animals is high (sheep 20%, cattle 25%, pigs 30%, dogs 30%, cats 45%, birds 12%). The most common mode of infection to a cat is through rodents. The most common mode of transmission to people is undercooked pork (this is one of the main reasons it is strongly recommended to cook pork to an internal temperature of at least 160 degrees). The Center for Disease Control (CDC) estimates that over 60 million people are infected with toxoplasma gondii and are asymptomatic or experience flu-like symptoms only. When symptoms due occur, the most common complaints are; fever, malaise (a vague feeling of discomfort), lymphadenopathy (enlarged and sometimes painful lymph nodes), encephalitis (inflammation of the brain), myocarditis (inflammation of the muscular walls of the heart), pneumonitis (inflammation of the lung), and retinochoroiditis (inflammation of the retina of the eye). 25% of AIDs patients die from toxoplasmosis most commonly because of a dormant toxoplasmosis. Congenital toxoplasmosis (from mother to baby) causes retinochoroiditis, intra-cerebral calcification (calcium deposits in the brain cause it to become hardened), hydrocephalus (fluid backup/accumulation in the brain), convulsions, mental retardation & learning abilities. This was a major concern for physicians of expectant parents until the life cycle of the parasite was discovered. Many physicians insisted that pets, especially cats be destroyed or at least removed from any expectant household. Through experimentation, it was discovered that toxoplasma gondii oocysts (you can think of this like an egg that is produced by a more mature form of the parasite) are excreted in the feces of cats and become infective in about 24 hours. The production of oocysts only occurs in cats. When toxoplasmosis is spread through the meat from other animals it is from eating meat that has not been cooked thoroughly. Cats will shed tens of thousands of oocysts during the time that they are infected (and probably asymptomatic). This stage of infection lasts about 3 days. Since most cats have been infected at one time in their life, and since infection does not mean the cat is shedding oocysts, testing the cat for this parasite is not extremely helpful. While some doctors will prefer to err on the side of caution and insist or strongly recommend that expectant families remove any cats from their homes, it is only necessary to take precautions. 1. Avoid contamination of your cat by feeding them dry, canned or thoroughly cooked food, prevent them from hunting, empty litter boxes daily (the oocyst needs at least 24 hours to sporulate and become infective), wear gloves or thoroughly wash hands after working in the garden, with soil, before eating, or touching the face. cover children's sandboxes when not in use (many outdoor cats use them for litter boxes), boil water from streams, ponds or lakes before drinking it. 2. Avoid ingestion of tissue cysts by cooking meat to over 156 degrees Fahrenheit, washing hands after handling raw meat, freezing meat for one day in a household freezer also kills tissue cysts. 3. An air filtering mask can be worn when gardening or emptying litter boxes. Prompt removal of cat feces, then flushing, or bagging them in zip-locking bags will help prevent infection by inhalation.
Richard Sexton - 12 Feb 2006 13:59 GMT Just not goddamn trying hard enough with those subject lines:
http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/02/12/0738233
Click, you pricks, it keeps quality science stories like this in the noose.
I can't WAIT till the break the Dihydrogen Oxide story.
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John Wesley - 13 Feb 2006 03:05 GMT > I can't WAIT till the break the Dihydrogen Oxide story. I had an Uncle who died of that.
jw
TDKozan - 12 Feb 2006 18:13 GMT Dr.Carla, {USENET} DVM wrote:
>> If a dog gets into the feces can he get it? Like from a feral cat that > eats a bird or mouse? [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Short version: Yes, it is possible to contract toxoplasmosis from dust > particles of infected cat feces that is more than 24 hours old . . . <Snip backpedal>
Ah HA!
So, not to put too fine a point on it, you were talking out your a.s when you said:
"So I strongly suggest that if you feed your cat raw meat do not eat the feces that have been sitting around for a day. Other than that you cannot get toxo from your cat."
What makes you more credible now?
You . . . Just. . . may. . . be. . .
One of _Them_.
Spreading infestation, pestilence, filth and feline mental dominion with your dismissive supercility.
Free Humanity, Rise up!
We've FOUND one of the Pussy Brain Bug Quislings in our Very Midst! Betraying her very race in the service of the Furry Fiends. . .
Yah, it's a boring day but you'll have to fill in the rest of the purple prose yourselves.
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Dr.Carla,DVM - 15 Feb 2006 03:35 GMT You can die crossing the street, but I wouldn't recommend staying on one side of the road. But, fine, I admit that if you are the type of person that won't touch doorknobs because of germs, then you know what, you should not have pets and sterilize everything you own. There is no reason for people to be paranoid about getting toxoplasmosis from just owning a cat. Personally, I'm not that kind of person, and I don't recommend being the type that scares that easily. I apologize for giving you a false sense of security. If you want to block me, fine, that is your prerogative. For the rest of us, who keep clean houses, and don't put things in our mouth that don't belong there, toxoplasmosis its not something to stay up nights worrying about, unless you eat day old infected cat feces.
> Dr.Carla, {USENET} DVM wrote: >>> If a dog gets into the feces can he get it? Like from a feral cat that [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > > TK Richard Sexton - 15 Feb 2006 05:58 GMT >For the rest of us, who keep clean houses, and don't put things in our mouth >that don't belong there, toxoplasmosis its not something to stay up nights And the rest of us?
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Michael Rhino - 16 Feb 2006 02:04 GMT > For the rest of us, who keep clean houses, and don't put things in our > mouth that don't belong there, I just put a tortilla chip in my mouth. Given that I need to watch my weight, cholesterol, and salt, that may have been a bad idea.
John Wesley - 16 Feb 2006 03:32 GMT > > For the rest of us, who keep clean houses, and don't put things in our > > mouth that don't belong there, > > I just put a tortilla chip in my mouth. Given that I need to watch my > weight, cholesterol, and salt, that may have been a bad idea. Probably still better for you than day old cat poop.
John Wesley - 13 Feb 2006 03:04 GMT > > If a dog gets into the feces can he get it? Like from a feral cat that > eats a bird or mouse? > > Short version: yes, all animals can become infected with toxoplasmosis from > uncooked meat of an infected animal or from feces from an infected cat 24 > hours after excreted from the cat. Thanks,
Another reason to give my wife for trying to catch the feral cats.
jw
Alraune - 12 Feb 2006 02:00 GMT > Yes, toxo does get spread by cats The parasite can infect a human. > The life cycle of the parasite is complex but basically, A cat eats raw meat [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > So I strongly suggest that if you feed your cat raw meat do not eat the > feces that have been sitting around for a day. If Bast didn't want us to eat catshit, she wouldn't have made them look like Tootsie Rolls.
Alraune
Patrick I. McCurry - 18 Feb 2006 08:57 GMT >> Yes, toxo does get spread by cats The parasite can infect a human. >> The life cycle of the parasite is complex but basically, A cat eats >> raw meat that has been infected and then passes the parasite through
>> the it's digestive tract, is excreted and the parasite in the feces
>> must sit around for 24 hours before it becomes infective. >> So I strongly suggest that if you feed your cat raw meat do not eat [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Alraune That's true for my cat Fireball. My cat Cerberus, on the other hand, leaves disturbingly human looking "deposits".
lynx - 18 Feb 2006 13:12 GMT >Yes, toxo does get spread by cats The parasite can infect a human. >The life cycle of the parasite is complex but basically, A cat eats raw meat [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >feces that have been sitting around for a day. > LOL!
>Other than that you cannot get toxo from your cat. >Stop trying to terrify people. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >> >> http://www.damninteresting.com/?p=399
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Phil - 12 Feb 2006 14:31 GMT > Brain parasites come from cats and affect 80% of the population! > > http://www.damninteresting.com/?p=399 Seems to explain those crazy old ladies that live with hundreds of cats crapping al over the house.
Opwernby - 21 Feb 2006 00:56 GMT > Brain parasites come from cats and affect 80% of the population! > > http://www.damninteresting.com/?p=399 "Infected women appeared more warm-hearted and outgoing." -- my wife doesn't have it, then...
LMR - 21 Feb 2006 01:54 GMT >"Infected women appeared more warm-hearted and outgoing." -- my wife doesn't >have it, then... Tee hee.
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