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Michael Rhino - 21 Jan 2006 04:44 GMT
Today is a sad day.  I gave my cat away to someone at work.  She is 18
months old, so I owned her for about 16 months.  A week ago, it seemed like
a good idea, but the day before, I was sad.  A week ahead of time, there was
no firm date or new owner yet.  Once somebody said "can I pick her up
tomorrow," that bothered me.  I wasn't ready yet, but I followed through on
it.

My cat was terrified of me today.  When I fed her this morning, she was
fine.  I came home at 9 am, because I wanted to take her to Petsmart to get
her claws trimmed.  She was terrified of me.  I didn't want to traumatize
her twice in one day, so I left.  I went to the vet, got her medical
records, and gave them to the new owner.  I came back at 3 pm to get the cat
and she was still terrified.  She hid under the bed.  I waited 15 minutes.
I closed the bedroom door and tried to use a broom to get her, but that
didn't work.  I stood the bed on end and that worked.

I petted her for a minute, but she didn't want to stay in my lap, so I took
her in for the claw trim and took her to work.  People were asking why I
would give a way such a pretty cat.  I felt bad.  These pictures are old,
but if you want to see what she looked like as a kitten:

http://www.alexanderpics.com/photos/c_pic_cat.htm
NMR - 21 Jan 2006 04:47 GMT
Mike I am sorry you had to give up your friend
If you don't mind may I ask why you could not keep her
Michael Rhino - 21 Jan 2006 04:55 GMT
> Mike I am sorry you had to give up your friend
> If you don't mind may I ask why you could not keep her

I could keep her, but I feel like she's in the way a lot.  She was gaining
weight and I think part of the problem is lack of exercise.  She was
strictly an indoor cat even though she was born outdoors.  I live alone in a
one bedroom apartment.  I go to work.  I come home and spend some time with
the cat.  I go to bed.  She wants to sleep with me, but I lock her out of
the bedroom.  It was a nightly struggle to get into the bedroom without the
cat.  She was lonely most of the time.  I should have gotten her a playmate,
but if I don't particularly like one cat, then why get two.
NMR - 21 Jan 2006 05:01 GMT
   Than you did the right thing letting her go to a place that you can give
her the attention that she needs.  Mike I don't know you or how old you are
but you stepped up and were very mature in your decision to do the right
thing.  Maybe later in your life you will be able to find a four leg (s)
that will make you their slave.  Till than many happy thoughts and keep
those pictures later on you will regret if you loss them.

Matthew

>> Mike I am sorry you had to give up your friend
>> If you don't mind may I ask why you could not keep her
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> her a playmate, but if I don't particularly like one cat, then why get
> two.
whayface - 21 Jan 2006 14:10 GMT
>> Mike I am sorry you had to give up your friend
>> If you don't mind may I ask why you could not keep her

>I could keep her, but I feel like she's in the way a lot.  She was gaining
>weight and I think part of the problem is lack of exercise.  She was
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>cat.  She was lonely most of the time.  I should have gotten her a playmate,
>but if I don't particularly like one cat, then why get two.

Good thing you do not have children!!  You probably would give them away also !!!

The only good thing is it is young enough that she will bond with someone else and
(Hopefully) forget her experience with you !!!  Hopefully it's new human will not get rid
of it because it is too much work, gains too much weight, ETC.

I hope you feel rotten for a long time and never get another furbaby !!  They do not
deserve to be with someone the likes of you !!!
~*Connie*~ - 21 Jan 2006 14:19 GMT
>>> Mike I am sorry you had to give up your friend
>>> If you don't mind may I ask why you could not keep her
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
> They do not
> deserve to be with someone the likes of you !!!

Michael did the right thing.  He got a cat, realized it wasn't for him, and
found him a new home, and felt regret about the whole thing.  He didn't toss
it out on the street, or bring it into a shelter, or even kill it - which a
lot of people do.  I can understand your frustration NMR, but cats AREN"T
for everyone. (as much as I would like them to be)
MaryL - 21 Jan 2006 16:15 GMT
>>>> Mike I am sorry you had to give up your friend
>>>> If you don't mind may I ask why you could not keep her
[quoted text clipped - 31 lines]
> it - which a lot of people do.  I can understand your frustration NMR, but
> cats AREN"T for everyone. (as much as I would like them to be)

He did the "right thing" because he could not or would not (in my opinion,
*would* not) care for it properly.  Nevertheless, this is a mindset that I
simply do not understand.  My furbabies are family to me.  Once I adopt (or
they adopt me), it is a lifetime commitment.  They are not disposable
objects to be tossed aside if they are not "convenient."  My Duffy was the
victim of that type of mindset.  Even though he was blind and a completely
wonderful cat, he was returned to the shelter (a kill shelter) after two
years.  He then spent several months in a cage before I adopted him, and the
woman who "returned" him had to know that there was a very good chance that
he would be euthanized.  Fortunately, shelter staff did everything they
could to keep him until a home could be found (much to my good fortune --  
and his, I think).  Michael did not do that, so he did take the best course
of action if he was not going to keep his cat.  However, I hope he will
remember this experience and *never ever* adopt another pet.

MaryL
MaryL - 21 Jan 2006 16:59 GMT
>However, I hope he will remember this experience and *never ever* adopt
>another pet.
>
>MaryL

I would like to modify that last sentence (quoted above) from my own message
because I think it was a bit harsh.  I should have said that I hope he will
remember this experience and never adopt another pet *unless he is fully
prepared to make a lifelong commitment.*  Michael did, indeed, do the
responsible thing if he was not going to keep his cat.  He found a home for
her and did not simply dump her at a shelter -- and it is clear that he has
some guilt feelings about the whole thing.

MaryL
Will-Lee-Cue - 21 Jan 2006 17:50 GMT
> I would like to modify that last sentence (quoted above) from my own
> message because I think it was a bit harsh.  I should have said that I
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> MaryL

Mary, Whayface, whatever your name is, the bad thing about the internet is
once you post something it is there forever. You responded to a post in a
cold, uncaring, sarcastic, way and now after being criticized for it you
want to repent.
How about doing some serious thinking next time you feel the urge to
belittle, bad mouth, or put down someone on a forum.

Willee
MaryL - 21 Jan 2006 17:54 GMT
>> I would like to modify that last sentence (quoted above) from my own
>> message because I think it was a bit harsh.  I should have said that I
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
> Willee

No, I am not Whayface.  We are two different people.  And, no, I did not
"repent" after being criticized.  I stand by all except my last sentence --  
and if you will check the timestamps, you will see that I updated my own
post *well before* any of the other respones were sent.

I was not trying to be cold, but I do indeed fail to see why many people
look at animals as disposable objects.  At the same time, I do appreciate
the fact that Michael took responsibility for finding another home instead
of simply abandoning his cat.

MaryL
Will-Lee-Cue - 21 Jan 2006 19:57 GMT
> No, I am not Whayface.  We are two different people.
> MaryL

Odd that both you and Whayface used the term "furbabys".
No one else used that term and the rest of your post sure looked like it was
from the same person.

Willee
MaryL - 21 Jan 2006 20:14 GMT
>> No, I am not Whayface.  We are two different people.
>> MaryL
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> Willee

No, it's not the same person -- and "furbabies" is a very common term used
on many cats newsgroups.  Likewise, you will find that many of us use terms
like "foreverhome."  They are terms of endearment.  You need to look beyond
a single commonly-used word if you are trying to find similarities,
especially if you are going to make the enormous (and incorrect) leap in
thinking that we are the same person.  If you take the time to check, I
think you will find that my style of writing is very different than
Whaycat's.  Likewise, if you google, you will find *numerous* messages from
both of us, and we are not always in agreement.

I do not use sockpuppets.  I have always posted under the same name, from
the first day I used the Internet.  I have used a couple of addresses, but
they are consistent -- I have simply changed on a couple of occasions when
spam would begin to be intrusive (and then I use that address for a long
period of time).  If I want to post, I do so as MaryL and I never try to
avoid archiving.

MaryL
Will-Lee-Cue - 21 Jan 2006 22:22 GMT
OK Mary,  ...  my bad.
Sorry for the accusation.
I guess I should take some of my own advice and think a bit more before
posting.

Willee

>>> No, I am not Whayface.  We are two different people.
>>> MaryL
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>
> MaryL
MaryL - 21 Jan 2006 23:47 GMT
> OK Mary,  ...  my bad.
> Sorry for the accusation.
> I guess I should take some of my own advice and think a bit more before
> posting.
>
> Willee

Thanks.  I guess all of us make too many assumptions sometimes.  The
Internet has many advantages, but one of the disadvantages is that is is
easy to "speak/type first and think later."

MaryL
Will-Lee-Cue - 21 Jan 2006 17:45 GMT
> He did the "right thing" because he could not or would not (in my opinion,
> *would* not) care for it properly.  Nevertheless, this is a mindset that I
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
> MaryL

What is this ... another alais for Whayface?

Willee
NMR - 21 Jan 2006 17:19 GMT
>>>> Mike I am sorry you had to give up your friend
>>>> If you don't mind may I ask why you could not keep her
[quoted text clipped - 31 lines]
> it - which a lot of people do.  I can understand your frustration NMR, but
> cats AREN"T for everyone. (as much as I would like them to be)

That was not from me that was from whayface

this was my post
"Than you did the right thing letting her go to a place that you can give
her the attention that she needs.  Mike I don't know you or how old you are
but you stepped up and were very mature in your decision to do the right
thing.  Maybe later in your life you will be able to find a four leg (s)
that will make you their slave.  Till than many happy thoughts and keep
those pictures later on you will regret if you loss them.

Matthew"
Will-Lee-Cue - 21 Jan 2006 17:43 GMT
>>> Mike I am sorry you had to give up your friend
>>> If you don't mind may I ask why you could not keep her
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
> They do not
> deserve to be with someone the likes of you !!!

Ya know whayface, people like you are bitter, cold, mean natured, and think
they know everything.
I would much rather be around someone like Mike than someone like you.
At least Mike was open and honest about his feelings.
He did what a responsible person should have done.
He tried a cat and found it was not working out so he placed it in another
home.
He obviously cared what happened to the cat.

Why do you feel the need to bad mouth the guy for doing the right thing.

Willee
Foundryrat - 23 Jan 2006 03:26 GMT
>>>Mike I am sorry you had to give up your friend
>>>If you don't mind may I ask why you could not keep her
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> I hope you feel rotten for a long time and never get another furbaby !!  They do not
> deserve to be with someone the likes of you !!!

What's the matter to you.  Michael did the right
thing gave the cat away to a good home.  Some
people just aren't cat people cantcha respect that.
mandotar@verizon.net - 21 Jan 2006 19:51 GMT
> > Mike I am sorry you had to give up your friend
> > If you don't mind may I ask why you could not keep her
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> cat.  She was lonely most of the time.  I should have gotten her a playmate,
> but if I don't particularly like one cat, then why get two.

Gosh.  She was in the way, she was gaining weight, and you wouldn't
even sleep with her.

I wonder why you thought you ought to own a cat?

Lisa
Michael Rhino - 24 Jan 2006 06:03 GMT
>> > Mike I am sorry you had to give up your friend
>> > If you don't mind may I ask why you could not keep her
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
>
> Lisa

I didn't know in advance that I wouldn't like sleeping with her.  She kept
waking me up in the middle of the night.  I didn't mind the weight gain, but
I thought that she would be healthier in a place where she got more
exercise.
NMR - 24 Jan 2006 06:10 GMT
"Michael Rhino" <news2005@alexanderpics.com>

You did the right thing Michael  don't question yourself
mandotar@verizon.net - 24 Jan 2006 15:24 GMT
> >> > Mike I am sorry you had to give up your friend
> >> > If you don't mind may I ask why you could not keep her
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
> I thought that she would be healthier in a place where she got more
> exercise.

I think you did the right thing by giving her to someone who wanted
her.  Someone probably told you that cats are very low-maintenace pets,
and that you should get one because it would be perfect for your
bachelor lifestyle.

Cats aren't all that low maintenance.  They're not quite as high
maintenance as dogs, but they sure can't be ignored.

They needs lots of love, attention and care.

Lisa
223rem - 24 Jan 2006 21:57 GMT
> Cats aren't all that low maintenance.  

I disagree. I have 3 cats, and am away from the house for several days in
a row regularly. They're very happy and in good shape. They get in and out through
an open window, come in to sleep and eat, and mostly defecate outside. All I have
to worry about is water and food--and, occasionally the vet for fighting wounds :(
mandotar@verizon.net - 25 Jan 2006 13:59 GMT
> > Cats aren't all that low maintenance.
>
> I disagree. I have 3 cats, and am away from the house for several days in
> a row regularly.

My cats felt blue if I even ignored them for only a couple of hours.
Of course, I only owned one at a time.  And they were mostly indoor
cats.

> They're very happy and in good shape. They get in and out through
> an open window, come in to sleep and eat, and mostly defecate outside. All I have
> to worry about is water and food--and, occasionally the vet for fighting wounds :(

A word to the wise---they may not live long if they spend so much time
outdoors. Sooner or later, something will get them.

Lisa
223rem - 25 Jan 2006 14:32 GMT
> A word to the wise---they may not live long if they spend so much time
> outdoors. Sooner or later, something will get them.

I know. But they love being outside-running, climbing trees,
hunting, etc. And once a cat tastes the outdoors, he will
be very unhappy if confined indoors. I guess a short happy
life is better than a long sad one.
MaryL - 25 Jan 2006 22:15 GMT
>> A word to the wise---they may not live long if they spend so much time
>> outdoors. Sooner or later, something will get them.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> be very unhappy if confined indoors. I guess a short happy
> life is better than a long sad one.

Better yet is a long happy life!  My cats are indoor-only and show
absolutely no interest in going outdoors.  There is no reason why an indoor
cat should be a "sad" cat.  Of course, they have *always* been indoor cats,
and I provide lots of toys, scratching posts, cat trees, and attention.  My
first cat (who was feral when I adopted him at approximately 8 months age)
lived to be almost 20 and my next cat died at the age of 16.  Holly will be
11 in June, and Duffy is approximately 7.

MaryL

Photos of Duffy and Holly:      >'o'<
Duffy:  http://tinyurl.com/cslwf
Holly:  http://tinyurl.com/9t68o
Duffy and Holly together:  http://tinyurl.com/8b47e
(PeteCresswell) - 25 Jan 2006 22:25 GMT
Per MaryL:
>My
>first cat (who was feral when I adopted him at approximately 8 months age)

Did it ever get to the point where it was a 100% normal domestic cat?

We've had ours about a year now and, although it's come a looooong way, it still
snaps out every once in awhile.
Signature

PeteCresswell

MaryL - 26 Jan 2006 03:14 GMT
> Per MaryL:
>>My
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> still
> snaps out every once in awhile.

Yes, he became an absolutely loving, affectionate cat.  Many people have
told me that is unusual, but he was truly wonderful.  It took 2-3 years
before I would say he really "bonded" to me, and during that time I had to
be super-cautious that he did not go outside.  I lived in an apartment in
town (on a busy street corner), and he had been trapped in a rural area --  
so it could have been disastrous if he had gone outdoors.  After that time,
though, he gradually became one of the most affectionate cats I have seen,
and he lost all interest in going outdoors on his own.  He did seem to want
to go out *with* me, so I trained him to walk on a harness and leash.
Actually, he took me for walks rather than the other way around -- I would
walk behind and let him lead the way.  He seemed perfectly content with that
arrangement, and I met many new friends who were delighted with the idea of
a cat that would walk while in a harness.  He lived to be almost 20 years of
age, but the vet told me that he would not have lived more than a few weeks
if he had remained outdoors on his own because it turned out that he had a
severe bladder infection at the time I adopted him.

MaryL
223rem - 25 Jan 2006 22:52 GMT
> My cats are indoor-only and show
> absolutely no interest in going outdoors.

You sure? Cats are very curious and love to
explore. If your cats had access to a permanently open window they'd eventually
venture out--on their own terms. And, in time, they'd end spending more time out than in.
MaryL - 26 Jan 2006 03:18 GMT
>> My cats are indoor-only and show absolutely no interest in going
>> outdoors.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> venture out--on their own terms. And, in time, they'd end spending more
> time out than in.

Of course, it's possible they would go outside under those circumstances
(and I *am* very careful never to leave a door open), but why should I take
a chance with their health and safety when they are delightful, happy cats
now?  In fact, that would be an almost-certain death sentence for Duffy
because he is blind and has never been outdoors.  Moreover, I see dead cats
by the side of the road on an increasingly frequent basis.  That is not what
I want for mine.

MaryL

Photos of Duffy and Holly:      >'o'<
Duffy:  http://tinyurl.com/cslwf
Holly:  http://tinyurl.com/9t68o
Duffy and Holly together:  http://tinyurl.com/8b47e
223rem - 26 Jan 2006 03:56 GMT
> now?  In fact, that would be an almost-certain death sentence for Duffy
> because he is blind and has never been outdoors.  

Your adopting of a blind cat was an admirable, selfless act. I dont know
if I could do something like that.
MaryL - 26 Jan 2006 04:25 GMT
>> now?  In fact, that would be an almost-certain death sentence for Duffy
>> because he is blind and has never been outdoors.
>
> Your adopting of a blind cat was an admirable, selfless act. I dont know
> if I could do something like that.

Thanks.  On the other hand, it has turned out that he is a tremendous gift
*to me.*  Duffy is a remarkable, happy, delightful, and loving little guy.
I can't imagine a better companion.

MaryL
Wayne Boatwright - 26 Jan 2006 04:47 GMT
On Wed 25 Jan 2006 08:18:38p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it MaryL?

>>> My cats are indoor-only and show absolutely no interest in going
>>> outdoors.
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
> Holly:  http://tinyurl.com/9t68o
> Duffy and Holly together:  http://tinyurl.com/8b47e

Sweet cats!

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Wayne Boatwright Õ¿Õ¬
________________________________________

Okay, okay, I take it back! UnScrew you!

John Wesley - 26 Jan 2006 04:54 GMT
> > Cats aren't all that low maintenance.  
>
> I disagree. I have 3 cats, and am away from the house for several days in
> a row regularly. They're very happy and in good shape. They get in and out through
> an open window, come in to sleep and eat, and mostly defecate outside. All I have
> to worry about is water and food--and, occasionally the vet for fighting wounds :(

I'm sure your neighbors love you!

jw
Beth M. - 21 Jan 2006 18:25 GMT
You mention she was "terrified of me" several times.  Why would a cat, that
you owned for 16 months, be so terrified of you???
NMR - 21 Jan 2006 18:33 GMT
> You mention she was "terrified of me" several times.  Why would a cat,
> that you owned for 16 months, be so terrified of you???

That is easy to answer animals pick up on human emotions if he was stressed
out from the day was going to bring the furball would have picked up on it
to.  My cats know when I am in a bad mood and stay clear till I am doing
better don't yours
Michael Rhino - 21 Jan 2006 18:57 GMT
> You mention she was "terrified of me" several times.  Why would a cat,
> that you owned for 16 months, be so terrified of you???

Normally it isn't.  It wasn't the day before.  When it senses that I want to
put it in the pet carrier, it suddenly is.  It doesn't like getting its
claws trimmed or going to the vet.
Karin Gillette - 21 Jan 2006 21:33 GMT
Whatever his reason was it was the right thing to do, let the dear one go to
a owner that had the time for the responsibility of owning a pet.  He
admitted that he was gone alot and lived in a small apt.  2 cats might not
of been the most pratical.

Our two furbabys sleep with us, my mother loved having my cat but did not
like her sleeping with her. Neko likes the foot of the bed or right beside
her daddy's tummy.  Sissy likes to sleep on my pillow.  It doesn't bother me
but my husband would never allow his to be on the pillow.

Michael realized that having a cat was not for him and found a suitable
home.

> Today is a sad day.  I gave my cat away to someone at work.  She is 18
> months old, so I owned her for about 16 months.  A week ago, it seemed like
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
>
> http://www.alexanderpics.com/photos/c_pic_cat.htm
Mandy - 22 Jan 2006 07:04 GMT
What i dont understand is why get a cat if you dont particularly like one.
I hope that poor baby has gone to a good home and is much loved
Mandy

> Today is a sad day.  I gave my cat away to someone at work.  She is 18
> months old, so I owned her for about 16 months.  A week ago, it seemed like
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
>
> http://www.alexanderpics.com/photos/c_pic_cat.htm
Will-Lee-Cue - 22 Jan 2006 15:00 GMT
Mandy, how does a person know in advance?
Kittens are so cute and playful.
I think that was an intentional design of nature.
Perhaps he (or she) was lonley and thought a kitty would be a good
compainion.
They do require less attention than a dog.
After a few weeks or months realized they did not like the cat and decided
to disolve the relationship.

People do that all the time ... it is called divorce.

Willee

> What i dont understand is why get a cat if you dont particularly like one.
> I hope that poor baby has gone to a good home and is much loved
> Mandy
~*Connie*~ - 22 Jan 2006 15:34 GMT
> Mandy, how does a person know in advance?
> Kittens are so cute and playful.
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> Willee

LOL.. thanks for the chuckle.. it was needed this morning.

the bit on here about kittens are so cute and playful and it being an
intentional design, reminded me of Rick Cowlings "Ive got Cats" where he
sings " don't know how this all got started, Must be an evil feline scam
These little kittens sucker you with cuteness, So you take them home
Then they take your house and make you buy them kitty toys and sand,  "

www.ivegotcats.com
NMR - 22 Jan 2006 19:37 GMT
"~*Connie*~" <no@spam.com> wrote in message

On your earlier comment  that was not me that said what you quoted that was
whayface
 
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