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Helen Robertson - 21 Feb 2004 00:07 GMT Hi
Could anyone tell me where I can buy this on the internet. I have been to a few sites, but they don't ship internationally (UK). I was on the actual Fancy Feast website and my cats would love all these different flavours. If anyone can help, I would really appreciate it. Thanks in advance.
Regards Helen Robertson
Fan - 21 Feb 2004 04:49 GMT >Hi > >Could anyone tell me where I can buy this on the internet. I have been to a few sites, but they don't ship internationally (UK). I was on the actual Fancy Feast website and my cats would love all these different flavours. If anyone can help, I would really appreciate it. Thanks in advance. > >Regards >Helen Robertson I usually get it at PetSmart, but I don't know of they would ship to UK. Walmart has a limited number of flavors, and Sams Club has even less. The reason for this reply is simply to say that this is a great product. We have found that many cats who turn up their nose at other foods, like at least on of their flavors. They also have many flavors and new additions all the time.
Disclaimer: I have no financial interest in any company that is, in any way, associated with this product. I just like it.
whayface - 21 Feb 2004 13:38 GMT >I usually get it at PetSmart, but I don't know of they would ship to >UK. Walmart has a limited number of flavors, and Sams Club has even >less. The Sams in Saginaw, Michigan, USA carries none of the flaked which is what mine likes.
Luvskats00 - 21 Feb 2004 11:43 GMT "Helen Robertson" helenrobertson@username.f9.co.uk
>Could anyone tell me where I can buy this on the internet. I have been >to a few sites, but they don't ship internationally (UK). 1) you can email fancy feast directly and ask the company to provide the names of some stores/websites in the UK that sell Fancy Feast.
2) You can do a google search using "fancy feast, stores (retail outlets, pet supplies), UK
3) You can email big pet supply chains such as Petco and ask them for UK outlets that sell Fancy Feast.
I have two cats; one eats only Fancy Feast and the other eats only Iams. Both also eat Chef's Blend dry food.
Helen Robertson - 21 Feb 2004 13:26 GMT Thank you both for your help!
> "Helen Robertson" helenrobertson@username.f9.co.uk > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > I have two cats; one eats only Fancy Feast and the other eats only Iams. Both > also eat Chef's Blend dry food. Dik F. Liu - 22 Feb 2004 02:05 GMT I can't see the file but if you are talking about Fancy Feast, it's a very common brand here in the States. The brand is nothing special. But, I do know one breeder who uses it for her breeding program. I trust that she really cares for the well being of her cats.
If you want exotic flavors, you might want to look into Nature's Variety. Besides the conventional flavors, it also comes in venison, duck, and rabbit. Nature's Variety is a pricy brand but my cat loves these unusual flavors. So, I supplement these with her regular diet.
Dik
Sherry - 22 Feb 2004 05:51 GMT >I can't see the file but if you are talking about Fancy Feast, it's a very >common brand here in the States. The brand is nothing special. But, I do know >one breeder who uses it for her breeding program. I trust that she really >cares >for the well being of her cats. Fancy Feast isn't the worst food on the market, but it really isn't the best for their health, either. It's high in fat and sodium, and that's why cats love it so much. (or, that's what my vet tells me)....sounds like us human's preferences. It's very good to give to sick cats who are off their food though. (I have a Fancy Feast junkie here, too)
Sherry
Dik F. Liu - 25 Feb 2004 01:04 GMT >Fancy Feast isn't the worst food on the market, but it really isn't the best for their health, either. It's high in fat and sodium, and that's why cats love it so much.<
For young cats it's probably tolerable. But I notice that Fancy Feast is fairly odorous, which for my cat means dragon breath.
These days, my cat's wet diet varies between Nutro Natural, Wellness, Precise, and Nature's Variety. Sometimes, I mix her food with a bit of raw ground beef.
Ahh, things we do for our cats.
Dik
whayface - 25 Feb 2004 13:46 GMT >>Fancy Feast isn't the worst food on the market, but it really isn't the best >for their health, either. It's high in fat and sodium, and that's why cats love [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > >Dik My vet told me that if my babies do not want to eat to get the "SMELLY" food and it is true. They seem to like the "aromatic" stuff the best!!
What They Are Not Telling Us About Cat Food (Or What's the FUS About Ash?) --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
That tiny print in the fold of a bag of cat food is supposed to tell us everything we need to know about whether the contents will keep our beloved tabby in the pink, or corrode his kidneys. Yet most brands obscure the information we need by providing too much information, and leaving out what we are really looking for. The other day I read about a dozen bags in the grocery store. Only one mentioned ash content (it was much too high), and the one that claimed to be good for a cat's urinary tract couldn't explain why it actually is (if it is). If you have ever dealt with a cat's failing kidneys you know that you want to do whatever you can from the first day you bring that cute kitten into your home to keep those innards healthy, and all the plumbing working.
So why can't they just have a urinary tract rating. A 1 would be best for cats, especially male cats who are prone to developing urinary problems. A 10 would be really really bad for them (but they like it the best, kind of like Doritos).
The Real Deal: Most cats don't even get FUS/FLUTD (feline urologic syndrome/feline lower urinary tract disease), but why not be safe now and not sorry later? Get good quality cat foods for life and you are likely to have a healthy cat.
A good low-ash cat food should not contain more than 6% ash (based on 100% dry weight). Magnesium in a low-ash cat food should be no more than 0.1% and no less than .05%. Try to avoid by-products. Get real chicken, beef, lamb etc. Some say fish is suspect relative to FUS/FLUTD.
If the bag doesn't tell the ash or magnesium content or other information you are looking for, call the company or get another brand.
Dry Matter Value Forumula Look at the "Guaranteed Analysis" on a label Subtract the moisture percentage from 100 Divide the resulting figure into the crude protein figure (disregard decimals when dividing) The result will be a close approximation of protein by dry matter value
(You can use the same formula to calculate the percentage of fat or fiber by dry matter value.)
Example:
Here are figures from three different cat foods I happened to have on hand. They are from three different manufacturers, which shall remain anonymous for purpose of this exercise.
Brand A Premium Canned Food: Protein, 8.5% | Moisture, 78% Brand B Premium Dry Food: Protein, 32% | Moisture, 10% Brand C "Supermarket Brand" Canned Food: Protein, 10% | Moisture: 78%
Brand A: Using the formula above, and subtracting the moisture from 100%, we divide the remainder, 22 into the 8.5 protein content for a result of 38.5% protein by dry matter.
Brand B: 100 minus 10 equals 90, divided into 32 gives us 35.5%.
Brand C: 100 minus 78 equals 22 divided into 10 for 45%.
You can see in the example given that the two canned food brands contain more dry matter protein content than Brand B, a dry food, which at first glance seems to contain far more protein. In fact, by this test alone, one might think that Brand C (the "supermarket" brand) is superior for protein content.
Not so fast!
Actually, the first two listed ingredients on Brand C's label are "meat by-products," and "poultry by-products," which were listed under "What to Avoid" in the first part of this series. The protein quality of this "supermarket" brand simply does not make the cut.
The 95%, 25%, 3% Rules
AAFCO has provided certain other rules for "truth in advertising" in cat foods. Don't let those fancy designations such as "gourmet" or "feast" slip one past you. With these rules you'll know at least the minimum your cat is getting of the advertised ingredient. Here are the rules: The 95% Rule A cat food may not be labeled simply "Chicken for Cats," or "Chicken Cat Food," unless it contains 95% or more chicken by total weight of the product. The 25% Rule Foods labeled "Chicken Entre," "Chicken Dinner," "Chicken Feast," or the like, must contain 25% to 95% chicken. Combinations, such as "Chicken and Beef Dinner" must contain a total of 25% to 95% of the combined meats, listed in order of quantity, and the second meat listed must comprise at least 3% of the total weight. (Imagine ordering a "steak and lobster" dinner and finding the "lobster" will barely fill a fork.) The 3% Rule A food labelled "Kitty Stew with Chicken" must contain 3% or more chicken. ("With" is the optimum word here.) "Flavor" Barely worth mentioning here, but if you see something similar to "chicken flavored," be assured that the product is unlikely to contain any chicken at all, as long as there is a "sufficiently detectable" amount of chicken flavor. Since these "flavors" may be the result of digests or by-products of the named animal, I'd avoid these at all costs.
Sherry - 25 Feb 2004 14:05 GMT >My vet told me that if my babies do not want to eat to get the "SMELLY" food >and it is >true. They seem to like the "aromatic" stuff the best!! Absolutely true. I'm not dissing Fancy Feast. It saved Yoda's life. He had hepatic lipidosis and we were having to force-feed him with a syringe just to keep him alive. The *only* thing that got him back to eating on his own was Fancy Feast. I do think Nutro or Pro Plan are better foods, but hey, if he goes back to refusing food, the first thing I offer him is Fancy Feast. He's a real FF junkie.
Sherry
Dik F. Liu - 25 Feb 2004 18:11 GMT >The *only* thing that got him back to eating on his own was Fancy Feast. I do think Nutro or Pro Plan are better foods, but hey, if he goes back to refusing food, the first thing I offer him is Fancy Feast.<
Sure, sometimes when a cat refuse to eat, only smelly food will do. My cat is obsessed with my smelly socks - the smellier the better, it seems. She drags them all over my loft.
Here is a video to show it: http://members.aol.com/dikfliu/KittyDukakis.AVI
Dik
Dik
Cheryl - 25 Feb 2004 22:23 GMT > My cat is > obsessed with my smelly socks - the smellier the better, it seems. She > drags them all over my loft. > > Here is a video to show it: > http://members.aol.com/dikfliu/KittyDukakis.AVI LOL Too cute!
XMar - 25 Feb 2004 22:47 GMT NOW that is what my harmony looks like....except she has white points and a white stripe down her face...
Dik Is your cat a russian blue??
>>My cat is >>obsessed with my smelly socks - the smellier the better, it seems. She >>drags them all over my loft. >> >>Here is a video to show it: >>http://members.aol.com/dikfliu/KittyDukakis.AVI Dik F. Liu - 26 Feb 2004 03:13 GMT >Is your cat a russian blue??< Wow, good eye! You guessed that she is a Russian Blue from that grainy video?! No, she is not a Russian Blue. But you are close. My cat is a Korat. Korats are from the Korat plateau in Thailand. Compared to Russian Blues, Korats are rounder and have a darker gray coat. Russian Blues have a double coat. Their awn and down hair are of the same length (unique among cat fancy, I think). In contrast, Korats are single coat cats. Korats actually have no undercoat (down hair). So, they don't really shed as other cats do. Korats only go through a very light shedding each Spring. They don't even go through a Fall shedding.
I am mildly allergic to cats - especially to cats that shed heavily. This is why I have to adopt a Korat.
Dik
XMar - 26 Feb 2004 14:56 GMT Well the reason I guesses RB is because my youngest, though certianly not a pure breed, has a strong breed of 'something' going on, perhaps RB. She has the silver blue coat of a RB, but not the double coat. If anything her coat is very fine and silky like. She also has a heart shaped face.
After reading up on the Korat, perhaps that is what the strong breed presence is. When I saw your video of your cat, it SO reminded me of Harmony. She also fetches like your cat does your socks. She will bring me one of her toys, I throw it, she retrieves it and not just brings in back to the general area of where I am at. She brings it right up to me wanting to play again.
>>Is your cat a russian blue??< > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Dik Dik F. Liu - 26 Feb 2004 21:41 GMT >Well the reason I guesses RB is because my youngest, though certianly not a pure breed, has a strong breed of 'something' going on, perhaps RB.<
Gosh, who knows. Gray is among the commonest colors among cats. Gray in cats is basically a diluted black. It is common in mixed breeds and predigree cats alike. Many mixed breeds are gray. Korats, Russian Blues, Chartreuxes, and Nebelungs are only acceptable in gray (called blue). But both Korats and Russian Blues have known to birth none-gray kittens. Gray is also found in many other predigree cats. Burmese also comes in gray. British Shorthairs are often gray. My upstair neighbor has a gray mixed breed that, at a glance, is a dead ringer of my cat - at least to my eyes. The only difference is that my cat isn't shedding as hers is. Were not for my allergy, I would just adopt a cat from the shelter. Cats, humans: each of use is special and all are God's children, regardless of breeding.
>She also fetches like your cat does your socks. She will bring me one of her toys, I throw it, she retrieves it and not just brings in back to the general area of where I am at. She brings it right up to me wanting to play again.<
She sounds just adorable! It's great that your cat likes to fetch. For us humans, it's a lot less work than playing with our cats using a wand toy; and it a good cardiovascular workout for the cats. I have found that it only takes about a couple of days to teach my cat to fetch. After that, she'd come to me with her fetch toy whenever she feels like playing.
Dik
>Well the reason I guesses RB is because my youngest, though certianly >not a pure breed, has a strong breed of 'something' going on, perhaps [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >back to the general area of where I am at. She brings it right up to me >wanting to play again. Sherry - 25 Feb 2004 23:35 GMT >Here is a video to show it: http://members.aol.com/dikfliu/KittyDukakis.AVI > >Dik > >Dik How cute! She must be a real character!
Sherry
---MIKE--- - 26 Feb 2004 00:06 GMT If you want to make canned food more appealing (odor wise) try putting the can in warm water for 15 minutes before serving.
-MIKE
Dik F. Liu - 26 Feb 2004 03:13 GMT >If you want to make canned food more appealing (odor wise) try putting the can in warm water for 15 minutes before serving.<
Good advice, Mike. When my cat first arrived, she refused to eat for the first 1-1/2 day. I finally had to nuke her meal for a few seconds so that it gives off an odor, and she succumbed to the smelly temptation.
The problem? After that, she would only eat her meal after I have it nuked.
Dik
whayface - 26 Feb 2004 03:48 GMT >>My vet told me that if my babies do not want to eat to get the "SMELLY" food >>and it is [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >keep him alive. The *only* thing that got him back to eating on his own was >Fancy Feast. All mine will eat is Sheba and Fancy Feast so that is what they get (Plus Hills Sceince Diet Kitten and Adult mixed half & half)
http://members.aol.com/larrystark/
whayface - 26 Feb 2004 13:50 GMT >>>My vet told me that if my babies do not want to eat to get the "SMELLY" food >>>and it is [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > >http://members.aol.com/larrystark/ Sceince Diet DRY by the way. Forgot to mention that
~*Connie*~ - 22 Feb 2004 12:42 GMT 13cats.com
Hi
Could anyone tell me where I can buy this on the internet. I have been to a few sites, but they don't ship internationally (UK). I was on the actual Fancy Feast website and my cats would love all these different flavours. If anyone can help, I would really appreciate it. Thanks in advance.
Regards Helen Robertson
Helen Robertson - 23 Feb 2004 15:10 GMT Thanks everybody that replied, I am always on the lookout for something different for my cats.
> 13cats.com > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Regards > Helen Robertson
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