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Cat Forum / General Topics / January 2006People who feed other peoples pets
Maybe this sounds a little harsh but don't you think these people should all be shot? It really pisses me off big time. Even if it wasn't someone elses pet and was a stray, you still should not be feeding it. Feeding pets that don't belong to you causes them to stray. Not to mention that half the crap people feed your pets isn't even proper pet food. It's cows milk and raw chicken etc. Has anyone ever discovered that someone else has been feeding your pet? And how did you approach the situation when you found out? Obviously first thoughts that come in your head are a no-no ;) John Per John: >Maybe this sounds a little harsh but don't you think these people >should all be shot? It really pisses me off big time. I assume that the animal is coming to them and not vice-versa... Look at the flip side: instead of feeding - and presumably having some affection for your animal, they could be irritated that your animal is roaming around their property. Our cat roams far and wide. I'm just happy that nobody's bent out of shape (at least I *hope* nobody's bent out of shape...) over it.  SignaturePeteCresswell >Per John: >>Maybe this sounds a little harsh but don't you think these people >>should all be shot? It really pisses me off big time. >I assume that the animal is coming to them and not vice-versa... According to what we have heard from one of our neighbours, another neighbour is feeding chicken to the cats. Not sure if she is letting them in her home and catnapping, but of course if other people are feeding them they are going to go. This is the problem I have they shouldn't be feeding them at all, and definitely not letting them in their homes and not letting them back out. >Look at the flip side: instead of feeding - and presumably having some affection >for your animal, they could be irritated that your animal is roaming around >their property. People in the country I live in are generally very animal friendly. Even those who are not wouldn't deliberately harm any animal, and most wouldn't batter an eyelid about a cat traversing their property on the way somewhere. Also I live in a country without too much in the way of firearms so even in the unlikely event someone was irritated that a cat was crossing their property, they're not likely to pull out a revolver and blast away. At the worst they may scare them off. >Our cat roams far and wide. FANTASTIC! It's good and natural for them. >I'm just happy that nobody's bent out of shape (at >least I *hope* nobody's bent out of shape...) over it. I can't imagine why they would be, but perhaps you are in a different country to me, and I suppose you do get the odd strange people in this world. John > Maybe this sounds a little harsh but don't you think these people > should all be shot? It really pisses me off big time. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > pet? And how did you approach the situation when you found out? > Obviously first thoughts that come in your head are a no-no ;) A lawyer will tell you that when it comes to cats the law is very hazy. That cat you are feeding? As is often the case that cat will turn out to be "owned" by a number of different people none of whom may know anything about the other owners. And to add to the confusion it can go on for the life time of the cat and the other owners may never know about the othe owners. I would also add it may not be obvious that the cat is a stray. And if you put out food you may not seeing who/what cat is eating that food. >> Maybe this sounds a little harsh but don't you think these people >> should all be shot? It really pisses me off big time. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >> pet? And how did you approach the situation when you found out? >> Obviously first thoughts that come in your head are a no-no ;) >A lawyer will tell you that when it comes to cats the law is very hazy. Which law? What country are you in? I'm in the UK, is it the same law? >That cat you are feeding? As is often the case that cat will turn out >to [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >time of the cat and the other owners may never know about the othe >owners. It's completely impossible. It's my sisters cat, she has had him since he was only a few weeks old. He is microchipped in the neck with owner information etc. If anyone has taken him in and lured him indoors they know full well that he is not their cat. And it is also likely they know his name because we did a mass leaflet drop the last time he went awol in the whole neighbourhood (hundred of houses we live in a built up urban area) that the insurance paid for. >I would also add it may not be obvious that the cat is a stray. He refuses to wear a collar so in that sense yes I concur. However I would imagine that every single neighbour in the area knows who he is and that he is not a stray because of our previous mass leaflet drop with his picture on. >And if >you >put out food you may not seeing who/what cat is eating that food. We can't really put food outside at the moment (not that we did that anyway)because of the snow and freezing temperatures, however we would be able to tell which cats are eating it if we did because we have a motion detection IR camera for security. I have been using this a lot to see which cats cross through our property. I have seen a few of the other neighbours cats when I play back the recording but not ours yet. John > >A lawyer will tell you that when it comes to cats the law is very hazy. > > Which law? What country are you in? I'm in the UK, is it the same law? United States. Consult a lawyer in your country. > It's completely impossible. It's my sisters cat, she has had him since > he was only a few weeks old. He is microchipped in the neck with owner > information etc. If anyone has taken him in and lured him indoors > they know full well that he is not their cat. And how do they know that? A stray cat is a stray cat, they don't tell you they are a stray. And then there are incompatible chips..... > And it is also likely > they know his name because we did a mass leaflet drop the last time he > went awol in the whole neighbourhood (hundred of houses we live in a > built up urban area) that the insurance paid for. Maybe, maybe not. I tend to ignore flyers through force of habbit and a persistant alergy to ads of any kind.. > He refuses to wear a collar so in that sense yes I concur. However I > would imagine that every single neighbour in the area knows who he is > and that he is not a stray because of our previous mass leaflet drop > with his picture on. Let me put it this way: we probably have three dozen cats roaming the neighborhood. I'd be hard pressed to identify who owns what cat. > We can't really put food outside at the moment (not that we did that > anyway)because of the snow and freezing temperatures, however we would > be able to tell which cats are eating it if we did because we have a > motion detection IR camera for security. I have been using this a lot > to see which cats cross through our property. I have seen a few of the > other neighbours cats when I play back the recording but not ours yet. Most people won't go to that trouble....they will place food outside, go indoors, and find someone/something ate it. (Maybe it was a cat.) >Maybe this sounds a little harsh but don't you think these people >should all be shot? It really pisses me off big time. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >pet? And how did you approach the situation when you found out? >Obviously first thoughts that come in your head are a no-no ;) My neighbor and I both welcome ferals and strays, and have several resident cats. Most of the strays and some of the resident cats eat at both places (dry cat food, mostly) - it evens out. Their feeding place is more popular in the summer (it's outdoors but sheltered) while mine is more popular in the winter (it's indoors). SignatureT.E.D. (tdavis@gearbox.maem.umr.edu) >>Maybe this sounds a little harsh but don't you think these people >>should all be shot? It really pisses me off big time. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >place is more popular in the summer (it's outdoors but sheltered) >while mine is more popular in the winter (it's indoors). We don't really get that many strays here in the UK. I've never known or heard of any where I live. We are on the whole a nation of animal lovers. In your situation I imagine it is a lot different and it is excellent that you are caring enough to look after strays and ferals. Where are you living? The US or Australia? Here though it is a real pain in the backside when other people feed cats because most of the time it is not proper cat food, even if it was though they shouldn't be doing it anyway as this is one of the reasons they stray in the first place. John >>>Maybe this sounds a little harsh but don't you think these people >>>should all be shot? It really pisses me off big time. [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] >be doing it anyway as this is one of the reasons they stray in the >first place. I live well out into the country in South Central Missouri, USA. Rolla is the nearest town anyone is likely to have heard of (a University of Missouri campus is there) - I live due east of there and due south of St. James. My home is a few km west of the east section of the Mark Twain National Forest in a mixed forest and pasture area. SignatureT.E.D. (tdavis@gearbox.maem.umr.edu) Ted, I do know that area slightly. I did not know you were a strange species though. I will keep that in mind the next time I travel that area. ;-) > >>>Maybe this sounds a little harsh but don't you think these people > >>>should all be shot? It really pisses me off big time. [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > due south of St. James. My home is a few km west of the east section > of the Mark Twain National Forest in a mixed forest and pasture area. >Ted, I do know that area slightly. > >I did not know you were a strange species though. I will keep that in mind >the next time I travel that area. ;-) Use of such things in reply introductions is the sign of a net.idiot or net.newbie - most of them grow out of it. SignatureT.E.D. (tdavis@gearbox.maem.umr.edu) Yeah, I noticed in his response to me he called me a strange species. AT least we know we are not alone! > >Ted, I do know that area slightly. > > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Use of such things in reply introductions is the sign of a net.idiot > or net.newbie - most of them grow out of it. >Yeah, I noticed in his response to me he called me a strange species. AT >least we know we are not alone! Sorry. It just says that when I reply to whoever. I could have called you worse if that's any consolation ;) John >>Yeah, I noticed in his response to me he called me a strange species. AT >>least we know we are not alone! > >Sorry. It just says that when I reply to whoever. I could have called >you worse if that's any consolation ;) Since the text is under your control, it reflects on you. If you are sorry it offends, why not change it to something standard ... and certain to be inoffensive and not to make you look bad? SignatureT.E.D. (tdavis@gearbox.maem.umr.edu) : Maybe this sounds a little harsh but don't you think these people : should all be shot? It really pisses me off big time. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] : : John I hate it when other people feed my pets. I choose a balanced diet and quality food for them. A man once gave my small dog, who has to be on a diet, a large sausage from his grill and was hurt when I didn't approve. Micky, our tom, hardly ate here last summer and still put on weight. So I was pretty sure he got food somewhere else. After I had put a collar on him it stopped. Minka got fed milk somewhere which she *loved*, but she got terrible diarrhoea from it. The same with wet food. It wasn't nice for me having to clean away the stains in the house, on carpet, bed etc. A neighbour likes feeding cats in his garden. Now it has gone so bad for him, that they walk into his house - his fault. carola > I hate it when other people feed my pets. I choose a balanced diet and > quality food for them. Then keep them indoors or on your property. As i've been advised by lawyers once the cat leaves your property they can be fed by anyone else as long as it isn't poison or something like that. Often a cat will have several "owners" each of whom may never know about the others. > A man once gave my small dog, who has to be on a diet, a large sausage from > his grill and was hurt when I didn't approve. And once your pet goes off your property your say in what the pet eats ends. > Micky, our tom, hardly ate here last summer and still put on weight. So I > was pretty sure he got food somewhere else. Often that cat gets food from anywhere from three to six other "owners." The bottom line: keep the cat on your property if you want to control what the cat eats. Your neighbor has every right to feed the cat milk/etc. as long as the don't feed it something poison (antifrreeze, etc.) >> I hate it when other people feed my pets. I choose a balanced diet and >> quality food for them. >Then keep them indoors or on your property. > >As i've been advised by lawyers once the cat leaves your property they >can be fed by anyone else as long as it isn't poison or something like >that. You are lucky you do not live in a state wgere they can be shot if they are wandering of your property then you would not have to worry about someone feeding them !! Just shooting them!! On Wed 28 Dec 2005 12:54:51p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it whayface? >>> I hate it when other people feed my pets. I choose a balanced diet and >>> quality food for them. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > are wandering of your property then you would not have to worry about > someone feeding them !! Just shooting them!! For many reasons, our cats are not allowed outside unless supervised. They get their fresh air and exercise, but they also come to us when called. I'm careful about what food they eat, and they don't get it anywhere but home. SignatureWayne Boatwright *¿* __________________________________________________________________ And if we enter a room full of manure, may we believe in the pony. >>> I hate it when other people feed my pets. I choose a balanced diet and >>> quality food for them. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >your property then you would not have to worry about someone feeding them !! Just >shooting them!! There are states in the US where you are allowed to shoot cats that come on your property??? That's terrible! Which states? And has anyone taken advantage of that law? Could they not be taken to court over that? John >> I hate it when other people feed my pets. I choose a balanced diet and >> quality food for them. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >can be fed by anyone else as long as it isn't poison or something like >that. Maybe in your country, but is that the law in my country? >Often a cat will have several "owners" each of whom may never know >about >the others. Our cat only has one owner. My sister. And he is microchipped in his neck with owner information and address details. >> A man once gave my small dog, who has to be on a diet, a large sausage from >> his grill and was hurt when I didn't approve. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >what the >cat eats. If hypothetically we believed in keeping cats confined to our property, how do you propose we do that? It is completely unfeasible especially where we live. >Your neighbor has every right to feed the cat milk/etc. as >long as >the don't feed it something poison (antifrreeze, etc.) No they don't have every right. They have absolutely no right whatsoever. Perhaps in your country that is what the law says, but does it say that in my country? Even if there was nothing in the law that says they couldn't feed other peoples pets that traversed their property, here in the UK where we live most normal people know that "you do not feed cats that do not belong to you". At least I though most normal people with brains know this general, what I believe to be unwritten rule. John : >Often a cat will have several "owners" each of whom may never know : >about : >the others. : : Our cat only has one owner. My sister. And he is microchipped in his : neck with owner information and address details. But can you spot the microchip from outside? Not really, or am I wrong? carola > : Our cat only has one owner. My sister. And he is microchipped in his > : neck with owner information and address details. > > But can you spot the microchip from outside? Not really, or am I wrong? My understanding is you can't spot them from outside. You need a scanner to detect them, there are a number of scanners out on the market none of which are compatible. > : Our cat only has one owner. My sister. And he is microchipped in his > : neck with owner information and address details. > > But can you spot the microchip from outside? Not really, or am I wrong? > > carola Yeah, you can't see it. Really the point of it is that if the cat is taken to a shelter or pound they can scan him or her and return them to the owner. > Yeah, you can't see it. Really the point of it is that if the cat is taken > to a shelter or pound they can scan him or her and return them to the owner. And my understanding is seven times out of eight a shelter can't read the microchip, that there are eight different standards none of which are compatiable. As an engineer I find that absolutely unacceptable. > And my understanding is seven times out of eight a shelter can't read > the microchip, > that there are eight different standards none of which are compatiable. > > As an engineer I find that absolutely unacceptable. Actually I don't think it's as bad as that - I believe there are only 3. AVID uses 125 KHz chips that are encoded. HomeAgain uses 125 KHz chips that are not encoded (used to be pretty much the standard configuration - AVID only started encrypting somewhat recently). Banfield had been selling both AVID and the unencrypted 125 KHz chips but in the last year or so began selling only the European standard 132.5 KHz chip. AVID's readers can read their chips and standard 125 KHz chips, but not 132.5 KHz chips. Banfield's readers can read only Banfield chips. And you're right - there's no excuse for this. I'd personally like to see Avid either stop encrypting or publish specs on how to read their chips, and I would hope that newly manufactured scanners would be able to read both 125 and 132.5 KHz parts. : > I hate it when other people feed my pets. I choose a balanced diet and : > quality food for them. : Then keep them indoors or on your property. You have absolutely no idea what my living situation is like. In the country where I live shelters don't even give you a cat if it cannot be let outdoors ... : As i've been advised by lawyers once the cat leaves your property they : can be fed by anyone else as long as it isn't poison or something like : that. Don't forget that this is an international newsgroup. Here it's forbidden! It's also forbidden to leave a cat behind when you move. If you hit a cat with your car you have to pay for it. This is silly though, the drivers are tempted to drive off and leave the cat to itself. : > A man once gave my small dog, who has to be on a diet, a large sausage from : > his grill and was hurt when I didn't approve. : And once your pet goes off your property your say in what the pet eats : ends. The dog was on the leash!!! And my property is fenced in, it cannot go away. : The bottom line: keep the cat on your property if you want to control : what the : cat eats. Your neighbor has every right to feed the cat milk/etc. as : long as : the don't feed it something poison (antifrreeze, etc.) No, he hasn't, see above. Here pets are considered things and properties! carola > : Then keep them indoors or on your property. > > You have absolutely no idea what my living situation is like. > In the country where I live shelters don't even give you a cat if it cannot > be let outdoors ... Let me put it this way: i don't make the laws. I just try to follow them. This is in the United States. > Don't forget that this is an international newsgroup. Here it's forbidden! > It's also forbidden to leave a cat behind when you move. > If you hit a cat with your car you have to pay for it. This is silly though, > the drivers are tempted to drive off and leave the cat to itself. As always consult a lawyer in your country. Here in the United States cats are considered property. That is very slowly changing but it still remains that the cat is property and around here once the cat leaves your property all bets are off. Don't like the laws? Call your congress person. : > : Then keep them indoors or on your property. : > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] : : Don't like the laws? Call your congress person. I do like the laws, but not the way you just assume that what you believe is the same all over the rest of the world! > I do like the laws, but not the way you just assume that what you believe is > the same all over the rest of the world! Go back and reread my posts. I never said the laws are the same around the world. I said what the laws are here, that you should consult a lawyer in your area. I mentioned a number of times that a lawyer should be consulted. : > I do like the laws, but not the way you just assume that what you believe is : > the same all over the rest of the world! [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] : : I mentioned a number of times that a lawyer should be consulted. What for if I have no problem with the law? carola > I do like the laws, but not the way you just assume that what you believe > is > the same all over the rest of the world! We have some strange rules here in the states too. Some shelters won't give you a cat if you don't promise to keep it INdoors. One place I called they asked if I had ever given a cat away and I said yes and they said "we don't adopt out a cat to anyone who has given a cat away. Wouldn't even let me give an explanation as to the situation or the fact that I gave her to a loving home and I miss her every day. I just tell them what they want to hear and then you can adopt the cat. Nobody is going to be stalking you making sure you follow all the rules. >: Maybe this sounds a little harsh but don't you think these people >: should all be shot? It really pisses me off big time. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >I hate it when other people feed my pets. I choose a balanced diet and >quality food for them. Exactly ;) >A man once gave my small dog, who has to be on a diet, a large sausage from >his grill and was hurt when I didn't approve. Some neighbours are well intentioned enough, but they just don't use their brains. >Micky, our tom, hardly ate here last summer and still put on weight. So I >was pretty sure he got food somewhere else. >After I had put a collar on him it stopped. That is something my younger sister and I are going to suggest to her when she is back from holiday. He won't like it but if it prevents neighbours catnapping him then maybe we would give it a try? I'm still undecided on the whole collar thing though. Can't the cats become tangled in tree branches wearing a collar? I'm sure I have heard of cats hanging to death after their collar got stuck on tree branches etc. Perhaps when they make these tracking collars a lot thinner and lighter you never know. He might have one whether he likes it or not. Then we'll be able to see which neighbour is keeping him captive and give them a piece of our minds. >Minka got fed milk somewhere which she *loved*, but she got terrible >diarrhoea from it. The same with wet food. >It wasn't nice for me having to clean away the stains in the house, on >carpet, bed etc. They need proper cat food that has all the vitamins in etc. >A neighbour likes feeding cats in his garden. Now it has gone so bad for >him, that they walk into his house - his fault. It's neighbours like that I am talking about and think should be shot or something. I watched a TV series a while back called "Life of grime". It goes around lots of different cities I believe and looks at what life is like for people there. One lady in New York was living in an absolute hovel and had been taking in lots of stray cats and other people cats that didn't belong to her. It all started years ago when she simply started feeding one cat on her fire escape or balcony. All the cats started frequenting and living in her apartment. Then the obvious happens they start breeding and having kittens, equals more and more cats until they are taking over and it is a feline apartment not a human one. It was absolutely disgusting, it made you want to throw up. People like this should really be locked up. When the animal people came to sort the situation out there were probably 300+ cats in there. John : >Micky, our tom, hardly ate here last summer and still put on weight. So I : >was pretty sure he got food somewhere else. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] : cats hanging to death after their collar got stuck on tree branches : etc. You can buy a cheap flea collar with elastic. If it's lost - hard luck, if not - then the fleas are kept away too. : >A neighbour likes feeding cats in his garden. Now it has gone so bad for : >him, that they walk into his house - his fault. : : It's neighbours like that I am talking about and think should be shot : or something. Well, he's a nice neighbour all the same ;-) carola > : It's neighbours like that I am talking about and think should be shot > : or something. > > Well, he's a nice neighbour all the same ;-) I agree I mean sheesh my neighbor IMMEDIATELY calls the animal police if I let my cat out. Then another neighbor hisses and chases him away (yes I've seen the a.shole do it.) I've had to make my cat an indoor cat because of these a.sholes. > Maybe this sounds a little harsh but don't you think these people > should all be shot? It really pisses me off big time. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > John It's a foregone conclusion. Cats are predatorial animals who use food as their motivating force,..that's providing they are friendly enough to accept someone elses food. In practise however, they usually wont look for food at some-one else's house if they are fed sufficiently at home. The only cats which have settled in to our place for feeds have been in less than good condition. Most of the others, just visit to harrass over territory. I was once asked to not keep giving our Sunday baked dinner leftover meat bones to a neighbour's dog. He was a Rotty from memory, and loved to gnaw these bones. I respected the neighbour's wishes, and did feel a little hurt at the time. Jason > I was once asked to not keep giving our Sunday baked dinner leftover meat > bones to a neighbour's dog. He was a Rotty from memory, and loved to gnaw > these bones. I respected the neighbour's wishes, and did feel a little hurt > at the time. But the point to keep in mind, as i've been told by lawyers, is dog law is much more straight forward than cat law. A dog will have one clear owner, ofthen with a license issued by the city. A cat on the other hand sometimes will have a number of different owners, none of whom know about each other.. If your cat disapears one day one of those "owners" may have moved to another city and taken "his" cat with him. We have a stray that comes to our house regularly and we know that she was left behind by the people who were suppose to be her owners. They left her and two others cats when they moved. One definitely was adopted by another neighbor and the other seems to have a regular home. This one though seemed to be left on her own. It took two years before she would let us pet her but she has eaten here regularly for most of those two years. If we feed her and she doesn't eat all of it and someone else's cat comes along and eats the leftovers then I can't help that. Remember also that I don't grab those other cats and make them eat. If they are hungry they help themselves. > > I was once asked to not keep giving our Sunday baked dinner leftover meat > > bones to a neighbour's dog. He was a Rotty from memory, and loved to gnaw [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > If your cat disapears one day one of those "owners" may have moved > to another city and taken "his" cat with him. >We have a stray that comes to our house regularly and we know that she was >left behind by the people who were suppose to be her owners. They left her [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >If we feed her and she doesn't eat all of it and someone else's cat comes >along and eats the leftovers then I can't help that. Don't you feed your cat indoors? I thought most cat owners did? Why would you want to feed them outside it makes no sense? They could get maggots, worms or anything from bugs getting at their food before they eat it. >Remember also that I don't grab those other cats and make them eat. If they >are hungry they help themselves. Without wanting to offend you I believe It is irresponsible to do this and to leave food outside for other cats to get at, it can cause those cats to stray and always come to your home to take the food. They may even wait until you put it out and then take the food instead of your cat getting it. John Two of our cats are fed indoors. The stray I was referrencing seems to stay in our yard but it somewhat wild. We put out food when she comes. We try to put out just enough for her to eat at that time. Sometimes she leaves some and I don't know if she finishes it or if another animal gets at it. We never put out food and just leave it. We have been gone for about 36 hours, and left plenty of food and water for our indoor cats, but poor Nora, which is what we call her had to wait until we got back and she ate everything we put out. > >We have a stray that comes to our house regularly and we know that she was > >left behind by the people who were suppose to be her owners. They left her [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > John > We have a stray that comes to our house regularly and we know that she was > left behind by the people who were suppose to be her owners. They left her > and two others cats when they moved. Sadly a number of pets are left behind when people move. > Remember also that I don't grab those other cats and make them eat. If they > are hungry they help themselves. BTW, I would point out if a cat is eating it doesn't necessarily follow that someone is feeding them. A hungry will attempt to find food, be it a bird, food in the trash, etc. >> I was once asked to not keep giving our Sunday baked dinner leftover meat >> bones to a neighbour's dog. He was a Rotty from memory, and loved to gnaw >> these bones. I respected the neighbour's wishes, and did feel a little hurt >> at the time. >But the point to keep in mind, as i've been told by lawyers, is dog law >is much >more straight forward than cat law. A dog will have one clear owner, >ofthen Which dog law? Which cat law? ;) United States laws? There are other countries too you know? And people other than Americans frequent the cats newsgroup ;) >with a license issued by the city. A cat on the other hand sometimes >will >have a number of different owners, none of whom know about each other.. > >If your cat disapears one day one of those "owners" may have moved >to another city and taken "his" cat with him. I believe that here in the UK there is some talk of having passports for cats as well as dogs (yes dogs have passports!). Our cat is microchipped with owner and address information. If anyone stole him, any Vet, animal welfare officer or Police officer with the right equipment should be able to scan for the details. John : > I was once asked to not keep giving our Sunday baked dinner leftover meat : > bones to a neighbour's dog. He was a Rotty from memory, and loved to gnaw : > these bones. I respected the neighbour's wishes, and did feel a little hurt : > at the time. Bones can splinter, cut through the stomach and kill the dog, you know. carola > : > I was once asked to not keep giving our Sunday baked dinner leftover > meat [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > carola I had no idea that was a potential problem. I guess cooked bones are more susceptible to this than raw? Jason >> Bones can splinter, cut through the stomach and kill the dog, you know. >> carola [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Jason Yes, exactly. >> Maybe this sounds a little harsh but don't you think these people >> should all be shot? It really pisses me off big time. [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >In practise however, they usually wont look for food at some-one else's >house if they are fed sufficiently at home. Our cat is extremely well fed and looked after believe me. He is pretty big for an almost three year old, and has a choice of dry or wet food each day (he likes both) and eats tonnes of it. It may be the fact that the person feeding other peoples cats is giving them chicken etc and human food not cat food which is not good. >The only cats which have settled >in to our place for feeds have been in less than good condition. Most of the >others, just visit to harrass over territory. If they have been in less than good condition they are probably genuine strays and its good of you to help them. I think you are in Australia right? So it is completely different from the UK as far as the society and pets are concerned. You have a lot of Strays and Feral cats down under, and a lot of people consider them a nuisance and a threat to the indigenous wildlife. Here in the UK it is completely different, we don't really have that much in the way of strays, and generally it is a nation of animal lovers where everyone likes pets. John > >> Maybe this sounds a little harsh but don't you think these people > >> should all be shot? It really pisses me off big time. [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > > John Sheesh,...John,...do I sense a bit of anti-colonialism there :-). I'm sure on the scale of "animal lovers" we score similar to the mother -country ;-) Jason >> If they have been in less than good condition they are probably >> genuine strays and its good of you to help them. I think you are in [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >Sheesh,...John,...do I sense a bit of anti-colonialism there :-). I'm sure >on the scale of "animal lovers" we score similar to the mother -country ;-) No not at all mate. I was just pointing out the differences between societies and the laws and relationships as far as cats go. I like Australia and the United States a lot. I've been all over the Eastern seaboard of the US (Miami right up to Niagara and into Canada), and have ventured down under twice, the eastern seaboard again between Sydney and Noosa, and also Melbourne and the South. I think one or two of our American friends in the group don't seem to realise that other countries exist, or that things maybe completely different elsewhere as far as cats are concerned. Wasn't having a dig at Australians for being anti-cat or anything, just noting the differences. John > >> If they have been in less than good condition they are probably > >> genuine strays and its good of you to help them. I think you are in [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > John No problems,..just got things a bit out of context. Jason >Maybe this sounds a little harsh but don't you think these people >should all be shot? It really pisses me off big time. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > >John I think this is how my cat developed a taste for egg salad and scalloped potatoes. mort |
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