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Cat still tearing its fur out even after flea eradication

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AL D - 05 Dec 2005 11:23 GMT
Hello,
Even after regular flea-shampooing and the use of a flea collar, and
long after any fleas have been seen, my cat is still leaving tufts of
fur around and I can see some almost bald patches where he has been
chewing his fur off on his sides and back. He has even romoved skin in
small patches. What can be the cause of this? How do I treat it?

Thank you.

Al D
Wayne Boatwright - 05 Dec 2005 13:10 GMT
On Mon 05 Dec 2005 04:26:33a, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it AL D?

> Hello,
> Even after regular flea-shampooing and the use of a flea collar, and
> long after any fleas have been seen, my cat is still leaving tufts of
> fur around and I can see some almost bald patches where he has been
> chewing his fur off on his sides and back. He has even romoved skin in
> small patches. What can be the cause of this? How do I treat it?

Dry skin perhaps.  You might try a non-detergent shampoo witha colloidal
suspension of oatmeal.  This is very soothing for dry, itchy skin.  "Human"
shampoos of that particular type would be perfectly safe for cats.

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CadillacWoman - 05 Dec 2005 13:22 GMT
In addtion to a gentle shampoo, brushing him with a soft brush might
stimulate the natural oils in his skin.
5cats - 05 Dec 2005 14:02 GMT
> Hello,
> Even after regular flea-shampooing and the use of a flea collar, and
> long after any fleas have been seen, my cat is still leaving tufts of
> fur around and I can see some almost bald patches where he has been
> chewing his fur off on his sides and back. He has even romoved skin in
> small patches. What can be the cause of this? How do I treat it?

It could be a allergy to something other than fleas.  It's a tough thing to
track down, I have a cat going through something a bit similar. Some days I
think she's just a bit OCD, starts to groom and forgets to stop.

Fish oil (Omega-3 EFAs) supplements are said to help dry skin and sometimes
allergy.
AL D - 05 Dec 2005 17:13 GMT
>>AL D wrote:
>>
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>>Fish oil (Omega-3 EFAs) supplements are said to help dry skin and sometimes
>>allergy.

Thank you all for the suggestions. I'm already giving him conditioning
tablets (i.e., vitamin pills for cats) which make his for beautiully
soft (presumably due to natural oils) but it dosn't seem to be
helping. I will try the fish oil suggestion and the dry-skin shampoo
idea next. I think it's probably an allergy because that's what a vet
said when he had something like this a few years ago. (I had forgotten
about that when I posted my message). Unfortunately, the vet didn't
have any useful suggestions about how to deal with the allergy, bar
vinding out what's causing it (and that is anyone's guess).

Al D
LMadigan@hhnt.nhs.uk - 07 Dec 2005 13:39 GMT
> Fish oil (Omega-3 EFAs) supplements are said to help dry skin and sometimes
> allergy

But avoid cod liver oil. A friend of mine used to give her cat one cod
liver oil capsule a day to keep the coat healthy and yes the cat had a
magnificent coat but cod liver can cause other health problems due to
Vitamin A excess

Lesley

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CatDude - 05 Dec 2005 18:55 GMT
> Even after regular flea-shampooing and the use of a flea collar, and
> long after any fleas have been seen, my cat is still leaving tufts of
> fur around and I can see some almost bald patches where he has been
> chewing his fur off on his sides and back. He has even romoved skin in
> small patches. What can be the cause of this? How do I treat it?

Have you changed the detergent you use to wash whatever surface the cat
sleeps on? Or used a different brand of carpet cleaner, or floor wax, or
any other surface the kitty comes in contact with?
carola - 05 Dec 2005 19:07 GMT
:> Even after regular flea-shampooing and the use of a flea collar, and
: > long after any fleas have been seen, my cat is still leaving tufts of
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
: sleeps on? Or used a different brand of carpet cleaner, or floor wax, or
: any other surface the kitty comes in contact with?

How did it go away the last time?

carola
AL D - 05 Dec 2005 19:14 GMT
>>> Even after regular flea-shampooing and the use of a flea collar, and
>>> long after any fleas have been seen, my cat is still leaving tufts of
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>>sleeps on? Or used a different brand of carpet cleaner, or floor wax, or
>>any other surface the kitty comes in contact with?

He sleeps in a different place almost each day, sometimes on a sofa,
sometimes on the carpet, sometimes on a bed. Most of these seem pretty
clean. The carpet is probably the main suspect as far as allergens go.
He always spends at least some time sitting on one of the carpets
somewhere.

Al D
CatDude - 05 Dec 2005 20:24 GMT
> He sleeps in a different place almost each day, sometimes on a sofa,
> sometimes on the carpet, sometimes on a bed. Most of these seem pretty
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Al D

Same with my cats. Some of them sleep a few hours every day on the bed,
some sleep most of the day on the sofa, most of them curl up occasionally
on the carpet.

Changing the detergent you use to wash bedding could cause an allergic
reaction, as could a change in how you care for the the sofa, carpet, etc.
Starting to use Febreze, or changing to a different carpet cleaner, or
changing the cat's food - any of those could lead to an allergic reaction.
Al D - 05 Dec 2005 23:35 GMT
>>> He sleeps in a different place almost each day, sometimes on a sofa,
>>> sometimes on the carpet, sometimes on a bed. Most of these seem pretty
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>>Starting to use Febreze, or changing to a different carpet cleaner, or
>>changing the cat's food - any of those could lead to an allergic reaction.

I see. That's interesting... I'll have to give that some thought.
Many thanks for your input.

Al D
Ted Davis - 06 Dec 2005 01:00 GMT
>Hello,
>Even after regular flea-shampooing and the use of a flea collar, and
>long after any fleas have been seen, my cat is still leaving tufts of
>fur around and I can see some almost bald patches where he has been
>chewing his fur off on his sides and back. He has even romoved skin in
>small patches. What can be the cause of this? How do I treat it?

Those approaches to flea control are far from good enough for a cat
with a flea bite allergy.  My Spooky has such an allergy, and until I
discovered Frontline, he never went for long without the torment.
Frontline and Advantage - anything, really, that actually works is
expensive, but the cost - at least for Frontline - can be reduced by
buying the largest reasonable dog size and metering the 0.5 ml/cc dose
with a syringe or dropper.  There are eight cat doses of Frontline in
each dispenser of the largest dog size.  You can also save money by
buying from one of the Australian companies like www.deadfleaz.com and
www.petshack.com, but watch the shipping charges.

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AL D - 06 Dec 2005 13:51 GMT
>>>Hello,
>>>Even after regular flea-shampooing and the use of a flea collar, and
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>>buying from one of the Australian companies like www.deadfleaz.com and
>>www.petshack.com, but watch the shipping charges.

Many thanks for the tip. I have placed an order for some.

AL D
Leanne - 06 Dec 2005 16:23 GMT
We have been using the Frontline Plus for about a year and have
three more doses from the package for 44-88 lb dogs. The vet
gave us a syringe and we open one of the dispensers and draw it
all into the syringe and cap it off. That gives you doses for 5
months at the 0.5 ml/cc dose

Leanne

> >>>Hello,
> >>>Even after regular flea-shampooing and the use of a flea collar, and
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>
> AL D
Ted Davis - 06 Dec 2005 21:31 GMT
>We have been using the Frontline Plus for about a year and have
>three more doses from the package for 44-88 lb dogs. The vet
>gave us a syringe and we open one of the dispensers and draw it
>all into the syringe and cap it off. That gives you doses for 5
>months at the 0.5 ml/cc dose

I use syringes for all manner of things, including dosing cats with
liquid and paste oral medicines, and oiling machinery, so I buy them
in bulk from a surplus dealer.  They are usually the kind with a Leur
Lock fitting which covers most of the nipple (the basic Luer fitting),
so I cut the end off the fitting cover and use that to provide the
necessary clearance for getting into the fur.

It should be noted that we are talking about plain syringes, not
syringes with needles.

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AL D - 06 Dec 2005 21:32 GMT
>>We have been using the Frontline Plus for about a year and have
>>three more doses from the package for 44-88 lb dogs. The vet
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>>
>>Leanne

That's a great Idea. I may do that if I find this stuff works for my
cat with no ill-effects. This time I just purchased a 6-dose cat
package, since it was only about 20 UK pounds. (AU$31)

Actually I can probably get two doses out of one of those cat doses,
since my cat is quite small and slim..

Al D
carola - 07 Dec 2005 05:45 GMT
: Actually I can probably get two doses out of one of those cat doses,
: since my cat is quite small and slim..
:
: Al D

That's what I do with flea meds and also with worming tablets:
buy the size for cats over 5kg and split it in half for my two under 4kg
cats.
It works well and I save 50%.

carola
jdc1 - 09 Dec 2005 08:27 GMT
>>>We have been using the Frontline Plus for about a year and have
>>>three more doses from the package for 44-88 lb dogs. The vet
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
> Al D

Flea bite allergies can affect a cat long after you've applied Frontline/Advantage.
My cat still has some attacks to her fur outta frustration. I caught the flea season too
late last summer.

Her frustration attacks are diminishing somewhat now...2 months later.  It's a skin
alergy from flea bites that can last for months after the fleas are gone.
Al D - 10 Dec 2005 15:02 GMT
>>AL D wrote:
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
>>Her frustration attacks are diminishing somewhat now...2 months later.  It's a skin
>>alergy from flea bites that can last for months after the fleas are gone.

Hi Leanne,
That's very useful to know. I was beginning to doubt that the itching
could be caused by fleas since I am very sue that I've eradicated
them, all. but what you just said would explain it.

I'll be so glad when he stops chewing his fur off. His fur is so thin
now, during a season when it should be extra thick.

Al D
-L. - 09 Dec 2005 09:40 GMT
> Hello,
> Even after regular flea-shampooing and the use of a flea collar, and
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> Al D

It is likely that his skin is irritated by the flea shampoo and flea
collar on top of having a flea allergy.  Get rid of the collar and do
not bathe him with anything except soothing or medicated shampoo
recommended by your vet or groomer (especially if he has open sores).
Allergroom and Epi-Soothe are two products I have recomm  Keep us
posted.

-L.
-L. - 09 Dec 2005 09:42 GMT
> Hello,
> Even after regular flea-shampooing and the use of a flea collar, and
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> Al D

It is likely that his skin is irritated by the flea shampoo and flea
collar on top of having a flea allergy.  Get rid of the collar and do
not bathe him with anything except soothing or medicated shampoo
recommended by your vet or groomer (especially if he has open sores).
Allergroom and Epi-Soothe are two products I have recommended in the
past.  use Frontline or Advantage spot treatment to get rid of the
fleas (and nothing else).  I suspect your kitty will be feeling better
in a week or so.  Keep us posted.
-L.
 
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