HOWEDY kevin,

The Amazing Puppy Wizard JUST SEZ "NO!" to drugs:

HOWEDY jeff,

THAT'S HOWE COME The Amazing Puppy Wizard is BEGGIN
alt.religion.kibology to enter the dog trainin discussions:

   BWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAHAHAHHAHHAAAA!!!

You punk thug coward mental cases can't even train your
own dogs DESPITE your pronged spiked pinch choke and shock
collars. REMEMBER jeff, you freakin halfwit?

Isn't that the same Jeff Dege who can't train
his own dog not to attack innocent defenseless
dumb critters despite his shock collar and
perfect come command?:

From: Jeff Dege <j...@jdege.visi.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 21:58:22 -0500
Subject: Re: Squirrell chasing / Prey drive !!!!

On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 19:06:57 -0400, buzzsaw wrote:

Won't make any difference.

I've been using an e-collar with my JRT, and it's
worked wonders for his recall.  But the one time
he bolted after something small and furry, he paid
no attention to the collar until after he'd brought
it to bay.

Jeff Dege.

BWEEEEEEEEEEEAAAHAHAHAHHAHAAA!!!

HOWEDY Borzoi,

Borzoi wrote:

INDEEDY.

THAT'S HOWE COME The Amazing Puppy Wizard is callin
on alt.religion.kibology to HEELP SAVE US!

For SHORE!~

               Here's something your mumzie would like:
               Here's some excerpts from our force fetch
               page on k9web your pal cindy "don't let the dog
               SCREAM" mooreon threatened to sue us for
               infringement for discussing. I'm looking forward
               to having her demonstrate these advanced
               techniques in front of a criminal judge and jury
               for felony animal abuse.

               "Another excellent and more recent resource is
               the Tritronics Retrieving Manual Retriever
               Training by Jim and Phyllis Dobbs and Alice
               Woodyard, which despite its association with
               the Tritronics electronic collars has many excellent
               descriptions of training techniques that do not use
               the collar, including an overview of what they also
term
               the "conditioned retrieve." (This is not a promotion or
               condemnation of electronic collars; merely a note that
               the Retriever Training book is useful for the person
               without an electronic collar as well.)

               THE FORCE FETCH

               Alright! Now you are (finally) ready to force
               fetch your dog. I repeat, you want to have an
               experienced person help you out, someone
               who has already force fetched her own dogs
               whether for obedience or field.

              This step in the training entails what is termed
               avoidance behavior. In a nutshell, the dog is
               taught how to "turn off" a negative stimulus.
               He is carefully taught that he has complete
               control over it.

               This is a very effective way of teaching, but
               does require a more astute sense of timing
               than some other training methods and is very
               difficult for some people to do, for a variety of
               reasons.

               However, if the dog properly knows HOLD at
               this point, it's easily done with a minimum of
               fuss.

               Return to your quiet starting place, with the
               dog on a collar and leash in front of you,
               sitting quietly. Instead of opening his mouth
               as you have been for the HOLD, put your hand
               through the dog's collar (to hold
               him steady) and with your thumb and forefinger
               pinch the tip of his ears and say TAKE IT (or
               FETCH, or whatever you want)

               Watch his mouth closely -- the moment he
               opens his mouth, pop that dumbbell in, let go
               of his ear but not the collar, and PRAISE
               PRAISE PRAISE.

               Do this three or four times per session.

               When he is opening his mouth in anticipation
               of the dumbbell, the next step is to hold the
               dumbbell just past his lips. This next step is
               for him to move his head forward that inch (or
               half inch) necessary to get the dumbbell. At
               this point, he has a pretty good notion that
               getting that darned thing into his
               mouth is the way to turn off the ear pinch.

               Most dogs will lean forward and get it. That's
               his second milestone! Praise, praise, praise
               and repeat three or four times this session.
               Remember, I said these sessions were no
               more than 5 minutes or so each. That's still
               true.

               Gradually extend the distance so he has to
               reach further to get it. Now here is where a
               few subtleties come into play. It's not enough
               for him to merely reach out and grab it. You
               want him to commit to getting it. You want him
               to be intent on getting it. If he sort of
               limply reaches over and gets it, that's
               not what you want. If you pinch him but have
               to drag him toward the dumbbell, that's not
               what you want either. We're back to the
               visualization. What do you want him to do?

               You  want him to, if necessary, bust
               through just about anything to get that
               dumbbell. So hold on to that collar until you
               feel him pulling out of it to get that. That's
               his commitment.

               You want to say TAKE IT and
               have him just about explode out to get
               the dumbbell. As you get further along in
               this, you will release him when he's made a
               good commitment -- this will help shape a
               speedy response nicely.

               I think you can see why it helps to have an
               experienced person around when you are
               doing this!

               It can be difficult to keep all these
               things in mind when you are actually
               sitting there with a dog in your hands.

               About the ear pinch: You must keep the
               pressure up until the instant he has the
               dumbbell securely in his mouth. Many people
               have problems getting the pinch
               right, either they do not pinch enough, or
               they have a very stoic dog in which case case
               a collar may be needed to help make the pinch
               more effective.

               Also some dogs are screamers,
               and if they find that they can stop the
               pinching by screaming, they've learned
               the avoidance technique just fine -- but not
               with the behavior you had in mind!

               Don't let your dog scream. Use your hand to
               hold his muzzle closed and tell him to quit
               moaning. Some dogs will collapse into a heap.
               Don't let them do that, that's why your hand
               is in the collar.

              Hold them up and get them back into a sitting
              position.

               What your dog is doing is trying to find other
               ways of avoiding the ear pinch.

              You need to be firm and consistent and
               demonstrate that getting the dumbbell is the
               only means of avoidance.

               Remember to keep him under control. When
               he gets that dumbbell in his mouth, pull him
               gently around back to you and sit him back
               down. You may in fact want to sit him at your
               side in the heel position (whether or not he
               actually knows the heel position), hold the
               dumbbell in front of him, command him
               to take it and then pull him back to a front
               or finish position as you wish. The pattern
               will do him good later.

               The next major milestone is putting the
               dumbbell on the ground for him to pick up. For
               many dogs this can be a big deal and may be
               difficult. Set the dumbbell on the ground just
               in front of them, with your hand on
               the dumbbell.

               He may not reach for it, he may
               refuse -- keep up the ear pressure until he
               finally picks it up. If he really doesn't seem
               to understand this, then break this down into
               an intermediate step where you
               hold the dumbbell, but about 1/2 way between
               the ground and his mouth.

               Once he's picked the dumbbell off the ground,
               that's a major milestone and you are just
               about home free.

               As before slowly place the dumbbell further
               away on the ground in front of him. Make sure
               he is pulling out of your hold on the collar
               before you let him pick the dumbbell up. If he
               drops the dumbbell from this point on, you
               will  get control of him (put him in a
               sit with a firm hold on his collar) and pinch
               him back to the dumbbell -- he can pick it up
               now so there is no need for you to put it in
               his mouth any more. HE is the one responsible
               for getting it.

               When he is reliably picking up the dumbbell a
               few feet from you, then you can stop using the
               pinch at the beginning of the exercise.

               You will instead reserve it for when he drops
               the dumbbell or refuses to pick it up, etc. So
               for example, you might go out, place the
               dumbbell 6 feet away, put the long lead on
               him, tell him to take it.

               Let's say he hesitates and doesn't go out.
               Then you pinch, force him to commit, send
               him to the dumbbell. Let's say he goes and
               gets it, but starts playing with it. Pull him in,
               and if he hasn't already dropped the dumbbell,
               take it out of his mouth, put it back where it
               was, and pinch him to it.

               There is one last problem you need to watch
               for. Many dogs, especially retrievers, will
               start pouncing on the dumbbell once they are
               able to run out a few steps to it before
               picking it up.

               So transition to this point with a long cotton
               lead about 20-30 feet long. With this you can
               spin him round the moment he scoops up the
               dumbbell, teaching him that he cannot play
               with it.

              If your dog drops the dumbbell, use the lead
              to pull him back to you (do not let him try to
              pick it up), and pinch him back to it. the
              basic rule of thumb is that if he drops it, he
              will be pinched back to it regardless.

               Thoughts to Consider

               Force fetching is never completely done, per
               se (as with any exercise taught to a dog). You
               may need to do a refresher course when it's
               something new to pick up, or if it's something
               disgusting (like a very dead bird) to pick up.

               He may also start to get lazy,
               you need to keep an eye on him. You may also
               realize you omitted some step in training him
               that shows up later so you will have to go
               back and fix it.

               But you should also take care to make sure he
               doesn't forget any of these hard-earned
               lessons! Make him carry things for you. He can
               carry his own ball out to the park. He can
               carry his own utility articles to the
               ring. He can help you carry a light bag of
               groceries into the house. He can help you
               carry firewood. They will just love this, and
               it's a good way to keep the talents honed. Use
               it!" cindy title moore.

     And THAT'S HOWE COME sindy SADIST
     MOOREON doesbn't post here abHOWETS
     noMOORE.

The Amazing Puppy Wizard. <{} ; ~ )   >

HOWEDY chris,

Chris McGonnell wrote:

Thank you for responding. The heelth of the WHOWEL WILD WORLD
DEPENDS on alt.religion.kibology to SAVE US from the needle.

INDEEDY. You'll find the rest of the video evidence here:
http://fredhassen.neptune.com #11, fred and tim. Jerry
Howe is playin the part of fred. tim plays tim, and terri
willis plays Santos the dog bein BEATEN.

You'll also find Jerry Howe choking shocking and beating dogs on the
rest of the useless video evidence at http://fredhassen.neptune.com
and www.remotedogtraining.com

SHAMEFOOL, AIN'T IT:

 Psychoclown terri willis wrote:
 Nope. That "beating dogs with sticks" things is
 something you twisted out of context, because you
 are full of bizarro manure.

Amy lyingfrosty dahl (oakhill kennels) LIES with a
straight face and says:

"I don't beat dogs, twist ears, or pinch toes. For the
benefit of anyone who is in doubt, and who chooses
not to read the article (SHE'D REALLY LIKE IT IF YOU
DON'T READ IT!), there is NO mention in it of "twisting
ears (INDEED, SHE PINCHES THEM WITH SPIKES).

I would never slap a dog (SHE TEACHES PEOPLE TO
BEAT DOGS WITH STICKS TO MOTIVATE THEM).

I would never advise anyone to slap a dog (SHE'S A
PROVEN LIAR AND DOG ABUSER, do you expect
her to ADMIT THE TRUTH???).

I do not believe there is a single circumstance, ever,
where slapping a dog is anything but destructive."

RIGHT. She PINCHES, not twists... and chin cuff
doesn't mean hit, it means chuck.  amy lyingfrosty dahl
continues:

"Get a stick 30- or 40-inches long. You can have a
helper wield the stick, or do it yourself. Tougher, less
tractable dogs may require you to progress to striking
them more sharply.

With your hand on the collar and ear, say, 'fetch.'

Immediately tap the dog on the hindquarters with the
stick. Repeat "fetch" and pinch the ear all the way to
the dummy.

Repeat, varying how hard you hit the dog,

Now you are ready to progress to what most people think of
as force-fetching: the ear pinch.

Make the dog's need to stop the pinching so urgent
that resisting your will fades in importance.

but will squeal, thrash around, and direct their
efforts to escaping the ear pinch

You can press the dog's ear with a shotshell instead
of your thumb;

even get a studded collar and pinch the ear against
that

Say "fetch" while pressing the dummy against its lips
and pinching its ear.

if the dog still does not open its mouth, get out the
shotshell.

Try pinching the ear between the metal casing and
the collar, even the buckle on the collar. Persist!
Eventually, the dog will give in"

We was just talkin abHOWET HOWE COME the POLICE SAR
dogs WOULDN'T FIND them three DEAD children in the trunk
of the car in Trenton, N.J. and WOULDN'T FIND Jessica Lundren
300' from her HOWES and WOULDN'T FIND Elizabeth Smart, ALL
with KNOWN STARTING POINTS, ALL EZ SIMPLE TRACKS for
ANY backyard bred untrained dog, ALL mishandled by POLICE
and SAR trainers using bribery shocking and choking.

That's been tried. Didn't work, HOWEver.

Subject: Re: Lots more working dogs videos to see

HOWEDY FRAUDreck,

fredhas...@msn.com wrote:

We was just talkin abHOWET HOWE to use your thirty five
levels of medical grade static like stimulation in a NON
AVERSIVE manner.

Date: 2004-06-14 16:25:51 PST

HOWEDY FRAUDreck,

Was they arresting you for animal abuse
or FRAUD, FRAUDreck?

INDEEDY, FRAUDreck. Who's side are you on?
You SHORE came HOWET lookin like a CHUMP
in that video, eh?

You took that shock collar off and your dog
wouldn't do NUTHIN you told him. You had
to repeat your "commands" and even had to
give up commanding the dog and went over
to ARGUE and FIGHT with him, just as you
told the cops THEY'D have to do if they didn't
have a nice shock collar like yours, but it wasn't
on the dog so your dog wasn't WORKIN for
the moment, eh FRAUDreck?

And a moment later you was physically
restraining your HOWETA CONTROL dog.

You've certainly HOWET done yourself, FRAUDreck.

Hey FRAUDreck? IMAGINE if you hadn't already
worked the dog for a long while on your shock
collar before removein it? You'd have had your
search party already organized, eh???

BWEEEEEEAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!

BWEEEEHAHAHAHHAHAHAAA!!!

Pretty EMBARRASSING, wasn't it.

The dog DIDN'T WORK withHOWET the shock collar.

Oh, bye the bye FRAUDreck? That aggitator, wasn't
that your pal tom, your pal the dog catcher?

Didn't he ride over with Maddy settin on his lap?

What's the big deal with puttin the aggitator's hand
in the dog's MHOWETH, to show the dog ain't a REAL K-9?

She's his pal, ain't she, FRAUDreck. Your dog
ain't no goddamend K-9, FRAUDreck. Your dog
is a sleeve happy fearful critter that REFUSED
EVERY COMMAND soon as you took off your
SHOCK collar.

You're a FRAUD, FRAUDreck, JUST LIKE
HOWE The Amazing Puppy Wizard SEZ.

                      Your videos PROVE it.

Here is a video from Fred which I have a few concerns
about (and maybe Fred can weigh in if he sees fit), THE
SAME "FRED" that johnny would invite to heelp his
shelter dogs learn RESPECT.

This is a video about Nero being taught to get on
a skateboard.

http://www.studioonline.com/playvideos.asp?crypt=A7E284B9ABDFCE0F

or

http://tinyurl.com/389al
In this video, the dog is constantly jerking his
head all around. I'm not SHORE why he's doing that.
If he's doing it because he is being shocked repeatedly
into getting onto that skateboard, then it is my
opinion that Fred Hassen is a dog abuser in the
extreme. As would anyone be, no matter how much
"experience" they had shocking dogs, nor how
nationally "respected" they are/were.

If, HOWEver, the dog is jerking his head all around
because he is happy and for no other reason, well,
then, never mind. I've just never seen this kind of
behavior from a dog before, so maybe Fred can
explain what would cause a dog to move his head
like that.

Here's a other:
http://tinyurl.com/2v9oh
Even your PALS the "DOG LOVERS" on the
abuse groups were HOWEtraged by those stunts.

"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good
of its victims, may be the most oppressive. Those
who torment us for our own good will torment us
without end, for they do so with the approval of
their own conscience." - C.S. Lewis.

"Death is better, a milder fate than tyranny",
Aeschylus (525BC-456BC), Agamemnon.

"Only the unenlightened speak of wisdom and right action
as separate, not the wise. If any man knows one, he
enjoys the fruit of both. The level which is reached by
wisdom is attained through right action as well. He who
perceives that the two are one knows the truth."

"Even the wise man acts in character with his nature,
indeed all creatures act according to their natures.
What is the use of compulsion then? The love and
hate which are aroused by the objects of sense arise
from Nature, do not yield to them. They only obstruct
the path." Bhagavad Gita, adapted by Krishna with
permission from His FREE copy of my FREE Wits'
End Dog Training Method manual.

Force training JERRYIZES dogs, and GETS THEM DEAD.

       The Amazing Puppy Wizard. <{} ; ~  )  >

Subject: Re: I use an shock collar - I'm a dog abuser

HOWEDY tracy you freakin dog abusing mental case,

Tracy Doyle wrote:

HOWE COME do you suppose your own dogs have been in the
behavior clinic at Purdue for OBSESSIVE COMPULSIVE DISORDERS?

HOWE COME do you suppose FRAUDreck doesn't post here nomore?

FRAUDreck is a coward and dog abuser.

ALL temperament and behavior problems are the same same.

Well YES, it DOES. It covers the REASON you bums CANNOT
train your dogs despite your shock collars.

INDEEDY.

You're a dog abusing mental case.

Here's FRAUDRECK gettin JERRYIZED again:

Subject: "Dog Training For The Real World" - A Joke, By FRAUDreck
hassan.

"Granted That The Dog Who Fears Retribution
Will Adore His Owner," wm koehler.

                 "Dog Training For The Real World" -
                                      A Joke,
                            By FRAUDreck hassan.

BWWWAAHAHAHAAAA!!!

Date: 2002-03-02 16:17:51 PST

Hello People,

Here's our self professed expert fraudreck
showing his dog training bloomers:

Is this the one teaching us to put holes in the collar
to make it fit little doggies?

This is ridiculous. fraudreck is going to hurt the dog every time
it looks away from him and think he's trained his dog to adore
him.

It's all for show, the dog HATES the training and has
no choice, as it should be, if the dog is trained properly,
but not by hurting him every time he doesn't look at you
as fraudreck teaches.

An exercise in futility, strictly to stroke the ego
of the alphalpha duminance "trainer."

Yeah, a salesman. Like you, fraudreck.

"Infancy stages?" Dog lovers have been
BURNING dogs for thirty years.

Oh. That's EZ. You can't. Dogs don't LIKE
being shocked, fraudreck.

And I want to make it clear that it doesn't
matter HOWE MUCH you HURT and INTIMIDATE,
any pain fear or force in training is inappropriate
and abusive.

So that means you can't use it. Big deal.
Turn it on and the dog will sh.t and piss
himself, fraudreck.

You're quite the salesman if you think
shutting off the juice and telling us the
collar don't hurt is going to make us
think that turning it on and burning the
dog till his learns to shut it off is going
to be appreciated by our dogs and not
make them angry.

Because the dog would have no desire to look at you otherwise.

You mean shock him if he looks away from you, fraudreck.

And what do you suppose the dog is gonna think?
You got that cookie and you're hurting him. Means
to me, I got to take that cookie outta your yap and
throw you to the ground and growl into your throat
and bite you on your ear till you smarten the heel
up, fraudreck.

That's what it would mean to me if I was a dog
an you was pullin that crap on me.

I wouldn't give you the chance, and I wouldn't
take it when offered. I'd rip you off for it or ignore
it and bite you if you forced it on me.

Then you should rethink what you've been doing
to him under the disguise of training.

That's what should be worked on long before hurting the dog for
not adoring the goddamned weenie hangin outta your yap.

To protect your face from the dog you've been shocking.

Because you can't entice the dog to be interested
in you because you HURT him. That hot dog isn't
YOU, that hot dog might as well be a garbage can,
and you might as well be a fire hydrant next to it.

The shock, fraudreck. You think the semantics are
important to the dog?

When you shock him you want him to think of taking
a weenie outta your mouth.

Better lock your dog in his crate when you entertain, fraudreck.

SHOCK. That's what you do every time the dog
takes ITS eyes off you.

Right, and that shock is just cause he didn't look at the weenies.

You mean you'll SHOCK him every
time he looks away from your weenie.

Can't you say SHOCK, fraudreck?

That's HOWE COME you refuse to do
my dual shock collar challenge, fraudreck.

LET'S SEE. Put up or shut up.

Let's see you accept my dual shock collar challenge,
you lying dog abusing Thug. Go for it fraudreck, you'll
shut me up in one fell swoop.

YOU CAN'T. You're a liar and I've caught you lying.

Yeah? I got a $1000.00 dollar cash treat, a seminar
I'll organize for you, and I'll sell and train for you for
six months and I'll EAT MY HAT at the seminar,
fraudreck.

GO FOR IT, you miserable coward
blowhard dog abusing lying Thug.

Go for it.

You can't, cause you'll shock yourself,
and that would make you SHY fraudreck.

Get the heel outta here.

Stay on your knees, fraudreck. It becomes you.

Kinda like I stay on you bums till you get the heel outtat here?

I see. You want the weenie to be the fall guy?

BWWAAAAHAHAHAAA!!!

The dog knows YOU are the bum with the finger
on the big red button marked BURN.

HOWE COME you can't find the word BURN, fraudreck?

For looking at your weenie.

Well, that's a lot of shocking I'd say. No wonder
fraudreck won't wear the same collar the dog is
wearing.

Well, does that mean you'll accept my $1000.00
and the rest of my contract for demonstrating your
shock collar by wearing it the same as the dog gets, FRAUDRECK?

INDEED??? Imagine that when you're wearing the
same collar the dog is, you miserable coward lying
dog abusing Thug. Get the heel outta here.

EXACTLY. That's HOWE COME you won't accept
my challenges you lying dog abusing Thug coward.

SHOCK, fraudreck. Call a spade a spade. Prove
you're not a LIAR and a DOG ABUSER by accepting
my dual shock collar challenge or get outta this business.

Like you and your pals call for killfiling Jerry, hmm?

Right. And that's when my HIGH STAKES challenge
comes into effect.

That's when you an me cross paths and we stop to
chit chat, and I whack you out while your NATIONAL
CHUMPION ATTACK DOG Maddy refuses to look at
me, and I take her to my HOWES, never to be HURT
again, fraudreck.

You THINK so. The dog knows you got
that button, fraudreck.

You're a liar.

You mean CHOKE the dog, FRAUDreck.

Don't insult our intelligence or that of the dog you
can't outwit or you'd never NEED to HURT him from
jump street.

A weenie and a shock are required fraudreck, and you know it.

The dog will know that YOU are intentionally BURNING him.

The dog ain't stupid, frauddie.

?

Bunk.

You HURT dogs cause you're not bright enough
to OUTWIT them or you wouldn't NEED to HURT
them in the first place.

You like to say the SHOCK COLLAR doesn't HURT
fraudreck, but I call you a liar and you refuse to accept
my dual shock collar to prove you ain't.

You're outta gas.

You think so? You won't wear the same collar, fraudreck.

THAT'S ANXIETY.

Show us. You're always shootin your mouth of about
SHOWIN us. Go ahead, make my day you miserable
doubletalker.

You mean moore shocking.

Is that so, fraudreck? You're so childlike I could just hug you.

Yes, as soon as you demonstrate HOWE gently
you train these dogs.

Yeah, as he'll be standing next to me in front of that fence
with the three barking dogs behind it, while we chit chat about
attack dog training, and I walk off with your national association
of protection dogs champion a couple years running, as my dog,
never to be BURNED again, fraudreck.

Put your dog on the line, and I'll match it with my butt. Let's
SEE.

NOT A BREATH.

The only thing that'll be moving are the dogs
behind me and my fist when I take a backhander
at you.

You mean SHOCK.

That won't be necessary or allowed in this demo.

Nothing can be said after you ask Maddy to sit at
heel while you chit chat with Jerry.

You've already done that thousands of times, that's
HOWE COME I'll stake my a.s on humiliating you
and winning your dog and puttin you outta business
and changing the name of your show from "sit means
sit" to "Sit, GOOD BOY, NICE DOG, that's a GOOD FELLA!"

SHOCKING, fraudreck. Get honest with yourself.

After the fact, fraudreck? If you can't punish AFTER, you can't
PRAISE, after, cause that would be INCONSISTENT and
CONTRAWISE, wouldn't it, if your THEORY is correct...and it ain't.

SHOCKING.

You mean in FRUSTRATION, fraudreck?

You mean while SHOCKING your dog.

Unless your batteries wear out suddenly, as they tend to do.

To HURT the dogs MOORE, as NEEDED.

Perhaps that's HOWE COME you refuse
my dual shock collar challenge, fraudreck.

You really do think the dog is less intelligent than you are?

Oh, is that so? You didn't mention what happens
when the dog sh.ts and piss himself and runs away.

Did you FORGET to mention that part, fraudreck?

And you'll find that our pal fraudreck is conditioning the dog
to be totally dependent on the shock collar against all the
experts advice. But it cinches up sales for him and he likes that.

Got any response, fraudreck? j;~)