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The Magician - 19 Feb 2004 22:08 GMT
My cat Binky is going to be 10 yrs old in April.
He's so far been healthy up until about a yr or so ago when he had a
urinary tract infection which cleared up well.
Over the past month or two he has lost a LOT of weight.
He hardly ever comes out from under my bed, hardly eats, and when he
does...makes a mess around his bowl. Yesterday, after not eating for
days... he started puking, and when I went to pick him up... he howled
and moaned pitifully. And that's how he's been for the past
days...listless, and cries horribly when you go to move him.
He never drinks water from a bowl, and usually jumps up at the kitchen
sink for a drink. Lately I've been carrying him over to the sink because
he's too weak to get up himself. Too weak to move really.
Right now I'm unemployed and living at home. My mom only gets an SSI
check monthly...and we've barely been making ends meet to survive.
We spent our last $50. bucks for the month today to take Binky to the
vet. The vet examined him and said she couldn't tell what was wrong
without xrays, bloodwork, etc. She found the hard spots in his stomach
that I had found. She got her secretary to do an estimate, and it came to
almost $600. bucks. I told her we couldn't afford that, so she said she'd
try some medicine and to try to hydrate him. (he's painfully skinny now)
That cost $150.. which they agreed to bill us till the 1st of the month.
I talked with them and they said the were other alternatives, meaning
euthanasia if we felt we couldn't afford treatment...so he wouldn't
suffer. She did a bunch of calculations of his 6lb. weight, etc., and
came up with a figure of $160. to put him down. I told her I am a
recovering heroin addict, and if she was gonna OD him on China White
Dope. And that I could kill my own 225lb self on 3 bags of Heroin for
only $45 bucks.
I know this is going to sound horrifying and will get negative responses,
and I am crying as I type this...but does anyone know of a cheaper, "do
it yourself" method of euthanasia for a cat that quick, easy, and not
painful? It would break my heart and I probably would wimp out at the
last minute...but I don't want to see him suffer if this antibiotic
doesn't take effect. But unfortunately my situation can't afford
otherwise. I have no one else to turn to for the amount of money it would
cost just to properly diagnose him...let alone cure him. (That's IF he is
curable after the diagnosis) I have access to hypodermic needles because
of a diabetic friend if that helps. I am so devastatd and brokenhearted
over this...but again don't want to see my Binky suffer due to my bad
situation.
Any advice would be extremely appreciated.
Thank you.
eddie
Luvskats00 - 19 Feb 2004 22:46 GMT
Congrats to vanished@thedropofahat.com
for winning the troll of the day award....

I've seen that topic posted many times before (do it yourself euthenasia for
pet cat)..You should change the topic to reflect originality.

do us a favor and OD on heroin yourself..leave the cat alone - if you have one,
that is.  If you can't afford to care for the cat - and it seems your prospects
aren't good (long term) what are you doing with a cat anyway?
XMar - 19 Feb 2004 23:03 GMT
Wished I had seen this before I replied to the idiot.

> Congrats to vanished@thedropofahat.com
> for winning the troll of the day award....
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> that is.  If you can't afford to care for the cat - and it seems your prospects
> aren't good (long term) what are you doing with a cat anyway?
The Magician - 20 Feb 2004 00:30 GMT
> Wished I had seen this before I replied to the idiot.

Thank you for your original kind hearted thoughts and input...
I really was honest, and wasn't "trolling".
It's a shame you follow a "go with the rest" sheep mentality.
Unfortunately I live in a Yuppie watering hole of a town, and there
aren't any cheaper vets around. That's exactly my predicament...
High priced yuppie vets, no money, and shooting cats in the streets are
frowned on in the city.
Newsgroups seem to be he one place where you can be honest, bare your
soul and feelings...and have them dumped on by a.sholes like in the above
post.
But thanks for your original kind words.

eddie
The Magician - 20 Feb 2004 00:30 GMT
> Congrats to vanished@thedropofahat.com
> for winning the troll of the day award....
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> that is.  If you can't afford to care for the cat - and it seems your prospects
> aren't good (long term) what are you doing with a cat anyway?

And I've seen a.sholes like you on newsgroups yell out "troll" just cuz
they were too immature, insensitive, or too STOOPID to understand a
person's situaton.
I was being honest and sincere, and it broke my heart to think about
it...let alone even have to mention it on a public forum.
f.ck you DICKHEAD...and the horse you rode in on.
I don't care WHAT you've "seen before".
Not everyone has an extra $600 bucks to spend on diagnosing an animal's
health...or for a cure afterward for that matter.
Even the Vet discussed putting him down if we couldn't afford healthcare
you j.rkoff.
Things are tough for some people lately.
And some people in a bad situation have to think realistically and do the
best they can.
I was looking for suggestions...not pinheaded judgemental comments like
yours...you silly f.ck.
Cheryl - 20 Feb 2004 00:54 GMT
19 Feb 2004:

> I was looking for suggestions...not pinheaded judgemental comments like
> yours...you silly f.ck.

You must excuse because euthanasia really isn't that expensive (~$75 US
where I am, and this is expensive vet territory) Trying to euthanize your
own pet has been brought up here time and time again.  Some probably
trollish in nature, some probably sincere. But if cost is the motivating
factor, it shouldn't be. If you can't afford to treat for a treatable
illness and feel euthanasia is the "second" best option, perhaps ask your
vet if they know anyone who could adopt him?  If the mass public is made
aware that an otherwise adoptable pet only needs some medical treatment,
you'd be amazed at the outpour of support for the animal to save its life.

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The Magician - 20 Feb 2004 01:10 GMT
> You must excuse because euthanasia really isn't that expensive (~$75 US
> where I am, and this is expensive vet territory) Trying to euthanize your
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> aware that an otherwise adoptable pet only needs some medical treatment,
> you'd be amazed at the outpour of support for the animal to save its life.

I have to see the vet in a week to figure out his progress and what path
to take. That would be a great idea if it could work. I'll ask the vet.
I would rather give Binky up for adoption, than to put him to sleep.
(even though that too would break my heart...but I'd be happy knowing it
would be for the best if he'd survive.)
I appologize for the foul language...but I'm not in the best of moods,
and am in pain over this. It hasn't been a great year, and when I
sincerely ask for help and advice, and get drivel from idiots like the
above post...I just see red.
Thank you Cheryl.
eddie
Magic Mood Jeep? - 20 Feb 2004 02:02 GMT
Eddie,

While I understand your plight, the end part of wanting to kill your cat
yourself DOES make you sound like a bazillion other trolls to this newsgroup
(and other newsgroups too, I'll bet).

If you would post the name address of your vet, and the name of your cat (is
it Binky?), maybe some of us that ****want**** to help can donate money to
the vet in order to pay for your cat's treatment.

Believe it or not, there are some kind hearted people out there.

If you want, you may email me privately nalee1964@insightbb.com (the email
in my headers is false in order to defer spam, and don't follow the link in
my geocities website as that acct has been turned off due to massive amounts
of spam), especially if you do not want to post that info on Usenet.

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> > You must excuse because euthanasia really isn't that expensive (~$75 US
> > where I am, and this is expensive vet territory) Trying to euthanize your
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> Thank you Cheryl.
> eddie
Cheryl - 20 Feb 2004 04:13 GMT
Feb 2004:

> If you would post the name address of your vet, and the name of your
> cat (is it Binky?), maybe some of us that ****want**** to help can
> donate money to the vet in order to pay for your cat's treatment.

If this is sincere I would send a few bucks Binky's way.

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The Magician - 20 Feb 2004 06:23 GMT
> Eddie,
>
> While I understand your plight, the end part of wanting to kill your cat
> yourself DOES make you sound like a bazillion other trolls to this newsgroup
> (and other newsgroups too, I'll bet).

I'm not aware of that...I've never been on it.

> If you would post the name address of your vet, and the name of your cat (is
> it Binky?), maybe some of us that ****want**** to help can donate money to
> the vet in order to pay for your cat's treatment.

I wasn't looking for handouts...just some kind words of advice...
but God works in mysterious ways, and I'm not too proud or above
accepting help from kind people. I love my cat, and would rather see him
cared for and cured...even though asking how to painlessly euthanize him
might not sound like it. I was just "running outta road" and options this
afternoon. And please excuse any angry comments I made to the
insensitive, cynical, and coldhearted newsgroup jerks. I'm just going
thru a bad time and they just really piss me off.
But just so people know I'm not "trolling"...

His name is Binky, and I took him here today:

Hoboken Animal Hospital
Dr. Krusko
640 Washington St.
Hoboken, NJ 07030
201-963-3604

Again...it's NOT my intention to ask for money...just advice.
The vet quoted me an estimate of close to $600 dollars...which I would
never expect to recieve from the charitableness of strangers.
I just needed some hope and prayers...which I've gotten from most of you.
To all the kind folks out there that answered me with kindness and words
of hope...
Thank you...
And God Bless.
eddie
The Magician - 20 Feb 2004 06:47 GMT
For those who care...here's a picture of Binky:

http://www.optonline.net/optipet/gallery?CID=feed%3DB-B%26newsChannel%
3D18#

Thank you again...
And God Bless.
eddie
The Magician - 20 Feb 2004 06:59 GMT
Sorry...having trouble with link for some reason.

Try again:
http://www.optonline.net/optipet/gallery?CID=feed%3DB-B%26newsChannel%
3D18

eddie
StocksRus? - 20 Feb 2004 15:50 GMT
> Sorry...having trouble with link for some reason.
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> eddie

Damn cute kitty. It seems you are for real. I'll throw in a few bucks.
Should I call the VET?

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The Magician - 20 Feb 2004 16:00 GMT
> Damn cute kitty. It seems you are for real. I'll throw in a few bucks.
> Should I call the VET?

I don't want to make any statements about that because like I stated
before...I wasn't looking for money...just advice.
And from some of the negative reponses from people misinterpreting what I
said here...I don't want my original post to be misconstrued as a plea
for money. If you feel like calling the vet and helping out...I'm not too
proud to say no.
I love my cat, and want him to be well...and I feel helpless because I'm
out of work and just making ends meet.
Thank you.
eddie
StocksRus? - 20 Feb 2004 16:14 GMT
>> Damn cute kitty. It seems you are for real. I'll throw in a few
>> bucks. Should I call the VET?
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> Thank you.
> eddie

And I happen to believe you. I happen to LOVE cats...and so if I can
help, I will.
Good luck my friend and don't let the jerks get to you.

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JP Hobbs - 25 Feb 2004 06:30 GMT
Ican't get the pic up either I've tried a few times, on different posts too
so I guess I'll just have to miss out would love to have seen her
I'll try and put in a few dollars when I know how   Jean

> For those who care...here's a picture of Binky:
>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>  And God Bless.
>  eddie
Wendy - 20 Feb 2004 12:37 GMT
In article <CUdZb.361606$na.539805@attbi_s04>, nobody@nowhere.net says...
> Eddie,
>
> While I understand your plight, the end part of wanting to kill your cat
> yourself DOES make you sound like a bazillion other trolls to this newsgroup
> (and other newsgroups too, I'll bet).

I'm not aware of that...I've never been on it.

> If you would post the name address of your vet, and the name of your cat (is
> it Binky?), maybe some of us that ****want**** to help can donate money to
> the vet in order to pay for your cat's treatment.

I wasn't looking for handouts...just some kind words of advice...
but God works in mysterious ways, and I'm not too proud or above
accepting help from kind people. I love my cat, and would rather see him
cared for and cured...even though asking how to painlessly euthanize him
might not sound like it. I was just "running outta road" and options this
afternoon. And please excuse any angry comments I made to the
insensitive, cynical, and coldhearted newsgroup jerks. I'm just going
thru a bad time and they just really piss me off.
But just so people know I'm not "trolling"...

His name is Binky, and I took him here today:

Hoboken Animal Hospital
Dr. Krusko
640 Washington St.
Hoboken, NJ 07030
201-963-3604

Again...it's NOT my intention to ask for money...just advice.
The vet quoted me an estimate of close to $600 dollars...which I would
never expect to recieve from the charitableness of strangers.
I just needed some hope and prayers...which I've gotten from most of you.
To all the kind folks out there that answered me with kindness and words
of hope...
Thank you...
And God Bless.
eddie

$600 is probably about right. We paid that last October for 1 day inpatient,
IV, blood work etc. and euthanasia. Vets aren't cheap in this part of the
world.
Seriously check with the local shelters and SPCA and see if they can suggest
something.

W
equalizer - 20 Feb 2004 16:03 GMT
I just called this vet and verified the story. I plan on donating something
tonight when I get home. If anyone else plans to, please be aware that the
receptionist told me they have "a million Binkies", and was only able to track
down this one by Ed's first name. They can't give anymore details, but if you
donate, make sure you reference Binkie owned by Eddie, and the date of
treatment.

eq

>> Eddie,
>>
[quoted text clipped - 35 lines]
>And God Bless.
>eddie
StocksRus? - 20 Feb 2004 16:28 GMT
> I just called this vet and verified the story. I plan on donating
> something tonight when I get home. If anyone else plans to, please be
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>>Hoboken, NJ 07030
>>201-963-3604

Good for you eq. If you want his last name, it's on the page with the
picture of Binkie.

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zuzu22@webtv.net - 20 Feb 2004 17:11 GMT
>His name is Binky, and I took him here
>today:
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>Hoboken, NJ 07030
>201-963-3604

I spoke to Diane, the clinic manager, and talked about possibilities for
Binky including making donations. She said she had discussed with the OP
some payment options which she didn't disclose and it's up to the OP to
let us know what those entail. My idea would be that some basic things
like xrays (2 views, maybe they could get away with one which would
knock $60 off the cost) and bloodwork would be a good starting point.
The total for that is going to be about $230-240. This would probably
give the best idea of what is going on and be somewhat conservative. It
may be that there is cancer or something untreatable, but if that's the
case at least a decision to do euthanasia would be an informed one.

I asked Diane about the possibility of discounting services and/or
waiving fees for the office visits. She is going to talk to the head
honcho and the doctor, but this will take some time and she may not know
until Monday. She said that if anyone wants to make donations to wait
until Monday to call and she should know more by then and be able to set
something up. In the meantime I would like to see a post from the OP
detailing what was discussed with the clinic manager and also what he
can do to come up with some of the money. Hopefully we can all work
*together* to do something to help Binky.

Megan

                                   
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StocksRus? - 20 Feb 2004 17:40 GMT
zuzu22@webtv.net wrote in news:5896-40363FB4-65@storefull-
3194.bay.webtv.net:

>>His name is Binky, and I took him here
>>today:
[quoted text clipped - 49 lines]
>
> - W.H. Murray

Just got off the phone with them and all donations need to go through the
owner. She said "arrangements have been made" with the owner. I'd still
like to help.

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zuzu22@webtv.net - 20 Feb 2004 17:56 GMT
>Just got off the phone with them and all
>donations need to go through the owner.
>She said "arrangements have been made"
>with the owner.

Did you speak to Diane? We obviously aren't going to send the owner
money and all donations should be made directly to the clinic. She's
going to call me back later so hopefully we can straighten this out.

Megan

                                   
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way."

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StocksRus? - 20 Feb 2004 18:14 GMT
zuzu22@webtv.net wrote in news:2808-40364A37-52@storefull-
3198.bay.webtv.net:

>>Just got off the phone with them and all
>>donations need to go through the owner.
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> Megan

Please post what she says.

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zuzu22@webtv.net - 20 Feb 2004 18:57 GMT
StocksRus® wrote:

>Please post what she says.

I just spoke to Diane again and apparently she has worked out something
with the OP, who is going to see how Binky does through the weekend and
I believe bring him in for some basic diagnostics on Monday. She advised
to wait until Monday and if you want to make a donation you may do so by
calling her and making a payment by phone, or mailing a donation marked
ATTN: Diane and a note as to who it is for. Hopefully the OP will post
and tell us what arrangements he has made so we can figure out how much
help he will need and act accordingly on Monday once more testing has
been done.

Megan



                                   
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splendid plans: that the moment one definitely commits oneself, then
providence moves too. A whole stream of events issues from the decision,
raising in one's favor all manner of unforeseen incidents, meetings and
material assistance, which no man could have dreamt would have come his
way."

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StocksRus? - 20 Feb 2004 19:09 GMT
zuzu22@webtv.net wrote in news:3060-4036587D-38@storefull-
3195.bay.webtv.net:

>>Please post what she says.
>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> Megan

Thanks for the update.

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The Magician - 20 Feb 2004 19:28 GMT
> I just spoke to Diane again and apparently she has worked out something
> with the OP, who is going to see how Binky does through the weekend and
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> Megan

Please see my 2/20 1:52 PM post detailing what exactly happened and what
I was told by the vets office yesterday, and again today
Thank you so much again for your thoughts, prayers, and generosity Megan.
love,
eddie
equalizer - 20 Feb 2004 19:43 GMT
>>Just got off the phone with them and all
>>donations need to go through the owner.
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
>Megan

I called them this morning. A little while later, I called again and
gave Diane my VISA number, an amount, and told her I wanted it applied
to the care of this cat. She called back a little later and said that
the management of the hospital had worked out something with the owner,
and that they wouldn't accept donations -- that we would have to do that
through the owner. So Megan, you're usually really good at managing
these things -- any suggestions on how to proceed? It would've made it a
hell of a lot easier if they'd just accept donations into a pool. Maybe
a local shelter could administer the funds? I'm a little pissed at this
vet for wanting $165 for a euthanization to begin with, I wonder if
Eddie knows of an alternative vet?

eq

>                                    
>
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
>
>- W.H. Murray
zuzu22@webtv.net - 21 Feb 2004 03:21 GMT
eq wrote:

>She called back a little later and said
>that the management of the hospital had
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>good at managing these things -- any
>suggestions on how to proceed?

I posted the last post about donations right after I talked to Diane. I
discussed the fact that people here would be more comfortable making
direct payments to the vet and she understood that and agreed to take
them. Check the time of my post and if you talked to her well before
that than the issue of payments should be cleared up. Give her a call
Monday and tell her you want to make a payment towards Binky's bill and
it shouldn't be a problem. If there's a problem let me know and I'll
call her again.

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"Concerning all acts of initiative (and creation), there is one
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splendid plans: that the moment one definitely commits oneself, then
providence moves too. A whole stream of events issues from the decision,
raising in one's favor all manner of unforeseen incidents, meetings and
material assistance, which no man could have dreamt would have come his
way."

- W.H. Murray

equalizer - 21 Feb 2004 09:02 GMT
>eq wrote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>
>Megan

Thanks

I'll call again Monday.
                                   

>"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do
>nothing."
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>
>- W.H. Murray
The Magician - 20 Feb 2004 18:52 GMT
> I spoke to Diane, the clinic manager, and talked about possibilities for
> Binky including making donations. She said she had discussed with the OP
> some payment options which she didn't disclose and it's up to the OP to
> let us know what those entail.

I spoke to her when leaving the clinic yesterday. The general idea at the
time was to "wait and see" for around a week to see if the medicine they
gave him did anything, since I didn't have the cash for the xrays, etc.
And she had mentioned being able to "work with me" on some "diagnostics",
but ultimately he would need to do bloodwork and xrays (which was the
most costly and would need to be paid for)
But we never discussed any "payment options" in any kind of detail.
Originally they had given me an estimate a mile long with bloodwork,
xrays, hospital stay, waste removal, medicine, etc. etc....totalling
close to $600.
The xrays and bloodwork came to a few hundred alone.
I agreed to wait because we still owe them and have to pay off the
original $110. office visit & medicine fee on the first of the month.

> I asked Diane about the possibility of discounting services and/or
> waiving fees for the office visits. She is going to talk to the head
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> can do to come up with some of the money. Hopefully we can all work
> *together* to do something to help Binky.

I got a call from Diane about 1/2 hour ago to see how Binky was doing,
and I told her about this post, and some folks wanting to make donations.
She told me that she didn't know if that would be ok or not, and needed
to talk to the manager or someone about donations, and would get back to
me. A short while later, another Dr. from the animal hospital called to
check on how Binky was doing, and said we could wait to see what happened
in terms of meds... or I could bring him in for the xrays etc.
And he mentioned (but not in any detail) that they could possibly work
with us in terms of like post dating checks etc.
But the fact still remains...we're on a very fixed income.
And for right now...it's hard to promise something you haven't really
got. Amazingly since giving him his meds...Binky has actually gotten up
on his own, and tried to eat this morning. I told the Dr. I would like to
wait until monday to see if he improved. We both agreed that it didn't
sound good given what the first Doctor had diagnosed...and he'd need the
bloodwork & xrays. So we agreed to see what happens, and talk Monday.
We also talked about me giving Binky some chicken broth in an eye dropper
or empty mustard squirt bottle, to keep up his nutrition.
For right now, about the most we can come up with is around $50-70 extra
monthly if the vet will accept that monday when we talk.
If he can work with that...fine.
This is starting to get even more crazy and confusing that before, and
again...I just want to make it clear that I'm not looking for donations.
I made the original post out of confusion, desparation, and anguish over
what to do about my cat's condition, and over my current temporary
financial situation.
I don't want to anger people, solicit donations, or have this turn into
something it shouldn't.
I'm confused right now over these posts, where this is all going...
and what to do.
I'd like to just wait until Monday to see how Binky does, go in and talk
to the vet, see what we can come up with, and take it from there.
Hearing the kind words and attempted generousity from the good people on
this newsgroup has brought tears to my eyes.
I'll keep you all updated, and let you know what happens on monday.
And if anyone wants to help out then... it wouldn't denied by me, and
would be appreciated.
Thank you for your thoughts and advice, and continue to think of Binky in
your prayers.

eddie
StocksRus? - 20 Feb 2004 19:07 GMT
> I'd like to just wait until Monday to see how Binky does, go in and
> talk to the vet, see what we can come up with, and take it from there.
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> eddie
>    
Eddie,
Again...people want to help. Let them.
I know you are not asking for donations. I and a few others are "offering"
unsolicited.

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The Magician - 20 Feb 2004 19:28 GMT
> Eddie,
> Again...people want to help. Let them.
> I know you are not asking for donations. I and a few others are "offering"
> unsolicited.

Thank you for your kind words, concern, and generosity.
It restores my faith in the goodness of people, and how even strangers
can come together to help.
I just gotta get outta the way, drop my pride and allow that help.
I'll let you all know what happens on monday.
Thanks again.
love,
eddie
M.C. Mullen - 21 Feb 2004 08:02 GMT
| This is starting to get even more crazy and confusing that before, and
| again...I just want to make it clear that I'm not looking for donations.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
| I'm confused right now over these posts, where this is all going...
| and what to do.

I like the fact that people are getting involved here. It makes the vets
care about your case.
I find it shocking though what they charge!

Carola
NickKnight - 20 Feb 2004 20:04 GMT
>I asked Diane about the possibility of discounting services and/or
>waiving fees for the office visits. She is going to talk to the head
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>can do to come up with some of the money. Hopefully we can all work
>*together* to do something to help Binky.
And what guarantee is there this money won't be spent on heroin?

When I was an EMT we rushed too many "recovering" heroin
addicts to the hospital with overdoses.  

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>>I asked Diane about the possibility of discounting services and/or
>>waiving fees for the office visits. She is going to talk to the head
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> When I was an EMT we rushed too many "recovering" heroin
> addicts to the hospital with overdoses.  

Ummm....cause he's 10 years recovering. And his story is real...check out
the number and web page where his kitty's picture is posted. Why would
you be such an a.shole and say that?
I used to beat the sh.t out of p*ssy EMT's.
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On Fri, 20 Feb 2004 20:09:39 GMT, "StocksRus®"
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>Ummm....cause he's 10 years recovering. And his story is real...check out
>the number and web page where his kitty's picture is posted. Why would
>you be such an a.shole and say that?
> I used to beat the sh.t out of p*ssy EMT's.
Becuae i've put my neck on the line to rush too many "recovering"
addicts to the hospital only to learn later they weren't quit as
recovering as they claim to be.   Amazing what blood tests reveal.

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>Becuae i've put my neck on the line to rush too many "recovering"
>addicts to the hospital only to learn later they weren't quit as
>recovering as they claim to be.

Geez, I feel just awful for the cats that might be under your care.

Dik
NickKnight - 21 Feb 2004 16:18 GMT
>>Becuae i've put my neck on the line to rush too many "recovering"
>>addicts to the hospital only to learn later they weren't quit as
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
>Dik
Why? What does one have to do with the other?  

How many times have you been on the ambulance that
was the first on the scene when some clown gets high
and wipes out an entire family in one fell swoop?

And what does that revulsion at seeing the carnage have to
do with my cats (who are very happy and healthy)?  
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Dik F. Liu - 21 Feb 2004 06:09 GMT
>Becuae i've put my neck on the line to rush too many "recovering"
>addicts to the hospital only to learn later they weren't quit as
>recovering as they claim to be.

Geez, I feel just awful for the cats that might be under your care.

Dik
zuzu22@webtv.net - 21 Feb 2004 03:33 GMT
Nick Knight wrote:
>And what guarantee is there this money
>won't be spent on heroin?

A s I clearly stated in a previous post, arrangements have been made to
make direct payments to the vet. I don't know why you are intent on
being such an a.shole to someone who has been clean for ten years, but
it really is unnecessary. You are blaming this guy for all the crap
you've seen, but the reality is that he wasn't involved in any of your
experiences and you're being completely unfair. You have no idea what he
did in his past and to make all these accusations about stealing and
driving under the influence when you don't even know this person is
stupid and unnecessary. Someone that has beat a heroin addiction and
stayed clean for ten years deserves praise, not the nastiness and
villification you are intent on inflicting on the OP. If you want to get
pissed at someone, get pissed at the people that are *still* using, not
someone who has quit. Or better yet, redirect all that negative energy
you are expending to something positive, like helping a cat.

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Dee - 21 Feb 2004 05:36 GMT
> Someone that has beat a heroin addiction and
> stayed clean for ten years deserves praise, not the nastiness and
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> Megan

You GO girl!!!

Dee
NickKnight - 21 Feb 2004 16:34 GMT
>> Someone that has beat a heroin addiction and
>> stayed clean for ten years deserves praise, not the nastiness and
>> villification you are intent on inflicting on the OP.

And how do we know he is really still clean? Wake up and smell
the coffee.  There are people who go buy "clean" urine and then
use that to pass their "court mandated" urine tests.  There are
people who will tell now they aren't using and in five mintues
they will several miles down the road shooting heroin.  

These drug addicts learn every trick in the book very quikly.

But then if you want to flush your money down the toilet go
right ahead.  
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| >> Someone that has beat a heroin addiction and
| >> stayed clean for ten years deserves praise, not the nastiness and
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
| But then if you want to flush your money down the toilet go
| right ahead.

You may have your reasons ... but please don't be so negative. Give the man
a chance and be thankful that you had a good sheltered childhood.

Carola
NickKnight - 22 Feb 2004 05:29 GMT
>You may have your reasons ... but please don't be so negative. Give the man
>a chance and be thankful that you had a good sheltered childhood.
I didn't have a sheltered childhood.   I just looked around and saw
people on LSD jumping out windows trying to fly and having
haluciantions.  That convinced me to never try any drugs.

I grew up in the 60s and the amount of drugs around convinced
me never to use them.

I also saw what it did to others.

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> A s I clearly stated in a previous post, arrangements have been made to
> make direct payments to the vet. I don't know why you are intent on
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
> Megan

Thanks for coming to my defense Megan,
A lot of people have no idea about the self-inflicted Hell of alcohol &
drug addiction. Some people don't understand the term "recovering" and
think that means "still using". I cleaned up my act and taught myself
computers graphics, and WAS working in the field up until a year ago when
my company moved to Florida.
It's just that with the present economy, and job markets...things have
been rough the past year. It's hard to even find work in a supermarket
around here these days. So...we're just "weathering the storm".
But even given that...my life has been restored again. I'd rather be
clean and poor...than rich and using.
I wouldn't trade my best day when I was getting high, for my worst days
clean and sober.
There are lots of famous addicts in recovery...
Eric Clapton, Samuel L. Jackson, Robin Williams, Richard Lewis, Kelsey
Grammer, Tatum O'Neal, Alec Baldwin, Elton John...
All doing fine, and leading very rich, productive lives.
They say only 3% of addicts actually "make it" in recovery.
So far...I've made it for 10 years....but for the grace of God.
But none of that has anything to do with my Binky.
Which seems to be the only focus by the jerks that've been posting here .

As an update...Binky's not doing so well today. He's very listless again,
and doesn't want to be moved. I've been giving him his medicine, and
yesterday he showed some signs of life, and actually very shakily, got
up, ate, went potty, rubbed around our legs, and sat with us for awhile.
Today...he's not so frisky, and just lays there under the bed. I'll be
taking him back to the vet on monday, will try to work something out with
them, and keep you all posted on his progress.
Thank you all again for your kind words.
love,
eddie

p.s.
I have a website (yes...it's possible to be unemployed and have one if
you paid for it while you were working.)...and will post a few pictures
of Binky for anyone who's interested
NickKnight - 21 Feb 2004 16:38 GMT
>A lot of people have no idea about the self-inflicted Hell of alcohol &
>drug addiction. Some people don't understand the term "recovering" and
>think that means "still using".
Beause often times they do fall off the wagon.  For some it tomorrow,
some 10 years, some 20 years, some even longer.  But many do fall
off the wagon.

And there are many famous addicts who aren't: like Janis Joplin.

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NickKnight - 21 Feb 2004 16:28 GMT
>A s I clearly stated in a previous post, arrangements have been made to
>make direct payments to the vet.
And you are enabling this clown.   Now he can take what little money
he has left and blow it on drugs.  

The poiknt to keep in mind with drug addicts and alcoholics is
they are always "revovering" alcoholics.  They are always have an
oppurtunity to fall off the wagon.  And many of them do.  

> I don't know why you are intent on
>being such an a.shole to someone who has been clean for ten years, but
>it really is unnecessary.
Becuase i've had to deal with some family who was wipped out
by someeone who was "clean" for 15+ years, but all of a sudden
falls off the wagon and wipes out an entire family.  

I would point out a recovering addict is a recovering addict for
the rest of their life.   Many times they will fall off the wagon,
sometimes that is tomorrow, 10+ years, 20+ years, etc.,
But the point is many do fall off the wagon and if you do anything
to help them you are enabling them to fall off the wagon.  

Get a job on an ambulance sometime and see how
symjpathetic you'll be when you see this clown
who drove under the influence of drugs and
killed an entire family.  

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zuzu22@webtv.net - 21 Feb 2004 19:33 GMT
Nick,
I'm not sure why you chose this thread and situation to be so completely
unreasonable and pull situations out of thin air and apply them to the
OP, a person you know absolutely nothing about. The fact is you can't
make predictions about what a total stranger's behavior is or isn't or
what it may or may not be in the future.

Regardless, none of your conjecture, extrapolation, or ranting about
situations that have absolutely NOTHING to do with Binky means anything
and only shows you to be a very bitter, repugnant and clueless
individual. You are willing to sacrifice the welfare of a cat by telling
people not to help for some unexplainable personal vendetta and it's
sickening. AFAIC, nothing you say is to be taken seriously by anyone
here, and the posters here that have compassion and understanding will,
despite your best efforts, call the vet on Monday and donate to help
Binky get the medical care he desperately needs. Deal with it.

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NickKnight - 21 Feb 2004 20:30 GMT
>I'm not sure why you chose this thread and situation to be so completely
>unreasonable and pull situations out of thin air and apply them to the
>OP, a person you know absolutely nothing about. The fact is you can't
>make predictions about what a total stranger's behavior is or isn't or
>what it may or may not be in the future.
Because when the poster says he is a recovering addict and  I flat out
don't believe him.  I've seen the carnage from too many who tried to
play that game and took other people with them on their trip to the
great beyond.  

>Regardless, none of your conjecture, extrapolation, or ranting about
>situations that have absolutely NOTHING to do with Binky means anything
>and only shows you to be a very bitter, repugnant and clueless
>individual.
No, you are clueless. By helping this poster you are enabling him
to go and spend what little money he has on drugs.  

> You are willing to sacrifice the welfare of a cat by telling
>people not to help for some unexplainable personal vendetta and it's
>sickening.
I would like nothing more than to help a cat but i'm not
going to sit back and watch while some clown is enbabled
to get behind the wheel of a car high on drugs and killl a family of
six.   If it comes to a choice between saving one cat or saving
a family of six i'm going to side with the family of six.  

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zuzu22@webtv.net - 21 Feb 2004 21:20 GMT
Nick Knight wrote:

> By helping this poster you are enabling
> him to go and spend what little money he
> has on drugs.

Prove it. He's been clean and sober for ten years and, contrary to your
incredibly uninformed claims, most people that beat an addiction stay
clean.

>>   You are willing to sacrifice the
>> welfare of a cat by telling people not
>> to help for some unexplainable personal
>> vendetta and it's sickening.

> I would like nothing more than to help a
> cat but i'm not going to sit back and
> watch while some clown is enbabled to
> get behind the wheel of a car high on
> drugs and killl a family of six.  

And how <exactly> do you know that the OP is using drugs, plans on using
drugs, or plans to get behind the wheel of a car in a drug-induced
state? And don't start with the bullshit about what you claim to have
seen on your job. That does not apply in this situation and unless you
have absolute facts to back up your accusations and predictions for the
future WRT the OP then STFU.

>If it
> comes to a choice between saving one cat
> or saving a family of six i'm going to
> side with the family of six.

There is no family of six involved in this situation. So you'll take
some time off from trolling the newsgroup and call the clinic to make a
donation on Monday then?

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equalizer - 21 Feb 2004 21:48 GMT
>There is no family of six involved in this situation. So you'll take
>some time off from trolling the newsgroup and call the clinic to make a
>donation on Monday then?
>
>Megan

I doubt that! Everyone knows that EMT's are so burned out on their jobs
that they're chronic alcoholics that spend all their free money on their
elixirs so they can continue to do their ghoulish jobs which depend on
the misfortunes of others to keep them in the vicious cycle......

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>
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>
>- W.H. Murray
equalizer - 21 Feb 2004 20:07 GMT
<SNIP>ff the wagon.  

>Get a job on an ambulance sometime and see how
>symjpathetic you'll be when you see this clown
>who drove under the influence of drugs and
>killed an entire family.  

If you're burned out on the job, you sniveling little lightweight, and
can no longer handle the blood and gore which are part of the job --
then QUIT !! None of us care if you can no longer accept that which is a
given in the job we can only assume you went into willingly without
someone holding a gun to your head. You certainly don't have OUR
sympathy.

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>If you're burned out on the job, you sniveling little lightweight, and
>can no longer handle the blood and gore which are part of the job --
>then QUIT !! None of us care if you can no longer accept that which is a
>given in the job we can only assume you went into willingly without
>someone holding a gun to your head. You certainly don't have OUR
>sympathy.
I'm not burned out by the job.  I'm burned out by the attitude in
this country where we tolerate people driving under the influence.

It's so senseless to see a family of seven wiped out
becaue some clown couldn't stop snorting drugs long
enough to drive from point A to B.

If it were up to me if you drove drunk/high on drugs you would
be in jail for 100 years.

So suppose all you people would give those who drive under the
influence of drugs a medal and tell them job well done?

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>>If you're burned out on the job, you sniveling little lightweight, and
>>can no longer handle the blood and gore which are part of the job --
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>I'm not burned out by the job.  I'm burned out by the attitude in
>this country where we tolerate people driving under the influence.

Admit it Nicky -- you're burned out! All the evidence you're putting
fourth here points very clearly to that. Remember -- admitting you have
a problem is the FIRST STEP to dealing with it!!

>It's so senseless to see a family of seven wiped out
>becaue some clown couldn't stop snorting drugs long
>enough to drive from point A to B.

See?!? In your last few posts, it was a family of 6. Your argument is
already falling apart, which is no great surprise, and your
unconsciously playing with your own data already to compensate! Take a
vacation buddy -- you need it and definitely have earned it. Anyone that
can make their living in a profession that depends on people getting
injured or horribly mutilated so you can eat definitely NEEDS
decompression. Do it before you kill someone on the road making a packy
run to decompress!!

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>See?!? In your last few posts, it was a family of 6.
Here is a news flash for you: famillies come in various sizes.

A drunk driver plows into a car killing everyone inside.   That car
can contain as little as one person and as many as 12 in the case
of a larger vehicle.

There are just dead, no matter how many there are.

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>>If you're burned out on the job, you sniveling little lightweight, and
>>can no longer handle the blood and gore which are part of the job --
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> becaue some clown couldn't stop snorting drugs long
> enough to drive from point A to B.

I thought you said family of six.
Nick...I don't condone driving under the influence and you know that's
not the issue here.

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>I thought you said family of six.
There have been numerous accidents that wiped out the entire family in
that vehicle.  Some as little as one person, some as many as
12.    The reesult is they are still just as dead.

>Nick...I don't condone driving under the influence and you know that's
>not the issue here.

IIt sure sounds like you are.

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>>I thought you said family of six.
> There have been numerous accidents that wiped out the entire family in
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>>>
> IIt sure sounds like you are.

Ummm OK...I've had it with you.
F*CK OFF

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Dik F. Liu - 22 Feb 2004 02:37 GMT
>I'm not burned out by the job.<

Don't take this the wrong way. But please get some help before you go postal.

Dik
equalizer - 22 Feb 2004 05:14 GMT
>>I'm not burned out by the job.<
>
>Don't take this the wrong way. But please get some help before you go postal.
>
>Dik

No kidding !! The guy's in classic denial if ever I've seen it. I only
hope someone spots it before he kills someone drunk driving because of
job stress....

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NickKnight - 22 Feb 2004 05:30 GMT
>>I'm not burned out by the job.<
>
>Don't take this the wrong way. But please get some help before you go postal.
>
>Dik
You people are condoning driving under the influence and you're
blaming me?  
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>>>I'm not burned out by the job.<
>>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>You people are condoning driving under the influence and you're
>blaming me?  

LOL!  You're finished here -- thanks for playing!

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> And you are enabling this clown.   Now he can take what little money
> he has left and blow it on drugs.

Why are you so intent on referring to this as enabling?  Arrangements have
been made for people to donate directly to the vet.  The money would not go
to the OP.

> The poiknt to keep in mind with drug addicts and alcoholics is
> they are always "revovering" alcoholics.  They are always have an
> oppurtunity to fall off the wagon.  And many of them do.

This man has been clean for 10 years, and that is commendable.  From my
limited understanding, that takes an incredible amount of strength.  I hope
I never have to face anything like that.  Give the man a chance.  You are
essentially condemning him to a life sentence of never trusting anything he
(or others in his position) says simply because he refers to himself as
"recovering."

MaryL
zuzu22@webtv.net - 23 Feb 2004 15:52 GMT
I spoke to Diane this morning and she was very nice, accommodating, and
my donation was made with no problems, so everything is set and whoever
wants to donate to help Binky and his human should have smooth sailing.

Eddie, I hope you can get Binky in today and get some basic diagnostics
done so you have an idea of what's going on and how to proceed. I don't
know if our donations will cover the cost of everything, but hopefully
they will help and ease the burden a little. Please give us an update as
soon as you are able.

Megan

                                   
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The Magician - 23 Feb 2004 16:34 GMT
> I spoke to Diane this morning and she was very nice, accommodating, and
> my donation was made with no problems, so everything is set and whoever
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>
> Megan

I called Diane this morning too, and Binky has an appointment today at
2pm (EST). I don't know what they'll do for him, or where this will go...
but I'd just like to just say thank you again for everything you and the
rest of the wonderful people here are doing.
He kinda does better for a bit, and comes out of hiding, nibbles a bit of
food, looks for a little love..then goes and hides again.
But overall, nothing much has changed. I've been hand feeding him chicken
broth over the weekend just to keep him hydrated and to have some
nurishment
I'll keep you all posted as to what happens at the vet's as far as
diagnosis, etc.
I am truly amazed at the sheer kindness & lovingness of this group of
people here. Unlike our angry friend posting here...it restores my faith
in humanity.
And I'd like to especially thank you Meg, for getting so personally
involved and making arrangements with the vet.
People like you are rare these days...your a sweetheart.
Will keep you all updated as soon as I get some info myself.
love,
eddie
XMar - 23 Feb 2004 16:36 GMT
Eddie...do we need to know your last name in order to make sure that
Binky's account is credited...???

I want to pop a check in the mail today before it goes out...Im just in
CT so it should get there tomorrow/wed if I can get it out today

>>I spoke to Diane this morning and she was very nice, accommodating, and
>>my donation was made with no problems, so everything is set and whoever
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> love,
> eddie
Magic Mood Jeep? - 23 Feb 2004 16:44 GMT
If you go here

http://www.optonline.net/optipet/gallery?CID=feed%3DB-B%26newsChannel%3D18#

and look for Binky from Hoboken NJ, you will see Eddie's last name.  I would
post it here, but there are some nasty people floating around here (and we
all could name one in particular....)

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> Eddie...do we need to know your last name in order to make sure that
> Binky's account is credited...???
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> > love,
> > eddie
The Magician - 23 Feb 2004 17:54 GMT
> If you go here
>
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> post it here, but there are some nasty people floating around here (and we
> all could name one in particular....)

I don't worry about idiots like that and have no worry about posting my
name...

Eddie Gosik

my email is:

removemagi8@optonline.netremove
(take out the words "remove")

Again...thank you all soooo much!
Taking him up there now...
love,
eddie
'cedes - 24 Feb 2004 01:16 GMT
AWWWWWWWWWWWWW....Binky is a Black and White kitty!!!! What a DOLL. I will
call the vet tomorrow with my donation. I wonder if they can accept a
donation from PayPal???
> If you go here

http://www.optonline.net/optipet/gallery?CID=feed%3DB-B%26newsChannel%3D18#

> and look for Binky from Hoboken NJ, you will see Eddie's last name.  I would
> post it here, but there are some nasty people floating around here (and we
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> > > love,
> > > eddie
equalizer - 23 Feb 2004 17:00 GMT
>I spoke to Diane this morning and she was very nice, accommodating, and
>my donation was made with no problems, so everything is set and whoever
>wants to donate to help Binky and his human should have smooth sailing.

Can somebody please post the vet's phone number again? I can't find the original
post.

eq

>Eddie, I hope you can get Binky in today and get some basic diagnostics
>done so you have an idea of what's going on and how to proceed. I don't
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>
>- W.H. Murray
equalizer - 23 Feb 2004 17:26 GMT
>>I spoke to Diane this morning and she was very nice, accommodating, and
>>my donation was made with no problems, so everything is set and whoever
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>
>eq

Scratch that -- Google to the rescue.....

>>Eddie, I hope you can get Binky in today and get some basic diagnostics
>>done so you have an idea of what's going on and how to proceed. I don't
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>>
>>- W.H. Murray
'cedes - 24 Feb 2004 01:13 GMT
Megan, you RULE! Carol
> I spoke to Diane this morning and she was very nice, accommodating, and
> my donation was made with no problems, so everything is set and whoever
[quoted text clipped - 28 lines]
>
> - W.H. Murray
XMar - 23 Feb 2004 16:33 GMT
Today is Monday...Im willing to help out to...

Should I send a check to this address with a note that its ment for
Binky ...(eddies Binky)...do I need Eddie's last name to make sure its
HIS account that gets credited??

>>His name is Binky, and I took him here
>>today:
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>>Hoboken, NJ 07030
>>201-963-3604

> until Monday. She said that if anyone wants to make donations to wait
> until Monday to call and she should know more by then and be able to set
> something up.
zuzu22@webtv.net - 23 Feb 2004 18:52 GMT
>Should I send a check to this address
>with a note that its ment for Binky
>...(eddies Binky)...do I need Eddie's last
>name to make sure its HIS account that
>gets credited??

If you send a check make sure to put ATTN: Diane on the envelope and add
a note that it's for vet expenses for Eddie Gosik and Binky. I would
suggest you call her and let her know it's on its way and what amount
you will be donating so she'll know to expect it in the mail. Or, you
can call and make a payment by phone using a check card or credit card
if that's easier for you, just make sure to ask for Diane when you call
as she is the one handling this.

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The Magician - 23 Feb 2004 20:58 GMT
> If you send a check make sure to put ATTN: Diane on the envelope and add
> a note that it's for vet expenses for Eddie Gosik and Binky. I would
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>
> Megan

Thank you all for your kindhearted donations, words, and prayers.
It's with tear in my eyes, I am extremely sad to report that Binky was
diagnosed with what most likely would be cancer.
I took him today to see the senior vet at the Hoboken Animal Hospital,
and was told that going by what the other Doctor had diagnosed, and by
his 30 yrs in practice...the hard lumps in Binky's abdomen was most
likely cancer. He said that even if money was no object, he would have to
go thru a bunch of testing, xrays, bloodwork, chemothreapy regimes
(not sue if I spelled that right, cuz I can't think straight and can't
see too well thru my tears...forgive me...)and other treatmeants by them
and us. He said at best it might prolong his life for a bit longer, but
rarely does he see too many cats make it thru...and it wouldn't be a
pleasant short exsistence at that.
So I have come to the decision to put my little Binky to sleep.
I want to thank Megan especially for all her wonderful help on this
thread, for her kind words, generous, and coming to my defense.
I would also like to thank a Mr. Schneider I belive for his generousity  
as well. (Diane told me of your donations today, forgive me if I didn't
get your name right...I didn't recognize it, and don't know which
screenname that belongs to. I was really upset at the time and can't
remember everything tghat Diane said.)
I'd would also like to ask the rest of you to NOT donate anything to
Binky anymore...but to take whatever you had wanted to donate, and send
it to the Humane Society, or your local animal shelters, or any other
favorite animal help organizations.
I was going to post some pictures of Binky for you all to see on my
website...but wouldn't you know it...when it rains it pours...that was
shutdown last week because I owe them a renwal fee.
If I find a different way to post some pics, I will.
Forgive me if none of this makes sense or has typos...although I knew
deep down that it might come to this...being faced with it makes me numb.
I chose to keep him for another week, so that my daughter, and other
friends can come to say goodbye...and will let you all know of his
passing next week.
Thank you all again for your kindness, love, and unity.
Having you people in this world makes it a wonderful place.
God Bless you all...even you Nick Knight.
love,
eddie
MaryL - 23 Feb 2004 21:18 GMT
> Thank you all for your kindhearted donations, words, and prayers.
> It's with tear in my eyes, I am extremely sad to report that Binky was
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> love,
> eddie

Aw, Eddie, I am so sorry.  I was one of those who had planned to make a
small donation.  Have you received enough to cover expenses, including
euthanasia?  If not, I will send a donation despite this dreadful news.  If
expenses are covered, I will follow your excellent suggestion to donate to
an animal help organization.  In my case, I will donate to O'Malley because
that is the organization that is trying to find a home for the two blind
kittens I discussed on the health+behav group.

You are extremely generous ... and far more generous to Nick Knight than he
has any right to expect.

MaryL
The Magician - 23 Feb 2004 22:25 GMT
> Aw, Eddie, I am so sorry.  I was one of those who had planned to make a
> small donation.  Have you received enough to cover expenses, including
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>
> MaryL

Thank you MaryL, but after talking to Diane the office mgr....Megan and
Mr. Schneider's generous donations took care of the previous balance and
some of today's. So we only owe them $38.00 for today, then whatever they
charge for putting Binky to rest. I found out the original high fee of
$160. for euthanasia included cremation fees, etc.
Euthanasia only wil be $60., and Diane said not to worry about it, and
they would take post dated checks. So we'll be ok with that.
Thank you so much for your offer though.
I told them that I wanted lil Binky's remains, and I have an ornate box
that I will bury him in the yard outside our house.
Please don't mind me if I don't make too many posts here today...
I just feel like there's a huge concrete slab chained to my heart,
pulling me under water. I knew it might come to this...but as I look at
my poor little scrawny kitty, faced with what must come...I find it hard
to think, type...or even breathe.
love you all...
eddie
Magic Mood Jeep? - 23 Feb 2004 23:03 GMT
I know the pain, we lost a CRF kitty in December 2002 - and it was a hard
decision to make to end her suffering.... but I could tell by the look on
her face that it was time.  One thing that did help me was this poem, called
Rainbow Bridge: http://www.petloss.com/poems/maingrp/rainbowb.htm

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> > Aw, Eddie, I am so sorry.  I was one of those who had planned to make a
> > small donation.  Have you received enough to cover expenses, including
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> love you all...
> eddie