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Leather sofa & CATS?

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Stacey - 16 Feb 2004 00:15 GMT
I need help on this one big time! We have five indoors only cats.  They are
all front declawed.  Wife and I would love to have an Italian leather sofa.
So the question is will it survive  in our home? - The cats stay, no matter
what.
I'd appreciate hearing from anyone that has leather furniture and Kitties.
Thank You.
~*Connie*~ - 16 Feb 2004 00:18 GMT
i have five kitties, none are declawed, and a leather chair.  I keep their
nails trimmed.  I have a co-worker who also has five cats - all clawed -
and she just got a leather love seat, and she hasn't had much of an issue.
Will the sofa not have any scratches ever.. probably not.- and it probably
wont be the cat who puts the first one in anyway - but isn't that the charm
of leather, that lived in comfy look?

Just trim their back claws, and I don't expect you'll have much of a problem
at all.

> I need help on this one big time! We have five indoors only cats.  They are
> all front declawed.  Wife and I would love to have an Italian leather sofa.
> So the question is will it survive  in our home? - The cats stay, no matter
> what.
>  I'd appreciate hearing from anyone that has leather furniture and Kitties.
>  Thank You.
Earl Lewis - 16 Feb 2004 00:38 GMT
Connie,
My cat is de-clawed, BUT NOT MY ME!!! - he came to me that way.
Anyway, I curious about how you trim a cat's nails. I would not expect
a cat to stand calmly and submit to the procedure.

The vet told me I could inspect the cat's teeth, and showed me how.
She apparently doesn't understand that, while he is not at all vicious
or hard to handle, I don't have 2 or 3 people (or 6 hands)  to hold
the little devil while I gently pry his jaws open and peek in there.
Earl

>i have five kitties, none are declawed, and a leather chair.  I keep their
>nails trimmed.  I have a co-worker who also has five cats - all clawed -
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>Kitties.
>>  Thank You.
~*Connie*~ - 16 Feb 2004 11:58 GMT
To open his mouth, sit on the floor with him between your legs facing away
from you, so when he backs up, he can only back up into you.  grab his head
across the top, just behind the eyes, and hold the cheek bones.  lift his
nose up towards the ceiling.  once his nose is pointed at it, his jaw will
naturally open slightly.  use your other hand to slip a finger in on the
small teeth in the front between the canines.  If your kitty fights you, you
can slip one of your other fingers (from the hand holding the cheekbones) in
and take a small piece of his lip with you, to wedge between your finger and
his teeth, so when he starts biting down it hurts him.    If your just
checking his teeth, you can put your finger on the corner of his mouth and
pull back slightly, then lift up the rest of the lip.  Hard to translate
into words.. the key is to make the holding of the cat easy and stress free
for the kitty so he doesn't start fighting you till you start doing
something.  Praise him after every single attempt, and give a treat.  You
should start doing these things now, so when the time comes when you HAVE to
do it, its not a stressful event.

As to clipping.  I personally put the kitty in my lap, on his back, and use
arms and elbows to pin the cat in the position I want while trimming.  I
give lots of cuddles and kisses, so it seems a lot like a bad cuddle
session.  At work, I put the cat on the table, put my arm around the kitty's
chest, so the head is hanging over my arm, and work on one leg at a time.
again cooing and nuzzling the kitty from behind.  If the cat is obnoxious, I
have the owner coo as well.  You only have the back feet to do, so it should
be half as difficult.  however if you've never done it, start by just
playing with your kitties feet.. getting the claws to extend, and holding
them out for longer and longer periods, all while cooing and praising your
cat.  You'll need to hold them out for 10 seconds or so while you prepare to
cut, so in practice, work for that amount of time.   Cats nails are just
like fingernails only in a different shape.  It does not hurt to cut them,
but if you cut the quick (the pink stuff in the middle) the kitty will
bleed.  no biggie for the cat, but mess for you.

Good luck.
> Connie,
> My cat is de-clawed, BUT NOT MY ME!!! - he came to me that way.
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
> >Kitties.
> >>  Thank You.
Fat Freddy - 16 Feb 2004 15:15 GMT
> Wife and I would love to have an Italian leather
> sofa. So the question is will it survive  in our home?
> I'd appreciate hearing from anyone that has leather
> furniture and Kitties.

Kitty and Smokey have lived with us for two or three years. They never
scratched the leather sofa. Then Fluffy moved in. She scratches the
sofa, the leather footstool, and the corners or our mattress.

We make her stop when we catch her, and put her on the catnip
scratching box, which she likes, but she will always go back to the
sofa. If I ever get around to it, Ill buy or make her a scratching
post, but in the meantime the sofa is taking a beating, or rather, a
clawing.

I'm sure this is a minority opinion, but you know what? I really don't
care. It's true, the sofa cost a lot of money, but so what. When it's
all clawed up we will get another one, or maybe we will finally get
those Lazy Boy chairs we have talked about for years.
Binkertell The Unknown - 17 Feb 2004 00:32 GMT
I had some nice rail padding on my waterbed frame that got clawed up
pretty badly by back claws only. One of my cats also did a pretty good
job of chewing up her own neck with back claws for a while. (a stress
thing) So back claws sure can cause damage.

What I have used in  the past is a product  called "Soft Claws",
available at www.softclaws.com/ They are soft rubber caps that are
superglued on over the cat's natural claws. They are available in
several colors and sizes too. Hope this helps!

Bink
MaryL - 16 Feb 2004 00:32 GMT
> I need help on this one big time! We have five indoors only cats.  They are
> all front declawed.  Wife and I would love to have an Italian leather sofa.
> So the question is will it survive  in our home? - The cats stay, no matter
> what.
>  I'd appreciate hearing from anyone that has leather furniture and Kitties.
>  Thank You.

I have two cats, both with claws.  I used to travel with Holly before I
adopted Duffy, and my car has leather upholstery.  I would trim Holly's
claws before we started a trip and would spend several weeks with my sister,
then return home without another "pedicure" for Holly.  I did this for
several years (same car), and I do not have any scratches for scuffed areas
at all in the car.

MaryL
Dik F. Liu - 16 Feb 2004 01:55 GMT
>They are
>all front declawed.  Wife and I would love to have an Italian leather sofa.
>So the question is will it survive  in our home?

The sofa is already covered by a dead cow. So, I am not sure what you mean by
survive.

Dik
Fan - 17 Feb 2004 01:22 GMT
>I need help on this one big time! We have five indoors only cats.  They are
>all front declawed.  Wife and I would love to have an Italian leather sofa.
>So the question is will it survive  in our home? - The cats stay, no matter
>what.
> I'd appreciate hearing from anyone that has leather furniture and Kitties.
> Thank You.

I have what was, at one time, a rather expensive leather lazy-boy type
chair. The cats have destroyed the seat of it, not by scratching, but
by jumping from it to the ground. When they jump down, they sometimes
put their rear claws out and that will eventually puncture the
leather. Even if they are kept trimmed, it only takes one claw, one
time and you have a hole.

Multiply that by thousands of jumps and you have a mess. Add in an
occational flying jump to run after another cat and it makes it even
worse.

I have heard some people say they havn't had these problems, but I
certainly have. Another leather chair was similarly ruined a few years
ago. My personal experience and observations are that claws and
leather are a big risk. "Your mileage may vary."
Cheryl - 17 Feb 2004 02:42 GMT
2004:

> I have heard some people say they havn't had these problems, but I
> certainly have. Another leather chair was similarly ruined a few years
> ago. My personal experience and observations are that claws and
> leather are a big risk. "Your mileage may vary."

I have a leather sectional and my 3 don't like jumping on it unless there
is a blanket or pillow to sit on. I suppose it is too cold-feeling. They
have never tried to scratch any part of it, but I have lots of cat trees
and scratching posts. Plus, the leather sectional is downstairs, and they
spend most of the time upstairs. Downstairs also has an old recliner that
I've given them to scratch at will and they do.  yikes if they did that to
the good stuff, but they know it is theirs. Smart kitties.  :)

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M.C. Mullen - 17 Feb 2004 06:31 GMT
| >I need help on this one big time! We have five indoors only cats.  They are
| >all front declawed.  Wife and I would love to have an Italian leather sofa.
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| ago. My personal experience and observations are that claws and
| leather are a big risk. "Your mileage may vary."

Our leather sofa has one big scratch from a cat 30 years ago. It happened
soon after we got the sofa...
Nothing has happened since. But please do only get the sofa if you're
prepared to accept a scratch or two, otherwise all of you will suffer.

Micky has chosen an old Persian rug to scratch. I cannot stand the thing
anyway so that suits me.

Carola
rinn - 17 Feb 2004 18:04 GMT
We have a leather sofa & chair,  five cats and 100 claws.  They have
scratched it up a little, but mostly from jumping off of it, and using their
back claws.  I used to have it covered up with thick blankets, thinking that
would keep them from getting a grip on the leather, but then realized they
spent LESS time on it when there were no warm blankets to lay on.  I clean
and polish it about twice a month, and this keeps the scratches less
obvious.

> I need help on this one big time! We have five indoors only cats.  They are
> all front declawed.  Wife and I would love to have an Italian leather sofa.
> So the question is will it survive  in our home? - The cats stay, no matter
> what.
>  I'd appreciate hearing from anyone that has leather furniture and Kitties.
>  Thank You.
Wendy - 19 Feb 2004 00:24 GMT
We have a leather sofa & chair,  five cats and 100 claws.  They have
scratched it up a little, but mostly from jumping off of it, and using their
back claws.  I used to have it covered up with thick blankets, thinking that
would keep them from getting a grip on the leather, but then realized they
spent LESS time on it when there were no warm blankets to lay on.  I clean
and polish it about twice a month, and this keeps the scratches less
obvious.

I bought cat beds (washable fleece) for our cats to keep the cat hair off
the furniture. Surprise, surprise it worked. I put the bed on the couch and
one of our recliners and they sleep in their beds. One of them will
occasionally sleep on the back of the couch so I put a cotton comforter
there and they lay on that. Now I don't have to vacuum the couch daily :o)

W

> I need help on this one big time! We have five indoors only cats.  They
are
> all front declawed.  Wife and I would love to have an Italian leather
sofa.
> So the question is will it survive  in our home? - The cats stay, no
matter
> what.
>  I'd appreciate hearing from anyone that has leather furniture and
Kitties.
>  Thank You.
 
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