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Cat Forum / General Topics / October 2005Yeast infection in cats ears
My mother-in-law recently took 2 of her 10 cats to vet because ears were dirty and figured they had ear mites. Well the vet said they had a yeast infection and cleaned them and treated them. I had never heard of this and was wondering if anyone else had this problem before. http://members.aol.com/larrystark/ http://members.aol.com/larrystark/strays.htm  Signature********************************************************* . . E-mail address altered to foil spam. . Remove extra to reply via e-mail. . ********************************************************* > I had never heard of this and was wondering if anyone else had this problem > before. Our Basho developed a yeast infection in one ear a few years back. It had to be cleaned with a special solution every day, and medication poured in afterwards. This went on for about a week if I recall correctly. SignatureVictor M. Martinez Owned and operated by the Fantastic Seven (TM) Send your spam here: uce@ftc.gov Email me here: pistorLITTER@BOXaustin.rr.com I don't know what it is, maybe yeast infection, maybe mites (more likely), but all 6 of the cats are scratching their ears. And not just like someone would play with her hair,like they were digging for something. Signature"Other than telling us how to live, think, marry, pray, vote, invest, educate our children and now, die, I think the Republicans have done a fine job of getting government out of our personal lives." >> I had never heard of this and was wondering if anyone else had this >> problem before. > > Our Basho developed a yeast infection in one ear a few years back. It had > to be cleaned with a special solution every day, and medication poured in > afterwards. This went on for about a week if I recall correctly. > My mother-in-law recently took 2 of her 10 cats to vet because ears were > dirty and figured they had ear mites. Well the vet said they had a yeast > infection and cleaned them and treated them. > > I had never heard of this and was wondering if anyone else had this problem > before. I have a cat that used to have a chronic yeast infection of the ears. It's not uncommon and is often mistaken for mites. Your vet no doubt took a swab and checked it under a microscope which is the best to to diagnose yeast. My vet prescribed a ten day treatment with Otomax ointment which contains an anti-yeast medicine, an anti-bacterial medicine because yeast infections can leave the ears susceptible to secondary bacterial infections and an anti-inflammatory to reduce the itch and discomfort. The problem was that yeast spores are pervasive in the environment and if your cat is susceptible as mine was, it will just get reinfected over and over again. The solution was an acidic otic cleanser (ear wash) which used frequently makes the ear too acid for yeast to grow. Same principal as a vinegar douche to prevent vaginal yeast infections. I cleaned my cat's ears weekly with this cleanser and it prevented reinfection. Eventually she seemed to developed a natural resistance to yeast and after about 12 years of this, I'm down to once or twice a year ear cleaning. Whenever a brown gunk starts to form in her ears, I know it's time to clean them. Holding her down and squirting liquid into her ears is not her favorite thing nor mine, usually resulting in a lot of bad language by both of us and significant lost of blood on my part, but it's better then a trip to the vet. Lorenzo L. Love http://home.thegrid.net/~lllove "Cats are rather delicate creatures and they are subject to a good many ailments, but I never heard of one who suffered from insomnia." Joseph Wood Krutch HOWEDY whayface, > My mother-in-law recently took 2 of her 10 cats > to vet because ears were dirty and figured they > had ear mites. Well the vet said they had a yeast > infection and cleaned them and treated them. > > I had never heard of this SHORE you have, whayface. Yeast is what grows to make bread an beer, whayface. Yeast is every where. You don't GET SICK from it UNLESS you got a compromised immune system, whayface, like kats may get from having their claws cut off like HOWE you done to your own abused kitty kats despite your ADVICE on your kat lover's website not to do that, you freakin animal abusin hypocrite. Yeast infections are a STRESS INDUCED AUTO-IMMUNE DIS- EASE commonly called The Puppy Wizard's SYNDROME <{); ~ ) > > and was wondering if anyone else had this problem before. Yeah, most of the poster's here GOT IT, whayface. It's nice to know your critters are SAFE with you, what with you bein a Xian and a hard workin retired union man. You're a piece of garbage, whayface. The Amazing Puppy Wizard has PROVEN IT by QUOTING YOUR OWN WORDS: From: whayface <whayface7540...@yahoo.junk.com> Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2005 12:11:13 GMT Subject: Re: time to part with our cat...euthanasia? On Sun, 02 Oct 2005 04:09:56 GMT, "No More Retail" <nowaytos...@noway.com> wrote: > Did you take time to actually read the post this was > putting a cat down for inconvenience. This is what > I blasted you for the last part about if all else > comes down to it there is not if it comes down to it > there is always another way. At times it is not always possible to read prior posts because when people reply to them they do not always include them with their reply so they reply to what they are reading at the time. ============== Well then perhaps you shouldn't be puttin your doGgamened nose in where it don't belong if you wasn't followin the discussion you miserable lyin animal abusing punk thug coward: Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats.anecdotes From: whayface <whayface7540...@yahoo.junk.com> Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 13:30:09 GMT Subject: Re: Feliway expereience? On Fri, 14 Oct 2005 23:52:23 -0400, "Bill Stock" <M...@Privacy.net> wrote: >Just curious about your Feliway experiences? >Cleo is coming back from the big snip tomorrow, so I bought a couple of >Feliway diffusers in honour of her return. I thought it might help with her >testiness, especially since she will be under the weather for a few days. I >plugged them in tonight and the girls (Cali & Smokey) seemed a little >friskier than usual. But this could be due to their relief that Cleo is >absent. Cali went through this when Smokey was away for her snip. I have tried them and noticed no difference in the way my 4 acted. ========= OF CURSE NOT! IT WON'T WORK FOR ANIMAL ABUSERS. HOWEDY whayface, > On Thu, 11 Aug 2005 12:06:47 -0400, Kadaitcha Man <nos...@f.ck-off-and-die.com.invalid> > wrote: > >>My apologies for crossposting. EMBARRASSING as HEEL, AIN'T IT <{)' ~ ) > > >> I stupidly Old habits are HARD TO BREAK, unless you know HOWE, whayface <{); ~ } > > >> responded to flame bait You mean the INFORMATION which SCARES and EMBARRASESS you bums, eh whayface? > >> and didn't realize that the flamer The Amazing Puppy Wizard is NOT a "flamer", whayface, HE QUOTES HOWER Gang Of Lying Dog Abusing Chronic Acute LONG TERM INCURABLE MENTAL CASES POSTED CASE HISTORIES to IDENTIFY EXXXPOSE and DISCREDIT your METHODS ABUSES and LIES, whayface <{); ~ ) > > >>had added all these groups. Tsk tsk. > > Because Jerry Howe aka Asshowe is a well known > > net loon and k00k, he has damaged all the rec.pets.* > > groups and nobody wants to post there anymore. On accHOWENT of The Amazing Puppy Wizard has IDENTIFIED EXXXPOSED and DISCREDITED them by QUOTING THEIR OWN WORDS, isn't that correct, whayface. Know WHAAAT? The Amazing Puppy Wizard has YET to EXXXAMINE your own POSTED CASE HISTORY. HOWEver, UNLESS your reply was directed AT those who replied to The Amazing Puppy Wizard's PEER REVIEWED SCIENTIFIC DATA, then your own posted case history will PROVE YOU to be EITHER: 1. a dog abuser 2. a liar 3. a mental case. The Amazing Puppy Wizard will BET HIS LIFE you'll qualify on ALL THREE, wann SEE? > > Put this stupid idiot in your killfile Seems HOWER DOG LOVERS don't LIKE not hurtin dogs to train them, eh whayface? > > and do not reply to him. WHAAAT ARE you gonna SAY to The Amazing Puppy Wizard EXXXCEPT FOR "THANK YOU, The Amazing Puppy Wizard, your METHODS SAVED MY DOG'S LIFE. G-D BLESS YOU!" And then they NEVER post again, whayface <{); ~ ) > > >K-Man > And might I add ignore any post by others that > respond to his posts . INDEEDY. HOWEver, THAT COULD be taken two ways... From: whayface <whayface7540...@yahoo.junk.com> Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 14:00:15 GMT Subject: Re: My cat died while getting declawed!:-( = On Fri, 29 Jul 2005 11:19:08 GMT, "RichC" wrote: >> .........as I hate declawing I did it and they are now >> almost 3 years old and have a good indoor only home and [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > I agree with your thinking but why do you have a web page > that has "DON'T DECLAW YOUR CAT" on it? Well because if you read ALL OF MY PREVIOUS POST you would have seen that I prefer no declawing and none of mine are declawed but if it means keeping them alive I would choose declawing over death. I look at this declawing thing with a little more open mine then some people but would never declaw any of mine. Hopefully whoever gets mine when I am gone being as how I am in my 60s will not chop their toes off but if that is the only way they will take them well ---- :-( ============= Well whayface, DIDN'T TAKE LONG to DISCREDIT you as an animal abuser and hypocrite or LIAR in the BEHAVIORAL TEMINOLOGY, whayface, JUST LIKE HOWE The Amazing Puppy Wizard SEZ... The Amazing Puppy Wizard will BET HIS LIFE you'll qualify on ALL THREE, wann SEE? Wanna go DHOWEBLE OR NUTHIN on PROVING you a MENTAL CASE??? YOUR REPLY or NOT to THIS, will PROVE THAT, TOO, won't it. BWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAHAHAHHAHHAAA!!! From: "Dr.Carla,DVM" <carla.pfeif...@insightbb.com> Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 17:17:10 GMT Subject: Re: Trying to keep my dog's ears dry and free of infection Who is this supposed "puppy wizard" I wouldn't trust anything they print. Re: My cat died while getting declawed! :-( HOWEDY dra carla, dvm, Dr.Carla,DVM wrote: > 1 in 1,000 otherwise perfectly healthy animals HOWE COME "PERFECTLY HEALTHY ANIMALS" ARE BEING SURGICALLY MUTILATED BY ETHICKAL VETERINARIANS? > will die every year just from the normal effects of anesthesia. Since WHEN is anesthesia "NORMAL" for "PERFECTLY HEALTHY ANIMALS," dra carla, dvm? > This is the hardest thing we have to risk "WE", dra carla, dvm? You mean YOU RISK the LIVES of "PERFECTLY HEALTHY ANIMALS" comitting VETERINARY MALPRACTICE on them, DON'T YOU, dra carla, dvm... > each time our pets are put under for surgery. If ALL the "PERFECTLY HEALTHY ANIMALS" you RISK by UNNECESSARILY INAPUPRIATELY SURGICALLY MUTILATING them, THAT woudld DESTROY your PROFIT MARGINES, wouldn't it, dra carla, dvm <{); ~ ) > > I don't know what the ratio is O.K., dra carla, dvm, PERMIT The Amazing Puppy Wizard to ENLIGHTEN YOU: There are NO PERFECTLY HEALTHY ANIMALS who should be RISKING UNNECESSARY INAPUPRIATE SURGICAL MUTILATIONS at the hands of ETHICKAL VETERINARIANS who'll chop off body parts on accHOWENT of YOU DON'T KNOW NUTHING abHOWET HOWE to pupperly handle train and manage those INNOCENT VICTIMS of "THE HARDEST THING WE HAVE TO RISK," e.g. YOUR FINANCIAL HEELTH, dra carla, dvm <{); ~ ) > THOSE DEATHS are 100% VETERINARY MALPRACTICE. The Amazing Puppy Wizard INTENDS to IDENTIFY EXXXPOSE and DISCREDIT you and your ilk <{); ~ ) > > in people but its generally the same idea, PEOPLE can CHOOSE FOR THEMSELVES if THEY want to SUFFER THE RISKS of unnecessary surgical mutilations, dra carla, dvm <{): ~ ) > > that for absolutely no reason other than proper > anesthetic protocol a healthy patient can die. Are you BLAMING inapupriate administration of anesthesia for those UNNECESSARY INAPUPRIATE SURGICAL MUTILATIONS which comprise a HUGE % of YOUR INCOME, dra carla, dvm? > Cat's hearts are extremely small as you can infer > from the size of their chests. LikeWIZE your heart, as WE can PROVE by your irresponsible SURGICAL MUTILATIONS of "PERFECTLY HEELTHY ANIMALS," to SUPPORT YOURSELF in the manner in which you've become accustomed, dra carla, dvm <{); ~ ) > > Even if your cat had responded to the epi injection > she only had a 1 in 10 chance of surviving after cardiac > arrest. The kat was BROUGHT IN for DECLAWING, dra carla, dvm, as VETERINARY MALPRACTICE which has been PROVEN to CAUSE FEAR AGGRESSION and HOWEsbreaking problems in FORMERLY PERFECTLY HEELTHY VICTIMS of your MEDICAL MALPRACTICE, dra carla, dvm. The Amazing Puppy Wizard is fixin to DROP THE HAMMER on you and your industry wide MALPRACTICE, dra carla, dvm <{): ~ ) > > Also she would have been in the hospital for several > days fighting for life and still may not have made it. OTOH, she'd be PERFECTLY FINE at her own HOWES had your comrade in MALPRACTICE gave FULL DISCLOSURE and REFUSED to commit VETERINARY MALPRACTICE on this INNOCENT VICTIM of your GREED, ARROGANCE, and IGNORANCE, dra carl, veterinary MALPRACTICIONER <{); ~ ) > > I know these facts don't make your loss any easier to deal with. HOWEver, it doesn't SEEM to bother you, your BREAD an BUTTER RIDES on SURGICALLY MUTILATING FORMERLY HEELTHY INNOCENT DEFENSELESS CRITTERS, dra carla, veterinary MALPRACTICIONER. > Trust me TRUST YOU, dra carla? You're a THIEF, A LIAR, and MURDERER. > when I say your vet is very upset by this loss also. Yeah, it COULD EFFECT HIS BUSINESS, dra carla, veterinary MALPRACTICIONER EXXXTRAORDINAIRE <{); ~ ) > > There is nothing more heart-wrenching as a surgeon than > losing your patient. PARTICULARLY when IT WAS a "PERFECTLY HEELTHY CRITTER" pryor to your CUTTIN IT UP for PROFTIT, depsite KNOWING the RISK, TEMPERAMENT and HEELTH problems your RISKY MALPRACTICE is RESPONSIBLE FOR, dra carla, dvm <{); ~ ) > > My condolences. BWEEEEEEEEEAAAHAHAHHAHAAA!!! > > Aside from being completely heartbroken, I need to know > > since some people have started telling me that it sounds > > possibly more like incompetence. BET YOUR LIFE ON IT. You've been LIED TO and MISLED by UNETHICKAL VETERINARIANS who'll DO and SAY ANY THING to RIP YOU OFF for your HARD EARNED DOUGH, at the EXXXPENSE of your kat's LIFE, like HOWE dra carla, dvm PREFERS to CONDUCT BUSINESS <{): ~ ) > > > I know it won't bring my babygirl back, Well HOWE COME she was being SURGICALLY MUTILATED? > > but I need some opinions... That AIN'T a OPINION, it's PROVEN FACT. > > She was 3, and the only reason we decided to get her > > declawed was because we had tried almost every other > > type of training/alternative to keep it from furniture. NOT EVERY TYPE of ALTERNATIVE. You USED AVERSIVES, not training. > > Trust me when I say she could have all the furniture if > > she could come back... Are you WILLING to SUE your veterinarian for MALPRACTICE? The Amazing Puppy Wizard will EAGERLY offer EXXXPERT WITNESS TESTIMONY and GET YOU some JUSTICE. GUARANTEED. AND FOR FREE, to boot. > > At any rate, we paid to get the laser surgery because we > > wanted it to be as painless as possible, and paid to have > > her blood tested. > > The vet said basically that the surgery went according to > > protocol until they went to reviver her. She wouldn't respond. Well, so much for modern medecine. > > Then 3 different people tried to inject epinephrine into > > her heart, but that she must have had a small heart because > > they couldn't find it. THAT'S ABSURD. YOU COUNT RIBS AND JAB. > > This was at a supposed cat specialist clinic as well... BWEEEEEEEEAAHAHAHHAHAAA!!! > > we thought she was as safe as could be... INDEED... SHE WAS. SHE DIED TO ENRICH THE VET. > > It makes no sense, we adopted her from the Humane Society > > when she was 10 months old, and she had been spayed there. ANOTHER RISKY UNNECESSARY INAPUPRIATE MUTILATION. > > Ours does a good job, but they don't strike me as > > the type that would check a cat's heart size in order > > to get them spayed. ALL THEY WANT IS HOWER MONEY. > > I would especially appreciate any veterinarians > > to respond to this post. LikeWIZE... > > I know it won't bring her back, but if it sounds > > like they may have done something wrong I will > > be seriously pissed off! WOULD YOU SUE THEM IF YOU COULD PROVE surgically mutilating kat's paws is UNETHICKAL MUTILATION? > > I just want my girl back. PERHAPS your vet's office can REPLACE IT? > > I know she can't, but... you know. :-( And NHOWE, so you you... > > --Matt dra carla D.V.M. SEZ: Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 17:17:10 GMT Subject: Re: Trying to keep my dog's ears dry and free of infection Who is this supposed "puppy wizard" I wouldn't trust anything they print. LIKE THIS: "It is NO WONDER that the marked changes in deviant behavior of children can be achieved through brief, simple educative routines with their mothers which modify the mother's social behaviors shaping the child (Whaler, 1966). Some clinics have reported ELIMINATION ofthe need for child THERAPY through changing the clinical emphasis from clinical to parental HANDLING of the child (Szrynski 1965). A large number of cases improved sufficiently after preliminary contact with parents that NO treatment of children was required, and almost ALL cases SHOWE a remarkably shortened period for therapy. Quite severe cases of anorexia nervosa have been treated in own to five months by simply REPLACING the parents temporarily with EFFUSIVELY LOVING SUBSTITUTES (Groen, 1966)." "Despite Skinner's clear denunciation of "negative reinforcement" (1958) NEARLY EVER LEARNING THEORY model involves the USE OF PUNISHMENT. Of curse, Skinner has never to my knowledge, demonstrated HOWE we escape the phenomenon that an expected reward not received is experienced as a punishment and can produce extensive and persistent aggression (Azrin et al, 1966)." ALL Temperament and Behavior Problems And 90% Of DIS-EASE Are CAUSED BY MISHANDLING. THAT'S GOOD! THAT MEANS We can CURE ALL Temperament And Behavior Problems And 90% Of DIS-EASE NEARLY INSTANTLY Simply By DOING EXXXACTLY, PRECISELY, OPPOSITE Of HOWE We've Been TAUGHT By UNIVERSITY TRAINED Behaviorists > My mother-in-law recently took 2 of her 10 cats to vet because ears were > dirty and figured they had ear mites. Well the vet said they had a yeast > infection and cleaned them and treated them. > > I had never heard of this and was wondering if anyone else had this problem > before. We see it quite a bit in shelters, though we tend to treat various ear things (I'd have to check for specifics) with drops - either baytril/dex/saline drops or more often dexamethasone propylene glycol drops. : > My mother-in-law recently took 2 of her 10 cats to vet because ears were : > dirty and figured they had ear mites. Well the vet said they had a yeast [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] : things (I'd have to check for specifics) with drops - either : baytril/dex/saline drops or more often dexamethasone propylene glycol drops. Micky had it, and it takes a vet to get rid of it. Carola HOWEDY whayface, > My mother-in-law recently took 2 of her 10 cats > to vet because ears were dirty and figured they > had ear mites. Well the vet said they had a yeast > infection and cleaned them and treated them. > I had never heard of this SHORE you have, whayface. Yeast is what grows to make bread an beer, whayface. Yeast is every where. You don't GET SICK from it UNLESS you got a compromised immune system, whayface, like kats may get from having their claws cut off like HOWE you done to your own abused kitty kats despite your ADVICE on your kat lover's website not to do that, you freakin animal abusin hypocrite. Yeast infections are a STRESS INDUCED AUTO-IMMUNE DIS- EASE commonly called The Puppy Wizard's SYNDROME <{); ~ ) > You'll SEE that's TRUE if you look up the POSTED CASE HISTORIES of the animal abusers who've replied to your post who GOT THE SAME SAME SAME SAME PROBLEM for the SAME SAME SAME SAME REASON, whayface. OtherWIZE, EVERYWON WOULD HAVE YEAST EAR INFECTIONS and WE'D ALL BE LIVIN ON STEROIDS like EVERYWON'S KATS and DOGS who've GOT THE SAME PROBLEM. The Puppy Wizard's SYNDROME ONLY HAPPENS to ABUSED CRITTERS. > and was wondering if anyone else had this problem before. Yeah, most of the poster's here GOT IT, whayface. It's nice to know your critters are SAFE with you, what with you bein a Xian and a hard workin retired union man. You're a piece of garbage, whayface. The Amazing Puppy Wizard has PROVEN IT by QUOTING YOUR OWN WORDS: From: whayface <whayface7540...@yahoo.junk.com> Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2005 12:11:13 GMT Subject: Re: time to part with our cat...euthanasia? On Sun, 02 Oct 2005 04:09:56 GMT, "No More Retail" <nowaytos...@noway.com> wrote: > Did you take time to actually read the post this was > putting a cat down for inconvenience. This is what > I blasted you for the last part about if all else > comes down to it there is not if it comes down to it > there is always another way. At times it is not always possible to read prior posts because when people reply to them they do not always include them with their reply so they reply to what they are reading at the time. ============== Well then perhaps you shouldn't be puttin your doGgamened nose in where it don't belong if you wasn't followin the discussion you miserable lyin animal abusing punk thug coward: Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats.anecdotes From: whayface <whayface7540...@yahoo.junk.com> Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 13:30:09 GMT Subject: Re: Feliway expereience? On Fri, 14 Oct 2005 23:52:23 -0400, "Bill Stock" <M...@Privacy.net> wrote: >Just curious about your Feliway experiences? >Cleo is coming back from the big snip tomorrow, so I bought a couple of [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >friskier than usual. But this could be due to their relief that Cleo is >absent. Cali went through this when Smokey was away for her snip. I have tried them and noticed no difference in the way my 4 acted. ========= OF CURSE NOT! IT WON'T WORK FOR ANIMAL ABUSERS. HOWEDY whayface, > On Thu, 11 Aug 2005 12:06:47 -0400, Kadaitcha Man <nos...@f.ck-off-and-die.com.invalid> > wrote: > >>My apologies for crossposting. EMBARRASSING as HEEL, AIN'T IT <{)' ~ ) > > >> I stupidly Old habits are HARD TO BREAK, unless you know HOWE, whayface <{); ~ } > > >> responded to flame bait You mean the INFORMATION which SCARES and EMBARRASESS you bums, eh whayface? > >> and didn't realize that the flamer The Amazing Puppy Wizard is NOT a "flamer", whayface, HE QUOTES HOWER Gang Of Lying Dog Abusing Chronic Acute LONG TERM INCURABLE MENTAL CASES POSTED CASE HISTORIES to IDENTIFY EXXXPOSE and DISCREDIT your METHODS ABUSES and LIES, whayface <{); ~ ) > > >>had added all these groups. Tsk tsk. > > Because Jerry Howe aka Asshowe is a well known > > net loon and k00k, he has damaged all the rec.pets.* > > groups and nobody wants to post there anymore. On accHOWENT of The Amazing Puppy Wizard has IDENTIFIED EXXXPOSED and DISCREDITED them by QUOTING THEIR OWN WORDS, isn't that correct, whayface. Know WHAAAT? The Amazing Puppy Wizard has YET to EXXXAMINE your own POSTED CASE HISTORY. HOWEver, UNLESS your reply was directed AT those who replied to The Amazing Puppy Wizard's PEER REVIEWED SCIENTIFIC DATA, then your own posted case history will PROVE YOU to be EITHER: 1. a dog abuser 2. a liar 3. a mental case. The Amazing Puppy Wizard will BET HIS LIFE you'll qualify on ALL THREE, wann SEE? > > Put this stupid idiot in your killfile Seems HOWER DOG LOVERS don't LIKE not hurtin dogs to train them, eh whayface? > > and do not reply to him. WHAAAT ARE you gonna SAY to The Amazing Puppy Wizard EXXXCEPT FOR "THANK YOU, The Amazing Puppy Wizard, your METHODS SAVED MY DOG'S LIFE. G-D BLESS YOU!" And then they NEVER post again, whayface <{); ~ ) > > >K-Man > And might I add ignore any post by others that > respond to his posts . INDEEDY. HOWEver, THAT COULD be taken two ways... From: whayface <whayface7540...@yahoo.junk.com> Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 14:00:15 GMT Subject: Re: My cat died while getting declawed!:-( = On Fri, 29 Jul 2005 11:19:08 GMT, "RichC" wrote: >> .........as I hate declawing I did it and they are now >> almost 3 years old and have a good indoor only home and >> are ALIVE through front clawless. >> Can see all our babies at: >> http://members.aol.com/larrystark/>> > I agree with your thinking but why do you have a web page > that has "DON'T DECLAW YOUR CAT" on it? Well because if you read ALL OF MY PREVIOUS POST you would have seen that I prefer no declawing and none of mine are declawed but if it means keeping them alive I would choose declawing over death. I look at this declawing thing with a little more open mine then some people but would never declaw any of mine. Hopefully whoever gets mine when I am gone being as how I am in my 60s will not chop their toes off but if that is the only way they will take them well ---- :-( ============= Well whayface, DIDN'T TAKE LONG to DISCREDIT you as an animal abuser and hypocrite or LIAR in the BEHAVIORAL TEMINOLOGY, whayface, JUST LIKE HOWE The Amazing Puppy Wizard SEZ... The Amazing Puppy Wizard will BET HIS LIFE you'll qualify on ALL THREE, wann SEE? Wanna go DHOWEBLE OR NUTHIN on PROVING you a MENTAL CASE??? YOUR REPLY or NOT to THIS, will PROVE THAT, TOO, won't it. BWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAHAHAHHAHHAAA!!! From: "Dr.Carla,DVM" <carla.pfeif...@insightbb.com> Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 17:17:10 GMT Subject: Re: Trying to keep my dog's ears dry and free of infection Who is this supposed "puppy wizard" I wouldn't trust anything they print. Re: My cat died while getting declawed! :-( HOWEDY dra carla, dvm, Dr.Carla,DVM wrote: > 1 in 1,000 otherwise perfectly healthy animals HOWE COME "PERFECTLY HEALTHY ANIMALS" ARE BEING SURGICALLY MUTILATED BY ETHICKAL VETERINARIANS? > will die every year just from the normal effects of anesthesia. Since WHEN is anesthesia "NORMAL" for "PERFECTLY HEALTHY ANIMALS," dra carla, dvm? > This is the hardest thing we have to risk "WE", dra carla, dvm? You mean YOU RISK the LIVES of "PERFECTLY HEALTHY ANIMALS" comitting VETERINARY MALPRACTICE on them, DON'T YOU, dra carla, dvm... > each time our pets are put under for surgery. If ALL the "PERFECTLY HEALTHY ANIMALS" you RISK by UNNECESSARILY INAPUPRIATELY SURGICALLY MUTILATING them, THAT woudld DESTROY your PROFIT MARGINES, wouldn't it, dra carla, dvm <{); ~ ) > > I don't know what the ratio is O.K., dra carla, dvm, PERMIT The Amazing Puppy Wizard to ENLIGHTEN YOU: There are NO PERFECTLY HEALTHY ANIMALS who should be RISKING UNNECESSARY INAPUPRIATE SURGICAL MUTILATIONS at the hands of ETHICKAL VETERINARIANS who'll chop off body parts on accHOWENT of YOU DON'T KNOW NUTHING abHOWET HOWE to pupperly handle train and manage those INNOCENT VICTIMS of "THE HARDEST THING WE HAVE TO RISK," e.g. YOUR FINANCIAL HEELTH, dra carla, dvm <{); ~ ) > THOSE DEATHS are 100% VETERINARY MALPRACTICE. The Amazing Puppy Wizard INTENDS to IDENTIFY EXXXPOSE and DISCREDIT you and your ilk <{); ~ ) > > in people but its generally the same idea, PEOPLE can CHOOSE FOR THEMSELVES if THEY want to SUFFER THE RISKS of unnecessary surgical mutilations, dra carla, dvm <{): ~ ) > > that for absolutely no reason other than proper > anesthetic protocol a healthy patient can die. Are you BLAMING inapupriate administration of anesthesia for those UNNECESSARY INAPUPRIATE SURGICAL MUTILATIONS which comprise a HUGE % of YOUR INCOME, dra carla, dvm? > Cat's hearts are extremely small as you can infer > from the size of their chests. LikeWIZE your heart, as WE can PROVE by your irresponsible SURGICAL MUTILATIONS of "PERFECTLY HEELTHY ANIMALS," to SUPPORT YOURSELF in the manner in which you've become accustomed, dra carla, dvm <{); ~ ) > > Even if your cat had responded to the epi injection > she only had a 1 in 10 chance of surviving after cardiac > arrest. The kat was BROUGHT IN for DECLAWING, dra carla, dvm, as VETERINARY MALPRACTICE which has been PROVEN to CAUSE FEAR AGGRESSION and HOWEsbreaking problems in FORMERLY PERFECTLY HEELTHY VICTIMS of your MEDICAL MALPRACTICE, dra carla, dvm. The Amazing Puppy Wizard is fixin to DROP THE HAMMER on you and your industry wide MALPRACTICE, dra carla, dvm <{): ~ ) > > Also she would have been in the hospital for several > days fighting for life and still may not have made it. OTOH, she'd be PERFECTLY FINE at her own HOWES had your comrade in MALPRACTICE gave FULL DISCLOSURE and REFUSED to commit VETERINARY MALPRACTICE on this INNOCENT VICTIM of your GREED, ARROGANCE, and IGNORANCE, dra carl, veterinary MALPRACTICIONER <{); ~ ) > > I know these facts don't make your loss any easier to deal with. HOWEver, it doesn't SEEM to bother you, your BREAD an BUTTER RIDES on SURGICALLY MUTILATING FORMERLY HEELTHY INNOCENT DEFENSELESS CRITTERS, dra carla, veterinary MALPRACTICIONER. > Trust me TRUST YOU, dra carla? You're a THIEF, A LIAR, and MURDERER. > when I say your vet is very upset by this loss also. Yeah, it COULD EFFECT HIS BUSINESS, dra carla, veterinary MALPRACTICIONER EXXXTRAORDINAIRE <{); ~ ) > > There is nothing more heart-wrenching as a surgeon than > losing your patient. PARTICULARLY when IT WAS a "PERFECTLY HEELTHY CRITTER" pryor to your CUTTIN IT UP for PROFTIT, depsite KNOWING the RISK, TEMPERAMENT and HEELTH problems your RISKY MALPRACTICE is RESPONSIBLE FOR, dra carla, dvm <{); ~ ) > > My condolences. BWEEEEEEEEEAAAHAHAHHAHAAA!!! > > Aside from being completely heartbroken, I need to know > > since some people have started telling me that it sounds > > possibly more like incompetence. BET YOUR LIFE ON IT. You've been LIED TO and MISLED by UNETHICKAL VETERINARIANS who'll DO and SAY ANY THING to RIP YOU OFF for your HARD EARNED DOUGH, at the EXXXPENSE of your kat's LIFE, like HOWE dra carla, dvm PREFERS to CONDUCT BUSINESS <{): ~ ) > > > I know it won't bring my babygirl back, Well HOWE COME she was being SURGICALLY MUTILATED? > > but I need some opinions... That AIN'T a OPINION, it's PROVEN FACT. > > She was 3, and the only reason we decided to get her > > declawed was because we had tried almost every other > > type of training/alternative to keep it from furniture. NOT EVERY TYPE of ALTERNATIVE. You USED AVERSIVES, not training. > > Trust me when I say she could have all the furniture if > > she could come back... Are you WILLING to SUE your veterinarian for MALPRACTICE? The Amazing Puppy Wizard will EAGERLY offer EXXXPERT WITNESS TESTIMONY and GET YOU some JUSTICE. GUARANTEED. AND FOR FREE, to boot. > > At any rate, we paid to get the laser surgery because we > > wanted it to be as painless as possible, and paid to have > > her blood tested. > > The vet said basically that the surgery went according to > > protocol until they went to reviver her. She wouldn't respond. Well, so much for modern medecine. > > Then 3 different people tried to inject epinephrine into > > her heart, but that she must have had a small heart because > > they couldn't find it. THAT'S ABSURD. YOU COUNT RIBS AND JAB. > > This was at a supposed cat specialist clinic as well... BWEEEEEEEEAAHAHAHHAHAAA!!! > > we thought she was as safe as could be... INDEED... SHE WAS. SHE DIED TO ENRICH THE VET. > > It makes no sense, we adopted her from the Humane Society > > when she was 10 months old, and she had been spayed there. ANOTHER RISKY UNNECESSARY INAPUPRIATE MUTILATION. > > Ours does a good job, but they don't strike me as > > the type that would check a cat's heart size in order > > to get them spayed. ALL THEY WANT IS HOWER MONEY. > > I would especially appreciate any veterinarians > > to respond to this post. LikeWIZE... > > I know it won't bring her back, but if it sounds > > like they may have done something wrong I will > > be seriously pissed off! WOULD YOU SUE THEM IF YOU COULD PROVE surgically mutilating kat's paws is UNETHICKAL MUTILATION? > > I just want my girl back. PERHAPS your vet's office can REPLACE IT? > > I know she can't, but... you know. :-( And NHOWE, so you you... > > --Matt dra carla D.V.M. SEZ: Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 17:17:10 GMT Subject: Re: Trying to keep my dog's ears dry and free of infection Who is this supposed "puppy wizard" I wouldn't trust anything they print. LIKE THIS: "It is NO WONDER that the marked changes in deviant behavior of children can be achieved through brief, simple educative routines with their mothers which modify the mother's social behaviors shaping the child (Whaler, 1966). Some clinics have reported ELIMINATION ofthe need for child THERAPY through changing the clinical emphasis from clinical to parental HANDLING of the child (Szrynski 1965). A large number of cases improved sufficiently after preliminary contact with parents that NO treatment of children was required, and almost ALL cases SHOWE a remarkably shortened period for therapy. Quite severe cases of anorexia nervosa have been treated in own to five months by simply REPLACING the parents temporarily with EFFUSIVELY LOVING SUBSTITUTES (Groen, 1966)." "Despite Skinner's clear denunciation of "negative reinforcement" (1958) NEARLY EVER LEARNING THEORY model involves the USE OF PUNISHMENT. Of curse, Skinner has never to my knowledge, demonstrated HOWE we escape the phenomenon that an expected reward not received is experienced as a punishment and can produce extensive and persistent aggression (Azrin et al, 1966)." ALL Temperament and Behavior Problems And 90% Of DIS-EASE Are CAUSED BY MISHANDLING. THAT'S GOOD! THAT MEANS We can CURE ALL Temperament And Behavior Problems And 90% Of DIS-EASE NEARLY INSTANTLY Simply By DOING EXXXACTLY, PRECISELY, OPPOSITE Of HOWE We've Been TAUGHT By UNIVERSITY TRAINED Behaviorists |
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