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meee - 21 Sep 2005 11:18 GMT
Hi, this is me again, jasmine is started to look decidedly pregnant; before
anyone flames me for not desexing my cat, i've already been through this
with phil & others....if you still feel morally outraged be my guest. Anyway
the reality is, she's bin knocked up, her belly is growing, her teats are
visible, she's hanging around me meowing and looking at me as if it's all my
fault ( I know, I know, it is, but anyway). She's inspecting cupboards,
lying around a lot, and behaving in a very grumpy, I'm miserable and
everyone else is gonna know it kinda way. How do I know when she's going to
drop them? and how soon after she has had the kittens can we have her
desexed? I'm probably going to keep one of the kittens ( my hubby says no,
but i know when they're born *he'll* be picking which one!!!) I'm thinking
of keeping a boy and having him neutered too-boys are cheaper I believe.
John Doe - 21 Sep 2005 12:40 GMT
> Hi, this is me again, jasmine is started to look decidedly
> pregnant; before anyone flames me for not desexing my cat,

You mean not having it spayed and letting it outside.

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Abe - 21 Sep 2005 13:18 GMT
>> Hi, this is me again, jasmine is started to look decidedly
>> pregnant; before anyone flames me for not desexing my cat,
>You mean not having it spayed and letting it outside.
That was helpful-NOT. How about answering the question, which was how
to tell when the cat will be having her kittens? Or would you rather
just make idle and obvious comments that help no one?
223rem - 21 Sep 2005 14:19 GMT
>>Hi, this is me again, jasmine is started to look decidedly
>>pregnant; before anyone flames me for not desexing my cat,
>
> You mean not having it spayed and letting it outside.

Yes, castrate, declaw, and never allow them to enjoy
fresh air and sunshine.
Your cats must be very happy.
rpl - 21 Sep 2005 15:48 GMT
>>> Hi, this is me again, jasmine is started to look decidedly
>>> pregnant; before anyone flames me for not desexing my cat,
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> fresh air and sunshine.
> Your cats must be very happy.

Declawing is for the convenience of a poor owner; neutering is for the
good of society in general (has nothing to do with ownership).

Yes there's certainly a balance point where cats kept as pets plus feral
cats a community can support equals the amount of cats.  If your
community has reached that and there's no cats in shelters,
congratulations and do tell.

Pat
whayface - 21 Sep 2005 13:59 GMT
>Hi, this is me again, jasmine is started to look decidedly pregnant; before
>anyone flames me for not desexing my cat, i've already been through this
>with phil & others....

Congrats on the future birth of you grand-furbabies.

As for "desexing" Jasmine - things hapen.  As long as you find then a good home and the
babies are well taken care of.

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Wendy - 21 Sep 2005 14:40 GMT
> Hi, this is me again, jasmine is started to look decidedly pregnant;
> before
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> but i know when they're born *he'll* be picking which one!!!) I'm thinking
> of keeping a boy and having him neutered too-boys are cheaper I believe.

If you have no idea when the cat got pregnant then a vet will have to
examine her to give you any kind of accurate idea when she will be due. I
hope you're keeping her inside until after she has the kittens and is
spayed. You really don't want her having the kittens outside somewhere.

You can have her spayed once the kittens are weaned. Here again the vet will
best be able to advise you.

If the cost difference between neutering a male and spaying a female is an
issue, are you sure you can afford to keep any of the kittens?

W
meee - 23 Sep 2005 11:07 GMT
> > Hi, this is me again, jasmine is started to look decidedly pregnant;
> > before
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>
> W

I had a financial problem desexing Jas because shortly after she walked into
our lives we moved house from the country to the city, to access education
and jobs not available in the country, so we don't have financial
difficulties as much. Now both my husband and I can get jobs, as I can for
the first time access childcare for my kiddies, and our finances will
stretch once more to proper vet care. Unfortunately our finance problem
coincided with Jasmine's arrival. Vets in the city are also cheaper than
country vets- supply & demand. Don't worry, I wouldn't consider getting an
animal unless I could care for it. Jas was not a 'planned baby', but welcome
nonetheless. Thanks for your concern, and I hope my answer satisfied you. I
am considering not keeping any kittens...though I'll have to hope me & hubby
can resist the 'cute' impulse. It's ahrd to say, because sometimes, you just
bond with an animal, and there's not much you can do. If all goes as planned
I'll find good homes for them.
Wendy - 23 Sep 2005 14:23 GMT
>> > Hi, this is me again, jasmine is started to look decidedly pregnant;
>> > before
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> planned
> I'll find good homes for them.

If you are really into little kittens you could always volunteer with a
local rescue group to foster pregnant moms and kittens.
Topaz - 23 Sep 2005 18:55 GMT
> If you are really into little kittens you could always volunteer with a
> local rescue group to foster pregnant moms and kittens.

What a great idea! That way "meee" would not be adding cats to a world
already overpopulated with cats to the point that hundreds of thousands
of cats and kittens are executed in this country alone every week!

You are so smart.
meee - 24 Sep 2005 05:46 GMT
> >> > Hi, this is me again, jasmine is started to look decidedly pregnant;
> >> > before
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> If you are really into little kittens you could always volunteer with a
> local rescue group to foster pregnant moms and kittens.

That is a good idea wendy- we have two shelters up here, the young animal
protection society and the rspca. i will see how we go with this first
litter, as i have toddlers, they are very good, but i want to make sure
first. I have fostered a couple of kittens i rescued, but they were too far
gone by the time i got them, and i didn't have access to proper medication
and help, so unfortunately they didn't make it. it was so sad, they were
beautiful little babies.
mlbriggs - 21 Sep 2005 18:55 GMT
> Hi, this is me again, jasmine is started to look decidedly pregnant;
> before anyone flames me for not desexing my cat, i've already been through
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> one!!!) I'm thinking of keeping a boy and having him neutered too-boys are
> cheaper I believe.

IMHO you will probably have more enjoyment than you ever believed.
Prepare two or three boxes for hidey-holes and let her choose where she
wants to have the babies.  You will have trouble parting with any of them.
Follow Ted's advice on subsequent spaying.  Best of luck.   MLB
meee - 23 Sep 2005 10:03 GMT
> > Hi, this is me again, jasmine is started to look decidedly pregnant;
> > before anyone flames me for not desexing my cat, i've already been through
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> wants to have the babies.  You will have trouble parting with any of them.
>  Follow Ted's advice on subsequent spaying.  Best of luck.   MLB

As you said...I'm going to have a lot of fun!! This is our first litter of
kittens so I can't wait...I would like to (eventually) breed Siamese and
Bombays, so hopefully I will learn  a bit, and convince hubby how much fun
it would be!!! i will have a lot of trouble letting them go, especially if
they're as adorable as she is. I was thinking of keeping one, but I think
i'll let them go, as I'v found out there's a siamese breeder 1 hour from
here...so I'm looking at their photos on the net and drooling. But I'm going
to have trouble with hubby I think....every time his sister had kittens,
we'd end up with one!!! Maybe he won't be so hard to convince on the
breeding scheme after all...
MarAzul - 23 Sep 2005 04:18 GMT
> Hi, this is me again, jasmine is started to look decidedly pregnant;
> before
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> but i know when they're born *he'll* be picking which one!!!) I'm thinking
> of keeping a boy and having him neutered too-boys are cheaper I believe.

A cat's gestation period is approximatly 60 days. As one of the other
posters said, if you don't know when she concieved, you'll need to take her
to the vet and they can look her over. An ultrasound evaluation can be
reliably done at 21 days and an x-ray can be safely taken after 45 days.
Again, the vet will have to use their best judgement as to how far along she
is.

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jacquie0 - 23 Sep 2005 16:47 GMT
>>Hi, this is me again, jasmine is started to look decidedly pregnant;
>>before
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> Again, the vet will have to use their best judgement as to how far along she
> is.

A cats gestation period is 63 - 65 days.
If you do not want to take her to the vet to be xrayed, you will be able
to tell when she is ready to deliver her kittens by some of her actions.
MOST females will look for a dark quiet place to have their young. She
could also follow you everywhere because she might not want to be alone
during her delivery. You should be able to see that her belly has
dropped significantly prior to her delivering her young. She will wash
herself constantly and will wash your hands if you try to pet her.
Sometimes they can be quite vocal just before they have their litters,
and many will not eat their food for 12 hours before delivery.
Personally, I would take her to the vet for the xrays so that you know
100% when she will have them. The vet can also arrange for an
"emergency" situation in case your queen is having problems during the
delivery.
Just so that you know, most queens will have their kittens during the
middle of the night. (2:00am or so).
 
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