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The Cunning Linguist :Þ - 16 Sep 2005 01:10 GMT
Are Animals Being Euthanized?

There are erroneous rumors spreading on the Internet that animals in
Louisiana are being euthanized en masse. This is absolutely false. Why would
anybody expend so much effort to rescue these animals only to turn around
and euthanize them? A few animals have been euthanized because of severe
health problems. The decision to euthanize is taken by the veterinarians who
are treating the animals at the facility.

Currently, the disposition of the animals-as well as the ability of
veterinarians to practice on site-is determined solely at the discretion of
the Louisiana state veterinarian. Similarly, animals who require euthanasia
in Mississippi or any temporary animal shelter/holding facility in the Gulf
Coast disaster area will only be euthanized after a veterinarian has
determined that it is the best course of action for that animal.

Misinformation about access to the Gonzales facility and the care the
animals are receiving is being posted on certain websites. If you want to
help animals get the desperate attention they need, please do not forward
such rumors to The HSUS. Receiving and responding to rumors is a waste of
our scarce human resources at our Headquarters and in the field who are
focused solely on saving animals' lives.
alpha© - 16 Sep 2005 13:17 GMT
>Are Animals Being Euthanized?
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>health problems. The decision to euthanize is taken by the veterinarians who
>are treating the animals at the facility.

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I agree 100%.  There is an overabundance of miss-information about the
pet rescue.  Last weekend we saw the many rescue organizations in
action.

We had the opportunity to volunteer last weekend at the Lamar-Dixon
Expo center and what we saw was many, many, rescued pets that were
being vet checked, cleaned, vaccinated, micro chipped, crated, fed and
watered.  

Each barn was then assigned volunteers who would clean the crates,
walk the dogs, feed and water.

The pets were resting comfortably and responding to those of us
helping out.  

The many organizations working together were doing a great job in
helping those animals out.

I've posted a narrative and photos of the Gonzales, LA effort on our
web site.  http://alspaugh.org  Click on the Red Katrina Pet Rescue at
the top of the page.
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Barrnabas Collins - 16 Sep 2005 18:05 GMT
>There are erroneous rumors spreading on the Internet that animals in
>Louisiana are being euthanized en masse.
There are an estimated 60,000+ homeless pets in the region, some
are working feverishly to rescue them.   I have heard of no RELIABLE
reports of aniamls being euthanized.  (That being said who knows how
many were killed by the storm.  Hopefully like the Tsumami the
animals sensed the disaster coming and fled the danger.  As a result
very few animals died in the Tsunami.)
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Daniel Ganek - 16 Sep 2005 18:48 GMT
>>There are erroneous rumors spreading on the Internet that animals in
>>Louisiana are being euthanized en masse.
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> very few animals died in the Tsunami.)
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The animals that fled in the tsunami were wild animals. I seriously
doubt that very many pets fled in NO. Also note that the flooding was
due to the breaks in the levees not the storm. The animals wouldn't
have sense that.

/dan
Barrnabas Collins - 17 Sep 2005 03:27 GMT
>The animals that fled in the tsunami were wild animals. I seriously
>doubt that very many pets fled in NO. Also note that the flooding was
>due to the breaks in the levees not the storm. The animals wouldn't
>have sense that.
Wrong. Much of the flooding and damage occurred when
the tidal surge from a CATEGORY 5 HURRICANE hit the Louisianna/
Alabama/Mississippi/ coast.   The Levee birak only compounded the
problem.   It was the tidal surge that desimated
Lousianna/Mississippi/Alabama.   Go read up on Category 5 storms
and pay particular attention to the section Tidal Surge.

As far as animals who died, it is too earyl to tell.  (With the
Tsunami we know the animals survived after the flood
water receeded.   It will be a long time bofore the flood water
receed in sections of the gulf coast.

.I would add animals have an amazing instinct for survival.
It is belived that 60,000+ animals have survived and are now
homeless.
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Cat Protector - 17 Sep 2005 03:48 GMT
Actually from one rescuer I have heard from says that this may be true. The
HSUS according to what this rescuer said, is telling everyone they are in
charge down there in New Orleans. The truth is, there appears to be chaos
and disorganization. The rescue groups seem to be also meeting a lot of red
tape as well which is hindering rescue efforts.

There are many organizations working down there in the affected areas not
just one organization. The Louisiana SPCA is supposed to be in charge of
rescue efforts not HSUS. HSUS is merely assisting not leading the rescuer
efforts. The euthanizing of animals from what I have heard is possibly
happening to make room for other animals as it has been said there is not
enough room at these emergency rescue shelters. I am not sure what is
accurate but I can somehow see how this might happen.

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> Are Animals Being Euthanized?
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> our scarce human resources at our Headquarters and in the field who are
> focused solely on saving animals' lives.
No More Retail - 17 Sep 2005 04:31 GMT
All I can say is pray to what ever form of god or higher power you believe
in for the safety recovery of our four legged friends

All I know is that I see all the advertising to help humans  and not the
Humane society.  Every one needs to call their local TV station, radio
station and whatever form of public advertising  to ask the to broadcast the
urgent need there is

I live in Florida near Orlando and we have a great person the runs Pet
rescue by Judy  every animal that comes in to her care get adopted
immediately and right now there is a high demand for adoption for the
Katrina animal survivors
Cat Protector - 17 Sep 2005 05:14 GMT
Actually, I did a PSA for Alley Cat Allies and the ASPCA regarding the
animal victims of Katrina that has played on a number of Internet and
terrestrial radio stations. So advertising is out there. The PSA is
downloadable via the Cat Galaxy Web Site and we hope many pass it on. You
can find it at www.catgalaxymedia.com.

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> All I can say is pray to what ever form of god or higher power you believe
> in for the safety recovery of our four legged friends
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> immediately and right now there is a high demand for adoption for the
> Katrina animal survivors
No More Retail - 17 Sep 2005 06:00 GMT
That was not directly directed  at you just  at the whole situation :-)
Cat Protector - 17 Sep 2005 07:00 GMT
Well the whole situation is pretty much politics.

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> That was not directly directed  at you just  at the whole situation :-)
The Cunning Linguist :Þ - 17 Sep 2005 14:29 GMT
> Actually from one rescuer I have heard from says that this may be true. The
> HSUS according to what this rescuer said, is telling everyone they are in
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> enough room at these emergency rescue shelters. I am not sure what is
> accurate but I can somehow see how this might happen.

This is the kind of irresponsible rumor mongering that is negatively
affecting the rescue efforts. There are many rescue groups working together
to save the animal victims of this tragedy.
Only the sickest and most gravely injured animals are being euthanized and
then only under the orders of a veterinarian. There was an issue with the
Gonzales rescue center becoming full but the animal rescue organizations
worked with the state authorities and got permission to ship the animals to
shelters in other areas. Many of them are going to a large shelter in
Houston.
Whether you personally like a given organization should not matter in this
time of crisis. Hundreds of people are desperately working under
unimaginable conditions to save the animals that are left before the clock
runs out. If you can't support them, the very least you should do is not
hinder them.
Barrnabas Collins - 17 Sep 2005 16:56 GMT
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>This is the kind of irresponsible rumor mongering that is negatively
>affecting the rescue efforts. There are many rescue groups working together
>to save the animal victims of this tragedy.
IMHO the point to take away from this is Katrina is an unprecedented
tragedy.   See my previous post.  

The bottom line is as much as I hate the idea of putting an animal to
sleep the final resut ten - fiftteen years down the road may be that
any animal left after the tital surge may have to be put to sleep for
hamane reasons.....just think of the extremely painful ailments these
animals are going to go through in 15+ years as a result of the
contact with the toxic waste in the water.  

I don't want to put any animals to sleep but I also don't want
to see any pets experiencing insuffarable pain when they
come down with devastating disease.   AND MAKE NO MISTAKE
ABOUT.   ANIMALS WILL INEVITABLY COME DOWN WITH SOME
DEVASTATING DISEASE AS A RESULT OF COMING IN CONTACT
WITH THE TOXIC SLUDGE IN THE WATER.

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Barrnabas Collins - 17 Sep 2005 17:03 GMT
>Only the sickest and most gravely injured animals are being euthanized and
>then only under the orders of a veterinarian.
How many of these animals are going to be sick and with
symptoms that only manifest themselves 15+ years down
road.  

Just because an animal looks fine now doesn't mean
they won't come down with some ailment related
to Katrina 15+ years down the road.

So yeah it may be 15-30 years before we know the true
impact of Katrina.

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The Cunning Linguist :Þ - 18 Sep 2005 18:15 GMT
> >Only the sickest and most gravely injured animals are being euthanized and
> >then only under the orders of a veterinarian.
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> So yeah it may be 15-30 years before we know the true
> impact of Katrina.

15 years is a good life for an animal. It is certainly no justification for
killing them or leaving them to die.
Cat Protector - 17 Sep 2005 19:03 GMT
Is it rumor really? The Humane Society from what I know does practice
euthanasia. Even here in Phoenix during the height of cat and kitten season
said that unless they can adopt out the many cats and kittens brought into
their shelter that they would euthanize.

The latest from the PAWS Web Site in Chicago said the following.

"The Next PAWS Chicago Katrina Rescue Mission
In approximately two weeks we will be conducting our third and largest
rescue mission to date when the quarantine in Louisiana and Mississippi are
over. Most animals will be euthanized in these shelters if rescue groups
don't take them out. We will need as many volunteers as possible at that
time. Due to the health risks in these areas, volunteers will need updated
vaccinations."

If you noticed, this one lends support to the fact that unless people come
to get their animals in Gonzales, they would be euthanized to make room for
others.

One of the problems with this whole thing is the fact that there is some
political involved. Rescue groups seem to be running into a lot of red tape
from the government. Rescue organizations apparently ran into one excuse
after the other and all they wanted to do was rescue the animals.

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> This is the kind of irresponsible rumor mongering that is negatively
> affecting the rescue efforts. There are many rescue groups working
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> runs out. If you can't support them, the very least you should do is not
> hinder them.
No More Retail - 17 Sep 2005 19:50 GMT
That is real funny considering that according to the HSUS own email the only
animal being put to sleep are the extremely sick and the extremely
aggressive.  If phoenix is putting to sleep animals then is sounds like
someone needs to stand up and get the shelters to be a no kill shelter like
here in Florida does.  There is a demand for the animals survivors here in
Florida

This is from HSUS site it self
Are Animals Being Euthanized?

There are erroneous rumors spreading on the Internet that animals in
Louisiana are being euthanized en masse. This is absolutely false. Why would
anybody expend so much effort to rescue these animals only to turn around
and euthanize them? A few animals have been euthanized because of severe
health problems. The decision to euthanize is taken by the veterinarians who
are treating the animals at the facility.

Currently, the disposition of the animals-as well as the ability of
veterinarians to practice on site-is determined solely at the discretion of
the Louisiana state veterinarian. Similarly, animals who require euthanasia
in Mississippi or any temporary animal shelter/holding facility in the Gulf
Coast disaster area will only be euthanized after a veterinarian has
determined that it is the best course of action for that animal.

Misinformation about access to the Gonzales facility and the care the
animals are receiving is being posted on certain websites. If you want to
help animals get the desperate attention they need, please do not forward
such rumors to The HSUS. Receiving and responding to rumors is a waste of
our scarce human resources at our Headquarters and in the field who are
focused solely on saving animals' lives.

What Should I Do About Rumors?

In a situation as enormous and fast paced as this disaster, information is
being distributed rapidly and-on occasion-recklessly. Rumors are flying. It
is impossible for us to respond to what other animal welfare groups are
saying or doing, or to the misinformation and hearsay that individuals are
spreading through other websites and chat rooms.

We are updating information as quickly as we can, so please help us in our
disaster efforts by referring to www.hsus.org for accurate information and
to find out what you can do to help. Frequent visits to our website-instead
of emailing us unless absolutely necessary-will allow our staff to devote
themselves to the most pressing animal care and rescue needs.

The help that we need now is for the State of Louisiana to support our
efforts. For people who are not directly involved in and helping to
coordinate rescue efforts, the best thing you can do is to call Governor
Kathleen Babineaux Blanco 1-866-310-7617. Ask her office to do everything it
can to support the animal rescue effort.
Cat Protector - 18 Sep 2005 00:14 GMT
Well I have emailed the AHS to ask them about the euthanization of animals
to make room for the animal victims of Katrina in shelters here in Phoenix.
I am awaiting their response. The Arizona Air National Guard is flying in
100-150 animals tomorrow on two KC-135 cargo planes from New Orleans. It is
unknown how they will handle the capacity at AHS because they took in plenty
of animals this summer.

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> That is real funny considering that according to the HSUS own email the
> only animal being put to sleep are the extremely sick and the extremely
[quoted text clipped - 48 lines]
> Kathleen Babineaux Blanco 1-866-310-7617. Ask her office to do everything
> it can to support the animal rescue effort.
The Cunning Linguist :Þ - 18 Sep 2005 18:15 GMT
> Is it rumor really? The Humane Society from what I know does practice
> euthanasia. Even here in Phoenix during the height of cat and kitten season
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
> from the government. Rescue organizations apparently ran into one excuse
> after the other and all they wanted to do was rescue the animals.

None of this proves or even suggests that HUSSY is or will be euthanizing
non-human animals rescued from Katrina. It's all specious speculation no
doubt by a group that has some political bone to pick with HUSSY. You would
think, in the face of such a disaster, everyone could stop this petty
backbiting and focus on rescuing those who still suffer before the clock
runs out
The Cunning Linguist :Þ - 20 Sep 2005 14:29 GMT
> > Is it rumor really? The Humane Society from what I know does practice
> > euthanasia. Even here in Phoenix during the height of cat and kitten
[quoted text clipped - 30 lines]
> backbiting and focus on rescuing those who still suffer before the clock
> runs out

HSUS- f-ing spell checker
Cat Protector - 20 Sep 2005 17:52 GMT
Actually this may be happening but the HSUS might very well be in the clear
here. The American Humane Association however may be in charge at Gonzales
and I have called them to see if they'll comment about the conditions there.
So, far they have not called back. I have been told that when the AHS
(Arizona Humane Society) got the Arizona Air National Guard to fly out
animals, the powers that be (the AHA from what I have heard) at the Gonzales
shelter would not allow cats to be flown out with the excuse that "they
didn't think they would travel well." For me that doesn't seem like a valid
excuse. As a result only dogs were on that flight. The AHS rescuers were
heartbroken from what I have been told.

I am hoping the AHA will respond but they may not if they are in charge of
Gonzales. More is going on down there than what the public is being told and
before jumping to conclusions, the AHA should be allowed to comment and tell
their side if they have one. If I get a response, I'll be posting it.

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>> > Is it rumor really? The Humane Society from what I know does practice
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> HSUS- f-ing spell checker
KittyyttiK - 20 Sep 2005 22:07 GMT
THIS IS NO JOKE.  HELP IS DESPERATELY NEEDED.

Are you afraid to post this, so-called animal lovers?  This is a heart
wrenching, first hand account from a very brave volunteer.

Permission to cross-post now granted!  Get the word out because help is
desperately needed. From a Connecticut shelter volunteer that just came
back from New Orleans:

September 19, 2005

Hi All,

I got home late last night from Louisiana.  I'm still trying to process
everything I've seen and done, not to mention trying to get the stench out
of my clothes!  We went to the LSU temporary shelter, which is well run and
organized.  They really have their act together and it's a great place to
volunteer.

Next stop was the Lamar Dixon Expo Center(aka Gonzales), the large
"clearing house" facility. LASPCA, HSUS, ASPCA, and VMAT are in a power
struggle over who is in charge.  It is total chaos. They don't have
anywhere near enough people to care for the 2000 animals (average) and are
turning away rescue groups bringing more animals in after sitting in line
for hours.
This place is HUGE, and the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is
doing. Dogs and cats sit for days waiting for vet care even if illness is
obvious. Many do not get out of their crates for 2+ days.  There is no
leadership, no system, and the animals are suffering.
Vet care is obtained when they get the chance, and only after a request is
put in the "inbox", which happens to be a bucket.  Volunteers are so burnt
out they are in tears.  There are some very sick  animals who are put in
makeshift "wards" in the barns.  No bleach bucket outside for shoes, and no
where near any acceptable level of sanitation.  "Triage" doesn't happened
regularly, not enough vets & vet techs.

The Parvo stalls are in the middle of everything ... people in & out of
them constantly, and going directly in stalls with "healthy" dogs.  All
dogs & cats are kept in crates of all kinds.  We got yelled at by VMAT for
moving a puppy into a wire crate instead of a veri-kennel after being told
to do so by HSUS.  Don't know if it was because she was a pit pup and
therefore most likely not going to make it out of that hellhole after all
she'd been thru- she was air-vacced off the 610 bridge- or what.

There are huge buses, vans, RV's, tents everywhere, representives of
different states for each large group.  Animal Planet had their bus there,
and PETA was driving in as we were leaving. That's all well & good, but the
"negotiations" for control is disgusting.  Whoever gets the government
"grant" (aka "Contract") runs the show, and makes some nice $$.  There are
pallets of food, water, crates, etc from Walmart, Petco, Petsmart, and a
bunch of others.  They just don't have enough people to clean & walk all
these dogs, let alone feed, water, and med.  They DESPERATELY need more
people to do the basic stuff.

We hooked up with Pasado Animal Rescue & did door to door searches for
animal survivors in New Orleans.  It is mind-blowing how many pets are
still alive, though many are going down hill fast.  Wednesday we did water
rescue in an area that was still flooded, and pulled over a dozen dogs out
of houses where they were trapped. We found animals alive in homes that
were boarded up & barricaded, having to break in using any means necessary
to get to them. The stench is unreal, and most homes are booby-traps-
furniture and appliances thrown everywhere by the flood waters, the mold,
sludge and god knows what makes walking in very dangerous. You DO NOT want
to fall and get that stuff on you.

The situation changes hour by hour, let alone day by day. They are
beginning to release animals to rescues at least from what I saw, at least
50% of the dog population is Pitbull/Pit-mixes, approx 25% Rotties & Chows,
and the remaining 25% every breed you can imagine.  Some of the rescues are
taking Pits & Rotties, though Lamar Dixon may not be allowing them out,
Pasado & LSU are.

I know there are other groups as well. Save A Dog is still there and flying
in volunteers.  They are also  doing door to door rescue in the city now.

IF ANYONE CAN GO PLEASE GO!  Hotels are not an option.  If you go, plan on
sleeping in a tent (bring your own), or your vehicle. Personally, I
recommend the vehicle ... Fire Ants are everywhere, and from personal
experience, they will find you.  I spent 2 nights sleeping in a horse stall
before they realized I was there (the ants), but once they did, it was all
over.  Their bite is EXTREMELY painful and leaves blisters that turn into
something resembling a pimple.  Nothing seems to kill them.  Showers are a
luxury, if you can get one.  Bring your own food & water, medical supplies,
Rubbing Alcohol, bleach, etc to decontaminate yourself after handling the
animals, who are still covered with dry toxic sewage.
This effort will be going on for months, and people will be needed all the
way thru.  Right now, the dogs & cats (and every other creature you can
imagine) are critical.  Many are dehydrated and starving, and it is a VERY
ugly scene.  I hope things will improve.  If anyone goes now, be prepared
to separate your personal feelings from what needs to be done just to get
these animals some help.  Hopefully it will improve over the next few
weeks/months, and someone will be in charge and get things somewhat
organized.

For those who can't turn off their feelings and just do the job as best
they can, don't go now.  Wait until it gets better.  If you have a strong
stomach, and can stay focused on just taking care of one at a time, you are
needed now.

Feral dog packs and cat colonies were well established in New Orleans prior
to the hurricane ... now they are feeding off each other, and whatever they
can find.  It is truly horrible.  The animal population problem is beyond
belief. Out of some 300 dogs Pasado Rescue pulled, only TWO males were
neutered, and I think ONE female.  There are dogs who were severely
neglected prior to the hurricane, mange is very prevalent, and god only
knows what else.  Most of the Pits have had there ears cropped back to
their heads ...."Home Jobs" done with scissors or knives. The whole thing
is just surreal. I did not dream at all while I was down there, probably
due to exhaustion - we were up at 6 am and lucky to get to bed by 3 or 4
am.  The nightmares are starting now, and I can't get the images out of my
mind.  I try to focus on the ones we've saved, and pray they get into
homes.  Enough for now, this is too long as it is, and I'm starting to cry
again.

B.
Cat Protector - 20 Sep 2005 22:50 GMT
Actually I am trying to do a story about this and the conditions at
Gonzales. Who is the rescuer you are posting this from? I'd love for them to
get in touch with us here at Cat Galaxy. Our Web address is
www.catgalaxymedia.com.

This is not the first volunteer to tell us this stuff is going on at the
Gonzales shelter. So far unconfirmed reports have said they are seperating
feral cats and not giving anyone acceess to them. They are also not giving
some of the animals food and water, 3,500 animals have yet to be entered in
the Petfinder.com database, and they are turning away volunteers who could
probably help care for those animals. I also know from what I have heard
that those who are volunteering are also told not to talk about the
euthanization of animals at that shelter.

It has also been told that when the AHS wanted to fly cats as well to
shelters in Phoenix, they were told by the powers at Gonzales no, citing
that "they didn't think they would travel well." They had no problems ok'ing
dogs though for the flight.

Since this is a story, we are giving the players a chance to respond and get
their side. It has been mentioned that the American Humane Association might
be the ones in charge at Gonzales. I must agree that from the reports more
is going on down there but the truth will hopefully be told. This is why I
want to hear from actual workers at Gonzales as well as get pictures.

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> THIS IS NO JOKE.  HELP IS DESPERATELY NEEDED.
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alpha© - 21 Sep 2005 03:35 GMT
>Actually I am trying to do a story about this and the conditions at
>Gonzales. Who is the rescuer you are posting this from? I'd love for them to
>get in touch with us here at Cat Galaxy. Our Web address is
>www.catgalaxymedia.com. <snip>

I was at the Lamar-Dixon facility on the 9th.

See: http://alspaugh.org/katrina/katrina.htm for details and photos.

At the time it seemed rather disorganized but everyone we came in
contact with had the animals welfare as the number one priority.
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No More Retail - 21 Sep 2005 03:46 GMT
From all of us who love animals THANK YOU
Barrnabas Collins - 21 Sep 2005 21:00 GMT
>Permission to cross-post now granted!
Read your ISP service agreement.   There is an item in there
prohibiting cross posting.   No matter what the cuause ISPs
never allow cross posting to Usenet groups.

Probably reads something like this:
Crossposting: Posting the same article to more than three newsgroups
is prohibited. The article posted must be on-topic for each group it
is posted to.

You posted to
alt.cats,alt.pets.cats,rec.pets.cats,rec.pets.cats.rescue,rec.pets.dogs,rec.pets.dogs.rescue
which last time I took math was more than three groups.
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KittyyttiK - 22 Sep 2005 00:20 GMT
On Tue, 20 Sep 2005 17:07:19 -0400, "KittyyttiK" <cougar@goowy.com>
wrote:
Permission to cross-post now granted!
Read your ISP service agreement.   There is an item in there
prohibiting cross posting.   No matter what the cuause ISPs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>can't spell either!
never allow cross posting to Usenet groups.
Probably reads something like this: Crossposting: Posting the same article
to more than three newsgroups is prohibited. The article posted must be
on-topic for each group it is posted to.
You posted to
alt.cats,alt.pets.cats,rec.pets.cats,rec.pets.cats.rescue,rec.pets.dogs,rec.pets.dogs.rescue
which last time I took math was more than three groups.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>he can count!
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Kiss off, Barney and get a life!
You're the idiot who thought Bengals were a wild breed of cat.
Why don't you get off your stupid, shallow, butt and do something useful
like going to New Orleans and volunteering.  You haven't got the nerve you
self-centered, arrogant, pompous a.s hole.
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Cat Protector - 22 Sep 2005 02:41 GMT
Actually, some groups might be evacuating from New Orleans because of
Hurricane Rita. If it chages direction it could hit New Orleans.

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>Actually from one rescuer I have heard from says that this may be true.
One thing needs to be kept in mind through all this......
I don't want to see any animal euthanized but many will
have to be by virtue of the fasct that they drank/came in
contact with water that is a toxic waste site.   I hate the
idea of euthanizing the animals but I also fear how
ill these cats will become in the coming years.  Any animal
who comes in contact with the water in the New Orleans
area will not have a good result.    The fact remains that
any water in the region is now mixed with sewage,
gas, oil, and who knows how many other toxix chemicals.
As much as I hate the idea of euthanizing these aniamls
the toxic sludge in the water is going to wreak havoc on the
health of these animals.  

I wouldn't be surprised if we learn a few months
down the road that most of the 60,000 homeless pets
have to be put to sleep.   After all the alternative may
be watching as these animals suffer incredible pain
related to the contact with this toxic sludge that is
in the water.  

The bottom line is now in the wake of Kartrina the
region is a toxic waste dump and any living creature
is in danger.  

Just think of what these beloed pets are
going to suffer 15+ years down the road
because they came in contact with/ingested
this toxix sludge called water that is covering
New Orleans.
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Cat Protector - 18 Sep 2005 01:49 GMT
Animals rescued from New Orleans will be arriving in Phoenix on board two
Arizona Air National Guard KC-135 tankers Being called Operation Noah's Ark
approximately 100-300 animals will be greeted by the Arizona Humane Society
and taken to their Nina Mason Pulliam Campus for Compassion shelter at 1521
W. Dobbins Rd. The animals will then be checked out by veterinary staff and
then have their pictures taken to be entered in the petfinder.com database
in the hopes they can be re-united with their humans. Animals will be held
for about 4-6 weeks and have already gone through decontamination before
their trip to Phoenix.

The AHS has said that no animal brought in will be euthanized. Temporary
space has been cleared in their Learning Center as well as at other
facilities. Kim Noetzel of the AHS says they have the space they need and
they are networking with other shelters as well. The biggest need she says
will be foster homes. The fosters will need to know that once the animal's
family is located that will have to turn the animal over. But if the
families say they longer want the animal or they do not contact AHS that
they can be put up for adoption or be adopted by the foster parent. For
those interested in fostering one of the animals brought in please contact
the AHS at www.azhumane.org.

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Cat Protector - 18 Sep 2005 03:09 GMT
Ok cancel the foster part. AHS now says they don't need foster homes for the
animals now.

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It's Only Alimentary, Dear Watson - 19 Sep 2005 15:53 GMT
HOWEDY barranabas,

Perhaps you should go down there and murder
your fair share to heelp them out?

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