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Worst day of my life
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somebody - 08 Feb 2004 01:55 GMT First a bit of history... I'm a huge cat lover - always have been. I'm nearly 20 and have always had cats throughout my life... For about the 2 years before about 6 months ago, I didn't have any pets at all. I was also going through a rough time and in the end my parents split up and I moved with my mum to a diff state. So once things settled down my mum got me two little kittens. When she brought the box home and gave it to me and I saw them I immediately fell in love, as I didn't have any friends here and still don't and they've been my best friends since. I've always taken great care of them and they are only 3 months old now. I only ever let them play in the backyard, and would only ever let them out at night under my supervision, and I'd bring them straight back in. Every day as I woke up they'd be the first things I'd wanna see - and when I got home from work. I'd buy them the most expensive food and lots of toys and every night they'd sleep in my bed. One always slept at my foot and the other (Molly) would always sleep on my shoulder and rest his head alongside mine - it was so cute!! They loved each other too. They were never apart and were always playing and sleeping together.
Molly was the cutest cat... He was so fluffy and affectionate. He'd always follow me around and always licked my fingers. Anyway last night, Molly died. I went out the front to call my dad, and my mum must have let Molly out earlier and I thought he was inside... but nope. We live on a corner and I couldn't see him at first, but I walked around the corner while I was talking and it was the worst shock of my life. He was just laying there and the body was in perfect shape - it looked as though he must have stuck his head out in the wrong place at the wrong time... I just couldn't believe it. The poor thing was only a few months old and didn't get a chance to experience more of life.
What upsets me most is it was so preventable. I've taken so much care of them since we got them and for just a few minutes I let him out of my site, he gets run over..
My other cat (Milly) has been extremely upset since. His tail is droopy and he's all floppy and looks to have no energy. He slept with me all night last night and just layed on my stomach with his body flattened out and his head looking up at me. You could see the despair in his face. His eyes were all wattery and puffy and he looked so upset. Today he's been walking around as though he's lost... I might get him another friend in a couple of weeks...
Anyway, here's some cute pics I have of Molly for you guys to see. RIP.. It's such a shame and I still think I'm in shock.. I just can't believe it..
http://www.hostforge.net/~bjg/mol/
Dik F. Liu - 08 Feb 2004 02:41 GMT I am so sorry about your lost. Molly was a very cute kitten. Yes, Milly needs a new companion. This time, please keep them indoor. Cats want to go outside because that's their instincts; but they developed their instincts long before there were SUVs.
Dik
somebody - 08 Feb 2004 03:09 GMT > I am so sorry about your lost. Molly was a very cute kitten. Yes, Milly needs a > new companion. This time, please keep them indoor. Cats want to go outside > because that's their instincts; but they developed their instincts long before > there were SUVs. Thanks.. I think that's why I'm so upset... I hardly let them outside, it was my mum who always did because all she cared about was her stupid furniture. If I had it my way I would never have let them outside.
So I need some advice... I doubt my mum's attitude is going to change, or if it does it won't last forever. I could probably arrange an agreement with her. ie. to set one of the rooms up for Milly and a new companion when I get one. The thing is we both work full time, and the house is alarmed, so we aren't able to leave them running around the house all day. But one room I could organise it.. Is it cruel though to leave them in a room for 10 hours a day? I will eventually build some sort of an enclosure outside, but until then what do I do? I don't trust anyone enough to give Milly away to. How big would the room need to be?
Agua Girl - 08 Feb 2004 02:52 GMT > > I am so sorry about your lost. Molly was a very cute kitten. Yes, Milly > needs a [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > then what do I do? I don't trust anyone enough to give Milly away to. How > big would the room need to be? Have the alarm company change the sensor on the motion detector so the cats don't set it off. I have mine set this way. My 80lb golden would set it off but the two cats didn't. I don't think one 10 x 10 room would be too small for them if you design it around them. That's actually a pretty large "cattery". Give them something to climb, a way to look out the window, things to play with etc... It's not like Milly has been watching tv, dancing to the stereo and talking on the phone while your gone. Most important is getting her another play mate. Cats that LIKE being with other cats need that interaction. Unlike some who won't let me have another. sniff sniff.
AG
Agua Girl - 08 Feb 2004 02:57 GMT BTW...I am really sorry for your loss. Doesn't matter if they are 20 years old or 2 months, if you have had them for a day or a lifetime...it's never easy to lose what you love. Besides losing her play mate, Milly is also sensing your pain. It's important for her that you deal with the sadness than move on to remembering happier times as quickly as you can. Cats are very good at mimicking their owners emotions.
AG
Dik F. Liu - 08 Feb 2004 04:22 GMT If the room is big enough, that should be fine. But as AG suggests, you can have the alarm company change the sensor on the motion detector so the cats don't set it off. This would give the cats the run of the house. As for the furniture, you can teach your cats to scratch on a scratching post instead of the furniture.
Dik
~*Connie*~ - 12 Feb 2004 11:38 GMT > Thanks.. I think that's why I'm so upset... I hardly let them outside, it > was my mum who always did because all she cared about was her stupid > furniture. If I had it my way I would never have let them outside. Have you tried "soft paws".. cats can't claw up furniture with them on http://www.softpaws.com
Bill - 08 Feb 2004 03:13 GMT You have my deepest sympathy, You instantly brought back memories of my last cat who was also a tabby.
We decided to get two kittens to fill the void at home and they won't be going outside.
I used to say I could never keep a cat indoors but after seeing some indoor cats at local breeders, they seem to be quite happy inside.
Over the years I have had two cats disappear and two traffic fatalities. It is so sad and there is no way I'm going to let it happen again.
How Biggles survived for 13 years I don't know, what with various infected bites and other injuries .... I guess he was tough. Damn cancer.
Anyway get a buddy for Milly and I wish you all the best.
Sincerely Bill
> First a bit of history... I'm a huge cat lover - always have been. I'm > nearly 20 and have always had cats throughout my life... For about the 2 >  Signature In Memory of Biggles www.1cooperfamily.com
NickKnight - 08 Feb 2004 03:51 GMT >First a bit of history... I'm a huge cat lover - always have been. I'm >nearly 20 and have always had cats throughout my life... For about the 2 [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > > http://www.hostforge.net/~bjg/mol/ You have my sympathy. I had cat that looked just like his one who died a few years ago. I had an autopsy done to make sure it wasn't something that my other cats in the house could get. There were three other cats in the house.
They never found a cause. As best we can figure out is she died of an apparent heart attack. She would routinely run around alot and not know when to stop and rest. -------------------------------------------- "It took us 15 years to McGyver this thing." -------------------------Carter on Stargate
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JP Hobbs - 08 Feb 2004 05:02 GMT so sorry to hear of the loss of that beautiful kitty,Its so sad when a pet dies,but in her short life you gave her so much love,she must have been a very happy kitty and for such a young man you are very mature Hugs and Purrs to you, and Molly to help her safely to R.B Jean P.
> >First a bit of history... I'm a huge cat lover - always have been. I'm > >nearly 20 and have always had cats throughout my life... For about the 2 [quoted text clipped - 55 lines] > To send me e-mail exorcise NO Spam from > my e-mail address. Luvskats00 - 08 Feb 2004 08:49 GMT I'm so sorry to hear about the accident. Please join the group of people who believe cats should be inside (unless no cars/wild animals/dogs/mean people are 50 miles away). Speak out against letting cats outside. It's a game of Russian Roulette.
Sherry - 08 Feb 2004 14:25 GMT >I'm so sorry to hear about the accident. Please join the group of people who >believe cats should be inside (unless no cars/wild animals/dogs/mean people >are >50 miles away). Speak out against letting cats outside. It's a game of >Russian >Roulette. You're preaching to the choir. Read the OP's first and second post. She already *does* believe cats should stay indoors. She let them out only supervised. Her mom let them outdoors. She needs suggestions about how to contain the cat to one room, not a lecture on keeping them in, until she has a home of her own. I would suggest getting a cat tree, leaving the drapes open and otherwise make the room "cat friendly" as much as your budget/mom will allow. Another kitten for companionship would be great. A small HEPA filter will help too; I have a rescue locked in a 10x12 room right now, and it tends to get stuffy/smelly with the litterbox in there. It's not cruel to keep them contained in a room that big for the designated time you're at work, if that's the only alternative you have right now. Cats sleep much of the day anyway. Give them lots of attention when you get home, and they'll be fine. Good luck. Sherry
somebody - 09 Feb 2004 10:11 GMT > >I'm so sorry to hear about the accident. Please join the group of people who > >believe cats should be inside (unless no cars/wild animals/dogs/mean people [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > and they'll be fine. Good luck. > Sherry Thanks Sherry, I was beginning to wonder whether anyone read my post. BTW i'm a he.
I found a good company that makes cat enclosures - i never knew they existed!
http://www.catmax.com.au/
Sherry - 09 Feb 2004 14:10 GMT >Thanks Sherry, I was beginning to wonder whether anyone read my post. BTW >i'm a he. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >http://www.catmax.com.au/ An enclosure would be a *great* compromise. We built one for my daughter's cats, and they love it. We just enclosed an existing patio. They spend a lot of time out there, even when it's cold outside. http://members.aol.com/sriddles/room1.jpg http://members.aol.com/sriddles/room2.jpg
Sherry
NickKnight - 08 Feb 2004 16:10 GMT >I'm so sorry to hear about the accident. Please join the group of people who >believe cats should be inside (unless no cars/wild animals/dogs/mean people are >50 miles away). Speak out against letting cats outside. It's a game of Russian >Roulette. What strikes me in this discussion is the cause is unknown. Some like the above poster are saying to keep the cat indoors, i'm not sure that would have made a difference in this case. " He was just laying there and the body was in perfect shape - it looked as though he must have stuck his head out in the wrong place at the wrong time." That tells me the cat was not hit by car, not attacked by a wild animal. Maybe the cat would have died even if it was inside the house? -------------------------------------------- "Finally a member of the Jackson family finds another young boy to victimize." -------------------------Jimmy Fallon on SNL referring to Justin Timberlake
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Agua Girl - 08 Feb 2004 17:18 GMT > >I'm so sorry to hear about the accident. Please join the group of people who > >believe cats should be inside (unless no cars/wild animals/dogs/mean people are [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > animal. Maybe the cat would have died even if it was inside the > house? Not neccessarily. It depends on the angle etc. Not every animal is "run over" and it's not uncommon for the internal injuries to show no external injuries. Even in people. Years ago I was a passenger in a car that hit a dog. He was knocked to the curb and just lay there. Didn't have a scratch on him but he was obviously in pain so we rushed him to the vet. We ended up with a $900 vet bill (which the owner reimbursed us for gratefully). I'm sure if he was any younger or any less healthy (BIG 2 year old german shepard) or if the people that hit him had not realized it than he wouldn't have made it.
AG
NickKnight - 08 Feb 2004 19:49 GMT >Not neccessarily. It depends on the angle etc. Not every animal >is "run over" and it's not uncommon for the internal injuries to show [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >shepard) or if the people that hit him had not realized it than he >wouldn't have made it. But just because the animal is lying there dead doesn't mean it was hit by a car.
When I took my medical training they taught us to first and foremost look at the situation. Look at the mechanism of injury. Are the injuries consistent with what really happened? Only when you fully understand what really happened can even consider how to treat it.
I don't see where in this case the assumption is valid that the animal was hit by a car. One of the reasons i'm very nervous around dogs is that if a dog is hit by a car it is going to cause serious damage. I was on my way to school many years ago one day and a dog came out of somewhere and was hit by a car. It will not only cause serious damage to the car, it will also cause major damge to the dog. It may not obvious on the outside it may intenal injuries that only become evident on a closer look. -------------------------------------------- "Finally a member of the Jackson family finds another young boy to victimize." -------------------------Jimmy Fallon on SNL referring to Justin Timberlake
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somebody - 08 Feb 2004 21:29 GMT > >I'm so sorry to hear about the accident. Please join the group of people who > >believe cats should be inside (unless no cars/wild animals/dogs/mean people are [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > animal. Maybe the cat would have died even if it was inside the > house? Sorry don't think i explained it well enough. What i was getting at by "stuck his head out in the wrong place at the wrong time", was his head was completely shattered. The rest of the body though didn't have a scratch on it. It looked as though a car nippped his head going at high speed. Or Molly being the reckless cat that he was layed on the road and a car just came and drove over his head. His body was laying there perfectly which striked me as odd... as if he had been laying down. It was a hot night though so it wasn't unusual to see my cats just lay in awkward places where it might have been cool. Or he could have been chasing or playing with a bug... I dunno.
There were kids playing around it earlier though... after I found Molly and took in her into the backyard, we could hear the kids come back with an adult saying "it's gone, it's gone", but I was in no shape to talk to them. I could see them running up and down the footpath while I was on the phone... One of the kids lives next door so I'll have a word to him when I see him.
NickKnight - 09 Feb 2004 00:35 GMT >Sorry don't think i explained it well enough. What i was getting at by >"stuck his head out in the wrong place at the wrong time", was his head was >completely shattered. Yes, you didn't explain it well at all.
>The rest of the body though didn't have a scratch on >it. It looked as though a car nippped his head going at high speed. Or Molly >being the reckless cat that he was layed on the road and a car just came and >drove over his head. His body was laying there perfectly which striked me as >odd... as if he had been laying down. That sounds odd. Was there damage to the neck?
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somebody - 09 Feb 2004 07:40 GMT > >The rest of the body though didn't have a scratch on > >it. It looked as though a car nippped his head going at high speed. Or Molly > >being the reckless cat that he was layed on the road and a car just came and > >drove over his head. His body was laying there perfectly which striked me as > >odd... as if he had been laying down. > That sounds odd. Was there damage to the neck? Not that I recall. I didn't get a real good look at it cause it was dark, and I really didn't like seeing him the way he was. It was mainly his head. Two things I noticably remember are that his mouth was all caved in, like the roof of his mouth was still in one piece but sticking out of his mouth kinda... and one of his eyes was totally out of the socket and there was blood all around it. I wondered whether those kids could have done it, but they were only young (like 10/11), so they would have had to have jumped on his head a few times, and what kind of sick person would do that.
Wendy - 09 Feb 2004 13:00 GMT > >The rest of the body though didn't have a scratch on > >it. It looked as though a car nippped his head going at high speed. Or Molly
> >being the reckless cat that he was layed on the road and a car just came and
> >drove over his head. His body was laying there perfectly which striked me as
> >odd... as if he had been laying down. > That sounds odd. Was there damage to the neck? Not that I recall. I didn't get a real good look at it cause it was dark, and I really didn't like seeing him the way he was. It was mainly his head. Two things I noticably remember are that his mouth was all caved in, like the roof of his mouth was still in one piece but sticking out of his mouth kinda... and one of his eyes was totally out of the socket and there was blood all around it. I wondered whether those kids could have done it, but they were only young (like 10/11), so they would have had to have jumped on his head a few times, and what kind of sick person would do that.
There are sick people out there unfortunately. Your cat probably got clipped by a passing car but don't discount the danger from children. My dh had to rescue one of ours from a neighbors swimming pool where the kids were trying to drown it. My 16 yr. old was shot with a pellet gun and still carries the pellet under her skin. We keep our cats inside now. When I was growning up we always had inside/outside cats but it doesn't seem to be safe to do that anymore. If you get or build a nice cat tree, maybe set up a perch near a window and get some toys they can be happy inside. If your Mom will go along a room for the cats sounds like a great idea. Set them up in there with a litter box and plenty of fresh water and they should be fine.
If you decide to get a friend for Milly post again and people can give you advice on introducing the new addition. A gradual introduction is best.
Beautiful cats - So sorry for your loss.
W
NickKnight - 09 Feb 2004 16:45 GMT >Not that I recall. I didn't get a real good look at it cause it was dark, >and I really didn't like seeing him the way he was. It was mainly his head. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >they were only young (like 10/11), so they would have had to have jumped on >his head a few times, and what kind of sick person would do that. UInfortunately in this day and age there is no limit to how sick some kids can be. You would be amazed at what some kids around here will do to an animal. It's enough to make you sick. -------------------------------------------- "Finally a member of the Jackson family finds another young boy to victimize." -------------------------Jimmy Fallon on SNL referring to Justin Timberlake
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philo - 08 Feb 2004 22:56 GMT > First a bit of history... I'm a huge cat lover - always have been. I'm > nearly 20 and have always had cats throughout my life... For about the 2 [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > them since we got them and for just a few minutes I let him out of my site, > he gets run over.. You sure have my sympathy
the thing is...your poor kitten might have not have been injured...it could have been some terrible birth defect... at any rate it's too late now but you may still want to get another kitten
Double Trouble - 08 Feb 2004 23:47 GMT They are both beautiful babies! I am very sorry for your loss. I know what it is like to loose something that dear to you, such as a feline companion.
Milly definitly needs a playmate right away. I do hope that you will find a suitable one for her. You take good care of them, so I think that you will make the right decisions for your little ones.
There is nothing wrong with them having their own room! As long as they have plenty of things to climb on, and play with, then they should be fine. Grab a couple of cat magazines, get some ideas for this room from them. I personally love the walkways that encircle the walls. All sizes shapes and directions. :)
DD and Tigger
P.S. I have a 11 year old grey tabby, he is the best!
somebody - 09 Feb 2004 07:46 GMT > They are both beautiful babies! I am very sorry for your loss. I know what > it is like to loose something that dear to you, such as a feline companion. > > Milly definitly needs a playmate right away. I do hope that you will find a > suitable one for her. You take good care of them, so I think that you will > make the right decisions for your little ones. My mum got one today while I was at work :) Milly so far doesn't like her, but I hope it passes .Milly's probably still upset about Molly. This kitten is about half the size of Milly though and obviously doesn't care about manners. She's been eating out of Milly's bowl and has just came in and taken over.
> There is nothing wrong with them having their own room! As long as they > have plenty of things to climb on, and play with, then they should be fine. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > P.S. I have a 11 year old grey tabby, he is the best! Dik F. Liu - 10 Feb 2004 04:51 GMT >My mum got one today while I was at work :) Milly so far doesn't like her, >but I hope it passes .Milly's probably still upset about Molly. Do introduce them slowly. Milly is still a kitten; so in time he should be able to adjust to the new kitten. Right now, you might be questioning the wisdom of bringing in a new kitten as the two don't get along. But it is for Milly's best interest to have a companion since, as you and your mother both work full-time, it isn't healthy for him to be by himself. Good luck with your new kitten.
Dik
somebody - 10 Feb 2004 12:05 GMT > >My mum got one today while I was at work :) Milly so far doesn't like her, > >but I hope it passes .Milly's probably still upset about Molly. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > interest to have a companion since, as you and your mother both work full-time, > it isn't healthy for him to be by himself. Good luck with your new kitten. Thanks for the advice. Milly seems to be getting more active now. At least they aren't fighting like they were at first. This new one is a little bossy though. She's just waltzed in and poor Mil is too scared to go near her - it's like a little gremlin! :) I really feel sorry for Milly. I've never loved a pet the way I loved Molly and Milly. That's why I've taken it so hard, and Milly has too.
I've created a collage-type thing that I've sent off to get printed and framed. Here is what it should look like when it's finished (I've shrunk it quite a bit so people can download it at ease):
http://hostforge.net/~bjg/mol/molly-frame.jpg
I put one in there of Milly with Molly because they were like one together. Without one or the other it just didn't and doesn't feel right. They were born together and were always around each other even out of all their litters (both from diff mothers, but were born within a few hours of each other).
Cheryl - 11 Feb 2004 01:47 GMT > I've created a collage-type thing that I've sent off to get printed > and framed. Here is what it should look like when it's finished (I've [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > out of all their litters (both from diff mothers, but were born within > a few hours of each other). I love it. I did something similar when my Marley died and it was healing to go through pictures and come up with the best to showcase, even though it brought on a lot of tears while looking at them. His pictures were all from before I got a digital camera so they are all in hard print.
 Signature Cheryl
Trapped like rats. In a chia-pet. MIB II
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