On Sun 04 Sep 2005 07:16:57p,  wrote in alt.cats
(news:1125875817.141380.302270@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com):

My heart goes out to you!  First things first - has he been to the
vet to rule out any physical problems? You say he's gotten worse in
the last few months. He could have a urinary tract infection, or
possibly something else is bothering him and he can't tell you, so he
acts out.

I don't know who's more at fault here, you or your cat. Your question
is"How do we stop this cat from peeing!?" You've allowed him to do it for
how many years?   After the first time he sprayed what  steps did  you take
to stop it, after the  second, tenth. 100th, 500th...........It's reinforced
behavior by now.  Every time you allowed it you indicated " yes, it's O.K." .
Cats learn by reinforced behavior, even if you were angry  that does nothing
to correct what, by actions, you  were allowing. because  if you weren't
allowing it what steps did you take to  correct it?   Is your cat neutered?
That's one big reason for a  cat  spraying.  Did you try DirectStop, Feliway?
and any other indoor cat deterrent( of which there are several on the market),
or did you wait while the tiles lifted and peeled back and then looked at the
damage of  five or more years and blame the cat.  Yes , the cat is exhibiting
the behavior but  it was up to you to find the answer long before this and
who's fault is it if , after all this time an answer wasn't found? Is the cat
going to pay the penalty because you didn't? It took time to reinforce this
behavior and it could take time to undo it. Neurotic cat? I don't think so.
I think  this   was  a normal cat who's  owners were inadequate to  correct
the start of unacceptable behavior so they  reinforced it instead. Now they
don't want the problem anymore  and may not wish to put in the time needed to
undo what they allowed for so many years. Handing the cat over to an animal
shelter  is pretty well  giving the cat a death sentence in many parts of the
country. If you can't cope with  what you have created , rather than  kill
the cat, who is innocent in all of this,  please have enough consideration to
look for a rescue group that  can step in and   provide the help that you
can't. For the site below, click on the country, the state, then each of the
numbers for a complete list of rescue groups and other animal welfare
organizations in your area, Rescue groups are  more likely to rehome. You'd
have to check the shelters listed to see that they are no- kill, that is, if
you care enough to do so.

Does the back door have a flap where other cats or critters can get
in? Do you have problems with other unknown cats hanging around the
outside of the door? Maybe he's spraying as a way of marking (just a
guess). If he's picking up stranger's odors, then maybe solving that
problem will end the spraying.

If you don't have a flap in the door, maybe adding one will encourage
him to go outside and pee. Again just a guess.

If it's not a marking behavior because of stranger's odors, and you've
eliminated health issues as a source of the problem by going to the
vet, and the adding a door flap thing doesn't work, it sounds as
though you might have to build him a nice comfy and warm cat house
outside near the door and keep him there most of the time.

HOWEDY dippenflipper,

You can't IGNORE anxiety behaviors and not
expect them to progress, dippenflipper.

"...all the highest nervous activity, as it manifests
tself in the conditional reflex, consists of a continual
change of these three fundamental processes -- excitation,
inhibition and disinhibition."  Ivan P. Pavlov

No, they're just the continuation and natural progression of
what your kat has been sayin for seven years pryor to that.

"...all the highest nervous activity, as it manifests
tself in the conditional reflex, consists of a continual
change of these three fundamental processes -- excitation,
inhibition and disinhibition."  Ivan P. Pavlov

He claws stuff because he's ANGRY and AFRAID.

"...all the highest nervous activity, as it manifests
tself in the conditional reflex, consists of a continual
change of these three fundamental processes -- excitation,
inhibition and disinhibition."  Ivan P. Pavlov

He sprays because he's angry and afraid.

"...all the highest nervous activity, as it manifests
tself in the conditional reflex, consists of a continual
change of these three fundamental processes -- excitation,
inhibition and disinhibition."  Ivan P. Pavlov

He wants to ESCAPE because he's angry and afraid.

"...all the highest nervous activity, as it manifests
tself in the conditional reflex, consists of a continual
change of these three fundamental processes -- excitation,
inhibition and disinhibition."  Ivan P. Pavlov

Of curse. This got NUTHING to do with KAT BEHAVIOR.

But not the kind he needs.

That's irrelevent.

Well then, why is he angry and afraid?

"It is NO WONDER that the marked changes in
deviant behavior of children can be achieved
through brief, simple educative routines with
their mothers which modify the mother's social
behaviors shaping the child (Whaler, 1966). Some
clinics have reported ELIMINATION ofthe need for
child THERAPY through changing the clinical emphasis
from clinical to parental HANDLING of the child
(Szrynski 1965).

A large number of cases improved sufficiently after
preliminary contact with parents that NO treatment
of children was required, and almost ALL cases
SHOWE a remarkably shortened period for therapy.
Quite severe cases of anorexia nervosa have been
treated in own to five months by simply REPLACING
the parents temporarily with EFFUSIVELY LOVING
SUBSTITUTES (Groen, 1966)."

Oh? How long has the other kat been with him?

Oh. That'll make them angry and afraid.

You can CURE ANY behavior problem NEARLY INSTANTLY
simply by doing EVERY THING EXXXACTLY PRECISELY
OPPOSITE of how you've been taught by the experts.

             <{#}: ~ } >           < { ~ :{@}>
   <{#}: ~ } >                               < { ~ :{@}>
   <{#}: ~ } >          Here's HOWE:         < { ~ :{@}>
   <{#}: ~ } >                               < { ~ :{@}>
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   <{#}: ~ } >                               < { ~ :{@}>
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Bed Time Calming / Fear Of Thunder / Car Sickness /
Submissive Urination / Obsessive Compulsive Masturbation /
Chronic Urinary Tract / Bladder / Irritable BHOWEL /
Obsessive Compulsive Marking / Spraying / Defecating
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RIGHT! THAT'S WHY HE SPRAYS.

Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 09:41:01 -0500
From: "George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D."
<drv...@mindspring.com>
Subject: "time-out"

Dan, my own firm hatred of punishment has
recently been intensified by meeting The
Puppy Wizard, Jerry Howe, whose work with
dogs is marvelous.

There is a literature on harms caused by time
out, and perhaps you'd like to look at
http://www.dogydoright.com
George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D., F.R.S.H.

"As Sam Corson (Pavlov's last student) demonstrated for
nearly 50 years at Ohio University (Oxford, O.) there
is no treatment more useful for dogs than tender loving
care."

George von Hilsheimer, Ph. D., F. R. S. H., Diplomate,
Academy of Behavioral Medicine

From: "George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D." <drv...@mindspring.com
To: <d...@arcane-computing.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 5:38 PM
Subject: Doggy advice

Scott, Jerry Howe forwarded me the letter below.
I'm glad that you referred negatively to Jerry's
habit of CAPITALIZING and HOWEING everything.

I personally hate this habit of his. I think it is his
way of diluting his authority - IME he is a very modest
fellow. However, contrary to your sneer, he is very
competent at living with dogs.

I thought I'd list a series of actions which I found
on the list, folk asking advice on what to do about
dogs doing this and that, for example:

whining,
humping, hunching,
pacing,
self mutilation - paw licking, side sucking,
spinning,
prolonged barking, barking at shadows,
overstimulated barking,
fighting, bullying other dogs,
compulsive digging,
compulsive scratching,
compulsive chewing,
frantic behavior,
chasing light, chasing shadow,
stealing food,
digging in garbage can,
loosing house (toilet) training.
inappropriate fearfulness
aggression.

The thing that is fascinating to me, as an ethologist who
graduated from college 50 years ago and has spent all of
the intervening time working with animals (including the
human animal), is that you never see any of these behaviors
in wild dingoes, jackals, coyotes or wolves, you don't even
see these behaviors in hyenas (who aren't dog related).

You see these behaviors in human managed animals, especially
animals who live with neurotic hysterical humans.

As Sam Corson (Pavlov's last student) demonstrated for
nearly 50 years at Ohio University (Oxford, O.) there
is no treatment more useful for dogs than tender loving
care.

George von Hilsheimer, Ph. D., F. R. S. H., Diplomate,
Academy of Behavioral Medicine

"The IMBECILITY of some of the claims for operant
technique simply take the breath away. Lovas et al
(1966) report a standard contingent reward/punishment
procedure developing imitative speech in two severly
disturbed non verbal schizophrenic boys. After twenty-
six days the boys are reported to have been learning
new words with alacrity. HOWEver, when REWARDS
were moved to a delayed contingency the behavior and
learning immediately deteriorated."

From: "George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D."
<drv...@mindspring.com>

To: <pdd-aspy...@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 9:31 AM
Subject: How does diagnosis shape treatment?

How does diagnosis shape treatment?

Nearly every week I have a visit from Jerry Howe, who
publicizes himself as The Puppy Wizard. Jerry is a
master at behavioral modification of dogs.

His fundamental bedrock is the work Pavlov's last student,
the late Sam Corson, Ph.D., did at the U of Ohio (at Oxford,O).

Sam always pointed out if the dog stopped working for
you in the lab, Pavlov and he always took the dog away
from the lab, and put him in a loving home and gave him
TLC for a couple of months, and then started, very carefully,
over again.

Jerry believes that reward and constraint focused training
is immoral. I've watched him in one short session calm
impossible dogs, just about to be murdered (oops "put to
sleep") because of their "incorrigibly" violent behavior.

Sam was one of the first people to apply amphetamine to
hyperactivity (he searched the Middle West for hyperactive
dogs); but he never lost sight of the fundamental reality that
a dog is not a human, but does respond, doggily, to dog love.

You might be surprised to go to B. F. Skinner's "Cumulative
Record" and read the essay by Breland and Breland, "The
Misbehavior of Organisms".

Animals cannot be successfully trained unless the trainer
attends to the evolutionary history, the individual's
developmental history, and the environmental niche of
the animal being trained.

Yep, right there in Skinner's last and summary book.
Even with behavior mod, you must know the animal.

<snip>

       Dogs or little boys, you have to know the individual
       history, and the nature of he disorder.

       Dr. Von

       PS if you are interested in dogs, then take
       a look at Jerry's work.

         Dr. George VonHilsheimer writes in

         "Is there a SCIENCE of BEHAVIOR?":

"Valette 1966 is a complete trivialization of
scientific findings. It overstates the case for
reinforcement theory. No careful researcher
would contend that operant techniques CAN ANY
THING MORE than modify SHORT TERM BEHAVIOR in
a highly controlled and limited environment
with a large number of skillful experimenters.

Certainly the most elaborate studies have shown
that the withdrawal or temprary inefficiency of
the reward system is immediately followed by
CESSATION of the programmed behavior.

In fortunate contrast to this depressing paper
is the research reported by Whelan (1966) who
makes the simple but profHOWEND caveat that
"It is only through CORRECT, EFFICIENT APPLICATION
(of operant principles) that children's behavor can
be changed to the extent that they can subsequently
contribute to the REAL WORLD in which they live." "

  "The Methods, Principles, And Philosophy Of Behavior
                   Never Change,
   Or They'd Not Be Scientific And Could Not Obtain
     Consistent, Reliable, Fast, Effective Results
           For All Handler's And All Dogs,
           ALL OVER THE WHOLE WILD WORLD,
                NEARLY INSTANTLY,
  As Taught In Your FREE Copy Of The Puppy Wizard's
   FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual,"
            The Puppy Wizard. <{} ; ~ )  >

Dr. Von continues:

"Whelan illustrates the simple nature or the
learning process by referring to Ferster's
engaging study of two three year old
chimpanzees taught mathematics through
simple procedures. Whelan carries this
EVIDENCE a step futher by pointing HOWET
it's applicability to disturbed children."

      You Get The Critter You Trained

              A Dog Is A Dog
            As A Kat Is A Kat
          As A Birdie Is A Birdie
           As A Child Is A Child
        As A SP-HOWES Is a SP-HOWES.

       ALL Critters Only Respond In
  PREDICTABLE INNATE NORMAL NATURAL INSTINCTIVE
              REFLEXIVE Ways
To Situations And Circumstances Of Their Environment
         Which We Create For Them.

        Damn The Descartean War of
          "Nature Vs Nurture."
    We Teach By HOWER Words And Actions
       And GET BACK What We TAUGHT.

  In The Problem Animal Behavior BUSINESS
          FAILURE MEANS DEATH.
              SAME SAME,
 For The Problem Child Behavior BUSINESS.

Dr. Von continues:

"If chimpanzees CAN LEARN mathematics through step
by step learning AT THEIR OWN PACE, reinforced
primarily by CORRECT ANSWERS rather than with
"fruit loops and rasins", we can assume that even
developmentally RETARDED or CONfHOWENDED children
CAN LEARN as well.

Moreover, Whelan makes the EXXXTREMELY important
point that while most teachers assume that learning
takes place verbally, primarily it is a non verbal
process..

Unfortunately Whelan limits himself to the problem
that "teachers must not only modify or remove specific
deviant behaviors, but must also develop socially
acceptable behavior patterns in the classroom and
classroom conditioned goals, NOT LEARNING.

Other researchers have emphasized the importance
of adult behaviors in conditioning classroom behavior.
An EXXXCELLENT review of this research showd that
tantrum behavior, excessive crawling and dependency,
isolated play, passivity, spelling failure, and other
problem behaviors can be managed by altering habitual
adult responses to children (Harris, Wolf and Baer, 1964) .

Such RESEARCH holds GREATER PROMISE in that alteration
of the conditioning social environment seems to provide
more STABLE and LASTING CHANGES than "M and M's". Moreover,
a great deal of work has been done developing EFFECTIVE
techniques of behavior modificaton through the conditioning
social environment of peers (Hartup, 1964). These directions
would seem more PRODUCTIVE than a simple minded trainslation
of the Skinner cage to the classroom.

Skinner (1963) pointed HOWET that operant techniques
can "be utilized fully ONLY IF we REDEFINE the GOALS
of education and the CONDITIONS in the educational
environment under which those goals may be reached...
(through) a DIFFERENT KIND of educational research
which is much more closely concerned with the immediate
dimensions of the student's behavior than with gross
changes such as IMPROVED PERFORMANCES."

UNFORTUNATELY, neither Skinner nor ANY OTHER
learning theorist has provided us with a working
model of a school or research enterprise based
on systemic and thorough-going APPLICATION of
LEARNING PRINCIPLES.

Skinner (1948, 1953) approaches a definition of the
philosophical issues involved, and provides an utopian
model of a school, but generally psychologists seem
STUCK at a level of MANAGEMENT of an aggressively
disturbing child in the classroom, through peer approval,
or the aplication of accelerating CONsequences in the
classroom, or scientifically S-HOWENDING tactics like
"TIME HOWET" (which we used to know more simply
as "sendin the kid to the cloakroom").

Hobbs (op. cit.) claims that the classroom is a
natural environement for the child. Thelen (1965)
contends that "classroom practices are UNnatural,
UNreasonable, and 'against NATURE.' "This would
seem the central issue for the philosophy of education.
Mere trivial application of research findings to an
institution essentially unchanged from Sumerian academies
(Kramer, 1962) will NOT create useful teaching for
human beings.

It seems relevant to ask EXXXACTLY WHAT do we know
abHOWET the learning situation in which HOWER children
find themselves, and why, in the light of HOWER knowledge,
do we do any of the things that schools do?"

We know that there is little agreement among adults
as to what it is they are SUPPOSED to be DOING,
what something to do could be that MIGHT be
EFFECTVE, and what it IS that other people who
have authority over children ought to be doing (Mc-
Eachern and Taylor, 1967). Wherefor the child's
CONfusiHOWEN?

He wants you to PUNISH HIM SOMEMORE.

Yeah. That's because YOU TRAINED HIM TO PISS and RUN.

I got WON QUESTION: DO YOU WANT TO CURE THIS
PROBLEM NEARLY INSTANTLY OR NOT? If not, just
continue listening to the imbeciles who'll tell
you to continue doin what you been doin. OtherWIZE
it BEHOOVES YOU to STOP DOIN what you've been doin
and STUDY your own FREE COPY of The Amazing Puppy
Wizard's 100% CONSISTENTLY NEARLY INSTANTLY SUCCESSFUL
FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual and
substitute the words dog or puppy with kat or kitten
and FOLLOW THE METHODS PRECISELY and you'll CURE
these behavior problems IN WON DAY otherWIZE you'll
KNOW you kat is SICK and needs to go to the vet.

             <{#}: ~ } >           < { ~ :{@}>
   <{#}: ~ } >                               < { ~ :{@}>
   <{#}: ~ } >          Here's HOWE:         < { ~ :{@}>
   <{#}: ~ } >                               < { ~ :{@}>
   <{#}: ~ } >  http://www.tinyurl.com/7bl5u < { ~ :{@}>
   <{#}: ~ } >                               < { ~ :{@}>
   <{#}: ~ } >                               < { ~ :{@}>
             <{#}: ~ } >           < { ~ :{@}>

Probably should have tried to CURE his other
temperament and behavior problems over the
past ten years instead of waiting till he's
gone totally off the deep end.

You'll have to learn to PRAISE HIM IN ADVANCE
and rely on EFFECTIVE NON PHYSICAL SCIENTIFIC
and PSYCHOLOGICAL conditioning techniques as
taught in your own FREE COPY of The Amazing
Puppy Wizard's 100% CONSISTENTLY NEARLY INSTANTLY
SUCCESSFUL FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method
Manual.

"I Am Willing To Take Jerry's Theory On
How Dogs Think As A Likely One, Simply
Because The Dog Training Methodology
He Describes (Based On His Suppositions)
Works So Well," Lisa B.

Jerry's Dog Training Manual

From: Marshall Dermer (der...@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu)
Subject: Re: Jerry's Dog Training Manual
Date: 2001-07-10 13:34:38 PST

In article <HRI27.3908$187.184...@news-re­p.ab.videon.ca> "Jenn"

<d...@try.it> writes:

Could you be so kind as to post here the
section from Jerry's manual where he
writes that you should JUST praise the
dog when it barks?????????

 As I recall, I thought he first advocates
distracting the dog from barking, with
keys or the soft sound of pennies in a
can, before praising.

Perhaps you can tutor me regarding
Jerry's system.

Thanks in advance!

--Marshall Dermer

PS: I don't read Jerry's posts but I look
forward to your post.

From: Marshall Dermer (der...@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu)
Subject: Re: Clicker training "stay"
Date: 2001-06-21 20:25:38 PST

In article <iqtY6.5456$rA2.1119...@news-r­ep.ab.videon.ca> "Jenn"

<d...@try.it> writes:

BWWWWWEEEJAJAJAJAJAJAAAAA!!!

I'm not Jerry but sure you could use a clicker to
distract a dog but that is not the purpose of a clicker.

You can also use a teaspoon to cut steak but that
is not the purpose of teaspoon!

--Marshall

Hi Marshall,

I'll do my best to answer you... please bear with me, ok?  :-)

Marshall Dermer wrote:

Of course, it isn't necessary at all to know how dogs think,
or even if they *do* think.  I believe that they do, but of
course I can't prove it, and neither can Jerry.

The heart of the matter is, the discussion in the manual
regarding "how dogs think" is part of a wholistic approach to
dog training.

It helps to comprehend the reasoning behind the
methodology.  The methodology works quickly
and easily, therefore lending credence (as far as
I'm concerned) to his theory of how dogs think.

It's the same sort of thing regarding theories of whether the
earth revolves around the sun, or contrariwise.  Is it possible
to send a rocket to the moon, based on the assumption
that the sun revolves around the earth?

The answer is, of course, yes, though it would most likely
be enormously complicated.  The better solution is to begin
with the theory that the earth revolves arou­nd the sun.

In other words, the simplest answer or description is the
best, even though it may not be empirically provable.

And so, I am willing to take Jerry's theory on how dogs
think as a likely one, simply because the dog training
methodology he describes (based on his suppositions)
works so well.

I hope this helps you to understand from which perspective
I say the things that I do about Jerry's method and manual.

regards,
Lisa

"If I Knew It Would Be That Easy, I Would Have
Done This A Long Time Ago Saving Myself 5 Years
Of Dealing With A Bouncy, Over Excited Dog!" Jenn.

           "Speech is a mirror of the soul: as a man speaks,
                          so is he."
           Publilius Syrus, First century B.C., Maxim 1073

                      "We are what we do."

From: Marshall Dermer (der...@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu)
Subject: Re: Jerry's Dog Training Manual
Date: 2001-07-12 06:49:13 PST

And how do we know this aspect of his advice is right?

Jerry is not God and his manual is not the Bible.

His advice could be subject to an empirical analysis.

--Marshall

================
"Marshall Dermer" <der...@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu>
wrote in message news:9ihtee$7ib$1@uwm.edu...

From: Paul B (NOSPAMpand...@zfree.co.nz)
Subject: Re: Jerry's Dog Training Manual
Date: 2001-07-12 00:13:28 PST

Hello Marshall,

The way I view it from my observation of how
my dogs react is that the distraction interrupts
the dogs thought, not for good or bad, just
interrupts, the dog is therefore distracted for
a second and then will either continue the
behaviour or do something else.

The praise reassures the dog that the sound
distraction is not a threat or punishment,
however if everytime the dog resumes a
particular behaviour it's distracted immediately
(and praised immediately for reassurance) then
it quickly decides this behaviour is not fulfilling
and it ceases.

A dog will offer another behaviour in it's place
and if that is acceptable to us then we let it be
otherwise the distraction continues until a suitable
alternate behaviour is offered.

One example, Sam used to jump up on me
when I arrived home, I would shake can to
distract him right at the moment he was
about to jump up, after about 4 repetitions
he tried sitting and offering me his paw, of
course this was fine so I let it be.

While the concept of shake cans is not new,
I haven't read any other advice that says to
praise immediately regardless of what the
dog does next (the common advice is to
praise once the dog is doing a desired
behaviour or at least stopped the unwanted
behaviour), this is unique to Jerry (and Marilyn)
and from my own experiences is an important
part of the process.

Nuthin EXXXCEPT HOWE IT'S DONE.

From: Marshall Dermer (der...@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu)
Subject: Re: Jerry's Dog Training Manual
Date: 2001-07-10 13:34:38 PST

In article <HRI27.3908$187.184...@news-rep.ab.videon.ca> "Jenn"
<d...@try.it> writes:

Could you be so kind as to post here the
section from Jerry's manual where he
writes that you should JUST praise the
dog when it barks?????????

 As I recall, I thought he first advocates
distracting the dog from barking, with
keys or the soft sound of pennies in a
can, before praising.

Perhaps you can tutor me regarding
Jerry's system.

Thanks in advance!

--Marshall Dermer

PS: I don't read Jerry's posts but I look
forward to your post.

From: Marshall Dermer (der...@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu)
Subject: Re: Clicker training "stay"
Date: 2001-06-21 20:25:38 PST

In article <iqtY6.5456$rA2.1119...@news-rep.ab.videon.ca> "Jenn"
<d...@try.it> writes:

BWWWWWEEEJAJAJAJAJAJAAAAA!!!

I'm not Jerry but sure you could use a clicker to
distract a dog but that is not the purpose of a clicker.

You can also use a teaspoon to cut steak but that
is not the purpose of teaspoon!

--Marshall

"Dan Moore" <mooret...@worldnet.att.net>
wrote in message
news:fS2Lc.114567$OB3.42357@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net.

"If I Knew It Would Be That Easy, I Would Have
Done This A Long Time Ago Saving Myself 5 Years
Of Dealing With A Bouncy, Over Excited Dog!" Jenn.

     "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress
                       can be judged
             by the way its animals are treated."
                    ~ Mohandas Gandhi --
           Adapted with permission from his FREE
           copy of The Puppy Wizard's FREE Wits'
           End Dog Training Method Manual. <}TPW ; ~ )  >

            Force training JERRYIZES dogs
                 and GETS THEM DEAD.

       > From: "Marshall Dermer"
       > <der...@csd.uwm.edu>
       > To: "The Puppy Wizard"
       > <ThePuppyWiz...@earthlink.net>
       > Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 2:53 PM

       > Subject: God Bless The Puppy Wizard

       > Dear Mr. Puppy Wizard,

       > I have, of late, come to recognize your
       > genius and now must applaud your attempts
       > to save animals from painful training procedures.

       > You are indeed a hero, a man of exceptional
       > talent, who tirelessly devotes his days to
       > crafting posts to alert the world to animal
       > abuse.

       > We are lucky to have you, and more people
       > should come to their senses and support
       > your valuable work.

       > Have you thought of establishing a nonprofit
       > charity to fund your important work?

       > Have you thought about holding a press
       > conference so others can learn of your
       > highly worthwhile and significant work?

       > In closing, my only suggestion is that you
       > try to keep your messages short for most
       > readers may refuse to read a long message
       > even if it is from the wise, heroic Puppy
       > Wizard.

       > I wish you well in your endeavors.

       > --Marshall Dermer
       > Marshall Dermer/Associate Professor/
       > Behavior Analysis Specialty/Department
       > of Psychology/University of Wisconsin-
       > Milwaukee/Milwaukee,WI 53201
       > der...@uwm.edu
       > http://www.uwm.edu/~dermer
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           All truth passes through three stages.
                        First, it is ridiculed.
               Second, it is violently opposed.
         Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
                     -Arthur Schopenhauer

          "Thank you for fighting the fine fight--
              even tho it's a hopeless task,
                   in this system of things.
               As long as man is ruling man,
            there will be animals (and humans!)
                  abused and neglected. :-(
                    Your student," Juanita.

         "If you've got them by the balls their hearts
                    and minds will follow,"
                          John Wayne.

               The Amazing Puppy Wizard. <{} ; ~  )  >

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                 The Amazing Pussy Wizard <{@); ~ } >

                   http://www.tinyurl.com/7bl5u

            Please DON'T BE The Amazing Pussy Wizard's PREY.

                         IT AIN'T PRETTY.

                            <{@); ~ } >

I see that you haven't mentioned that you've taken your cat to the vet.
Inappropriate urnitation and elimination can be as a result of medical
problems so these should be ruled out first. If a cat is suffering from a
medical problem, no amount of punishing will work, seeing as peeing and
pooping in inappropriate places is a cats way of telling us that something
is wrong.

I'm quite surprised that you've let this go on so long. My heart goes out to
your cat!