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AKA gray asphalt - 04 Sep 2005 23:17 GMT
They look young, 6 weeks. They are sitting in our
living room. We could take them back to the yard
of the lady who dropped them off and they could
be with their mothers (8 kittens; two mother) or we
could buy a cage (s), trap the mothers and keep them
for a couple of weeks with the kittens, they spay release
and find homes for the kittens which we've had real
good luck with, but with older non feral. We've go
two ferals of our own that are adults now and are
pretty well adjusted (whole nother story). We're
maxed out as far as the number of cats we can keep
without overcrowding and behavior problems and
I'm not sure what 8 kittens will do to add problems.

Thanks for your swift advice.
AKA gray asphalt - 05 Sep 2005 00:34 GMT
Please someone answer this. Can we substitute
for the mother by taking really good personal
care of them? They have their teeth and my wife
says they aren't nursing any more but I doubt that.
She just wants to keep them right away. If no one
answers I'm going to get the cage and trap the mom's
if I can.

I son't seem to be asking the right questions.
Cheryl - 05 Sep 2005 01:10 GMT
> They look young, 6 weeks. They are sitting in our
> living room. We could take them back to the yard
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>
> Thanks for your swift advice.

I have a houseful, too, including a former feral that is only
somewhat adjusted, so I'd be worried with your situation, too. I
think at 6 weeks you could socialize them without the mom(s) but
that also leaves them out there just to have more litters. If the
stress level is such that you can't keep the kittens with the moms
for another few weeks, I'd certainly just have the moms spayed, and
keep the kittens, release the moms and find homes for the kittens
in a few weeks.

Just my .02cents but only based on emotion, not experience.  Bless
you for taking in the babies. You done good.

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whayface - 05 Sep 2005 15:07 GMT
>> They look young, 6 weeks. They are sitting in our
>> living room. We could take them back to the yard
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>keep the kittens, release the moms and find homes for the kittens
>in a few weeks.

We had a 4 year old pregnant tortie hanging around and she used to sneak in the garage
whenever we left it open (Was just used for storage - no car) and one day she never showed
up to eat.

While putting stuff in garage one day we heard kittens and eventualy found Kitty (The
tortie) had her kittens in the attic of garage.  We kept the garage closed up then with a
litter box and food.  When the kittens were big enough for weaning we would feed them and
in the process Kitty would come and set off to the side and keep an eye on her babies.  As
time went on she would become more trusting and come closed and let us pet her.

We found homes for all six of the babies and had Kitty spayed.  After spaying we kept her
in house until she healed.  When she was better we would let her out at night when she
wanted and she always would be back and setting at the door whenever we checked for her
but as time passed she wanted out less and less.  When winter came she would stick her
head out when we opened the door but hurried right back in.  Now at 13 years old she is a
indoor only cat and never even goes to the door except when I come in after being gone.

I guess what I am trying to say is that is you could keep the mothers with the kittens
that maybe in the process of socializing the babies the mothers might tame down also.

Good luck to you and the kittens.
MaryL - 05 Sep 2005 02:46 GMT
> They look young, 6 weeks. They are sitting in our
> living room. We could take them back to the yard
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>
> Thanks for your swift advice.

If possible, trap the moms and keep them with the kits for a few weeks.
Kittens should remain with the mother until at least 10 weeks, and 12 weeks
is better.  However, do *not* take them back to the yard where they were
found.  The likelihood of catching them all again would be slim, and you
could end up with more feral (and later pregnant) cats.  As you have already
mentioned, be sure to spay all of them, including the mothers.

MaryL
Rhonda - 05 Sep 2005 04:57 GMT
Hi there,

You might want to post this in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, and
rec.pets.cats.rescue.

Six weeks is normally a bit early -- but I believe someone who worked
with feral kittens said that's the time they take them away from feral
mothers to ensure socialization. It wouldn't hurt to ask a vet or a
rescue organization, even the Humane Society for advice.

Our former ferals were 10 weeks old (vet's approximation) and they were
right on the edge, time-wise, of not being able to socialize. Our vet at
the time said the cut-off is about 2 months old, but I know there are
always exceptions. Ours are still a little skitterish (at 3 years old)
but we are happy with how quickly they came around.

Good luck!

Rhonda

> They look young, 6 weeks. They are sitting in our
> living room. We could take them back to the yard
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> Thanks for your swift advice.
BarB - 05 Sep 2005 17:12 GMT
>They look young, 6 weeks. They are sitting in our
>living room. We could take them back to the yard
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>without overcrowding and behavior problems and
>I'm not sure what 8 kittens will do to add problems.

If the kittens are 6 weeks they may be ready to wean even though it's
a few weeks early. We get kittens into rescue at that age which can
be weaned. Try some replacement formula ( At any pet store) or goat's
milk mixed with kitten food. If they are eating they won't really
need the mother.  

Trap the mothers and have them spayed before they come in heat again,
if they haven't already. I'd keep them caged for about 4 days until
they are healed enough to release. If they are truely feral I
wouldn't try to keep them much longer.

BarB

Good luck
dippenflipper@hotmail.com - 05 Sep 2005 20:55 GMT
Ask your vet. I have seen several kitten formulas available for orphan
kittens. I have no idea whether or not they're effective. Also, I would
have them vaccinated. Alot of ferals have distemper and other things
you wouldn't want passed around.
 
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