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Any good & cheap weighing scale?

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Kiran - 01 Sep 2005 15:15 GMT
I can't afford the premium brands right now, can anybody recommend a
good & cheap scale for weighing a cat?
Karen - 01 Sep 2005 15:44 GMT
LOok on ebay. YOu can get a good digital scale there fairly inexpensively
(around 20 o 30 dollars).

> I can't afford the premium brands right now, can anybody recommend a
> good & cheap scale for weighing a cat?
John Doe - 01 Sep 2005 16:16 GMT
Kiran <kiran@no.email> wrote:

> I can't afford the premium brands right now, can anybody
> recommend a good & cheap scale for weighing a cat?

If you have a friend or can make a friend who has a strong arm (or
two strong arms), by a fish scale.

I recently bought a Berkley fish scale (FS2) at a sporting goods
store. The weight range, 20 pounds, is perfect for cats. It is a
small handheld device with a hook on it (the link is below in my
signature area). The price said $16 but they charged me only $8 on
sale. That model might be discontinued.

You put the cat butt first into a bag. Always remove or place a
cat butt first.

Then you just put the plastic bag loops on the hook and hold up
the fish scale with the cat underneath.  

Signature

http://www.discount-sporting-gear.com/p/Berkley_20_Pound_Digital_Fish_Scale.html

Phil P. - 01 Sep 2005 16:54 GMT
"John Doe" <jdoe@usenet.love.invalid> wrote in message >
> You put the cat butt first into a bag. Always remove or place a
> cat butt first.
>
> Then you just put the plastic bag loops on the hook and hold up
> the fish scale with the cat underneath.

Put a cat in a plastic bag and hang if from a hook???  Are you a stark
raving lunatic or just a complete moron???

I don't think I even have to tell the OP to disregard your utterly asinine
suggestion.

Congratulations!  You just became the new village idiot.
Juls - 01 Sep 2005 19:50 GMT
> "John Doe" <jdoe@usenet.love.invalid> wrote in message >
> > You put the cat butt first into a bag. Always remove or place a
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> Congratulations!  You just became the new village idiot.

Apparently alt.troll is missing theirs.

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John Doe - 02 Sep 2005 02:06 GMT
troll

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> Apparently alt.troll is missing theirs.

             
Phil P. - 02 Sep 2005 03:27 GMT
> > "John Doe" <jdoe@usenet.love.invalid> wrote in message >
> > > You put the cat butt first into a bag. Always remove or place a
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> Apparently alt.troll is missing theirs.

Sadly, he's not a troll- he really is an idiot.  When he was a baby, I think
his parents weighed him in a plastic bag and cut off the oxygen supply to
his brain killing half of it.
Magic Mood Jeep© - 02 Sep 2005 03:50 GMT
>>> "John Doe" <jdoe@usenet.love.invalid> wrote in message >
>>>> You put the cat butt first into a bag. Always remove or place a
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> I think his parents weighed him in a plastic bag and cut off the
> oxygen supply to his brain killing half of it.

Only half?????
Phil P. - 02 Sep 2005 04:58 GMT
> >>> "John Doe" <jdoe@usenet.love.invalid> wrote in message >
> >>>> You put the cat butt first into a bag. Always remove or place a
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>
> Only half?????

I stand corrected. Half of the small part that was partially functional.

I'd bet his parents gave him the name "John Doe" because they didn't want
anyone
to know he is their son.
John Doe - 02 Sep 2005 05:06 GMT
Maybe your cats don't trust you enough to accept you placing them
in a bag. Mine do. Kiki accepts just about everything I do for
her. Kitty, a once extremely timid cat which I rescued from
outside, now allows me to clip his claws like nothing unusual is
happening.

Maybe I am exceptionally easy to trust. Maybe your ego just can't
handle hearing about something that works for someone else which
apparently would never work for you.

Tough guy wanna-be, troll.

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> Only half?????
Phil P. - 02 Sep 2005 05:19 GMT
> Maybe your cats don't trust you enough to accept you placing them
> in a bag.

Such an utterly *stupid* idea would never enter my mind.  Your cats are
probably paralyzed from fear of you.

You don't even realize how utterly stupid and actually cruel your method is,
do you, idiot?
John Doe - 02 Sep 2005 05:50 GMT
> "John Doe" <jdoe usenet.love.invalid> wrote in message

>> Maybe your cats don't trust you enough to accept you placing
>> them in a bag.

> Such an utterly *stupid* idea would never enter my mind.  

Troll.

> Your cats are probably paralyzed from fear of you.

Two times today, I inadvertently left a door open. The first time,
I was gone for a while and when I returned, Kiki was standing in
place about halfway down the stairwell. She was as calm as could
be when I picked her up and carried her back. The second time,
Kitty was on the porch enjoying the sunshine.

And in fact, cats can handle terror very well. But maybe you
didn't know that either.

You are trying too hard to understand why what I do wouldn't work
for you.

And maybe you didn't know that placing a cat butt first or pulling
a cat down butt first works and the other way around doesn't.

> You don't even realize how utterly stupid and actually cruel
> your method is, do you, idiot?

I realize how much your big fat ego is hurt.

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Phil P. - 02 Sep 2005 06:27 GMT
> > "John Doe" <jdoe usenet.love.invalid> wrote in message
>
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> Troll.

You still haven't leaned the difference between flaming and trolling, have
you?  You really are an idiot.

> > Your cats are probably paralyzed from fear of you.

> Two times today, I inadvertently left a door open.

So you only made the same mistake twice in one day.  I'd bet that's a good
day for you.

> And in fact, cats can handle terror very well.

So in your dysfunctional mind, that makes it ok to terrorize cats.

> You are trying too hard to understand why what I do wouldn't work
> for you.

I would never even think of something so utterly stupid and cruel to do a
cat.  My method is humane and actually enjoyable for the cats- and simply
transcends your very limited understanding

> > You don't even realize how utterly stupid and actually cruel
> > your method is, do you, idiot?

> I realize how much your big fat ego is hurt.

Why would the fact that you're an utter idiot hurt my ego?  I do, however,
feel
sorry for your cats.
John Doe - 02 Sep 2005 16:36 GMT
Tough guy wanna-be, troll

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> feel
> sorry for your cats.

             
John Doe - 02 Sep 2005 04:36 GMT
...
> Sadly, he's not a troll- he really is an idiot.  When he was a baby, I think
> his parents weighed him in a plastic bag and cut off the oxygen supply to
> his brain killing half of it.

All talking trash over the Internet means is that you are a tough
guy wanna-be.

Troll.

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Phil P. - 02 Sep 2005 04:56 GMT
> ...
> > Sadly, he's not a troll- he really is an idiot.  When he was a baby, I think
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> All talking trash over the Internet means is that you are a tough
> guy wanna-be.

No- but putting a cat in plastic bag and hanging it from a hook 'means is'
you have the intelligence of a hairball.  How many months did it take you to
come up with that utterly stupid idea?

> Troll.

You don't even know the difference between trolling and flaming, idiot.
John Doe - 02 Sep 2005 05:09 GMT
> "John Doe" <jdoe@usenet.love.invalid> wrote in message

>> All talking trash over the Internet means is that you are a tough
>> guy wanna-be.

> No-

Yes. And that's what you are.
Phil P. - 02 Sep 2005 05:20 GMT
> > "John Doe" <jdoe@usenet.love.invalid> wrote in message
>
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> Yes. And that's what you are.

I talk it like I walk it, idiot.
John Doe - 02 Sep 2005 05:29 GMT
> "John Doe" <jdoe@usenet.love.invalid> wrote in message
>> > "John Doe" <jdoe@usenet.love.invalid> wrote in message

>> >> All talking trash over the Internet means is that you are a
>> >> tough guy wanna-be.
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>
> I talk it like I walk it, idiot.

You can't walk it on the Internet, tough guy wanna-be.
Phil P. - 02 Sep 2005 05:33 GMT
> > "John Doe" <jdoe@usenet.love.invalid> wrote in message
> >> > "John Doe" <jdoe@usenet.love.invalid> wrote in message
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> You can't walk it on the Internet, tough guy wanna-be.

You must be a real paranoid little wimp in RL. BOO! LOL!
John Doe - 02 Sep 2005 05:58 GMT
> "John Doe" <jdoe@usenet.love.invalid> wrote in message

...
>> > I talk it like I walk it, idiot.
>>
>> You can't walk it on the Internet, tough guy wanna-be.

> You must be a real paranoid little wimp in RL.

I'm not afraid you, troll.

> BOO! LOL!

Your every utterance is hilarious (in your head).

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Phil P. - 02 Sep 2005 06:25 GMT
> > "John Doe" <jdoe@usenet.love.invalid> wrote in message
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> I'm not afraid you, troll.

Your stupidity sure scares me!  You don't know what a troll is- or do you
just like to use words of which you don't know the meaning?

Follow these instructions carefully:  Put your cats in carriers and take
them to your vet.  Ask him to find homes for them.  When he asks you why,
tell him you're too stupid to have cats.
John Doe - 02 Sep 2005 16:37 GMT
Tough guy wanna-be, troll

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> them to your vet.  Ask him to find homes for them.  When he asks you why,
> tell him you're too stupid to have cats.

             
John Doe - 02 Sep 2005 16:53 GMT
<snipped a lot of tough talk>

> Your stupidity sure scares me!  You don't know what a troll is-
> or do you just like to use words of which you don't know the
> meaning?

I have helped define English words.

As far as I know, there is no authoritative definition of the word
troll in this context.

Whether you agree matters only in your head.

> Follow these instructions carefully:  Put your cats in carriers
> and take them to your vet.  Ask him to find homes for them.
> When he asks you why, tell him you're too stupid to have cats.

Go to your vet and ask him (or her) about the extremely tough,
very restrictive bag he he zips up to the cat's neck in on a
regular basis. Ask him how much trauma that does to the cat.

Then consider the fact that the bag I use is a featherweight
plastic grocery bag open at one end that could be shredded in an
instant if the 14 pound cat felt like it.

An indignant troll, driven by ignorance and a big ego.

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Phil P. - 02 Sep 2005 18:20 GMT
> <snipped a lot of tough talk>
>
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> I have helped define English words.

You sure define the word 'idiot".  Under the word 'idiot" it
says 'see John Doe". ROTFL!
John Doe - 02 Sep 2005 18:59 GMT
A troll whose every utterance is hilarious (in his head).

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> You sure define the word 'idiot".  Under the word 'idiot" it
> says 'see John Doe". ROTFL!

             
John Doe - 02 Sep 2005 02:06 GMT
troll

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> Congratulations!  You just became the new village idiot.

             
Phil P. - 02 Sep 2005 03:27 GMT
> troll

Nothing escapes your lightening-quick perception!  LOL!
John Doe - 02 Sep 2005 05:22 GMT
> "John Doe" <jdoe@usenet.love.invalid> wrote in message

>> troll
>
> Nothing escapes your lightening-quick perception!  LOL!

You're every utterance is hilarious (in your head).
Phil P. - 02 Sep 2005 05:23 GMT
> > "John Doe" <jdoe@usenet.love.invalid> wrote in message
>
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> You're every utterance is hilarious (in your head).

Yours are *scary*.  Knowing idiots like you have cats makes me tremble
during every adoption.
John Doe - 02 Sep 2005 16:58 GMT
> Yours are *scary*.  Knowing idiots like you have cats makes me
> tremble during every adoption.

Apparently your indignant ignorant troll doesn't know that
veterinarians routinely place cats in a durable bag zipped up to
the cat's neck. What I use is a featherweight plastic grocery bag
that is open at one end.

The only trauma is in your head.

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Phil P. - 02 Sep 2005 18:19 GMT
> > Yours are *scary*.  Knowing idiots like you have cats makes me
> > tremble during every adoption.
>
> Apparently your indignant ignorant troll doesn't know that
> veterinarians routinely place cats in a durable bag zipped up to
> the cat's neck.

That's a restraint bag- moron, and they're *not* used routinely.  Restraint
bags are used only with unmanageable cats.
MaryL - 04 Sep 2005 02:18 GMT
>> Yours are *scary*.  Knowing idiots like you have cats makes me
>> tremble during every adoption.
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As Phil said, that's a restraint bag.  In all my years of pet ownership, I
have *never* seen one of those bags used.  That is not "routine."

MaryL
Kiran - 01 Sep 2005 17:18 GMT
: a fish scale...You put the cat butt first into a bag....Then you just
: put the plastic bag loops on the hook and hold up the fish scale...

Thanks but I need something tame and mundane. As she's likely to try to
jump out or grab something with her paws, I would rather avoid hooks
and other pointed or sharp objects.
Phil P. - 01 Sep 2005 17:30 GMT
> : a fish scale...You put the cat butt first into a bag....Then you just
> : put the plastic bag loops on the hook and hold up the fish scale...
>
> Thanks but I need something tame and mundane. As she's likely to try to
> jump out or grab something with her paws, I would rather avoid hooks
> and other pointed or sharp objects.

If you can't afford a Tanita 1583, here's a pretty good and inexpensive
Health-o-Meter Infant -Baby-Toddler beam scale.

http://tinyurl.com/dhswx
hamandcheese@betweentheknees.com - 01 Sep 2005 19:39 GMT
>> : a fish scale...You put the cat butt first into a bag....Then you just
>> : put the plastic bag loops on the hook and hold up the fish scale...
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> http://tinyurl.com/dhswx

Phil, isn't a beam type of scale rather awkward to operate with a
squirming cat?
-mhd
Phil P. - 01 Sep 2005 22:35 GMT
> >> : a fish scale...You put the cat butt first into a bag....Then you just
> >> : put the plastic bag loops on the hook and hold up the fish scale...
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> squirming cat?
> -mhd

Not really.  The cat shouldn't be squirming because there's no need to even
touch the cat.  Condition the cat to jump on the scale by herself..  The
first day you have the scale, don't try to force the cat onto it.  Let her
sniff and investigate it on her own in her own time- like she investigates
every other new thing you bring home.  After she becomes familiar with the
scale, say 'wanna treat, wanna treat' and toss a few treats on it- do this a
few times.  Make her associate only good things with the scale- never force
her or try to hold her on it.  After a day or two, she'll jump on the scale
on her own when she see the treats and hears you say 'wanna treat'.

Here're a couple of pictures of two of my cats on the scale- its a digital-
but the technique applies equally well for a beam scale.  You might need an
extra minute or two when using a beam scale, so, after the first treat, let
her wait a bit for the next one. That should give you enough time to get a
measurement.

http://www.maxshouse.com/album/Titi-on-scale.jpg

http://www.maxshouse.com/weighing_a_cat_made_easy.htm

Phil
223rem - 01 Sep 2005 23:45 GMT
> http://www.maxshouse.com/album/Titi-on-scale.jpg

The measurement is inaccurate as her tail is resting on the floor!
Upscale - 02 Sep 2005 00:08 GMT
"223rem" <223rem@sbcglobal.com> wrote in message
> > http://www.maxshouse.com/album/Titi-on-scale.jpg
>
> The measurement is inaccurate as her tail is resting on the floor!

And I'm guessing he forgot to take into account the fleas who are along for
the ride.
hamandcheese@betweentheknees.com - 02 Sep 2005 01:45 GMT
>After a day or two, she'll jump on the scale
>on her own when she see the treats and hears you say 'wanna treat'.

Not my guys. They would immediately learn that it is a table to eat
off of :-)

-mhd
Phil P. - 02 Sep 2005 03:27 GMT
> >After a day or two, she'll jump on the scale
> >on her own when she see the treats and hears you say 'wanna treat'.
>
> Not my guys. They would immediately learn that it is a table to eat
> off of :-)

That's just what you want them to do! LOL!
John Doe - 02 Sep 2005 17:14 GMT
>: a fish scale...You put the cat butt first into a bag....Then
>: you just put the plastic bag loops on the hook and hold up the
>: fish scale...

> Thanks but I need something tame and mundane.

I was thinking "good and cheap".

For "tame and mundane", have the veterinarian do it.

> As she's likely to try to jump out or grab something with her
> paws, I would rather avoid hooks and other pointed or sharp
> objects.

There are no pointed or sharp objects. It's accurate, cheap, tiny,
and rarely used.

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Phil P. - 02 Sep 2005 18:20 GMT
"John Doe" <jdoe@usenet.love.invalid> wrote in message

cheap, tiny,
> and rarely used.

Just like your brain (and probably another part of your anatomy).
John Doe - 02 Sep 2005 18:58 GMT
Tough guy wanna-be, troll

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> Just like your brain (and probably another part of your anatomy).

             
Phil P. - 02 Sep 2005 19:22 GMT
> Tough guy wanna-be, troll

You post more "troll" messages than actual information, and the little
information you do manage to post is usually utterly stupid.  At least I
don't have to worry about anyone actually taking your asinine advice since
you've made it abundantly clear that you *are* an idiot.

'Troll" this:  ..|..
carola - 01 Sep 2005 16:53 GMT
:I can't afford the premium brands right now, can anybody recommend a
: good & cheap scale for weighing a cat?

Scales for humans (IKEA is cheap). Take the cat into your arms,
weigh yourself with and without the cat and do the sums.

carola
Jeffrey Kaplan - 01 Sep 2005 19:55 GMT
It is alleged that Kiran claimed:

> I can't afford the premium brands right now, can anybody recommend a
> good & cheap scale for weighing a cat?

If you only care down to the pound or half-pound, just hold the cat and
step onto your bathroom scale and measure.  Then put the cat down on
the floor and weigh just yourself.  The difference is the cat's weight.

If you want down to ounces, I don't have an answer.

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treeline12345@yahoo.com - 02 Sep 2005 01:41 GMT
> It is alleged that Kiran claimed:
>
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>
> If you want down to ounces, I don't have an answer.

I have an answer. Get a scale that weighs down to ounces! I have seen
bathroom scales heavily discounted, digital, that weigh to .2 to even
.1 pounds! .1 pounds is less than 2 ounces, that is, 1/10th of a pound.
Don't know how accurate, but I would guess they should be good to 1/2 a
pound. Some cheap ones are accurate; some are not that I have tried
out. THe cheap 0.1 pounds is probably asking too much if dirt cheap.
Phil P. - 02 Sep 2005 03:26 GMT
>  .1 pounds is less than 2 ounces, that is, 1/10th of a pound.

So that's what ".1 pounds" means!  LOL!
treeline12345@yahoo.com - 02 Sep 2005 03:39 GMT
> >  .1 pounds is less than 2 ounces, that is, 1/10th of a pound.
>
> So that's what ".1 pounds" means!  LOL!

I read a good review of the scales. Ultraship is pretty accurate. The
others can be so-so. It's all a bit confusing.

http://www.digitalscale.com/SHIPPING%20SCALES%20COMPARED.htm

>From 0 to 2 pounds, it's 0.1 ounce but 2 pounds on up, to 30, to 50, to
even 75 pounds, then it's 0.5 ounces.

My Acculab is pretty good for 2 grams to 5 pounds but my cat weighs
more than 5 pounds. She used to weigh only 4.5 pounds and then I could
weigh her really, really accurately, to the gram, well, 2 grams.
Actually it was hard to get her positioned on the 5 pound scale because
1/2 pound is not enough left for a proper tared tray. Of course with
that fish hook scale, I could offset 5 pounds, but that looks gruesome.
ENOUGH.
Ted Davis - 02 Sep 2005 16:57 GMT
>I have an answer. Get a scale that weighs down to ounces! I have seen
>bathroom scales heavily discounted, digital, that weigh to .2 to even
>.1 pounds! .1 pounds is less than 2 ounces, that is, 1/10th of a pound.
>Don't know how accurate, but I would guess they should be good to 1/2 a
>pound. Some cheap ones are accurate; some are not that I have tried
>out. THe cheap 0.1 pounds is probably asking too much if dirt cheap.

I have some repeatability issues with mine, but weighing just the cat
produces numbers within the range that repeat weighing of me+cat and
just me do.  Cat squirming may have something to do with the spread.

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treeline12345@yahoo.com - 02 Sep 2005 01:58 GMT
> I can't afford the premium brands right now, can anybody recommend a
> good & cheap scale for weighing a cat?

If you look on eBay, you can find postal scales that weigh to 5 grams
or 0.1 ounces for around $20 including shipping. They have a HOLD
button. So if you get the cat on the scale, using treats, hit the HOLD
button and you can see the weight later. Most likely the cat's butt
will be in the way while she is on the scale. You can also place a
large tray, hit the TARE button, then the HOLD button for the same
effect. These scales do 36 to 50 pounds so your 4.5 pound cat is not a
problem. I have a scientific scale that does 5 pounds but is not much
better than 0.1 ounces or 2 grams.

Or if you look in office supply stores, they have postal scales for
around $30. This might be a better option so you can see what you are
getting. Some are the spring type. I think the digital will be better
because of the TARE and HOLD buttons and digital is pretty accurate.

Also since it's postal, they really should at least get down to the 1
ounce level which should suffice for your immediate needs. A postal
scale that does not do 1 ounce bins accurately is going to be a major
problem with the post office returning packages.

I think this is an excellent alternative to the $130 scales as I may
have mentioned before.

In fact, I think I will get one too.

I think I discussed this all with Phil P. in another thread. Pay
attention :)
MaryL - 03 Sep 2005 01:49 GMT
>I can't afford the premium brands right now, can anybody recommend a
> good & cheap scale for weighing a cat?

Here is a link to a good-quality inexpensive digital scale:
http://www.toplinedigitalscales.com/catalog.php?action=124&item_id=166

You would need to place a box on this scale, then place the cat in the box.
The scale has a tare function, so you can easily set it to zero after
putting the box on the scale and before placing the cat on the scale.

MaryL

My cats --
Duffy: http://tinyurl.com/cslwf
Holly: http://tinyurl.com/9t68o
Duffy and Holly together: http://tinyurl.com/8b47e
shortfuse - 03 Sep 2005 01:51 GMT
I weigh my cat by weighing myself and then holding a cat and subtract
difference. As for scales, I bought mine at Big Lots for 5.00 and the face
of the scale is big enough to read.

>>I can't afford the premium brands right now, can anybody recommend a
>> good & cheap scale for weighing a cat?
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> Holly: http://tinyurl.com/9t68o
> Duffy and Holly together: http://tinyurl.com/8b47e
MaryL - 03 Sep 2005 02:29 GMT
>I weigh my cat by weighing myself and then holding a cat and subtract
>difference. As for scales, I bought mine at Big Lots for 5.00 and the face
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>> Holly: http://tinyurl.com/9t68o
>> Duffy and Holly together: http://tinyurl.com/8b47e

What are the increments on that scale?  One problem with the method you
cited is that a cat is so small that scales need to measure in very small
increments.  Most of the scales you could buy and use as you described
cannot do that.  An error of 1 pound in a person isn't very important, but
it is *huge* when monitoring a cat's weight.

MaryL
shortfuse - 03 Sep 2005 13:06 GMT
I dont weigh that much either! If it can pick up my weight. Besides, the vet
weighs them,too, and its been in the same area as their calculations (give a
couple lbs that they put on in between visits).

>>I weigh my cat by weighing myself and then holding a cat and subtract
>>difference. As for scales, I bought mine at Big Lots for 5.00 and the face
[quoted text clipped - 25 lines]
>
> MaryL
MaryL - 03 Sep 2005 17:29 GMT
>I dont weigh that much either! If it can pick up my weight. Besides, the
>vet weighs them,too, and its been in the same area as their calculations
>(give a couple lbs that they put on in between visits).

Well, I surely hope that you are joking when you speak of cats putting on a
"couple lbs." between visits -- unless you have cats that are approximately
the size of lions, that is.

MaryL
shortfuse - 03 Sep 2005 17:54 GMT
My older cats are pretty well stable, I was thinking more of Ornery who is
20 weeks old and still growing.
My other cats weigh from 8-15 lbs. I should had included "gained or lost
between visits".
Does that sound better :-)

>>I dont weigh that much either! If it can pick up my weight. Besides, the
>>vet weighs them,too, and its been in the same area as their calculations
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>
> MaryL
treeline12345@yahoo.com - 03 Sep 2005 02:16 GMT
> >I can't afford the premium brands right now, can anybody recommend a
> > good & cheap scale for weighing a cat?
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>
> MaryL

http://www.digitalscale.com/SHIPPING%20SCALES%20COMPARED.htm
"Our test of this scale had it perform within it's 1 ounce resolution
except at higher ranges where it deviated by 6 ounces.  When we put the
scale in it's "ounce only" mode, we found it was surprisingly accurate
at lower ranges.  It had a readability of 0.2oz and accuracy of 0.2oz
until we reached 5lb when slight deviations began to occur.  At 30lb
the scale read 29lb 10oz.  This scale is not recalibratable by the end
user."

Yup, it seems pretty good at weights for a cat. But for the same money,
the Ultraship appears to be more accurate and I am seeing Ultraships up
to 75 pounds which if made as well as the 30 and 50 pound models might
do double or triple duty for shipping, cats, and doggies.

I guess it's a question of money. If I saw this one for half the price
of an Ultraship, I might get it. Most cats are not 30 pounds but it's
annoying the scale can be off almost half a pound or 6 ounces at that
higher range. Not sure it matter but it would to the post office :)
~^Johnny^~ - 06 Sep 2005 19:37 GMT
>Here is a link to a good-quality inexpensive digital scale:
>http://www.toplinedigitalscales.com/catalog.php?action=124&item_id=16
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>zero after  putting the box on the scale and before placing the cat
>on the scale.  

That's exactly how I do it,  with a 30 lb postal scale and a
cardboard box.  My cats generally have little or no trouble lying
still in boxes... in fact,  that's where they spend quite a bit of
time sleeping.  Putting a little warm fresh laundry in the box
usually helps.   :-)

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