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I want a cat, most intelligent cat breed?
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Zeitgeist - 29 Aug 2005 04:34 GMT I live in an apartment and am looking for a cat to keep me company. I'd like to know which breed is the smartest. I've searched Google to no avail, though it seems Persians or Abyssinians seem to be the most intelligent?
rpl - 29 Aug 2005 04:42 GMT > I live in an apartment and am looking for a cat to keep me company. I'd > like to know which breed is the smartest. I've searched Google to no > avail, though it seems Persians or Abyssinians seem to be the most > intelligent? I don't think there's any noticeable difference between breeds in raw intelligence. There are some distinctions in personality, though.
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Judy - 29 Aug 2005 05:01 GMT >I live in an apartment and am looking for a cat to keep me company. I'd > like to know which breed is the smartest. I've searched Google to no > avail, though it seems Persians or Abyssinians seem to be the most > intelligent? When it comes to smarts and intelligence and cats, what are you looking for?
Wayne Boatwright - 29 Aug 2005 05:45 GMT > I live in an apartment and am looking for a cat to keep me company. I'd > like to know which breed is the smartest. I've searched Google to no > avail, though it seems Persians or Abyssinians seem to be the most > intelligent? Do yourself and a deserving cat a favor, and adopt one from a rescue group. Over the years I have had several purebred cats and numerous mixed breeds, and I've never seen a discernable difference in intelligence. Cats are generally very intelligent and become wonderful companions. Each has a distinct personality which, unless you've had experience with numerous cats, you might not know. Mixed breeds are often healthier and live longer.
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Zeitgeist - 29 Aug 2005 05:59 GMT Hello,
Yes, I plan on adopting from an animal shelter. They seem to be around $100 for neutering, shots, and a microchip.
In regards to personality, I would like a cat I can play with and enjoys people. Growing up I had a terrier dog, and she loved people and was filled with energy.
I'd like a cat with blue eyes, the Persians looked awsome. http://www.cfainc.org/breeds/profiles/persian-him.html
> Do yourself and a deserving cat a favor, and adopt one from a rescue group. > Over the years I have had several purebred cats and numerous mixed breeds, > and I've never seen a discernable difference in intelligence. Cats are > generally very intelligent and become wonderful companions. Each has a > distinct personality which, unless you've had experience with numerous cats, > you might not know. Mixed breeds are often healthier and live longer. Ted Davis - 29 Aug 2005 14:25 GMT >In regards to personality, I would like a cat I can play with and >enjoys people. Growing up I had a terrier dog, and she loved people and >was filled with energy. Don't think for a second that cats are anything like dogs. The difference has been put this way
a dog looks at what his human does for him - food grooming, etc. and concludes that the human is a god; a cat looks at the same things and concludes that *it* is a god. At least one human culture has agreed with the cats.
>I'd like a cat with blue eyes, the Persians looked awsome. These are high maintenance cats - *very* high maintenance.
A good compromise would be a random bred cat of the type of my Fleagor: he looks like a cross between a Main Coon Cat and a Russian Blue - low maintenance, but soft longish fur (the color doesn't matter, it's the build and coat that are important (<http://gearbox.maem.umr.edu/tdavis/cats/fleagor.html>)), and a wonderful personality. I also have a cute black and white cat with soft, but not very long fur who is a minimal maintence lap fungus (I haven't done his web page yet - only one poor quality picture is available: <http://gearbox.maem.umr.edu/tdavis/cats/2005/cj_1.jpg>).
All of my cats were free, but for most I had to pay for neutering - they range from strays and "moving, can't keep" to surplus barn kittens.
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Zeitgeist - 29 Aug 2005 18:31 GMT > These are high maintenance cats - *very* high maintenance. Why is that? I guess, unlike dogs, there is no difference of intelligence between the cat breeds.
I looked in the paper but none seem free. I'd much rather have one from an adoption agency where they put a chip on it, they do the shots, neutering, etc.
(PeteCresswell) - 29 Aug 2005 19:59 GMT Per Zeitgeist:
>Why is that? I guess, unlike dogs, there is no difference of >intelligence between the cat breeds. Logically, there has to be... but my take is that cats are so different from dogs in the way they relate to people that one might not notice differences in intelligence as readily.
i.e. Our cat is pretty impressive at doing cat things. For instance, he can be playing with a bottle cap and knock it under a piece of furniture in such a way that he cannot get at it from that side. He will then walk around to the other side of the furniture - where he cannot see the bottle cap - and reach under to bat it back out into the open. That tells me that he has enough brains to hold the concept of the bottle cap's being under there in his little mind long enough to go around to the other side and bat it free.
He's also good at knowing when things are going to happen each day. He knows when we're about to get up, he knows *exactly* when we're going to put out fresh food... and so forth.
But people-wise his IQ seems tb in the single digits - mostly, I think, bc he just doesn't care - he's not part of a pack like dogs are and we're not the alpha males/females to him. Basically it's a relationship of convenience between equals.
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Ted Davis - 29 Aug 2005 21:42 GMT >> These are high maintenance cats - *very* high maintenance. > >Why is that? I guess, unlike dogs, there is no difference of >intelligence between the cat breeds. Persians have to be brushed and combed daily - *at least*. Then, for the ones with the crushed in faces, there are breathing issues that require intervention.
>I looked in the paper but none seem free. I'd much rather have one from >an adoption agency where they put a chip on it, they do the shots, >neutering, etc. Most of mine were found on the local community online want ads pages; some came from just asking around - two, from asking a total stranger who turned out to be a rancher with too many kittens.
BTW, many people who have lived with cats for many years recommend getting at couple of them, preferably from the same litter.
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Wayne Boatwright - 30 Aug 2005 04:41 GMT >>> These are high maintenance cats - *very* high maintenance. >> [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > BTW, many people who have lived with cats for many years recommend > getting at couple of them, preferably from the same litter. We have 5 cats, 2 of which are brothers from the same litter and appear to be identical twins. It was a great choice getting the two of them together. I would do it again.
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carola - 30 Aug 2005 04:42 GMT : >> These are high maintenance cats - *very* high maintenance. : > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] : the ones with the crushed in faces, there are breathing issues that : require intervention. Plus, so says my neighbour who has had Persians for many years, they are rather laid back, not at all like a Jack Russell like the OP wants.
carola
Wayne Boatwright - 29 Aug 2005 14:30 GMT > Hello, > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > I'd like a cat with blue eyes, the Persians looked awsome. > http://www.cfainc.org/breeds/profiles/persian-him.html I think most cats will be playful if given the opportunity, attention, and an assortment of things to play with. Notice, I didn't say "cat toys". Even though my cats have plenty of toys, they often choose little things they find around the house to play with.
Every cat has a different personality. We currently have 5 cats and each is as different as can be. We have 3 tuxedo cats, two boys and a girl, and they have proven to be the most playful and mischievous of all the cats I've ever owned.
If you have a PetSmart in your area, chances are they have cats for adoption. The agencies that bring those cats in often have experience in fostering some of them and might be able to tell you about their personality.
I'm glad you're going to adopt. I have nothing against breeders or purebred cats, but I know that they are all assured of having a home. The orphans are not, and they're so lucky when someone like you or me wants to take one home.
If you haven't actually looked yet, you'll probably be surprised at the variety of cats you find at the shelters and at PetSmart.
Good luck!
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-L. - 30 Aug 2005 10:29 GMT > Hello, > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > I'd like a cat with blue eyes, the Persians looked awsome. > http://www.cfainc.org/breeds/profiles/persian-him.html Persians are dumber than a stump, as are Ragdolls. And a PITA to groom. Get yourself a siamese-wannabe at a local shelter - a pointed moggy kitten. It will be curious, inquisitive, probably talkative, and will most likely have blue eyes.
-L.
L Sternn - 30 Aug 2005 09:25 GMT >I live in an apartment and am looking for a cat to keep me company. I'd >like to know which breed is the smartest. I've searched Google to no >avail, though it seems Persians or Abyssinians seem to be the most >intelligent? I've found that border collies are the best cats.
Some people will try to tell you they're actually dogs, but in fact they are canines, which are a form of felines, which is the same thing as a cat.
Moron.
carola - 30 Aug 2005 11:23 GMT : >I live in an apartment and am looking for a cat to keep me company. I'd : >like to know which breed is the smartest. I've searched Google to no [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] : they are canines, which are a form of felines, which is the same thing : as a cat. And how about chasing/herding sheep?
Btw B.Collies are my favourites just after cats and ponies.
carola
Me Myself and I - 30 Aug 2005 14:29 GMT >I live in an apartment and am looking for a cat to keep me company. I'd > like to know which breed is the smartest. I've searched Google to no > avail, though it seems Persians or Abyssinians seem to be the most > intelligent? I find the bengal to be the most intelligent, non stop talking and "chirping", loves the bath and very very affectionate
Me Myself and I - 30 Aug 2005 14:31 GMT http://www.exoticbengals.com/exotic.htm
Me Myself and I - 30 Aug 2005 14:32 GMT " The Bengal cat is a very people oriented cat that has many "dog-like" characteristics (they love to play fetch). Bengals are affectionate, bed hoggers, and very loyal to their people. They are quick to learn and adapt. "
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