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whayface - 25 Aug 2005 14:13 GMT
I see people posting here about what to do if their "my cats eye has a red
growth on the one white side of his eye", or "My cat has trouble going to
bathroom", or "My cat has worms" ETC

What would you do if some of these things were wrong with you or you 2
legged kids ??????  DUH You would probably go to you foctor, RIGHT ?!?!?!?  
Apply the same thinking to you 4 legged babies !!!  What is so hard about
that ?!?!?!?

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? - 25 Aug 2005 16:15 GMT
> I see people posting here about what to do if their "my cats eye has a red
> growth on the one white side of his eye", or "My cat has trouble going to
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> Apply the same thinking to you 4 legged babies !!!  What is so hard about
> that ?!?!?!?

I heartily encourage these folks to do the same with their two legged
children.

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jacquie0 - 25 Aug 2005 17:06 GMT
> I see people posting here about what to do if their "my cats eye has a red
> growth on the one white side of his eye", or "My cat has trouble going to
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>
> http://members.aol.com/larrystark/strays.htm

It's about time that someone finally said it. Thanks. I too don't
understand how people who supposedly love their cats don't take them to
the vet when they think that there is something wrong with them. Are
they too afraid that it will cost them a lot of money? If this is the
case, then you shouldn't have them in the first place. When ever in
doubt about your furbabies health or habits,......TAKE THEM TO THE VET!!!!!
nelly-knowall - 25 Aug 2005 18:07 GMT
Dear "Whey Face"
My kitten is 5 months old.  Due to illness I lost employment two months ago.
If you know of a vet that would give free advice about house training my
kitten at night.  Or should I give it to a cats home.  I am sure either
outcome will stop me asking for advice and annoying people like yourself.
>> I see people posting here about what to do if their "my cats eye has a
>> red growth on the one white side of his eye", or "My cat has trouble
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> then you shouldn't have them in the first place. When ever in doubt about
> your furbabies health or habits,......TAKE THEM TO THE VET!!!!!
MaryL - 26 Aug 2005 03:02 GMT
> Dear "Whey Face"
> My kitten is 5 months old.  Due to illness I lost employment two months
> ago. If you know of a vet that would give free advice about house training
> my kitten at night.  Or should I give it to a cats home.  I am sure either
> outcome will stop me asking for advice and annoying people like yourself.

I see the sarcasm in your message, but far too many of these messages seem
to be from people who just don't use any common sense at all concerning the
need for a vet -- not someone in dire circumstances who is desperate for
advice from the newsgroup.

MaryL
tsr3 - 26 Aug 2005 17:12 GMT
Actually, I suspect many of the postings (my cat can't breathe, what do
I do??) are actually trolls.--becky
rpl - 25 Aug 2005 18:31 GMT
> I see people posting here about what to do if their "my cats eye has a red
> growth on the one white side of his eye", or "My cat has trouble going to
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> Apply the same thinking to you 4 legged babies !!!  What is so hard about
> that ?!?!?!?

and if you brought your kid to the doctor everytime it scraped it's knee
or got a cold you'd be wasting your time.

Some ailments have owner-administered cures.

pat
David G Fisher - 25 Aug 2005 19:50 GMT
Human animals are stupid. Always have been.

Dave

> I see people posting here about what to do if their "my cats eye has a red
> growth on the one white side of his eye", or "My cat has trouble going to
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>
> http://members.aol.com/larrystark/strays.htm
Karin Gillette - 25 Aug 2005 20:06 GMT
Asking for advice about litter boxes is not a vet question it is an
experience question.

Asking about how to keep food away from other animals is not a vet question
either.

Yes, questions about strange growths, blood in stool, not being able to go
to the bathroom is a vet question.

When Neko was going out we treated many of her scratches etc at home, but
when she got bit and it appeared to be more than superficial we took her to
the vet.

> Human animals are stupid. Always have been.
>
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> >
> > http://members.aol.com/larrystark/strays.htm
Ted Davis - 25 Aug 2005 21:46 GMT
>I see people posting here about what to do if their "my cats eye has a red
>growth on the one white side of his eye", or "My cat has trouble going to
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>Apply the same thinking to you 4 legged babies !!!  What is so hard about
>that ?!?!?!?

Cats aren't humans - we grow knowing what is serious for humans and
what is trivial, what can be treated with OTC products, what needs a
visit to the doctor, and what requires a rush trip to the ER; but it
takes a long time and a lot of advice to learn the same things about
cats.  Many people just starting out with cats know that cats are
different from humans but don't know the details.

Thirty years ago, I knew about liver spots on people, but since I had
no newsgroup to ask, I rushed the cat to the vet, only to be told that
the spots on his lips were harmless liver spots.  If there had been
someone to ask, I would likely have been told about liver spots but
also advised that they could be something else and a *non-rush* trip
to the vet would be in order - I would surely have taken him, but not
at the cost of losing half a day of work and a lot of stress.

Another time, about as long ago - may even have been the same cat - I
had to pay someone to come get the cat and take him to the vet on
account of injuries he got to his face while he was with me at work
... out in the country and no legal way to leave until my relief
arrived some hours later.  The injuries were minor and required no
urgent treatment, but I was so unfamiliar with cat injuries that I
couldn't tell.  And there was no newsgroup to ask in.

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(WebElder) - 25 Aug 2005 22:14 GMT
>I see people posting here about what to do if their "my cats eye has a red
>growth on the one white side of his eye", or "My cat has trouble going to
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
>http://members.aol.com/larrystark/strays.htm

The last poster makes good sense. I,for one,cannot afford to pay Vet
bills if they are not necessary. I have 4 Cats and care for about 10
strays. Usually there always seems to be at least one with a
bite,scratch,sore,upset tummy,sprained ankle (do Cats have "ankles"?)
or whatever......

One problem I have noticed...which we need badly...is the lack of Vets
visiting this (and others) Cat group. I don't actually know who of you
are Vets or trained personnel,but I have only seen one with the
caption "Dr" before her name.

I,for one,will try to convince a few Houston Vets with Computers and
Usenet access to try and stop by and answer a few questions from
posters. Perhaps you guys could do the same...I will guess most of you
know at least one Vet in your community? See if they will be willing
to stop by the group....we are talking perhaps 5 minutes a night?

Most Vets I suspect will not attempt to give a diagnosis via
Usenet,but they could seperate the minor from the major problems.

Of course this is not substitute for a face-to-face Vet visit if you
are really concerned about your Pet...but  many minor problems could
be solved via this group and save your money for real emergencies.

Ray
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MaryL - 26 Aug 2005 03:06 GMT
<snip>
> One problem I have noticed...which we need badly...is the lack of Vets
> visiting this (and others) Cat group. I don't actually know who of you
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> Ray
> WebElder

There is a veterinarian newsgroup that might interest you --  
alt.med.veterinary.

MaryL
pepsi@my.home.com - 27 Aug 2005 02:04 GMT
>One problem I have noticed...which we need badly...is the lack of Vets
>visiting this (and others) Cat group. I don't actually know who of you
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>Ray
>WebElder

I just did a search on cat health advice and came up with about 70
sites devoted to what you just described.  From their descriptions,
most of the sites offer a question and answer forum.   I don't really
think a professional needs to bring his work home and frequent a
newsgroup.

www.purina.com
www.justanswer.com
www.petpeoplesplace.com

Just to name a few.

Posts here, for the most part, ask if others have the same experiences
with their cats.  Offhand, I can't recall seeing that many medical
questions, as opposed to what I do see, and that's behavioral
concerns.  Everyone likes to talk about their experiences with their
pets and, although I don't see a problem here, I do think there are
other, maybe even better, sources for medical issues.  

pepsi
(WebElder) - 28 Aug 2005 21:53 GMT
>>One problem I have noticed...which we need badly...is the lack of Vets
>>visiting this (and others) Cat group. I don't actually know who of you
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>
>pepsi

Sorry..I have seen websites that advocate eating Cats and Dogs,so I
don't hold much value in websites that anybody could put up in minutes
and call thenselves whatever "expert" they wish to be.

If the site is well known and reputable,and staffed by Vets or trained
personnel,then yes,they are a good resource and I's glad they exist.

The question and answer forums would be exactly like this group,with
perhaps no professionals answering questions that might involve life
and death issues. such as the person who just posted finding the
abandoned kitten on his car engine...he needs professional advice if
the kitten is to make it through the night. I replied and I pray my
advice is good..but who knows? I would have liked to have seen a Vet
reply to his post with help. Thank God this person cares enogh to try.

I have seen much bad advice given in this group and other
forums,perhaps by well meaning people..but bad nonetheless.

>other, maybe even better, sources for medical issues.  

Exactly,why couldn't this group be that source? This is my thought
that with the professional's dropping by we could get help with both
medical and behavioral problems.This way we would know if a problem is
minor or serious enough for an emergency Vet visit.

I am on a fixed income and cannot afford a Vet for minor problems that
I can care for myself (and have leaned to do so very well over the
years..WITH advice from professionals).

Our SPCA professionals here in Houston take phone calls at all hours
if help is needed...so I doublt 5 minutes on the pc in this group
would concern them...they seem to love their work and helping people.

Ray
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(WebElder) - 28 Aug 2005 21:58 GMT
>>One problem I have noticed...which we need badly...is the lack of Vets
>>visiting this (and others) Cat group. I don't actually know who of you
[quoted text clipped - 37 lines]
>
>pepsi

The "Abandoned Kitten" post I refered to was actually in
Alt.Pets.Cats..not this group.....sorry.

Ray
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MaryL - 26 Aug 2005 02:59 GMT
> I see people posting here about what to do if their "my cats eye has a red
> growth on the one white side of his eye", or "My cat has trouble going to
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> http://members.aol.com/larrystark/strays.htm

Absolutely!  Some of these messages just cry out for "take your cat to a vet
ASAP," and I don't see why a sensible person would even ask.

MaryL

My cats --
Duffy: http://tinyurl.com/cslwf
Holly: http://tinyurl.com/9t68o
Duffy and Holly together: http://tinyurl.com/8b47e
shortfuse - 26 Aug 2005 13:51 GMT
Yes...our cats do have their problems...And we do take them to the vet when
warranted.
We invested too much love, time and money in them to let them get ill.
carola - 26 Aug 2005 19:17 GMT
: Yes...our cats do have their problems...And we do take them to the vet when
: warranted.
: We invested too much love, time and money in them to let them get ill.

The thing is: if humans get ill, then the insurance pays for it, if it's a
pet: no, unless you've got an expensive insurance of course.

When my human babies were sick I had plenty of places to go to to ask. With
pets I don't have that option :-(
(Right, humans are more important than pets, but why not share? PLUS:
sometimes vets don't know much more either.)

carola
lelainoz - 03 Sep 2006 01:40 GMT
I understand the sentiment. I rescued - found outside in my apt. complex
late at night -looking abandoned- a beautifull kitty --looked like 5/6mths-
I got her spayed with a county rebate, but all the shots were too much. Now
about 8 mths. has gone by... I can't afford vet costs.  I had rescued a boy
cat - he would be inside and would bother the kitty. I had him just under 2
mths. They won't stop jumping off balcony -2nd story even. Just found him a
family. He did bother the girl kitty a bit = sniffing and too playful. Now
all of a sudden I see bloody diarrhea from kitty. I am so broke from my own
bills and no vets out here in wonderful So.Cal will help, even $50 is too
much right now and lab tests are going to make visit over $100. I'm hoping it
is IBS -as I read about here--that will fade now that tomcat is gone. I will
try another vet --at least want to get stool sample checked, but they have
asked to see kitty too. I really think testing the sample would be good start,
but WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO DO NOW? GIVE HER TO THE HUMANE SOCIETY.

>I see people posting here about what to do if their "my cats eye has a red
>growth on the one white side of his eye", or "My cat has trouble going to
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
>http://members.aol.com/larrystark/strays.htm
 
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