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KiaSidhe - 03 Feb 2004 16:10 GMT
i have a kitten, probably about 5 or 6 months old (she was a stray, so i'm
not sure of the age exactly).  she's active (uhhh, i mean REALLY active most
of the time).  i haven't taken her to a vet yet because we just scooped her
up under two months ago (and we have no car until a month from now, so,
can't really take a cat on the bus).  however, she's extremely picky with
her eating.  no WAY will she eat dry food.  and with the wet food, it HAS to
be "special kitty" brand.....and has to be the kind in the little pouches.
and even then, it will take her a whole day to eat it.  she only picks.
but she will eat table scraps.  (chicken, fish, beef, pizza, anything...)
i'm just concerned that she doesn't eat much.  does this sound kinda normal?
just like a normal, picky kitten?

---Julia
we also did give her store-bought de-wormer when we got her, just to make
sure.  could that have hurt her tummy?
JM - 03 Feb 2004 16:43 GMT
>can't really take a cat on the bus).  however, she's extremely picky with
>her eating.  no WAY will she eat dry food.  and with the wet food, it HAS to
>be "special kitty" brand.....and has to be the kind in the little pouches.

Good chance that she is just picky. Some cats are.
My advice: DO NOT give her human food. It is not good for her and she
will get used to getting it from you. If you stop giving her scraps
now she might complain for a while but you have to have the discipline
to NOT give her any of your food. She will eventually learn and give
up trying.

>we also did give her store-bought de-wormer when we got her, just to make
>sure.  could that have hurt her tummy?

I doubt that, as she still has an appetite for scraps...
It is possible that she has teeth problems which is why she might
prefer wet food to dry food. You could have a vet look at her teeth
but you can also have a look at her gums yourself, they should not be
red. A bit pinkish maybe but really red means gingvitis, i.e. infected
gums.

My cats will not eat cheap food either but I cannot blame them :-)

You could also try to not give her the wet food, and no scraps, and
see if she starts eating the dry food. If she gets hungry she probably
will.

JM
KiaSidhe - 04 Feb 2004 00:06 GMT
> >can't really take a cat on the bus).  however, she's extremely picky with
> >her eating.  no WAY will she eat dry food.  and with the wet food, it HAS to
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> to NOT give her any of your food. She will eventually learn and give
> up trying.

well, we only ever give her unseasoned things.  cooked chicken, tuna out of
the can, ground beef...
that's still bad for her?

> My cats will not eat cheap food either but I cannot blame them :-)

the last cat we had would only eat the cheapest bottom-of-the-barrell dry
cat food.  would NOT eat treats, wet food...just the cheap store brand
catfood.

> You could also try to not give her the wet food, and no scraps, and
> see if she starts eating the dry food. If she gets hungry she probably
> will.

that's kinda what my mom said. she said "cats aren't stupid.  they'll eat
when they're hungry."  i just worry about her not *liking* it.  i mean,
would YOU really want to sit there with something you hate sitting in front
of you and that's ALL you have?

---julia
JM - 04 Feb 2004 12:38 GMT
>well, we only ever give her unseasoned things.  cooked chicken, tuna out of
>the can, ground beef...
>that's still bad for her?

Unseasoned is of course much better than spicey. Cooked chicken can be
dangerous if it has bones in it. The bones become soft and can choke
the cat or even perforate her intestines. Same goes for cooked fish
with bones in it.

The thing is though, this is a cat and not a human...
You are teaching her unwanted behaviour ;-) Unless you want her to
keep begging for it of course.

>the last cat we had would only eat the cheapest bottom-of-the-barrell dry
>cat food.  would NOT eat treats, wet food...just the cheap store brand
>catfood.

Nice, wish mine were like that :-)

> i just worry about her not *liking* it.  i mean,
>would YOU really want to sit there with something you hate sitting in front
>of you and that's ALL you have?

You could try various brands, you might find some she likes... Dry
food is better for her teeth too, keeps 'em clean. I give mine both,
dry food is always available and I give 'em wet food every other day
or so.

It's like with kids, if it was up to them they would eat nothing but
chocolate and candy... But parents (humans in this case) know better.

Good of you to adopt her BTW :-)

JM
KiaSidhe - 04 Feb 2004 17:42 GMT
<JM> wrote .......

> The thing is though, this is a cat and not a human...
> You are teaching her unwanted behaviour ;-) Unless you want her to
> keep begging for it of course.

well, half the time, she gets at our food if we leave the room for a second.
like last week, i was eating some chinese food, left to go use the bathroom,
and i came back to her eating the *green beans* out of the bowl.  and
earlier, *right* after i posted the last message here, i heard my fiancee
yell "damn cat!"  i asked what was wrong, and he said "she's eating my corn
dog!"

> > i just worry about her not *liking* it.  i mean,
> >would YOU really want to sit there with something you hate sitting in front
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> dry food is always available and I give 'em wet food every other day
> or so.

yeah, but i'm NOT about to buy a new bag of dry food every single day
because she turns her nose up to most of it.  that can get quite expensive.
and not to mention, wasteful.

> It's like with kids, if it was up to them they would eat nothing but
> chocolate and candy... But parents (humans in this case) know better.

true enough.

---julia
M.C. Mullen - 04 Feb 2004 19:41 GMT
| <JM> wrote .......
|
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| yell "damn cat!"  i asked what was wrong, and he said "she's eating my corn
| dog!"

Must say the cat has good taste  :-))
Now, don't forget that the cat was used to getting her food from the carbage
before you got her.
This will be hard to change. Hope you'll find a brand of suitable food for
her - and an occasional treat of human food is OK as long as you don't
overdo it.

| yeah, but i'm NOT about to buy a new bag of dry food every single day
| because she turns her nose up to most of it.  that can get quite expensive.
| and not to mention, wasteful.

Yes, of course. I write to companies for samples or phone or use the net.
And some companies offer that you can return the food if the pet does not
like it. Just buy small bags at the beginning, and mix the 'waste' in with
other food until it's used up. Well, that's what I do.
When we got our dog I went to a good pet shop and asked for samples. I got
so many that I could feed the dog for a month, but I also found the product
that was fine for me and the dog.

Good luck

Carola
SeaWolf - 04 Feb 2004 21:57 GMT
I've often wondered why a cat can be so picky about what it eats. I have a
theory about it. As you maybe aware a cats digestive system isn't all that
efficient as compared to allot of critters. Cats more then most critter seem
to really need allot of protean in their food. You may have noticed that you
can not feed a cat dog food! The reason is that cats need a diet with allot
more protean. One interesting thing that proves my point is that dogs will
often eat cat fecal material.

Now this may seem gross at first but you have to understand that dogs have
all their brains in their nose! We like to call dogs NoseBrains. Dogs really
don't taste much but their nose picks up the fact that cats fecal material
is just loaded with protean and other undigested stuff. To a dog cats poo is
food!

What is probably happening is that your cat is looking for something
specific in its food. Your cat may have difficulty digesting something in
the food it needs. The result is that the cat is looking for more of that
material in its food. My cat will only eat certain types of food! There have
been times when my cat will eat a type and brand of food for years then
suddenly he will not eat it any more. Interestingly enough he will not eat
chicken or fish or anything else I may be eating. He always wants to taste
but in the end my cat attempts to burry what ever it was I gave it.

I know that when my cat decides that he's not going to eat something he will
not under any circumstances eat it. The cat will go to the point where it
will starve to death. I usually have to try a number of different brands of
food before I find on he will eat. Once I locate the proper food he will eat
the same food for years. If I switch the food back again he will not eat it.

I've been told that Tuna fish is a really bad idea. The taste and smell of
it seems to have a tendency to overwhelm the cats sensory system. They kind
of get hooked on tuna while at the same time not getting what they need
nutritionally. This is what my vet told me one time.

Just thought you might find this interesting!

> > >can't really take a cat on the bus).  however, she's extremely picky with
> > >her eating.  no WAY will she eat dry food.  and with the wet food, it HAS
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>
> ---julia
NickKnight - 05 Feb 2004 14:58 GMT
>I've often wondered why a cat can be so picky about what it eats.
I've found alot of it is smell.  If a cat can't smell it or doesn't
get the full smell it won't eat it.  

I've noticed that cat needs to smell the food to get it's attention.

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SeaWolf - 06 Feb 2004 06:01 GMT
Oh yes, I know what you mean. My cat will smell comthing to death it seems.
I've dangled some food infront of that guy and he will smell it for minutes
on end. Its like he's looking for something in the food.

> >I've often wondered why a cat can be so picky about what it eats.
> I've found alot of it is smell.  If a cat can't smell it or doesn't
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Luvskats00 - 03 Feb 2004 17:12 GMT
kia8008@hotmail.com
writes

>i have a kitten, probably about 5 or 6 months old (she was a stray, so i'm
>not sure of the age exactly).  she's active (uhhh, i mean REALLY active most
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>i'm just concerned that she doesn't eat much.  does this sound kinda normal?
>just like a normal, picky kitten?

1.  It's great that you adopted the kitty, however, you should use your
computer and do a google search on cat basics: health behavior & the like.
2.  You can do what I do - I have no car - I take a cab, if necessary.  You
should make sure the cat is checked out and FIV free.  
3. Make your cat an indoor only cat. It's safer.
NickKnight - 03 Feb 2004 21:52 GMT
>2.  You can do what I do - I have no car - I take a cab, if necessary.  You
>should make sure the cat is checked out and FIV free.  
And around here cab drivers have been known to decline taking pets.
I found that out the hard way when my alternator died.  

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Charles Minus - 05 Feb 2004 05:01 GMT
Jeez, I'm sorry to hear about your alernator.  Did it suffer long?  What
kind of vet did you take it to?

[Sorry, I just couldn't resist]

Minus

>>2.  You can do what I do - I have no car - I take a cab, if necessary.
>> You should make sure the cat is checked out and FIV free.  
> And around here cab drivers have been known to decline taking pets.
> I found that out the hard way when my alternator died.
KiaSidhe - 03 Feb 2004 23:54 GMT
"Luvskats00"  wrote ....

> kia8008@hotmail.com
> writes
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> 1.  It's great that you adopted the kitty, however, you should use your
> computer and do a google search on cat basics: health behavior & the like.

good idea.  hell, i'm on this computer enough.  ;)

> 2.  You can do what I do - I have no car - I take a cab, if necessary.  You
> should make sure the cat is checked out and FIV free.

well, we know that we have to take her to a vet.  we have no idea how long
she was living outside or anything.  this will happen within the month.

> 3. Make your cat an indoor only cat. It's safer.

oh, she is.  last cat we had ended up getting fleas REALLY bad (like,
nothing would kill them) cause he was indoor/outdoor.  he ran away though.
:(  we gave him to a friend to cat-sit while we moved, and he jumped out her
window (probably trying to get back to us).
but this kitty is indoor, for many reasons.  first, cause we'd get in
trouble with the apartment office if we let her out.  second, we live right
next to a very busy major road.  third, she's scared to be out (because she
was thrown out by her last owners, i guess).
we do let her out occasionally when we're sitting outside.  she stays on the
porch and just sniffs around.

---julia
M.C. Mullen - 03 Feb 2004 17:37 GMT
| ---Julia
| we also did give her store-bought de-wormer when we got her, just to make
| sure.  could that have hurt her tummy?

No, as long as you got the dosage right.
I would not leave the cat food out all day. Better feed her twice a day.
Then the stuff is fresh, and she'll like it more.

Thanks for taking this cat home.

Carola
XMar - 03 Feb 2004 19:52 GMT
Definately stop with the human food.
My cats would definately eat human food if I allowed it, but I dont.

one thing you can do is is mix some canned food with the dry food

I would definately take her to the vet as soon as you can to make sure
there is no other problems

My cats "graze" too...they just have a mouthful or two and walk away..

AFA as the active..OH YEA..I have a 6 month old....its like wild kitten
energy just builds up and POOOOOOOOOOOFFFFFFFFFFFFFFf she's off and
getting into trouble... :-D

Talk to a vet about your concerns and like someone else suggested. Do a
google search and learn about kitten/cat behaviors

> i have a kitten, probably about 5 or 6 months old (she was a stray, so i'm
> not sure of the age exactly).  she's active (uhhh, i mean REALLY active most
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> we also did give her store-bought de-wormer when we got her, just to make
> sure.  could that have hurt her tummy?
NickKnight - 03 Feb 2004 21:49 GMT
>but she will eat table scraps.  (chicken, fish, beef, pizza, anything...)
Bingo.  That is why the cat is such a picky eater.

I give my no table scraps, that is why we have the cat food.

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