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Christie W - 03 Aug 2005 00:54 GMT
Anybody ever heard of a tongueless kitty? In 1998 I found Katie at Myrtle
Beach, SC. She was filthy and seemed to be starving so I bought her some food
which she acted like she wanted so bad but wouldn't eat it. My next thought
was she had a tooth problem so I looked in her mouth and guess what I found?
No tongue. Not even a root for one. I felt so sorry for her that at the end
of our weekend I packed her up in the car and brought her home with us.
Straight to the vet she went which needless to say surprised them! They
guessed she was about 6 months old at the time and had been born that way.
They did a little exploratory surgery on her mouth and discovered that it had
simply never formed. She was very small for her age and heaven only knows how
she survived kittenhood and nursing! How could she have possibly suckled on
her momma? Anyway after much trial and error I finally found she was able to
eat shredded cat food only. She hates 9-lives so God help me if Friskies ever
quits making their 2 flavors of shredded food. Anyway, 7 years later she's up
to 5 1/2 pounds, which the vet can't believe, and is the love of my life! My
biggest problem is her constant "washing". At least that's what she thinks
she's doing. But the more she tries, the dirtier she gets. I think that's why
she washes herself constantly. She can't understand why she doesn't get
cleaner, only more filthy. I have to bathe her which she hates, and would
really appreciate any ideas on making that task easier. She tries to bite and
scratch even after all these years of them, but I can't afford to have her
groomed; most places want $30 just to wash her and it needs to be done every
few days. Also, any ideas on how to make homemade food for her? She eats 6-8
cans a day (since she can't eat it all and most of what she gets is the juice)
and at 39 cents a can it's awfully expensive. Just wanted to share my special
kitty with you guys and hope for some creative ideas on helping her stay
clean and neat.
tsr3 - 03 Aug 2005 02:50 GMT
I'm not sure how you are washing your cat, but maybe if you use a damp
washcloth to give her a bath, instead of dunking her in water.  Gently
stroke her with the damp cloth--it may remind her of her mom......

How does she drink water without a tongue?
Barrnabas Collins - 03 Aug 2005 19:11 GMT
>How does she drink water without a tongue?
Probably by using it's lungs to "suck" the water in.

Catss are adaptable.   They will do what is
necessary to survive.

A number of years ago I had a cat with three
legs.  (One fell off at birth, the cat adapted fine
and got around fine.)

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Christie W - 03 Aug 2005 21:19 GMT
>I'm not sure how you are washing your cat, but maybe if you use a damp
>washcloth to give her a bath, instead of dunking her in water.  Gently
>stroke her with the damp cloth--it may remind her of her mom......
>
>How does she drink water without a tongue?

I've had her for 7 years and trust me, I originally tried the damp washcloth
method. Problem is, she's so filthy all the time that it just doesn't get the
goo off. She truly washes constantly! I mean, if she's not asleep, she is
trying to groom. Of course the more she tries, the worse she gets, so the
more she tries. It's a never ending cycle.

As for drinking water, I've only once or twice seen her try, but she mainly
bites at it like she does her food. She does love evaporated milk though. I'm
not sure how much she actually gets down, because most of it seems to end up
on the wall, the floor and her head!
Wayne Boatwright - 03 Aug 2005 07:04 GMT
> Anybody ever heard of a tongueless kitty? In 1998 I found Katie at
> Myrtle Beach, SC. She was filthy and seemed to be starving so I bought
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> sorry for her that at the end of our weekend I packed her up in the car
> and brought her home with us.

Poor, sweet, little baby.  She was so lucky to have you find her and take
care of her.  She has made a valiant effort to survive, and you've made it
possible for her to do so.

As far as bathing her, since her coat needs frequent/constant attention, I
would suggest using a wet and wrung out washcloth, or better yet, there are
disposable wipes available at places like PetSmart for cleaning their
coats.  Perhaps a periodic bathing would be good, but for routine cleaning
one of these options is probably better.

As far as food goes, I once had a kitten with a serious digestive problem
for whom I had to cook.  The major issue here is getting the proper
nutrition, since commercial cat foods are specifically balanced with the
nutrients a cat needs.  I was able to get a special supplement powder from
my vet that I mixed with the food I cooked.

Of course, you know the texture of the food best that Katie is able to eat
on her own.  I would suggest cooking chicken and beef until very tender,
then shredding to the right consistency with two forks.

HTH, and best of luck and love to Katie!  She sounds like a very special
little furbaby, indeed!

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Sneekers - 03 Aug 2005 12:39 GMT
> Anybody ever heard of a tongueless kitty? In 1998 I found Katie at Myrtle
> Beach, SC. She was filthy and seemed to be starving so I bought her some food
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> kitty with you guys and hope for some creative ideas on helping her stay
> clean and neat.

What an amazing survivor you have there!

Here are some ideas which you might find helpful:

Slightly dampen a cloth in some warm water and use short and gentle
strokes to bathe Katie so she doesn't become startled or resistant (she
must be cleaned). You may be able to coax her in a tub, later on--but
Katie can use all of the gentleness and careful care, given her
difficult start in this world!

As far as her food is concerned (and I think another poster might have
generously mentioned this already) is boil some chicken or beef and
shred it well and serve. There are numerous sites with recipes for your
cat--just add the  shredded meat and you're good to go.

(http://cats.about.com/cs/catfood/a/home_cooked.htm)
Sneekers - 03 Aug 2005 12:42 GMT
One question: How does Katie comsume water (and how did she survive
doing so in the past, any ideas?)...? Have you observed her consuming
water or do you have have to administer it, somehow? (I have not been
able to find any information, so far, about Katie's unique situation.)

I hope you find home-made cat food recipes that are nutritous. :-)
Barrnabas Collins - 03 Aug 2005 19:07 GMT
>How could she have possibly suckled on
>her momma?
Probably through the employmnent of gravity as well as sucking with
her mouth.   It's entirely possible, just no easy.  Remeber when you
suck you are using your lungs to draw air into the mouth, the tongue
itlsef only provides 1.  taste buds  2.   guidance to guide the chewed
food down to the throat.  

I would also add cats do an amazing job of adapting to what they
need to do to survive.  

> Anyway after much trial and error I finally found she was able to
>eat shredded cat food only. She hates 9-lives so God help me if Friskies ever
>quits making their 2 flavors of shredded food.
I would think your best bet is talk to your vet.  I would think the
cat should be able to eat, although you may need to keep the
quantities small.

>Anyway, 7 years later she's up
>to 5 1/2 pounds, which the vet can't believe, and is the love of my life! My
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>cleaner, only more filthy. I have to bathe her which she hates, and would
>really appreciate any ideas on making that task easier.
The problem is cats use their tongue to groom themselves.

>She tries to bite and
>scratch even after all these years of them, but I can't afford to have her
>groomed; most places want $30 just to wash her and it needs to be done every
>few days.
Maybe get some books on cat grooming and/or take grooming classss?

> Also, any ideas on how to make homemade food for her? She eats 6-8
>cans a day (since she can't eat it all and most of what she gets is the juice)
>and at 39 cents a can it's awfully expensive. Just wanted to share my special
>kitty with you guys and hope for some creative ideas on helping her stay
>clean and neat.
I would talk to your vet.    My first concern would be can your cat
get all the nutrients it needs from the gravy?  I have no idea about
that, I'd suggest consulting your vet.

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Christie W - 03 Aug 2005 21:20 GMT
I've had her for 7 years and trust me, I originally tried the damp washcloth
method. Problem is, she's so filthy all the time that it just doesn't get the
goo off. She truly washes constantly! I mean, if she's not asleep, she is
trying to groom. Of course the more she tries, the worse she gets, so the
more she tries. It's a never ending cycle.

As for drinking water, I've only once or twice seen her try, but she mainly
bites at it like she does her food. She does love evaporated milk though. I'm
not sure how much she actually gets down, because most of it seems to end up
on the wall, the floor and her head!
Christie W - 03 Aug 2005 21:23 GMT
The vet I go to has been very suprised and happy with her good health and
says that the Friskies shredded cat food I feed her supplies her with enough
nutrients and moisture since I feed her so many cans. Honestly, I've never
asked them about other food options. I have thought about it more lately and
think that using a food processer with meats would be a good idea but I was
not sure about the amount or types of liquid I should use. Thanks, for the
ideas about chicken and beef.

I also have searched the web high and low, even sites that are all about cats
with "weird" issues, but I've never found anything at all about a cat born
without a tongue. I have tried probably every item ever sold in a pet store
for grooming on her but nothing really helps that much. The main problem is
the food she eats is so gooey that she starts grooming as soon as she eats
and gets it all in her fur. I tell people she uses her hair for dental floss.
I do use a fine toothed rake to brush her but that doesn't really get the goo
part of the food off of her. I also use those tooth wipes to clean out her
mouth (which she hates) but it still seems to not help very much. I mainly
need to know any easy way to bathe her without keeping my arms totally
scratched up!
PipeDown - 04 Aug 2005 21:09 GMT
> The vet I go to has been very suprised and happy with her good health and
> says that the Friskies shredded cat food I feed her supplies her with
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
> need to know any easy way to bathe her without keeping my arms totally
> scratched up!

" also have searched the web high and low, even sites that are all about
cats
with "weird" issues, but I've never found anything at all about a cat born
without a tongue."

Probably because most of those poor kittens do not survive more than a few
days.  Your cat is truly remarkable.  (call Riply's believe it or not, they
might pay you to include your cat on their show)

The damp washcloth is really your only option besides complete bathing.  You
may have to wipe her 4-6 times a day to keep up else, kitty can learn to
enjoy baths.  A very dilute amount of soap followed by clean water will help
get through the oils.  Once the cat is thoroughly clean, it should be easier
(but not easy) to keep her clean.  Brushing with a wet brush may also work.
Maybe not a full on hair brush but maybe something like a felt lint brush.
There are also leave in soaps and shampoos (sold to humans on camping trips
for example) you can use.  No risk kitty will lick it off and get sick.

As for the constant licking, it may be a nervous habit that could be
controlled with antidepressants.  Not a preferred solution but a realistic
option (kitty prozac).

Your cat is 7 years old, no doubt he has adapted to his condition.  You may
just have to accept things the way they have been.
Christie W - 05 Aug 2005 03:01 GMT
>As for the constant licking,

Is that a "play" on words? I found that remark quite cute! Thanks!
RichC - 03 Aug 2005 23:47 GMT
Does she make any sounds without a tongue?  Have you tried to give her milk
using an eyedropper?

> Anybody ever heard of a tongueless kitty? In 1998 I found Katie at Myrtle
> Beach, SC. She was filthy and seemed to be starving so I bought her some food
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
> kitty with you guys and hope for some creative ideas on helping her stay
> clean and neat.
Christie W - 04 Aug 2005 05:06 GMT
>Does she make any sounds without a tongue?

She meows like any other cat. I guess her voicebox is all she needs for that.
I'm constantly having to clean hair out of her mouth though, since she
constantly grooms and all the hair she pulls out ends up in her mouth. I've
tried desperately to find something on the internet re: any other cats like
her but can't seem to find anything. No one seems to have ever heard of a cat
without a tongue! My baby sure is special.
Wayne Boatwright - 04 Aug 2005 06:16 GMT
>>Does she make any sounds without a tongue?
>
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> other cats like her but can't seem to find anything. No one seems to
> have ever heard of a cat without a tongue! My baby sure is special.

Like I said earlier, what a sweet baby!  She deserves all the love and care
she can get.  She is lucky to have you.

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Jen M. - 04 Aug 2005 17:05 GMT
A suggestion for water--you know those that they use for hampsters and such--
where the bottle is upside down and only releases water when messed with?
Maybe up at a higher level it would go into her mouth easier?  Sorry, I can't
think of a better way to describe it.

When I was at the vet I saw a spray that you spray on and wipe off--maybe
something like that?

Much love to you and your precious one!

Sincerely,
Jen

>>>Does she make any sounds without a tongue?
>>
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>Like I said earlier, what a sweet baby!  She deserves all the love and care
>she can get.  She is lucky to have you.
Christie W - 05 Aug 2005 02:59 GMT
"As for the constant licking,"

Is that a play on words?! Sorry, but I found that rather humorous.
 
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