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XMar - 26 Jan 2004 00:41 GMT In this day and age of scams anyone hear know of any reputable animal rescue and welfare charities.
I like to donate to charities but I also like to know that the most is going to be made of my dollars for the charity in question and not just to line someone's pocket...
Orchid - 26 Jan 2004 04:35 GMT >In this day and age of scams anyone hear know of any reputable animal >rescue and welfare charities. > >I like to donate to charities but I also like to know that the most is >going to be made of my dollars for the charity in question and not just >to line someone's pocket... ` Best Friends. It's a sanctuary, and probably the best in the country. www.bestfriends.org
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Judy F - 26 Jan 2004 21:18 GMT I was just going to say www.bestfriends.org too! Wonderful organization. JudyF
> >In this day and age of scams anyone hear know of any reputable animal > >rescue and welfare charities. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > See Orchid's Kitties! -- http://nik.ascendancy.net/bengalpage > Want a Purebred Cat? Read This! -- http://nik.ascendancy.net/orchid Morticia - 26 Jan 2004 05:00 GMT I would consider finding a local shelter run by volunteers. My cats vet have 2 cat shelters that they deal with and some vets provide some free care to these places. I would call around - most of the time they do not want cash: they need food, bedding and time spent with the pets or outside supervision.
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> In this day and age of scams anyone hear know of any reputable animal > rescue and welfare charities. > > I like to donate to charities but I also like to know that the most is > going to be made of my dollars for the charity in question and not just > to line someone's pocket... Patrick - 26 Jan 2004 09:08 GMT > In this day and age of scams anyone hear know of any reputable animal > rescue and welfare charities. > > I like to donate to charities but I also like to know that the most is > going to be made of my dollars for the charity in question and not just > to line someone's pocket... I'm sure you're going to get several references to reputable charities etc as per your request, especially since there are tons of legitimate no-kill shelters scattered across the country in dire need of funds etc. In your search if you find one that helps people that are in similar situations as mine, please, by all means, please keep me advised. Although this sparks a dim memory of sitting in my apartment so long ago in Manhattan watching our mayor on TV step over a homeless person and state "Don't give those bums any money, give to the charities that take care of them instead", I'm sure that many, at least some, "animal charities" are not as ruthless ripoffs as a lot of the "human charities" are, which, I believe the current Statistics for several =major= American "human charities" continue to remain getting only about a lowly 15 percent of all money collected to those who actually need it, for whom it was actually collected. The other 85 percent (American news media reported) go for such things as pencils, dinners, car rentals, desks, paper clips, flower arrangements, chairs, air transportation, brunch, haircuts, dry cleaning, etc. These charities still brazenly dare to call it "Overhead" in America. We at "the bottom" still deem to term it otherwise, lol. Well, yes, again, if anyone finds an actual bonafide reputable charity to help people like me or in similar situations to be able to avoid having to completely fold our tents up or insipidly reluctantly adopting everyone out that has been A Family for forever, yes, please keep us in mind, there are probably millions of us, and so far I can't find a "Bonafide Charity" who has the inkling, or mandate, to open their hearts, or pocketbooks, for us written into their charter, and so far they still won't let me buy cat food with food stamps.
My current =individual= "story", of which I am quite sure there are many more quite more desperate, still remains at:
http://groups.google.com/groups?dq=&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&th=66d7ed389115e862
Good luck looking, I'm sure you'll find one, if not several, as, again, besides just specifically Charities there continue to remain tons of *bonafide* no-kill shelters and compounds scattered across America in dire need of funds and etc. By all means, donate all you are able to, God bless you for doing it, animals are so very well worth it, if not to the many unenlightened who still worship such things as Digital Watches instead of Life itself.
Regards,
Patrick
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NickKnight - 26 Jan 2004 17:04 GMT >I'm sure you're going to get several references to reputable charities etc >as per your request, especially since there are tons of legitimate no-kill >shelters scattered across the country in dire need of funds etc. Around here the state has reports on charities and how much of the funds raised actually go to the cause. Do some research, there are many cons posing as charities. There are some very good charities out there, there are many frauds out there too.
Check you local Attorney Generals office, check with the BBB.
There are good charities, there are also scumbags posing as charities.
>mayor on TV step over a homeless person and state "Don't give those bums any >money, give to the charities that take care of them instead", There is good reason for this. Give money directly to the homeless person and I guarantee it will be spent on booze. Give it to one of the homeless shelters instead. The people who run the shelters are the first ones to tell you that.
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Patrick - 26 Jan 2004 20:34 GMT > >I'm sure you're going to get several references to reputable charities etc > >as per your request, especially since there are tons of legitimate no-kill > >shelters scattered across the country in dire need of funds etc.
> Around here the state has reports on charities and how much of the > funds raised actually go to the cause. Well, I don't really know which State you are in, but the Statistics I quoted were from a report from "CBS 60 Minutes", if my memory serves me excellently, and addressed several Nationwide-Worldwide (human) charities, major ones, and specifically how after "overhead" about only 15 percent, or less, wound up to those in need, after "overhead", pencils, brunch, comfy desk chairs, etc, oh yes, and giant salaries.
> Do some research, there > are many cons posing as charities. There are some very good charities > out there, there are many frauds out there too. > Check you local Attorney Generals office, check with the BBB. > There are good charities, there are also scumbags posing as > charities. Yes, there are some very good (human) Charities around. A small problem *remains*, however, that most people contributing to them have no idea what percentage goes to those for whom the funds are collected, nor are they inclined to take the time to look into their financial breakdown, nor have they viewed that special report on "60 Minutes", or if they did they already forgot it. (Statistics, lol, I love Statistics, have indicated that many Americans tend to have about a 2 week short term memory span when it comes to "News Reports", but for some reason never forget the name "WalMart", lol). And, yes, very true, there are some people so low in America even still (gee, what a surprise that there are still some Bad People in America, lol) that they took advantage of the 911 tragedy, posed as A Charity, and bilked millions out of the unsuspecting.
> >mayor on TV step over a homeless person and state "Don't give those bums any > >money, give to the charities that take care of them instead",
> There is good reason for this. Give money directly to the homeless > person and I guarantee it will be spent on booze. Give it to one > of the homeless shelters instead. The people who run the shelters > are the first ones to tell you that. No offense, but you've obviously never been in a homeless shelter in NYC, unless I'm mistaken. I have. I've seen several of them. I even interviewed people who stayed there over a period of months. Some of the shelters are insanely despicable, you sleep with your wallet next to your stomach inside your pants and hope you are alive in the morning and that someone has not removed your shoes, and are riddled with drug dealers, junkies, sexual deviants, and other "criminal elements" (not counting The Homeless themselves). The whole idea that the NYC mayor had at the time was to get rid of all the homeless in NYC, just completely eliminate them, and ship them out of the state on trains and busses "so the tourists would never again be so unfortunate as to see any shadows in our wonderful spotless Oz". They didn't even want them even in the State anymore. If my memory serves me correctly, I believe they tried to ship them to New Jersey or somewhere and New Jersey just laughed at them. At that time, the "people at the top" had no plans whatsoever to "help the homeless", they just wanted to get rid of them, any way possible.
Of course, it's been a while since I've lived in Manhattan. Perhaps things have changed for the better as far as the quality of homeless shelters there goes.
Regards,
Patrick
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XMar - 26 Jan 2004 18:14 GMT I dont know your story I admit,
But a computer and and ISP???
>>In this day and age of scams anyone hear know of any reputable animal >>rescue and welfare charities. [quoted text clipped - 47 lines] > > . Patrick - 26 Jan 2004 21:49 GMT > I dont know your story I admit, It is still at:
http://groups.google.com/groups?dq=&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&th=66d7ed389115e862
if you ever decide you actually wish to review it, which it's rather overobvious at this late date that you haven't.
> But a computer and and ISP??? Three question marks....? Lol.... 2 would have been sufficient, but I'll go for the gusto, my beloved parents raised me that way.
The "evil computer":
I built this computer myself many many, many, years ago. Waaay back when, when I actually had green american cash, long before mother and father got sick and died, and long before many had even heard of "the internet", much less even owned a "personal computer", or even remotely knew how to operate one.
As far as the "isp", I am now several months behind on paying them, they know my story though, and know that when I get $ I will pay them, I've known them for years and years now and remain a "reliable customer".
If it's really a Necessity that The Poor destroy their computers so they can no longer have *any* communication *whatsoever* with The Outside World, then I will immediately comply.
I'm not sure what destroying any potentially constructive items The Poor have left that they might be able to even minisculely find a small productive use for will do, but if it will make people happy, I'll get to work on it muy pronto.
However, I am in a small quagmire as to the process. Should I just take a hammer to it, or should I put it out in the middle of the street so cars can run over it for a more dedicated and splashy cleansing of nasty earthly possessions.....?
I also, god help me, still have "an Ebay account", with about 4 dollars in it, lol. I'll go to work on eliminating that as well. That should really assist me to bow before the passing masses and take my deserving place as one of the "Humbled Thoroughly Researched Truly Poor and Desperately Needy".
But, seriously, I suggest you take your donations and give them to Legitimate no-kill shelters, tons of them are scattered around America and *are* in dire need of funds and other things, instead of giving $ to people like me in similar situations who couldn't get money from A Charity if our butts were on fire.
And we'll just continue to go down with the ship singing about the land of The Free........
After all, that's all we really deserve, isn't it.......?
The *above* reply, children, comes from reading all the results after daring to go onto The Internet when you direly need funds to keep your family of cats alive, healthy and together, but are just an "individual" and not "a charity", looking for help, and then you find that instead of actual help that many people literally have the cahungas to chide you for being "Not Poor Enough" or wish to take butt-prints and run them through a federal butt-print database to ensure you deserve their "charity". No thanks, I seem to have had enough now of people who insist on popping their rubber gloves on and telling you to turn your head and cough just to see if you are deserving enough of their compassion. I think I'll just strangle the cats tonight to do them a favor of not having to be relocated to any of those people's homes.
Don't try this at home, kids, leave it to The Expert Poor.
I've been to several =Cat Forums= on The Internet now, pleading our case.
Here are =The Results=, just for The Curious (not for The Poor, for as we all know The Poor should not be on The Internet to begin with, write your Congressman now, people!!):
1. There are some people who cannot help us with $, but offer information, kind words, and are even in similar situations. I thank those people. God bless you.
2. There are some who seem to be focused only on "Spay and Neuter all your animals NOW!!", and seem to have not noticed that we are in need of $ to just stay together as A Family.
3. There are some who are only focused on "You DO NOT need to be a Family, nor deserve to be one, WE know what's best for you AND for your cats, Adopt out all your animals NOW!!".
4. There are some, a scant few, who have actually sent us $. God bless them. God bless you.
5. There are some who have sat around and crowed such things as:
"Whatever you do, don't give any $ to those people, they are =probably= scam artists (they've done about ZERO research to come to that conclusion, which winds up being devastating to people in similar situations), give to Charities instead"
knowing full well ahead of time that "charities" (animal ones) are not in the habit of contributing to Individuals, which leaves Individuals in my position, or in worse positions, out in the cold, or at the mercy of the "Adopt them all out now, do what's best for the animals, not what's best for you, we're smarter and more experienced than you, you should NOT remain A Family!!!!" people.
Jesus Christ Almighty.
LOL......
Ya know, I figured the **one** group of people that I could appeal to in my current situation would be ====THE CAT PEOPLE====, and then I find, mixed inbetween all the *Truly* Kind and Compassionate people, a beauracracy that emulates my worst nightmares about "government", and now learn that one of the most logical steps I *should* have taken long ago was to burn my computer immediately.
No thanks again.
At this point *anything* seems much more pleasant than begging from people who apparently haven't given any $ to "An Individual" in a long long long, long, time, for various founded and unfounded reasons, and forgot long ago why it is necessary to do so from time to time.
But then again, I must reprimand myself, for I have forgotten where I am, America, where The Individual will apparently remain completely expendable in the face of the needs of the masses, just as it has always been, for there will always be various people more experienced and smarter than lowly Individuals who have stupidly wandered into The Poor's booth at the opera
I dunno.... They taught me different than that in school when I was growing up.
I guess things have changed since way back then.
Go figure.
Again, yes, disavowing eternally any real assistance to undeserving =Individuals= with animals who couldn't get financial assistance from an animal charity even if all our cats were butt-printed and put in a federal database, I suggest you give your $ to a reputable animal charity or to the *many* no-kill shelters/compounds, as there are *many* knowledgeable people who help Animals who subscribe to them, know them, and can point you in their direction.
They're scattered all across America.
Just like the rest of us.
Regards,
Patrick
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M.C. Mullen - 27 Jan 2004 09:09 GMT | I dont know your story I admit, | | But a computer and and ISP??? I know a number of poor people who use a computer (that was either given to them or purchased in more prosperous times). It's often their only creative occupation and past time, and the cheapest one too. Subscribing to a newspaper is more expensive, phoning is, using public transport is - and don't forget - a lot of these people have very little social contact, because who on earth wants to socialise with the poor? So the computer is a way to keep people from complete loneliness. Or do you think it's more appropriate to spend the time going round searching for food in garbage bins or to sing at the corner? We don't have to help everybody, we just simply can't. But I think it's not fair to put the low down even more. I'm writing this in a friendly way, but concerned because it happens all the time, in politics, everywhere.
But honestly: Is there no organisation that would be prepared to help neuter all the many cats Patrick has? If not for his sake then for the cat's sake?
Carola
David Stevenson - 26 Jan 2004 12:23 GMT >In this day and age of scams anyone hear know of any reputable animal >rescue and welfare charities. > >I like to donate to charities but I also like to know that the most is >going to be made of my dollars for the charity in question and not just >to line someone's pocket... It probably helps to say where you are, unless you are willing to give to charities in countries far away.
In England, for example, there is no doubt that the RSPCA does excellent work amongst animals, helping in many ways. Also the PDSA which provides vet care for the indigent.
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Luvskats00 - 29 Jan 2004 11:02 GMT XMar xxxx@xxx.com asks
>..anyone hear know of any reputable animal >rescue and welfare charities. >I like to donate to charities but I also like to know that the most is >going to be made of my dollars for the charity in question.... The Better Business Bureau lists animal charities and rates them...I used it as a guide when donating for the holidays...whether you want to help stop animal testing...rescue strays..defend the wildlife,etc..
bbb.com (click on charities on the left side)
Joe Pitt - 29 Jan 2004 13:08 GMT I belong to a rescue group (see link below) that is a 501C(3). No one is paid. We adopt out of a local Petsmart store and keep the animals in our homes. This is common of small rescue groups. Check out the groups working out of the Petsmart and Petco stores in your area for the groups working them.
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> XMar xxxx@xxx.com > asks [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > bbb.com (click on charities on the left side) Jenny S - 11 Sep 2005 04:31 GMT HI All, in regards to where to find info on charity bottom lines BBB is a good source but I didn't find a real break done on it for the Best Friends charity I've seen mentioned here so I set my browser to Google and found another site that breaks it down nicely... charitynavigator.org
Just thought that I'd pass my info on. Jen
>XMar xxxx@xxx.com >asks [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > >bbb.com (click on charities on the left side)
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