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Cat Forum / General Topics / August 20053 cats & a new parrot...
Hello, I have three cats, two of them 3 yrs old, and the other just under 1 yr. The cats are 90% house cats, they have access to the back garden supervised a few times per day. Now...I really want to buy an African Grey Parrot, a young one too - maybe a bird aged 2 - 4 months. Can anyone give me success stories and / or horror stories with regards to the risk to the bird? I am well aware that cats are predators, but I am wondering if by having the bird in the house, will they treat it with more respect over time? The last thing I want is for the cat to take a swipe at the poor thing and kill it, or for the three of them to sit and taunt it all day causing the bird to stress out - parrots can go crazy with stress I heard. What I might do, is buy a budgie or cockatiel which cost next to nothing, and see how they react. If they welcome the wee thing with open arms, I will buy it a much more expensive friend to sit and talk with :) Any tips? PS - Its Tigger, Tootsie and Tango - www.cutecats.co.uk - they look harmless :). > Path: newssvr33.news.prodigy.com!newsdbm06.news.prodigy.com!newsdst02.news.prodigy.com!newsmst01b.news.prodigy.com!prodigy.com!newscon02.news.prodigy.com!prodigy.net!newsfeed.cwix.com!newsfeed.gamma.ru!Gamma.RU!easynet-monga!easynet.net!xara.net!gxn.net!194.159.246.34.MISMATCH!peer-uk.news.demon.net!kibo.news.demon.net!news.demon.co.uk!demon!not-for-mail > From: "Jim" <jimjam2020online gmail.com> [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > PS - Its Tigger, Tootsie and Tango - www.cutecats.co.uk - they look harmless >:). Er what? >> Path: newssvr33.news.prodigy.com!newsdbm06.news.prodigy.com!newsdst02.news.prodigy.com!newsmst01b.news.prodigy.com!prodigy.com!newscon02.news.prodigy.com!prodigy.net!newsfeed.cwix.com!newsfeed.gamma.ru!Gamma.RU!easynet-monga!easynet.net!xara.net!gxn.net!194.159.246.34.MISMATCH!peer-uk.news.demon.net!kibo.news.demon.net!news.demon.co.uk!demon!not-for-mail >> From: "Jim" <jimjam2020online gmail.com> [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] >> PS - Its Tigger, Tootsie and Tango - www.cutecats.co.uk - they look harmless >> :).  Signaturehttp://www.petersparrots.com http://www.insanevideoclips.com http://www.petersphotos.com Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana. > Er what? typical response from a dickhead. > > Er what? > > > typical response from a dickhead. Oh, damn, Peter, I though he was talking to me. Seems you have a fanboi. :) >> > Er what? >> > >> typical response from a dickhead. > > Oh, damn, Peter, I though he was talking to me. > Seems you have a fanboi. :) He's been that childish for years. I've killfiled it. Signaturehttp://www.petersparrots.com http://www.insanevideoclips.com http://www.petersphotos.com A man takes the day off work and decides to go out golfing. He is on the second hole when he notices a frog sitting next to the green. He thinks nothing of it and is about to shoot when he hears, "Ribbit, 9 Iron" The man looks around and doesn't see anyone. "Ribbit, 9 Iron." He looks at the frog and decides to prove the frog wrong, puts his other club away, and grabs a 9 iron. Boom! He hits it 10 inches from the cup. He is shocked. He says to the frog, "Wow that's amazing. You must be a lucky frog, eh?" The frog reply's "Ribbit, Lucky frog." The man decides to take the frog with him to the next hole. "What do you think frog?" the man asks. "Ribbit, 3 wood." 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"And that, your honour, is how the girl ended up in my room." : >> > Er what? : >> > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] : : He's been that childish for years. I've killfiled it. And I thought it was his parrot speaking ;-) > He's been that childish for years. I've killfiled it. wrong dickhead i've been around for months but I do know the person you are mistaking me for and I visit him every week. > > Er what? > > > typical response from a dickhead. Preston--it is someone using Virginnet from an IP that comes from Amsterdam. The poster uses Outlook Express. If it is a regular poster, his headers will match. From: "phdhead" <ph.dhead@onte.net> Newsgroups: alt.cats,alt.pets.parrots.african-grey,alt.pets.parrots.misc,rec.pets.cats.h ealth+behav References: <db7vh1$k57$1$830fa7a5@news.demon.co.uk> <Xns96943C8974163wisdomfolly@207.115.63.158> <op.stybnjkvmk2j66@blue.mshome.net> Subject: Re: 3 cats & a new parrot... 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Box 10096 City: Amsterdam StateProv: PostalCode: 1001EB Country: NL ReferralServer: whois://whois.ripe.net:43 NetRange: 82.0.0.0 - 82.255.255.255 CIDR: 82.0.0.0/8 NetName: 82-RIPE NetHandle: NET-82-0-0-0-1 Parent: NetType: Allocated to RIPE NCC NameServer: NS-PRI.RIPE.NET NameServer: NS3.NIC.FR NameServer: SEC1.APNIC.NET NameServer: SEC3.APNIC.NET NameServer: SUNIC.SUNET.SE NameServer: TINNIE.ARIN.NET Comment: These addresses have been further assigned to users in Comment: the RIPE NCC region. Contact information can be found in Comment: the RIPE database at http://www.ripe.net/whois RegDate: 2002-11-23 Updated: 2004-03-16 # ARIN WHOIS database, last updated 2005-07-15 19:10 # Enter ? for additional hints on searching ARIN's WHOIS database. >> Preston--it is someone using Virginnet from an IP that comes from >> Amsterdam. > The poster uses Outlook Express. If it is a regular poster, his headers > will > match. and your point is? >> What I might do, is buy a budgie or cockatiel which cost next to nothing, > and see how they react. If they welcome the wee thing with open arms, I > will buy it a much more expensive friend to sit and talk with :) Don't you think that's a bit callous? It seems you're saying it doesn't matter that the budgie is terrified of you cats or gets hurt because he cost you peanuts. You'll still have to buy a cage for it anyway and they're expensive. What will you do with the budgie or cockatiel when you buy your parrot? Alison > Don't you think that's a bit callous? Not at all, I think its very sensible in fact. I would not simply going to let the cats loose on the budgie, I would supervise the cats and very quickly be able to a.ses if the bird was in any danger. Through supervised visits, I would hope over time that the cats accept the budgie, however if not, then the parrot would be a no-no. I would NEVER allow the cat to harm any bird, I love all animals. > It seems you're saying it > doesn't matter that the budgie is terrified of you cats or gets hurt > because he cost you peanuts. At no trime did I say I would let the budgie get hurt. > You'll still have to buy a cage for it > anyway and they're expensive. Tell me about it, the thing cost me £300 :) > What will you do with the budgie or > cockatiel when you buy your parrot? I would have kept them, I love birds. J. >> Don't you think that's a bit callous? > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > not, then the parrot would be a no-no. I would NEVER allow the cat to harm > any bird, I love all animals. So would you then resell the budgie? >> It seems you're saying it >> doesn't matter that the budgie is terrified of you cats or gets hurt [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > J. Signaturehttp://www.petersparrots.com http://www.insanevideoclips.com http://www.petersphotos.com .-. | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | _.--"""""""--;_ // \\ || .-"""-. || || / ... \ || || | ::::: | || || \ ''' / || || '-...-' || |/.-----------.\| ||.-"""""""""-.|| |||___________||| ||[__][___][__]|| ||=== ===== ===|| |\ === === /| | `'""""""""""` | |[TALK] === === | |.---..---..---.| ||_1_||_2_||_3_|| |.---..---..---.| ||_4_||_5_||_6_|| |.---..---..---.| ||_7_||_8_||_9_|| |.---..---..---.| ||_*_||_0_||_#_|| |____ _____ ____| |==== ===== ====| |==== ___ ====| | .'` `'. | | / .:::. \ | \ ' ' / `--.........--' > Hello, > [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > PS - Its Tigger, Tootsie and Tango - www.cutecats.co.uk - they look > harmless :). Can you talk to someone at a bird rescue? I'm sure they know a lot more about how birds, esp different species, act around cats. Personally, I wouldn't risk it with my cats. If I had a bird, I would want to let it out of it's cage and I know my cats would chase it. In the case of a big bird like an African Grey, I would be afraid of the bird hurting the cats. -Kelly > > Hello, > > [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > of it's cage and I know my cats would chase it. In the case of a big bird > like an African Grey, I would be afraid of the bird hurting the cats. They are not that big! > They are not that big! I must be thinking of another kind of parrot. I admit, I don't really know my birds! -Kelly >> They are not that big! > > I must be thinking of another kind of parrot. I admit, I don't really know > my birds! Macaw? Signaturehttp://www.petersparrots.com http://www.insanevideoclips.com http://www.petersphotos.com A study in Scotland showed that the kind of male face a woman finds attractive can differ depending where a woman is in her menstrual cycle. For instance, if she is ovulating they are attracted to men with rugged, masculine features. If she is menstruating she is more prone to be attracted to a man with scissors shoved in his temple. >> I must be thinking of another kind of parrot. I admit, I don't really >> know >> my birds! stop thinking or your dickhead will explode > > They are not that big! > > I must be thinking of another kind of parrot. I admit, I don't really know > my birds! The big ones scare the pee out of me! Here is one photo that shows their size, relative to a person: http://www.setileague.org/photos/bioastro/bioa9907.jpg They are certainly not small, but I imagine a cat would do more harm to them than them to a cat. I love these birds, and would have one if I could. They are very smart and have lots of personality. They are also pretty expensive. >> > They are not that big! >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > http://www.setileague.org/photos/bioastro/bioa9907.jpg That's smaller than a cat. Try this one. http://80.229.155.158/parrots/Macaws/Mac%20eating%20yogurt.jpg Signaturehttp://www.petersparrots.com http://www.insanevideoclips.com http://www.petersphotos.com An archaeologist is the best husband a woman can have. The older she gets the more interested in her he is. > >> > They are not that big! > >> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > That's smaller than a cat. Sorry, I mixed too thoughts--or left out a segue. I meant, the big ones scare me, but AGs are not big, here is a photo. :) > Try this one. http://80.229.155.158/parrots/Macaws/Mac%20eating%20yogurt.jpg Oh yayuh! That's a big 'un. >> >> > They are not that big! >> >> [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Oh yayuh! That's a big 'un. That beak will pierce your finger if you don't behave. He is in control (or he was until I got a slightly larger female....) Signaturehttp://www.petersparrots.com http://www.insanevideoclips.com http://www.petersphotos.com _..------.,._ ,-; .------.'-._`-. __.'_/ /______/ ``-`. _.-;'`` --_ ; =, .-'``". `\/| .'--' .-"-.\| | | / .---. `-' | `-..__/ .-. \__'_-__-_____/ .-. \___/ \ '-' / \ '-' / '-.-' '-.-' >> The big ones scare the pee out of me! Here is one photo that shows >> their size, relative to a person: >> >> http://www.setileague.org/photos/bioastro/bioa9907.jpg its a picture of you dickhead > >> The big ones scare the pee out of me! Here is one photo that shows > >> their size, relative to a person: > >> > >> http://www.setileague.org/photos/bioastro/bioa9907.jpg > > > its a picture of you dickhead You have found me out. Brilliant. I'll know better than to try to get one past you again. >> > They are not that big! >> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > very smart and have lots of personality. They are also pretty > expensive. I have seen a pet parrot that's bigger. Parrot's come in different sizes and the big ones can get pretty large. >>> > They are not that big! >>> [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > I have seen a pet parrot that's bigger. Parrot's come in different sizes > and the big ones can get pretty large. They're less dangerous than you think. Once they get to know you they won't hurt you. Signaturehttp://www.petersparrots.com http://www.insanevideoclips.com http://www.petersphotos.com One frigid morning in North Dakota a man turned up at work much the worse for wear. "I didn't sleep a wink," he told a coworker. "I was up all night trying to keep my wife's begonia covered against the freezing cold." "I should be so lucky," his coworker replied. "When it's this cold my wife wears so damn many clothes to bed, I can never get anywhere near her begonia." > Hello, > [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > PS - Its Tigger, Tootsie and Tango - www.cutecats.co.uk - they look harmless > :). can't speak from experience; doubt they'd ever be friendly, but isn't one of those a *big* bird ? big enough to intimidate the cats I imagine. pat Under no circumstances should you acquire birds if you have ANY cats, much less three of them. Even the saliva of cats can be deadly to birds. > Hello, > [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > PS - Its Tigger, Tootsie and Tango - www.cutecats.co.uk - they look harmless > :). Signature---------- Email from unknown persons will be blocked by spam filters. Please post replies to the news conference. Thank you. Aren't you thinking of llamas? > Under no circumstances should you acquire birds if you have ANY cats, > much less three of them. Even the saliva of cats can be deadly to birds. [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] >> PS - Its Tigger, Tootsie and Tango - www.cutecats.co.uk - they look harmless >> :). Signaturehttp://www.petersparrots.com http://www.insanevideoclips.com http://www.petersphotos.com What's the German word for Vaseline? Vienerslide. > Aren't you thinking of llamas? Probably so, they are so much alike. :) > > Under no circumstances should you acquire birds if you have ANY cats, > > much less three of them. Even the saliva of cats can be deadly to birds. [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > >> PS - Its Tigger, Tootsie and Tango - www.cutecats.co.uk - they look harmless > >> :). If you want a bird, get a bird. Just make sure that the cage can be closed securely and a room where the cats can be kept out of when you and your bird want some time alone. We have three dogs and a cat and have had our CAG, Andy, for over two years. No problem. Like a small child, you don't leave it alone and unsupervised with ANY possible threat or danger. I say go for it. I would try to get one that's very young, that hasn't had the chance to pick up fears and phobias or had any bad experiences with other animals. When we ask Andy, "what does the kitty say" he answers with a long drawn out "meeoooooow". Other than that, they pretty much ignore each other. Good luck ... and don't scrimp on the cage and toys. > Hello, > [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > PS - Its Tigger, Tootsie and Tango - www.cutecats.co.uk - they look > harmless :). > If you want a bird, get a bird. Just make sure that the cage can be closed > securely and a room where the cats can be kept out of when you and your [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > long drawn out "meeoooooow". Other than that, they pretty much ignore each > other. Good luck ... and don't scrimp on the cage and toys. Cool, I am now the proud owner of 3 cats, and 2 african greys ;) The parrots are both a year old, 1 male, 1 female. Spend £300 on a MASSIVE cage, and they have lots of cool parrot toys. My cats are NEVER in my livingroom unsupervised, as they like to climb up my chimney - the parrots are now in my livingroom, so they will never ever be unsupervised with the cats in the room. I will do the first introductions in the morning!!! Wish me luck :) J. >> If you want a bird, get a bird. Just make sure that the cage can be closed >> securely and a room where the cats can be kept out of when you and your [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > I will do the first introductions in the morning!!! Wish me luck :) You'd better be ready, cat's are fast. I hope your cats are more controllable than this: How to wash a cat: 1. Thoroughly clean the toilet. 2. Add the required amount of shampoo to the toilet water, and have both lids lifted. 3. Obtain the cat and soothe him while you carry him towards the bathroom. 4. In one smooth movement, put the cat in the toilet and close both lids(you may need to stand on the lid so that he cannot escape). CAUTION:Do not get any part of your body too close to the edge, as his paws will be reaching out for any purchase they can find. 5. Flush the toilet three or four times. This provides a "power wash and rinse" which I have found to be quite effective. 6. Have someone open the door to the outside and ensure that there are no people between the toilet and the outside door. 7. Stand behind the toilet as far as you can, and quickly lift both lids. 8. The now-clean cat will rocket out of the toilet, and run outside where he will dry himself. Signaturehttp://www.petersparrots.com http://www.insanevideoclips.com http://www.petersphotos.com _.-"-._ _.-' `-._ _.-' `-,-"-._ |-._ _.-'" `-._ _.-"-._`-._ _.-' `-,-"-._ _.-' `-._`-._|-._ _.-'" `-._ _.-' `-._| `-._ _.-"-,-' `-._ "-._ _.-| _.-" "`-._ _.-" `-._ _.-'_.-"-,-' `-._ _.-' `-._ _.-'_.-' "`-._ _.-|_.-' |_.-' `-._ _.-' " "-._ _.-|_.-' `-._ _.-' " `-._ _.-' " > You'd better be ready, cat's are fast. All three cats been introduced to the birds, they were more interested in the patio doors :) All cats gave them a look for a minute, and then ignored them - I was amazed. I think the cats may actually feel a little intimidated. The parrots displayed NO reaction to the cats, but they are TERRIFIED of me, if my hands go anywhere near the cage, they sound very aggressive. Jim. > Hello, > [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > harmless > :). They will probably welcome the "wee things" with open arms, claws and mouth too "whoopee -- dinner". MLB i wouldn't do that, you could end up with a bird you don't want, but having to live with it for the next four or five years. buy the parrot, and see what happens, ask the dealer if you can return it if it starts getting stressed >Hello, > [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] >PS - Its Tigger, Tootsie and Tango - www.cutecats.co.uk - they look harmless >:). Hello, We have a 2 year old cat and a 16 year old African Grey. The bird is always in the cage and even though the cat tried to swipe at the bird when he was a kitten, they have a great relationship now..they basically ignore each other! The parrot does a great imitation of the cat too:-) Cin SignatureNewsguy All-in-One Accounts: Unlimited, HiSpeed Internet Access, 2 SpamHippo protected mailboxes, 50Mb website and 3Mb/month Newsguy Usenet downloads. Only $9.95/month or $79.95/year! |
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