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A Review of Cat Fancy Magazine

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Jason Canon - 30 Jun 2005 19:18 GMT
Greetings,

I posted a review of Cat Fancy Magazine to
http://magazines.canon.org/Cat-Fancy-Magazine.htm

Thanks,
Jason
Barrnabas Collins - 01 Jul 2005 05:24 GMT
>Greetings,
>
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>Thanks,
>Jason
I found Cat Fancy Magazine to be next to useless.

Get Catnip magazine instead.  (Published by Tufts Vet.
Med).  A much better investment.  

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sriddles@aol.com - 03 Jul 2005 06:20 GMT
> >Greetings,
> >
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> Get Catnip magazine instead.  (Published by Tufts Vet.
> Med).  A much better investment.

Cat Fancy *is* useless. Unless you read it for exactly what it is: a
story-book with nice feel-good cat stories and nice photographs. Cat
Fancy regularly prostitutes itself to its advertisers -- and notably
recommends the very products for which you'll find a giant
advertisement on the adjacent page. Their very worst faux pas was their
attempt at the "Fattest Cat Contest"--which drew massive criticism for
promoting obesity in cats. Their practice of accepting advertisements
for any breeder who's willing to ship a kitten sight-unseen to anybody
with $$$ to fork over disgusts me.
Catnip Magazine is good. Also Cornell University's "Newsletter" which
is chock-full of excellent health/behavior information, with no
advertising.
Sherry
~*Connie*~ - 03 Jul 2005 13:19 GMT
I understand the criticism of Cat Fancy, but I have been so glad to see they
are dealing with some health related topics.  I had a cat die of FIP about a
year ago, and at the time it was impossible to find accurate information on
it.    I was thrilled when they did an article on it.

granted, I liked the catnip one too, but more people get Cat Fancy and the
more information out there, the better.

>> >Greetings,
>> >
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> advertising.
> Sherry
sriddles@aol.com - 03 Jul 2005 13:39 GMT
> I understand the criticism of Cat Fancy, but I have been so glad to see they
> are dealing with some health related topics.  I had a cat die of FIP about a
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> granted, I liked the catnip one too, but more people get Cat Fancy and the
> more information out there, the better.

Cornells' "Catwatch" is produced by Cornell University, one of the
leading, most respected veterinary establishments in the country. There
is no advertising. For solid, accurate information, you might enjoy it.
Cat Fancy has some entertaining articles, particularly on behavior
issues. I just don't know how much trust I would put in their health
information though.
I remember reading a story about some marvelous, innovative new
discovery by zookeepers that dry cat food could be was an appropriate
diet for big cats. Iams was splashed all over it, with a huge ad on the
same page. I never took them seriously after that.

Sherry
Barrnabas Collins - 03 Jul 2005 16:08 GMT
> Their practice of accepting advertisements
>for any breeder who's willing to ship a kitten sight-unseen to anybody
>with $$$ to fork over disgusts me.
Ordinarily I might agree but what about someone who can't get to
a nearby location to get a cat in person?  

Some people are disabled, don't have a car, or can't drive five horus
to the nearest location to get a cat in person.  

Many years ago I had trouble getting a cat because even though
I live in a large east coast city I didn't have a car and didn't drive
at the time so I could not get a cat.   Mass. Transit does not
alllow pets on their vehicles, taxes also don't either.   So you tell
me, how do you get the cat then?  

>Catnip Magazine is good. Also Cornell University's "Newsletter" which
>is chock-full of excellent health/behavior information, with no
>advertising.
>Sherry
Most magazines have one thing in common: they get you to
spend $1.95-$5.95 to buy a publication where they throw a
lots of ads at you.   AND YOU ARE PAYING FOR THEM
TO ADVERTISE TO YOU.  They throw in a few token articles
but most of the times the articles are worthless or of questionable
integrity.  

That is one of the reasons I like Catnip, they have no ads.  

BTW, I would rather see cat owners ask their vet for
advice rather than get that advice from a Cat Fancy magazine.

Someone mentioned how many issues of Cat Fancy the sell.
Well if they sold Catnip or Cornell's publication at the cash
register at Petco/Petsmart/etc. they would be selling alot more
issues too.     Of course Tufts and Cornell don't adverstise for all
the products they have sold at Petco/Petrsmart.  

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sriddles@aol.com - 03 Jul 2005 16:39 GMT
> > Their practice of accepting advertisements
> >for any breeder who's willing to ship a kitten sight-unseen to anybody
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> alllow pets on their vehicles, taxes also don't either.   So you tell
> me, how do you get the cat then?

I was not speaking of nearby locations. I was referring particularly to
the ads that read "Will Ship Anywhere! US or Abroad! Besides, no-one is
going to ship a kitten straight to your door. If you can't pick it up
at the airport, and your community mass transit system doesn't allow
pets, how would you get it picked up from the airport anyway?
But my main point is, particularly in summer, the mortality rate of
pets on commercial airlines skyrockets. I would never ship one of my
kittens across the country. Nor would I adopt to someone on a
long-distance basis. IMO, responsible breeders claim to be in business
because of a love of the breed, and feel a tremendous responsibility to
homing their kittens. Someone who is willing to ship overseas, to
someone they never met in person, to me, sounds like someone who is out
to make a buck and doesn't care about the kitten.

Sherry

> >Catnip Magazine is good. Also Cornell University's "Newsletter" which
> >is chock-full of excellent health/behavior information, with no
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Barrnabas Collins - 03 Jul 2005 21:00 GMT
>I was not speaking of nearby locations. I was referring particularly to
>the ads that read "Will Ship Anywhere!
So basically what it boils down to is in your
opinion unless you have lots of money
to go out and buy a car don't even thinlk
about adopting a cat.  

Around here by the time you buy a car,
insure it, maintain it, pay excise taxes
on it, pay sales tax on it, buy gas,
park it, etc., you're talking mega bucks.

Yes you need a certain amount of money to
properly care for a cat, but around here you're
talking alot more to put a car on the road.
Even a junk box which i've owned many of
over the years.

BTW, I've lived in locations where the nearest
airport was a number of hours away.  Maybe there
would alot less homeless cats if some shelters
would figure out how to get those homeless cats
from the shelter to the eventual owner.  

Not everyone has a few thousand dollars available
to buy a car, insure it, maintain it, etc.

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MarAzul - 04 Jul 2005 02:54 GMT
>>I was not speaking of nearby locations. I was referring particularly to
>>the ads that read "Will Ship Anywhere!
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> Not everyone has a few thousand dollars available
> to buy a car, insure it, maintain it, etc.

Okay then, using your logic, how will you be getting the cat to a
veterinarian when there's an emergency? I know quite a few people that don't
have a car, but still managed to have pets. Apparently you don't have any
friends to help out and drive you somewhere.

Mar
sriddles@aol.com - 04 Jul 2005 05:50 GMT
> >I was not speaking of nearby locations. I was referring particularly to
> >the ads that read "Will Ship Anywhere!
> So basically what it boils down to is in your
> opinion unless you have lots of money
> to go out and buy a car don't even thinlk
> about adopting a cat.

That's a bullshit interpretation of what I wrote and you know it.
POINT AGAIN. NO ONE should ship a cat, sight unseen to anyone across
the country. The mortality rate is HUGE in the summertime for cats in
airplane cargo areas.

NO ONE HAS TO BUY A CAT THAT REQUIRES AIRLINE SHIPPING. If you can't
find a suitable cat within a few miles of your home, you're not looking
hard enough.

I don't give a damn how much money you have in the bank; however; if
you are completely without means of transportation, how are you going
to get the cat for necessary vetting?

Sherry
Barrnabas Collins - 04 Jul 2005 13:54 GMT
>That's a bullshit interpretation of what I wrote and you know it.
>POINT AGAIN. NO ONE should ship a cat, sight unseen to anyone across
>the country. The mortality rate is HUGE in the summertime for cats in
>airplane cargo areas.
Take that up iwth the airlines and the way they handle pets, not with
people who want to adopt a cat.  

BTW, there are airlines who don't put them in the cargo hold.

>NO ONE HAS TO BUY A CAT THAT REQUIRES AIRLINE SHIPPING. If you can't
>find a suitable cat within a few miles of your home, you're not looking
>hard enough.
You've never lived in a small town where the nearest city is several
hours away.  

>I don't give a damn how much money you have in the bank; however; if
>you are completely without means of transportation, how are you going
>to get the cat for necessary vetting?
So the bottom line is still if you're not rich enough to afford a car
don't even think about adopting a cat.    I've lived in various areas
where the nearest cat shelter was a 45 minute to four drive away.  

So for what you're saying  the bottom line if you're not a millionaire
who can't buy a car don't even think about adopting a cat.  

As far as vets, i've lived in areas that had no vets nearby.   The
nearest vet was four hours away by car.  

Also there are those who are disabled and can't get to a
local shelter even if there is one.  
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Hopitus - 04 Jul 2005 18:09 GMT
Not arguing here, but since there seems to be very little RL experience
w/cat transport by air...wanna relate how the Evil 3 got to MileHigh from
s.FL.....much internet surfing airline "pet cargo" links revealed that
almost *all* smaller airlines (the hoomin "bargain fare" kind) just shut
down after mid-May....it's called "pet embargo" and will not ship pets as
cargo again until fall (Sept. or Oct.: varies). This is because some of
their planes carry mostly cargo and not passengers, AWA the reverse...the
cargo carriers are never nonstop, and pick up/unload @ several airports on
way to final destination. It's all about the HEAT. I was told if
cargo-shipped cats plane stopped in any city where Ftemp was over 83o it was
a NO-GO (in other words, a no-no). SO....being in the heat area (Denver was
in the clear, as it (airline said) is never over 83o *at night*
here!....Atlanta & all TX cities were in the danger zone)....I turned to
Delta...we concocted a working plan - no aberration, safe for cats -
and this is what occurred: @ 2am May 24 (1 week b4 I flew one-way w/Rowdy in
cabin w/me) I dragged my butt out of bed, put the girls (Maluce & now RB
Sylvie)
in my carriers and we got on the 'niner (I-95) and headed south to
Ft.Ldl/Hlwd Int.Airport. In total dark, I finally found Delta *cargo*
office - far, far away from terminal; in a distant galaxy on airport
grounds - and hauled the girls up steep stairs to office....personnel there
very kind, pleasant, talked to girls, vet's papers taped to each carrier for
easy reading, $ changed hands, and I drove back home through tears &
half-asleep...@ 5:30am, girls' cargo plane took off for Atlanta, landing
there 9:30am, leaving 10:30am (temp still not over 83o @ that hour) heading
for Dallas/Ft.Worth...arriving there about
an hour later (don't remember time) - still not too hot -
and leaving for last leg of trip - DIA arrival @ 10:30am mountain time. My
allergic-to-cats son was waiting @ Denver Delta cargo office there to pick
up girls in their carriers (personnel quite pleasant) and drove them, as
they could not stay in his house for the week till I got there, to a
previously investigated vet boarding facility not far away which actually
had (girls didn't get) "victorian bedroom decor" boarding room....as
if!...where again FL vet's rabies, shots papers were inspected and retained.
This is very long but wanted to demonstrate cargo shipping w/a responsible
airline *is* possible (we did it)
for cross-country moves. One other thing: I was repeatedly warned by cargo
personnel NOT to plan on shipping girls by cargo *on the same day I was
flying here* as if anything went wrong or any emergency on any of their many
stops, we were dead in the water for anyone to deal w/it in FL and I would
be on a plane w/Rowdy headed for MileHigh during that time...thus why I
shipped girls a week ahead of myself/Rowdy.
Rowdy is obnoxious & half-blind & huge...that's why he traveled w/me in
cabin, in soft-sided carrier. When I first got my puter, I posted our
adventure of the dude who'd had 4 Heinikins in 20 minutes lofting to ceiling
then falling on Rowdy in seat next to me LOL.....hope this has given anyone
interested 411 on airline pet-cargo shipping cross-country.

>>That's a bullshit interpretation of what I wrote and you know it.
>>POINT AGAIN. NO ONE should ship a cat, sight unseen to anyone across
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sriddles@aol.com - 05 Jul 2005 07:10 GMT
> So for what you're saying  the bottom line if you're not a millionaire
> who can't buy a car don't even think about adopting a cat.
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> Also there are those who are disabled and can't get to a
> local shelter even if there is one.

You seem determined to turn anything I say into a moot point. I'll ask
you this *again*, just to snap back to reality, and the topic at hand:
OK, fine. You go ahead and order your cat from Cat Fancy ads.
(remember, this is the point you're arguing)
The breeder will ship it to you. Your cat will arrive at the airport.
Since you live in such an isolated area, I'll assume your little town
doesn't have an airport. Great. Now you have your cat. How are you
going to pick it up?
And why would I care whether you have a car or not? It's YOUR cat
starving to death at the airport with no ride home, not mine.
Barrnabas Collins - 05 Jul 2005 15:36 GMT
>You seem determined to turn anything I say into a moot point. I'll ask
>you this *again*, just to snap back to reality, and the topic at hand:
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>And why would I care whether you have a car or not? It's YOUR cat
>starving to death at the airport with no ride home, not mine.
Let me put it this way: you've 19 MILLION HOMELESS CATS MANY
OF WHOM WILL BE PUT TO SLEEP IF NOT ADOPTED.  

And you've got people willling to adopt them.   How come
shelters/breeders/etc. haven't figured out how to get the cats
from where they tlive to the people who want to adopt them?

I for one would think if a breeder/shelter had someone who
wanted to adopt they would be willing to get soemoen to
transport the cats all the way accross the state if it would get
them a home and keep them from being killed.   Why is that
such a hard concept to grasp?

Why would you care if I have a cat?  I keep hearing shelter
opeartors complaining about homeless cats being put
to sleep, well her is a way to give those cats a home and
avoid killing them.   Why is that such a hard concept to
grasp?

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sriddles@aol.com - 05 Jul 2005 16:35 GMT
> >You seem determined to turn anything I say into a moot point. I'll ask
> >you this *again*, just to snap back to reality, and the topic at hand:
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> avoid killing them.   Why is that such a hard concept to
> grasp?

Dude, this is my last post because you don't bother reading for
comprehension.

My original topic was the ethics of shipping an expensive, purebred cat
IN AN AIRPLANE, across the country, when it's a proven fact that
cross-country shipping is not only traumatic for the kitten, but
dangerous.

You keep convoluting the issue and trying to make it into "not having a
car". It ain't about you. It ain't about shelter cats, either.

If you've got any further thoughts on the issue (see paragraph 2)...go
for it. If not, ta ta.

Sherry
Barrnabas Collins - 05 Jul 2005 17:49 GMT
>> Their practice of accepting advertisements
>>for any breeder who's willing to ship a kitten sight-unseen to anybody
>>with $$$ to fork over disgusts me.
This was your original quote.  

Well not everyone has a car to travel five hours to the nearest
breader/shelter.    And not everyone has a car where they can
travel several hours to the neaest airport.    

Common sense would tell you if shelter/breader A has a cat who
needs a home, and person B has a deisire to adobt a  cat, then
work out some way to get the cat from shelter A to person. B.,

Not eveyone has thosuands of dollars to buy a car to pick up the
cat.    And not eveyone has $10,000 to charter a plane to go
to xxxxxx city and pick up the cat.   Some also can't afford to
spend $1,000+ to fly out to xxxxx city to pick up the cat.

So sometimes you have to bite the bullet and get a cat sight
unseen.  

Maybe the shelters should get together and make the situation
better.  

Until then financial/transportation limitations mean you can't
always pick up the cat yourself and see it before hand.

>Ordinarily I might agree but what about someone who can't get to
>a nearby location to get a cat in person?  
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