Cat Forum / General Topics / July 2005
Cats and Birds
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LjLj - 28 Jun 2005 13:30 GMT Hello everyone ..... we have the loveliest cat, about 18 months old, affectionate, funny, cute, and we all love her to bits. This is the first time we've ever had a cat (and boy don't they take charge of a home they move into?) and the only thing I'm finding difficult is what to do when my cat catches wild life in our garden.
Twice this week I've heard the most awful squealing coming from the kitchen and found it to be coming from the young thrush or starling my Belle has clutched in her mouth! So far I've managed to get her to drop the bird, and she hasn't killed anything yet - am I doing the right thing? what is the best way to get a cat to drop livestock locked in it's jaws?
Also found her chasing a frog around the lawn on Sunday morning - dunno where the hell THAT came from as we don't have a pond locally that I know of...managed to catch the frog before she did though, so that wasn't so bad!
Just would also like to say that I've been helped enormously following advice I've read here while lurking, so thank you all - and hello to all the posters who I see are in the USA and those that are like me in the UK
Lyn
astrog - 28 Jun 2005 14:41 GMT > Hello everyone ..... we have the loveliest cat, about 18 months old, > affectionate, funny, cute, and we all love her to bits. This is the [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Lyn Yes Lyn, welcome to the world of cute furry monsters ! i liked your comment about them 'taking over' you do realise that now the cat owns the house and you are its servant ! As for the catching birds bit, I'm afraid this comes with the territory, what she is doing is bringing home the kill for you, this is her contribution to the household food I'm afraid. If you can get her to drop it and rescue the bird then well and good, but do not scold the cat if you can avoid it, it is in it's nature to do this, and it feels it should be praised for doing what it considers is 'a good thing'. Not sure whether you should praise it for catching birds, the behaviour hardly needs reinforced anyway ! I'm sure other posters will have opinions on that. If it's any help I have two cats, they are both about 10 and this behaviour was far more prevalent in the early years, far too slow and full of Whiskas now :-) Hopefully once the nesting season is over there won't be as much 'prey' about !
Astrog
Sparky Polastri - 28 Jun 2005 15:45 GMT > Hello everyone ..... we have the loveliest cat, about 18 months old, > affectionate, funny, cute, and we all love her to bits. This is the first [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > Lyn Chances are, by the time the bird is in the mouth it is mortally wounded anyway. RIP birdie.
How about not letting your cat outside? Not only do they kill stuff, there is stuff out there that will kill them; antifreeze, neighbor's dog, the cranky neighbor with a pellet gun, cars, coyotes, fleas, other cats, racoons, etc.
Otherwise, think of the pest control the cat does as a service. Sooner or later it will discover rabbits are TASTY and keep them from eating your garden....
LjLj - 28 Jun 2005 15:57 GMT >>Hello everyone ..... we have the loveliest cat, about 18 months old, >>affectionate, funny, cute, and we all love her to bits. This is the first [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > later it will discover rabbits are TASTY and keep them from eating your > garden.... Hi Thanks for replies so far - appreciated! as for not letting the cat outside, apart from the fact that she loves it outdoors, we have children who are always in and out so it would be impossible to keep Belle indoors - we also love to have the doors and windows wide open in hot weather, so we just have to keep our fingers crossed that she doesn't cross any local dogs...I think she's pretty safe from coyotes and raccoons as we don't tend to get many of those here in Warwickshire UK!! She doesn't actually seem to like to go far, just our garden and the orchard next door seems to keep her happy.
Lyn
Shirley B. - 28 Jun 2005 17:19 GMT My Rexie is indoors; but advice from my vet to a friend with your dilemma, is to put a collar with a little bell on your little scamp. That way, the birds will have some warning and you're not having to extricate birds from the kitty's mouth.
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> Hello everyone ..... we have the loveliest cat, about 18 months old, > affectionate, funny, cute, and we all love her to bits. This is the first [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > Lyn Lisa J Gehl - 29 Jun 2005 15:37 GMT My 2 year old, Jane, has gotten to a couple birds. Unfortunately, if you have an outdoor cat, that is going to happen. It's hard to try to save birds once the cat has their eye on them, at least from my experience. For some reason, Jane hasn't been as interested in birds lately, she watches them. I think she is finding it more fun to catch lizards...blah. I don't mind lizards but when they are laying around surprising places in your house either dead or decapitated it's not fun.
Our kitten is getting very interested in birds but hasn't figured out how to catch them yet. I don't think he's run into lizards yet. He's great at catching flies that get in the house which makes my hubby VERY happy, he hates flies.
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Hello everyone ..... we have the loveliest cat, about 18 months old, affectionate, funny, cute, and we all love her to bits. This is the first time we've ever had a cat (and boy don't they take charge of a home they move into?) and the only thing I'm finding difficult is what to do when my cat catches wild life in our garden.
Twice this week I've heard the most awful squealing coming from the kitchen and found it to be coming from the young thrush or starling my Belle has clutched in her mouth! So far I've managed to get her to drop the bird, and she hasn't killed anything yet - am I doing the right thing? what is the best way to get a cat to drop livestock locked in it's jaws?
Also found her chasing a frog around the lawn on Sunday morning - dunno where the hell THAT came from as we don't have a pond locally that I know of...managed to catch the frog before she did though, so that wasn't so bad!
Just would also like to say that I've been helped enormously following advice I've read here while lurking, so thank you all - and hello to all the posters who I see are in the USA and those that are like me in the UK
Lyn
Gary Stone - 29 Jun 2005 16:19 GMT >Snip Twice this week I've heard the most awful squealing coming from the >kitchen and found it to be coming from the young thrush or starling my [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Lyn One of my cats caught a Humming Bird last week. That's quite a feat when you stop to think about it. Let them have their prey. Last year my two cats brought a total of 5 birds to the door. That's not going to put a significant dent in the bird population out here in the forest.
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M.C. Mullen - 29 Jun 2005 18:48 GMT : >Snip Twice this week I've heard the most awful squealing coming from the : >kitchen and found it to be coming from the young thrush or starling my [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] : brought a total of 5 birds to the door. That's not going to put a : significant dent in the bird population out here in the forest. Have you ever had feathers *all* over the place like in ornaments, on pictures, wall, ceiling, curtains? Personally I feel sorry for the birdies. With the mice it's a different matter though, but I wish the cats wouldn't play with them so long before they kill them. But then it wasn't me who arranged that...
Carola
Rosyposey - 03 Jul 2005 19:44 GMT > : >what is the best way to get a cat to drop livestock locked in it's > jaws? [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > : brought a total of 5 birds to the door. That's not going to put a > : significant dent in the bird population out here in the forest. Unfortunately, cats are making a serious dent in many dwindling bird populations
> Have you ever had feathers *all* over the place like in ornaments, on > pictures, wall, ceiling, curtains? [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Carola The best way to remove live prey, if you are in time, is to catch the cat and hold it firmly (on the ground NOT LIFTED) by the scruff of the neck. They have a 'kitten' reflex built in that they respond to when held this way (goes back to being carried this way by mum when they were very young - but with an adult cat their increased weight puts a strain on their hearts if they are lifted like this). That way they become effectively temporarily paralysed (only a little bit though) and it should be relatively easy to release the prey from its jaws. However, you will need assistance if the cat clamps its jaws shut beforehand (one of mine does this as it knows I am about to remove his 'prize'). I have managed to successfully save many, many birds, mice, voles, shrews, and specially frogs this way. My pond is teeming with many of the rescued survivors. Also, you must bear in mind that many of these animals perish even after they are rescued, usually as a result of a puncture wound infection developing, or sometimes just shock. Therefore if you are near a wildlife rescue centre and you can easily get your saved creature there, then that would be its best chance if done asap. The only downside to owning cats really (for me anyway). And as someone else pointed out, a bell on the collar certainly helps. Rosie
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