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Cat Forum / General Topics / June 2005Cat restraint bags
Has anyone ever tried using a cat restraint bag (or other apparatus) to restrain a cat? I recently took in a sweet, feral cat but he is almost impossible to medicate (I need to give him oral and ear medications). I have tried wrapping him in a towel, scruffing his neck, using two people to hold him down, you name it- I simply cannot get him to take his meds; he just flips out! I'm at my wits end so I would greatly appreciate feedback from anyone who has tried the bag, or another restraint, and let me know whether or not it really works. I read on a newsgroup that someone thought it was cruel to use this on a cat, but I don't think I have much choice here. Thanks very much in advance for all feedback! -Robert There is something called 'pill pockets' which I found works well for pills. Its a soft, goey treat with a hole inside so you can put the pill in, squeeze & the cat never knows its in there... ALso, for ear meds, if the cat allows you to rub his ears, maybe try putting on your fingers & then rubbing his ear???? > Has anyone ever tried using a cat restraint bag (or other > apparatus) to restrain a cat? I recently took in a sweet, [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > -Robert > There is something called 'pill pockets' which I found works well for > pills. Its a soft, goey treat with a hole inside so you can put the pill > in, squeeze & the cat never knows its in there... ALso, for ear meds, if > the cat allows you to rub his ears, maybe try putting on your fingers & then > rubbing his ear???? Been there, done that. It doesn't work. It's like one of my cats clues the other cats into the idea that there is a pill hidden in there. I've tried every trick in the book. Every one of my cats eventually figures it out. Of course the other cats help by clueing them in. As far as advice.....i'll let you know when I figure out a sure fire way to do it. On Mon 06 Jun 2005 07:53:16p, Robert wrote in rec.pets.cats.health+behav (news:Xns966DCA1996D76familyjewelz@ 207.69.189.191): > Has anyone ever tried using a cat restraint bag (or other > apparatus) to restrain a cat? I recently took in a sweet, [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > -Robert Good luck Robert. I have the same problem with a former feral and I fear the day when I may have to have to give her medication. A few months after I trapped her and she was still very feral, I had to give her ABs for a UTI. It was a nightmare chasing her around, blocking doors to rooms, blocking the back of the couch, etc. I would have to chase her into one of the bathrooms and shut the door in order to medicate her. I fear going through that again. I hope you get some advice and if you do, I'm archiving the answers for myself. Good luck!  SignatureCheryl "The clever cat eats cheese and breathes down rat holes with baited breath." - W.C. Fields > Has anyone ever tried using a cat restraint bag (or other > apparatus) to restrain a cat? Yep. I have one- but don't use it much. Sometimes getting the cat into the bag is more difficult than pilling! I recently took in a sweet, > feral cat but he is almost impossible to medicate (I need to > give him oral and ear medications). I have tried wrapping him [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > another restraint, and let me know whether or not it really > works. A restraint module or squeeze cage might be better than a cat bag. Both devices squeeze the cat against the side of the cage. Once the cat is immobilized, you can medicate the ears- but oral meds will still be rough. Some meds can be reformulated into transdermal gels, flavored suspensions, and injections. Working with ferals, I've found SQ injections better for the cat- and better for me. Speak to your vet about it. Good luck. Phil >> Has anyone ever tried using a cat restraint bag (or other >> apparatus) to restrain a cat? > >Yep. I have one- but don't use it much. Sometimes getting the cat into the >bag is more difficult than pilling! There's the answer I was looking for.:) I have one too that I've used for clipping nails and the second time around, no way. The fight to get them zipped in the bag is too stressful for everybody. Even if you get them in, they can still twist and struggle inside. Mine may be too big for the cat I've tried it on though. KV Vet has them for about $10. BarB >>> Has anyone ever tried using a cat restraint bag (or other >>> apparatus) to restrain a cat? [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > BarB Woven potato bags work equally well for less than half the money and .... you get all those potatoes too! ;^) Cat bags can be good tools for restraint, BUT, if they are used more than a handful of times most cats will figure out how to escape from them. Is there anyone that can help you restrain?? It's usually a lot easier with another pair of hands.. SignatureMar --------- Vet Tech In-Training > Has anyone ever tried using a cat restraint bag (or other > apparatus) to restrain a cat? I recently took in a sweet, [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > -Robert Hi, I got something off the Inet called, I think, a Cuddle Bag. You put them in there, then pull legs and head out thru appropriate holes and do whatever - stick meds in mouth or clip nails. Rexie spazed every time I tried to use it. Now when I clip his nails (that's what I bought it for), I just sit on the bed and kind of lean on him and work on one paw at a time. Works fairly well and I get one paw done at a time. (Except for last time - I posted the tale under 'Cat Tantrum'. I'm going to attempt again tomorrow . . . . . or Wednesday . . . . or Thursday . . . . oh well. SignatureShirley B. To Reply by email: remove 'nick' Pictures of His Majesty, Rex are at: http://community.webshots.com/album/255873683SwWQZJ AND OUR HOMEPAGE: http://jumi-shirley-butler.com > Cat bags can be good tools for restraint, BUT, if they are used more than > a handful of times most cats will figure out how to escape from them. Is [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] >> >> -Robert > Has anyone ever tried using a cat restraint bag (or other > apparatus) to restrain a cat? I recently took in a sweet, [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > choice here. > Thanks very much in advance for all feedback! Catch it taking a nap. For however long afterwards, you might find that it will be much more easily manipulated when gently waken from a nap. Good luck. > Has anyone ever tried using a cat restraint bag (or other > apparatus) to restrain a cat? I recently took in a sweet, [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > -Robert boy am I ever going to get flamed for this but have you tried putting his pills in some canned food? My experience is that while tame cats will eat around the pill and leave a completely licked pill perfectly centered in their dinner plate, a feral will eat the pill along with the canned food with out even realizing it. I know that doesn't help for ears, but my vet has suggested giving a couple of doses of Revolution 3 weeks apart for ear mites which would be easier than ear drops every day. Good luck. Your sweet feral is lucky to have you (although he'll never admit it). by the way, what's his name? you have named him haven't you? ron [Rec.pets.cats removed since my server doesn't get it.] > boy am I ever going to get flamed for this but have you tried putting his > pills in some canned food? Tried that. My cats fell for that trick for exactly one day. They never fell for that one again. They would eat the food and leave the pill untouched. My cats may have been born at night, but they weren't born last night. Ferals catch on pretty quick too. My experience is it also lasts about one day before they catch on too. It's like cats have built in radar that detects pills wherever they are. > [Rec.pets.cats removed since my server doesn't get it.] > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > It's like cats have built in radar that detects pills wherever they > are. Am I missing something? Why not crush the pill and mix it with the wet food gravy? > Am I missing something? Why not crush the pill and mix it with the wet > food gravy? You really didn't think that was going to work did you? I tried that, the cats still ate the food and left any trace of the pills. [Rec.pets.cats removed since my server doesn't get it.] > boy am I ever going to get flamed for this but have you tried putting his > pills in some canned food? Tried that. My cats fell for that trick for exactly one day. They never fell for that one again. They would eat the food and leave the pill untouched. My cats may have been born at night, but they weren't born last night. Ferals catch on pretty quick too. My experience is it also lasts about one day before they catch on too. It's like cats have built in radar that detects pills wherever they are. > [Rec.pets.cats removed since my server doesn't get it.] > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > It's like cats have built in radar that detects pills wherever they > are. Agreed. It is right up there with the Can Opener Receptor in the kitty brain. However, my most dedicated chow hound has fallen for it faithfully for a few weeks now, so I am hoping for the best. : > It's like cats have built in radar that detects pills wherever they : > are. : : Agreed. It is right up there with the Can Opener Receptor in the : kitty brain. However, my most dedicated chow hound has fallen : for it faithfully for a few weeks now, so I am hoping for the best. I had to worm Micky with a syringe last week (three days in a row - sigh). Result: Worming stuff all over the kitchen, a demented cat, a scar on my thigh - and Hurrah: a wormed Micky! Got some vitamins for Cinderella today because I feel she needs some: She takes them *happily*. Why on earth can't anybody invent nice tasting meds for cats? Carola > > Has anyone ever tried using a cat restraint bag (or other > > apparatus) to restrain a cat? I recently took in a sweet, [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > their dinner plate, a feral will eat the pill along with the canned food > with out even realizing it. Who would flame you for that? I tried it with my Buddha but it seems she could detect the taste of the pills because one was Tapazole and apparently very bitter. I got so tired of fighting her twice a day to take pills. Then I got tired of mashing the pill in the food and playing "food police" to make sure the other cat did not get it. For now the pill pockets are working-- but only in between meals when she is begging. > Has anyone ever tried using a cat restraint bag (or other > apparatus) to restrain a cat? I recently took in a sweet, [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > -Robert heheh, sry, I see "cat restraint bag" and think of puss setting off a car airbag. Only possibly helpful suggestion I could make is try liberal doses of bribes (kitty-treats), before, during, after. pat > heheh, sry, I see "cat restraint bag" and think of puss setting off a > car airbag. > > Only possibly helpful suggestion I could make is try liberal doses of > bribes (kitty-treats), before, during, after. Doesn't work. I swear every cat i've ever had is born with radar that detects a pill a mile away no matter where I hide it. I can count on zero fingers the number of cats i've had that fell for this little trick. >>heheh, sry, I see "cat restraint bag" and think of puss setting off a >>car airbag. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > I can count on zero fingers the number of cats i've had that fell > for this little trick. Few problems here; feed the cat a kitty treat, get into the required contortionist position with the cat, pop in the pill, feed the cat a kitty treat. Most of the work is not letting the cat suspect that you are going to do something to it (which they can sense). pat >> heheh, sry, I see "cat restraint bag" and think of puss setting off a >> car airbag. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > I can count on zero fingers the number of cats i've had that fell > for this little trick. For difficult cats, I've just pulverized the pill, added a couple drops of water, and then poured the slurry into a 3cc syringe (remove syringe tip). Pry open cat's mouth, insert to where back of the tongue touches the roof of the mouth ... inject quickly. Close cat's mouth for few seconds ... yer done. I tried the bag and had no luck. Cats can just about squirm their way out of anything. > Has anyone ever tried using a cat restraint bag (or other > apparatus) to restrain a cat? I recently took in a sweet, [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > -Robert Didn't read all threads but if he's really bad, try a big body towel w/cat wrapped snugly wound round and round him, w/someone else holding him w/just head sticking out, while you hold by back of head, pulling cat's head back some. You, the hoomins, are both standing up; don't try to hold cat *down* on anything. Cat-holder has got him under an arm like a football, using other hand to restrain paws through towel (big thick towel like Ralph Lauren makes). >I tried the bag and had no luck. Cats can just about squirm their way out >of anything. [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >> >> -Robert One other thing. Notice that vets "service" cats on a hard smooth surface. You can get more control of the cat when they have little or no traction. I like using the top of the dryer or washing machine. > Didn't read all threads but if he's really bad, try a big body towel w/cat > wrapped snugly wound round and round him, w/someone else holding him [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] >>> >>> -Robert True. Vets have s.steel treatment tables. Good point...claws can't dig in. > One other thing. Notice that vets "service" cats on a hard smooth surface. > You can get more control of the cat when they have little or no traction. [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] >>>> >>>> -Robert > Has anyone ever tried using a cat restraint bag (or other > apparatus) to restrain a cat? I recently took in a sweet, [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > cruel to use this on a cat, but I don't think I have much > choice here. For the oral medicine, try blending it with some beef flavor baby food. That works like a charm with my cat. Sorry, I have no experience with giving a cat ear medication so I do not have any ideas for that, but perhaps your vet can advise you. |
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