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Philip - 21 Apr 2005 03:42 GMT
Has anyone here owned a good Bengal or ... even a Bengal mix?  I've met some
Bengals at Jean Mills cattery in Covina (CA) and was taken by the handsome
markings and their highly active nature.  But I'd like to hear from those
who have lived with one (or more) about their personalities ... specifically
where box training and daily temperment are concerned as a house only cat.

Thanks.
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Orchid - 21 Apr 2005 17:30 GMT
>Has anyone here owned a good Bengal or ... even a Bengal mix?  I've met some
>Bengals at Jean Mills cattery in Covina (CA) and was taken by the handsome
>markings and their highly active nature.  But I'd like to hear from those
>who have lived with one (or more) about their personalities ... specifically
>where box training and daily temperment are concerned as a house only cat.

I own two Bengal show alters which I love dearly.  They are SBTs (F4
or greater) and they have impeccable litterbox manners and are loving,
confident cats.  However, I am also going to give you the top ten
reasons you don't want a Bengal.

1. Bengals are active cats.  Really active.  Like eleven on a 1-10
scale active.  There is no shelf they cannot get onto, no mantel
that's safe from kitty romping.  Knicknacks that aren't stuck down
with museum wax aren't going to survive.  16 week old Bengal kittens
can jump from the floor to the top of the fridge.

2.  Bengals are high-maintanance pets.  They need attention, and they
need company.  If you work outside the house, do yourself a favour and
get two Bengals or a Bengal and another high-energy cat.  Otherwise
you *must* expect to spend 3-4 hours playing with and interacting with
your cat.  That drops to 1-2 hours if there are two of them.  They
need interactive play -- if they don't get it they will do anything
and everything they can to get your attention.  Remember those
stuck-down knicknacks?  They're history if you don't give your Bengal
enough attention.

3. Bengals are smart.  Spooky smart.  They work together and teach
each other things.  My boys can open both the fridge and the freezer,
can open baby locks (Temujin pulls the door open, Kefka swats at the
latch), can open cabinets, open drawers, and have almost mastered the
round doorknob.  They must have sufficient mental stimulation or they
get bored.  Bored Bengals make up Bengal games.  Humans generally do
not like Bengal games, as Bengal games often involve swatting things
(like stuck down knicknacks) off high places.

4.  Bengals are not decorative.  Okay, they're decorative when they
are tired, but most of the time they are spotted and marbled blurs of
activity.  They will not lounge around prettily for admiration -- they
want to be doing what you are doing, helping with whatever you're
doing.

5.  Bengals are *big* cats.  Males are 15-20 pounds of muscle fully
grown, and females are 10-15.  Both sexes are very long bodied -- my
boys are ~22 inches from shoulders to tail base.  When they stand on
their hind legs, they can touch my waist easily.  A well-bred Bengal
is an incredible cat -- friendly, affectionate, confident.  A
poorly-bred Bengal is a nightmare because of their size and strength.

6.  Bengals are heavy scratchers.  You can forget about those wimpy
little 2' carpet-covered scratching posts at Petsmart -- posts for
Bengals need to be tall and heavy.  Cat trees are best  -- and
expensive.  If you don't provide enough places to scratch, your
furniture is history, and declawed Bengals are usually biters.

7.  Bengals are greedy.  I am a professional trainer, and my cats are
very well trained with ~20 behaviours including dog-style obedience,
stupid tricks, and agility.  I cannot train them to stay off counters
and cannot train them to leave food alone.  All the usual methods
(aluminum foil, upside-down carpet runners, citrus, cans full of
pennies, etc) simply do not work.  Bengals will be good until you
remove the offending object (carpet runner, etc) and will then hop
right up again.  They are too smart to think that the counter is doing
anything to them.

8.  Bengals like water.  Which, granted, is pretty cool -- having a
cat join you in the shower or hop into your hot bath to swim around is
neat.  But it also means that squirt guns are useless.  And guests are
often not amused.  :)

9.  Did I mention that they're active?  Because they really really
are.  I often compare them to Border Collies when trying to get across
how active they are.  They need the mental stimulation of a job of
some sort, which is why my boys are clicker-trained.

10.  They're expensive.  No, you can't cut corners by buying out of
the newspaper.  Well-bred, well-socialised Bengals generally start
around $400 for a pet-quality and can go all the way up to over $1000
for a show alter.
Orchid
See Orchid's Kitties! -- http://nik.ascendancy.net/bengalpage
Want a Purebred Cat?  Read This! -- http://nik.ascendancy.net/orchid
Philip - 21 Apr 2005 20:38 GMT
>> Has anyone here owned a good Bengal or ... even a Bengal mix?  I've
>> met some Bengals at Jean Mills cattery in Covina (CA) and was taken
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> See Orchid's Kitties! -- http://nik.ascendancy.net/bengalpage
> Want a Purebred Cat?  Read This! -- http://nik.ascendancy.net/orchid

Orchid:  Thank you very much for posting the "Top Ten .... "    I noted your
mention of this list in another cat forum before checking here.   Thanks.

From the sounds of it, this breed may well have too much activity in the
"swatting things off the counter" department. I have a single friend with an
Abby with this behavior and it's irritating from time to time. All
knickknacks have been replaced with plastic versions.  Also, you have
answered another question I have/had about what might happen when a Bengal
is left alone (no companion) for 24 hrs in the house.  The last Siamese pair
we owned cured us of curtains and overstuffed furniture. The affection for
standing water (filled bath tub) is interesting.  What about walking these
cats on a leash around the yard or down the sidewalk?   Considering the
temperment, is acquiring an adult cat from someone who has given up
ownership an unusually risky acquisition?
Orchid - 21 Apr 2005 21:07 GMT
>From the sounds of it, this breed may well have too much activity in the
>"swatting things off the counter" department.

    My boys don't make a habit of it (though they will do it when
they want attention).  Nevertheless, I strongly recommend Museum Wax
because of possible missteps while they run the Bengal 500 around the
house.  However, some knickknack and wineglass breakage can be
expected from simply having an active breed aorund the house -- if the
idea of that really bothers you then this is not the breed for you.

>I have a single friend with an
>Abby with this behavior and it's irritating from time to time. All
>knickknacks have been replaced with plastic versions.  

    Is it an attention-seeking behaviour or an entertainment
behaviour?

>Also, you have
>answered another question I have/had about what might happen when a Bengal
>is left alone (no companion) for 24 hrs in the house.  

    Yeah, really not a good idea.  The traits that you like in
Bengals is what makes them not good candidates for a solitary
existence during work hours.

>The last Siamese pair
>we owned cured us of curtains and overstuffed furniture.

    No curtains here, but we do have totally unharmed overstuffed
furniture.

>The affection for
>standing water (filled bath tub) is interesting.  

    They love water of all kinds.  Standing, running, dripping --
all water must be investigated and probably paddled in.  Drinkwell
fountains are ideal for this breed.

>What about walking these
>cats on a leash around the yard or down the sidewalk?  

    My boys are fully leash-trained, and they love it.  They are
also therapy cats, and they love going places -- Petsmart, the
hardware store, the park, hiking, anywhere cats are allowed.

>Considering the
>temperment, is acquiring an adult cat from someone who has given up
>ownership an unusually risky acquisition?

    No more than any other rescue cat, and often less.  Bengals
are bred for exceptional temperament -- it's one of the things that
attracted me to the breed.  Bengal Rescue is a great idea, as is a
retired show/breeding cat or two.

Orchid
See Orchid's Kitties! -- http://nik.ascendancy.net/bengalpage
Want a Purebred Cat?  Read This! -- http://nik.ascendancy.net/orchid
Philip - 21 Apr 2005 21:56 GMT
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>> I have a single friend with an
>> Abby with this behavior and it's irritating from time to time. All
>> knickknacks have been replaced with plastic versions.
>
> Is it an attention-seeking behaviour or an entertainment
> behaviour?

LOL  Both?  Neither?  Clumsy?

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>> What about walking these
>> cats on a leash around the yard or down the sidewalk?
>
> My boys are fully leash-trained, and they love it.  They are
> also therapy cats, and they love going places -- Petsmart, the
> hardware store, the park, hiking, anywhere cats are allowed.

THIS could be fun with the neighor's two cocker spaniels who *tend* to stay
in the front yard with their owner but are not leashed.  One's a cat chaser
though. Bengals good at shredding K9 noses?   Just kidding.

>> Considering the
>> temperment, is acquiring an adult cat from someone who has given up
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> attracted me to the breed.  Bengal Rescue is a great idea, as is a
> retired show/breeding cat or two.

Did you list a link to Bengal Rescue?

Thanks  :-)
Cat Lover - 31 May 2006 01:04 GMT
Phillip,
I just purchased a Bengal in March of this year.  My suggestion to you is do
not research Bengals off of Breeders websites, as they will not tell you the
whole truth.  I was unfortunate enough to buy one who had 2 parasites
(Giardia and Tritrichomomis).  However, treated properly with the correct
medications, they should go away-but the Giarida is notorious for returning.
Bengals have a history of having IBD (Inflammatory Bowel Disease) and loose
stools.  The loose stools should clear up around age 1 or so.  There is also
medication through your vet. that can be prescribed to help control it.   But
the temperment is dependent upon how far up the "ladder" they are in
generations.  If you buy one that is an F3-that is the 3rd generation;
therefore, will have a lot more wildness in them.  Mine is further down the
ladder and is considered an SBT.  He is still wild but he is also a kitten.
Bengals need attention, so if you are not home a lot, then consider
purchasing 2 so they will have a playmate.  In terms of litter box training-
most breeders will have them trained prior to you picking them up. If any
breeder lets you take a Bengal home prior to 8-12 wks, then stay clear.  They
need that time to have human contact.  Make sure you know what food and
litter the breeder uses.  If they use cheap food then that tells you
something else about the breeder.  Bengals have very sensitive stomachs.
Owners are advised to keep them indoors only, unless on a leash or carrier.
The reason is that Bengals have a tendency to wander until they finally
decide to come back home, if they haven't been stolen in the process.  They
also can jump very high (above 6-8 ft. with no problem).  Bengals love to
climb, play with the toilet paper roll, chew on things (at least mine does.
I suggest kitten proofing the house prior to getting one).  Keep the
food/water and litter in the same room for a while until the kitten get's
comfortable enough in the new surroundings.  I had his litter box in my
closet and his food/water in my bedroom so they were separated enough, but
not too far-for at least the first 2 wks.  Then I had a second box in the
place where I was going to keep it.  Once he got more familiar with the house,
I took away the one in the closet and left the other one.  Bengals are clean,
just like domestic cats.

Bengals temperment, pending on the generation is loving, independent, but
loves attention (playing), mine loves to bite but is still teething on and
off at 5 months, he sleeps with me at night, and he is very vocal when he has
something to say.  The second day I got him, he took a shower with me.
Bengals love water, but hate to be forced into it (mine anyway).  Bottled
water is the best for them and since they are considered carnivores, they
should stay away from grain/corn type food, but should be on a high
protein/low carb diet-such as Eukenuba, Innova, Wellness......  Hope that
helps.  Good Luck!!!

>Has anyone here owned a good Bengal or ... even a Bengal mix?  I've met some
>Bengals at Jean Mills cattery in Covina (CA) and was taken by the handsome
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>
>Thanks.
 
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